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niles (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #160 on: June 28, 2008, 05:05 AM »

Quote from: dayokanu on June 27, 2008, 05:12 PM


Oil companies would offer indegenes of Niger delta jobs but they do not want. They have community quotas in Oil company but Those deltans and Bayelsan and Ogoni people would prefer to sell the slots.

Check Eket a lot of indigenes have been employed by Mobil. but when they offer those Deltans and Bayelsans jobs the sell their slots I am close to those Oil coys in PH and Delta they prefer militancy.

I was in Bayelsa in Nembe local govt in 2006 when a road project was on. The indigenes started building shrines and moulding bricks on the path the road

was to take why? So that the contractors would settle them to remove their structures. Imagine. The contractors had to stop the work at a time.

I don't know if he continued later and the road was completed.


I'm in support,  These youths don't even want to go for skill aquisition programs organized by some of these oil companies, the rather prefer to go to the company and rally at the gates or lock the gates with their own keys. If they are well educated, tell me why the companies won't employ them if they indicate interest?
Gbosko
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #161 on: June 28, 2008, 09:01 AM »

Listen to yourself asking whether if having being trained in an Alqaeda camp makes him a bad person! Collect yourself together man, I wasn't confused about my criticism of the fellow. The one whose thinking ability is f__cked is obvious here!
otokx (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #162 on: June 28, 2008, 11:16 AM »

Odili did not do well does not mean Duke did best. Infact, Ibori fared better even the UN report said so and as for tanks being everywhere in PH. I did not see any in my vicinity which spans the east west road junction from uniport up till tank at rumukrushi and to rumokuta axis. But even if the tanks were there, what are they doing there? Is Bonga field where the militants attacked inside the Port Harcourt metropolis? Why don't dey move the men and material to the hot spots instead of deceiving themselves. What Obasanjo could not do is it Yar Adua that will do it? The Federal Government should make sure the money allocated to repairing federal structure in the region is put to proper use e.g. the dualisation of the EAST- WEST road and not expansion.
otokx (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #163 on: June 28, 2008, 11:24 AM »

By the way no oil company has offered me a job and i have many willing qualified niger deltas who i know have not been offered any job by any oil company so what are you peeps talking about? Lets be objective
Blu Malam (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #164 on: June 28, 2008, 01:55 PM »

A friend of mine serving in Yenagoa (NYSC) as a secondary school teacher, narrated to me bout how unruly her students

are. They are actually, literally begged to go, and stay in school. Now, how do you expect an oil company which is

seeking professionals, to employ such people in the near future (if it exists)?

Educate these poor youths and they will certainly make fruitful contributions to their communities.
Iyke-D (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #165 on: June 28, 2008, 03:05 PM »

Calabar?

I didn't know Calabar is the crown jewel of Nigeria today.

As per the Niger Delta governors who some of you now deemed as being the most corrupt in Nigeria,
please tell me whose government is scuttling their prosecutions? Is the Niger Delta people sheltering
Ibori, Odili, etc. or is it Yar Adua's own attorney general?

Like I said, the rest of you can settle for blaming the problems of the Niger Delta on its people while
the rest of Nigeria look the other way, but you guys will soon feel the pinch one way or the other if
the so called war is escalated. It appears Yar Adua's government lacks the will to tackle the problem.

delvinmaya (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #166 on: June 28, 2008, 04:57 PM »

guys,sincerely i feel for the niger deltans or what ever they are called but let us be realistic,ask your selves why the so called freedom fighters are not spending the money they gross from the kidnapping on their communities.its not fair then for you guys to drag issues which are totally unconnected with the issue at hand  into it.
Iyke-D (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #167 on: June 28, 2008, 06:16 PM »

Hmm?

The problem here is that everyone in the Niger Delta is being painted with one brush.  There are those
who were in for the real struggle, but government's indecisive action to address the injustices there have
yielded a wave of criminals and thugs.  Unfortunately too, the militants/criminals now realizes that crime
pay handsomely as their services are in high demand among the PDP chieftains and oil bunkerers. With
proceeds from these activities, they are able to further armed themselves from any where, even from the
Nigerian army itself, yet some people want us to believe that corrpuption is only a thing of the Niger Delta.

As per the laughable idea of the kidnappers using their ransom moneys to build schools, etc., like I said
that is very laughable. Visit some of the homes of Nigeria's wealthiest people and you will find crumbling
schools, hospitals, and non-existent roads about them, but somehow charity must begin at home with the
militants/criminals in the Niger Delta because of their 13%, right?
McKren (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #168 on: June 28, 2008, 07:00 PM »

Quote
As per the laughable idea of the kidnappers using their ransom moneys to build schools, etc., like I said
that is very laughable. Visit some of the homes of Nigeria's wealthiest people and you will find crumbling
schools, hospitals, and non-existent roads about them, but somehow charity must begin at home with the
militants/criminals in the Niger Delta because of their 13%, right?

Which means they are not fighting for anyone's  freedom rather than their pocket
darfur (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #169 on: June 28, 2008, 07:51 PM »

Quote from: McKren on June 28, 2008, 07:00 PM
Which means they are not fighting for anyone's  freedom rather than their pocket

this might as well be the biggest challenge in the niger-delta
lucabrasi (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #170 on: June 28, 2008, 08:49 PM »

na wa for nigerians, why can't we be objective and say it like it is
we know yar adua and his northern cabinet are messing up,yet we have made excuses for him right from when he won the worst election,bribed judges up till his failure in office and also on the niger delta.

some people on here are even resorting to kicking these poor people while they r down
so its no more the government's fault for not doing its duty of providing infrastructures for its citizens,especially as that magic black liquid coming from their land is what the whole 140million plus of us depends solely on,

some are running their mouths about youths being unruly,are the almanjiris in the north not unruly?how many of them are in school?how many of them are burning churches and killing ibos and what not?

so you expect a millitant who s also a fugitive to come out n supervise the building of roads with the money gotten from ransomes, where dyu think the money for the guns,rocket propelled launchers,dynamite e.t.c comes from?

a yoruba proverb loosely translates that" what kind of commeseration or words of comfort will you offer a  child wose mother was beaten/violated to death??

choba and odi comprised about 200,000 people and the army leveled it,the girls/women were raped and many killed,dyu realise that many of these millitans started out because of that?if thats not genocide i don't know what is

untop of all that some people will sit down calling themselves kaduna mafia with their money while they r suffering and their lands are being destroyed,i saw a news story about the niger state governore paying ibb 100 million yearly for the upkeep of his mansion upon all the billions he stole, i feel really strongly about this because not once i have met babangida's daughter in night clubs in central london and if u were a niger deltan,seeing the high life the less than 22 yr old lives trust me u will join up and be a millitant.

for people sayn the children are unruly,they are unruly because in their formative years,violence,distrust of government,no sense of belonging are the only things they v known so u expect thewm to turn chior boys/girls irrespective of the conflicts surrounding them?


millitants were created by politicians,sponsored and used by them, asari dokubo in spite of all his actions was jailed for a few years and now strutting about as the guest of no less than the nigerian government,more over if the south south people do not have a voice or the voice they had which was peaceful was silenced by the cruelest death possible then violence is the only way
Don1DeMaco
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #171 on: June 29, 2008, 09:12 AM »

Ha great to be back
Been reading this thread with great interest without knowing which side of the fence to sit on. so i decided to sit on the fence which for me for now is the most comfortable position.

Ha the Niger Delta story??? very interesting, it takes something drastic to happen before people take notice, the militants or criminals have passed a message across, Nigeria needs to take notice, the president needs to act, the people need to respond. 1 up to the militants or criminals

whats this struggle all about??? 15% derivation, 20%, 50%, 100% all the oil money?Huh do u really think that is the problem with the region, no money but direct development from the Federal Govt.HuhHuh what exactly is the problem or is it all of the above, they want everything, the whole Nigeria should worship them since oil is from their region?Huh? until we can all answer this question and identify the problem we should not even think about profering solutions.

who in his right mind can say this is the reason why the Niger Delta is the way it is and whose fault or what is the cause, ofcourse i would expect answers like the oil companies, FGN, Obj, YarDull, Abacha who knows??? Lack of infracstructures, oil pollution, oil spillage, etc

Now back to these criminals we call militants according to some people or should i say militants being called criminals depending on which side of the fence u sit on like i said im on the fence, not from Niger Delta but i've stayed there for a while and i understand some of the psychic though don't entirely agree with everything there, buy i think we as Nigerians need to be objective and start to reason like reasonable individuals and stop talking without thinking deeply, throw emotions out of the window and start being objective, i know that can be difficult because of limited info and the truth but with the little we see and experience we should be able to read between the lines and brace ourselfs for the challenges ahead.

For me i see this as the beginning of worse things to happen, more like a genocide looming or another civil war, call it whatever u like, but this is the birth of anarchy in our country and the earlier we resist both the Govt. and the militants instead of trading blames or taking sides the better for the people of this country.

Thats my take for now, will be awaiting peoples responses, views and opinions before we start examinig the situation we find ourselves 2day.

Please make your contibution as objective as possible
lucabrasi (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #172 on: June 29, 2008, 01:58 PM »

• Says They Should Be Dealt With
• Yar’Adua Not Favouring North
• Militants Kill Perm Sec

The northern Nigeria socio-cultural apex group, Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF), has warned militants of the Niger Delta area to desist from their activities and take to dialogue as a way out of their predicament. Speaking in an exclusive interview with LEADERSHIP Sunday, the chairman of the ACF, Gen. IBM Haruna, called on the federal government to "deal seriously with the situation". Calling the militants "miscreants," he urged government not to go into "any form of negotiation with them".

According to him, the leadership of the Niger Delta area has "given up its responsibilities. Even the NDDC has not lived up to its billing. Rather, the federal government is expected to do everything. What happened to the responsibilities placed on the local and state governments in those areas?"

On the planned Niger Delta summit, Haruna noted that there was no need to internationalise the issue "since it is a domestic matter".

The summit organised by the government will be headed by Professor

Ibrahim Gambari, a renowned negotiator on the international stage.

Haruna also considers it worrisome that the militants often talk about freedom. He said: "What disturbs me more than anything is the fact that these miscreants always talk about freedom. What do they want freedom from? Is it from the Nigerian state or whom? It seems to me that it is not just economic development they want."

On the charge that northerners are more in President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua's government, he said: " I believe that those who say this want to engage in a system of blackmail."

Meanwhile, in a communiqué signed by Anthony N.Z.Sani, ACF's national publicity secretary, and made available to LEADERSHIP Sunday in Kaduna, yesterday, after its maiden National Executive Council meeting, ACF averred: "ACF has noted the allegation of northernisation against the current regime by some sections of the country. NEC has also taken note of the painstaking efforts by the presidential spokesman to dispel the misconceptions in the spirit of keeping people informed of developments and progress. However, it is uneasy with the tendency to limit application of provisions for Federal Character to appointments only. This is not correct because both the letter and spirit of Federal Character are intended to make governance an act of balancing competing demands to find expression. For example, access to national resources includes appointments, employment, projects and major contracts".

The forum further stated that whenever it is reported that the North carts home gold medals in misery indices up the rear in human development index compared to the South, the apostles of fairness and justice feign ignorance, and that considering the past experience in the preceding government when the region simply could not partake in the privatisation exercise and bank consolidation, and was alienated in all major contracts, including those in the power and energy sector.

http://www.nigeriamasterweb.com/paperfrmes.html

and people are here wondering why the niger delta have millitants with a public statement from the main group catering to northern interests
Blu Malam (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #173 on: June 29, 2008, 09:23 PM »

Mr Lucabrasi, i understand and appreciate your position on this issue. If you've noticed, nobody has outrightly said "N-Deltans deserve their suffering. Believe me, if you interview the average Nigerian, he will no doubt appreciate the resources we are enjoying as a nation. THE PROBLEM IS, MILITANCY IS NOT THE WAY TO MAKE A POINT.

You seem to think the north is the sole beneficiary of n-delta oil; have you ever been to the north? not kaduna or abuja, but the REAL north, sokoto, kebbi e.t.c? There is gross underdevelopment everywhere, the gimmick that is used to pacify the people is daily cash stipends to whoever makes the queue in front of the governors house every evening. This is the money that is allocated for developmental and re-current expenditure but ends up being smartly diverted. This mentality is what amplifies the "almajiri" phenomenon - expecting cheez wit no work done.

My point is, we the priviledged one's, enlighten and educate the masses that what the leadership is doing is wrong and detrimental in the long run. Trust me, we are beginning to see results. Bad leaders are everywhere, but the people have to identify and reprimand such leaders. Imagine if all the "almajiris" pick up guns. You know how many them be?
dblock (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #174 on: June 30, 2008, 05:28 AM »

Well the good news is the Niger Delta Crisis is coming to an end.

And this will happen within the next two years.

The Militants are increasing their hostilities, and this will inevitably shutdown the Oil industry

so the Government will either, be forced to come to terms, or take military action


Either way we are nearing the end of this part of the crisis.

The only thing is, what will be the next part

development or some form of agitation.


The Crisis has been going on for decades but it has taken different shapes and forms.


dayokanu
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #175 on: June 30, 2008, 10:36 AM »

Everyone has a grouse to settle with someone.  Native Indians can complain to heaven about how Europeans killed them and took their land. In the United States.

In west Africa, We can complain to heavens about how Portuguese and Europeans took our fore fathers and the virile young men as slaves to the plantations of America.

The Japanese can as well sit down and blame America for Bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki without looking for a way forward.

From OMPADEC to NDDC we have always looked for a means to appease and make up for the Niger Deltans. At a time maybe a south Eastern man should be V.P they took a core N-Delta man Ijaw man as Vice president. In Jonathan Goodluck and he has a very big chance of becoming number 1 man in Nigeria in 7 years time.

They get 13% derivation, They have NDDC, Oil coys have skill acquisition programmes for them to learn skill. At Escravos I met one guy a plumber who told me he bought UBA shares worth 1.2million from the salaries they pay him at Chevron. He entered via community slot. He lives in GRA at Benin


In Nigeria Universities, we have community scholarships for oil producing areas students. I know of a friend from Ogoni who told me all you have to do to get a job as an Ogoni boy is for the Youth leader to take you to an oil company and use community slot.
youngies (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #176 on: June 30, 2008, 11:06 AM »

The sooner we depart from speculations and rumors the better.
bebure (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #177 on: June 30, 2008, 11:14 AM »

Quote from: delvinmaya on June 28, 2008, 04:57 PM
guys,sincerely i feel for the niger deltans or what ever they are called but let us be realistic,ask your selves why the so called freedom fighters are not spending the money they gross from the kidnapping on their communities.its not fair then for you guys to drag issues which are totally unconnected with the issue at hand into it.

You hit the nail on the head my friend. Those are my thoughts exactly. These idiots have gotten millions maybe even billions of naira from ransom money, they have kidnapped innocent children, killed innocent men and women and have yet to spend a dime on improving the lives of their people. While I agree that the Niger Delta (the rural areas) are heavily underdeveloped, these so called freedom fighters as far as I'm concerned are just criminals. They are simple minded gangsters and they need to be stopped by any means neccessary before this thing gets worse than it already is. Blowing up oil facilities only does more damage to their communities. By the way I'm from Rivers State and I don't know anyone who supports their actions.
 
lucabrasi (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #178 on: June 30, 2008, 11:36 AM »

@blu mallam
i completely agree with you,and i wasnt blaming the whole of the north thats precisely why i posted the article where the arewa people who are just a group of the priviledged corrupt leaders saying all that,we can see that they do not want an end to the confusion and don't think the niger delta deserves what they r asking for.

you r right its high time we have to speak out against these leaders,and to enlighten the illiterates on their rights which i believe will go a long way in making these people irrelevant
Quote from: dayokanu on June 30, 2008, 10:36 AM
Everyone has a grouse to settle with someone. Native Indians can complain to heaven about how Europeans killed them and took their land. In the United States.



yes but they were compensated,the few remaining are not complaining because they r worth billions of dollars,remember they just bough the cofee shop chain a couple of years ago for some billions
Quote from: dayokanu on June 30, 2008, 10:36 AM


In west Africa, We can complain to heavens about how Portuguese and Europeans took our fore fathers and the virile young men as slaves to the plantations of America.

The Japanese can as well sit down and blame America for Bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki without looking for a way forward.


yes we can complain about slavery if anyone is actually listening to us,abiola was making a huge case for reparations but somehow the whole thing died out after his death so people were actually complaining.
and as for the japanese maybe u v not seen their memorial and the activities they have to remember the hiroshima/nagasaki bombing,besides they were also adequately compensated and sorted out by the united states
Quote from: dayokanu on June 30, 2008, 10:36 AM

From OMPADEC to NDDC we have always looked for a means to appease and make up for the Niger Deltans. At a time maybe a south Eastern man should be V.P they took a core N-Delta man Ijaw man as Vice president. In Jonathan Goodluck and he has a very big chance of becoming number 1 man in Nigeria in 7 years time.





so u really think ompadec and nddc will adequately address the problems in the niger delta, first off nddc is an "intervention" agency not set up to actually sorty out the total south south problems,second it had been sabotaged times without number to fail,if not why would the same government be witholding the money due to them and then coming round to blame nddc for not doing enough as if the south south are not educated to discern, if you have been to the polluted areas and seen the suffering,you ll realise what they r going through.

yes the ijaw vp, well erm im sorry but he s a glorified social prefect(thats what nigerians call him)he has no real power and just there to rubberstamp orders passed down to him,and lets be honest he has a snowballs chance in hell of being the president unless he wants to go the way of mko abiola
Quote from: dayokanu on June 30, 2008, 10:36 AM


  



They get 13% derivation, They have NDDC, Oil coys have skill acquisition programmes for them to learn skill. At Escravos I met one guy a plumber who told me he bought UBA shares worth 1.2million from the salaries they pay him at Chevron. He entered via community slot. He lives in GRA at Benin


In Nigeria Universities, we have community scholarships for oil producing areas students. I know of a friend from Ogoni who told me all you have to do to get a job as an Ogoni boy is for the Youth leader to take you to an oil company and use community slot.
yes some of them are being sorted out,what about the oild men and women who are stark illiterates,
what about the men and women whose only skill  are fishing and farming, u want them to now start a new skill at like 50 years of age?
what about the people who s health have been affected by the gas flaring and the pollution,
the 13% derivation is a lot of money compared to what other states get but don't forget the topography is diffrent as well,so they ll spend twice or thrice more than other staes on roads and the rest, they have shouted this from the roof tops but people choose to ignore that,as for the corrupt governors and the rest,its the same government that are protecting them from prosecution,so what if you're not from ogoni?
what if you're from other parts of the south south?
what if you're suffering ill health on account of the pollution?
yes the oil companies are giving out a couple of slots big deal!!!wheres the compensation for EACH HOUSEHOLD THAT HAS BEEN POLLUTED
we both know if it was abroad,they will compensate each houseold so i think slots and all that is like side stepping their responsibilities
lucabrasi (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #179 on: June 30, 2008, 12:13 PM »

Bayelsa Dep. Gov. wants 50% derivation to end militancy
Emmanuel Ulayi, Abuja
A PEEP was at the weekend let into where the sentiments of Niger Delta leaders lie in the continued militancy of youths from the region: The Bayelsa State Deputy Governor Peremobowei Ebebi argued that peace could not be guaranteed in the absence of justice ,  conceived by the zone.

Ebebi, who is the deputy chief security officer of the state, where there has been an upsurge in militant activities, told reporters in Abuja that the oil-bearing communities must get 50 percent of proceeds from their areas.

The demand, he said, would pacify the people of the zone and encourage them to embrace the proposed national summit on the Niger Delta.

source;
http://www.nigeriamasterweb.com/paperfrmes.html
The deputy governor lamented what he called the oppression of the Niger Delta people by the three more power-wielding major tribes in the country – Hausa-Fulani, Yoruba and Igbo.

His words: "The matter of resource control is just about the oppression of the minority. The truth of the matter is that it is majority oppression of the minorities in this country. It is a gang-up of the Hausa-Fulani, the Yoruba and the Igbo, to oppress the minorities.

"But I believe there ought to be some people among them who should admit that we are all brothers and we love Nigeria , so it is only fair to return to the 50-50 per cent derivation formula. There is enough for everyone for now and these are non-renewable resources, so we need to plan for the future when these things are finished".

Besides, he said it was imperative for the Federal Government to release the accumulated funds due to the oil bearing states through the Niger Delta Development Commission (NDDC), which the Presidency declared as having lapsed and cannot be released.

Faulting the Presidency's action, he queried: "How can you say the money owed NDDC has expired?" adding: "It cannot expire, it is our money and should be released. We are serious about this." Ebebi appealed for more understanding and magnanimity from other Nigerians regarding the plight of the Niger Delta people.

He said: "Because of our terrain, I can say that we are not receiving enough money commensurate with our developmental needs and challenges. We need to control all our resources but if other Nigerians insist that we should not, then they should be magnanimous enough to say 'take at least 50 per cent'.

u-best
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #180 on: June 30, 2008, 02:53 PM »

I hope yar'adua is not sick because I am feeling that is not ok,this is not the matter of declaring war, because is not the one that is going to fight the war, this militant there are well equip both physical & spiritual ,confidence of themself,plus home advantage, yar'adua sending army will not make any meaning rather it will cost more havoc because those boys are ready to distroy anything distroyable. mr president should should just go for dialog because he will soon regreat all this delay.
manuch (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #181 on: June 30, 2008, 03:45 PM »

now the war has started
_bami (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #182 on: June 30, 2008, 05:12 PM »

another Odi in the making,  nothing good comes out of war,  u cannot find militants because they're everday people. they go to work like u & me,  the army's going to end up killing civilians,  afterall thats what militants are anyway. civillians with gunns.
debosky (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #183 on: June 30, 2008, 05:15 PM »

and what ''work" do they go about like you and me? Kidnapping?  Cheesy

Please excuse me from the 'you and me' - I do not kidnap people for a living  Grin
_bami (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #184 on: June 30, 2008, 05:19 PM »

i lived in this region 4 about 2 years,  ok.
a lot of these guys do everyday jobs,  the kidnapping is kind of like a past time but once they're done they return to d cities & live their normal lives. an average young man in this region has either gotten a gun at home or has access to one in times of need. get d pic Debo??
Kobojunkie
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #185 on: June 30, 2008, 05:28 PM »

Quote from: _bami on June 30, 2008, 05:19 PM
i lived in this region 4 about 2 years, ok.
a lot of these guys do everyday jobs, the kidnapping is kind of like a past time but once they're done they return to d cities & live their normal lives. an average young man in this region has either gotten a gun at home or has access to one in times of need. get d pic Debo??

Yar adua should make sure to flush these criminals out ooo. Na wa oo!! It's even worse than I imagined.
_bami (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #186 on: June 30, 2008, 05:39 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdjPYSQVos0. not trying to take sides but if u really think about it, d struggle can be justifiable considering d suffering in d region. its just unfortunate that a few of em freedom fighters are no better than the rougues in abuja themselves,  In anycase, yar Adua should be careful to learn from OBJs misdoing in Odi where innocent people were killed and raped in a bid to fish out militants, God bless Nigeria!!
lucabrasi (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #187 on: June 30, 2008, 05:55 PM »

you might not be taking sides,i am taking sides and i fully support the millitants to shut everything down between now and 2009 like they have vowed, if we r not going to have a revolution in nigeria to rout the oligarchs then that is good enough for me
_bami (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #188 on: June 30, 2008, 07:34 PM »

ziga
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #189 on: June 30, 2008, 11:50 PM »

When two sides are negotiating, it means both parties are willing to compromise something in order to make peace,  It is a process that takes time to be complete beacause a lot of times abrupt changes are impossibe (Rome wasn't built in one day)

These Niger Delta millitants obviously are not interested in the progress or development of Niger delta or Nigeria any more.

The Government hasnt taken any drastic measures against them at all and they seem to be getting stronger by the day. Soon, i believe they will declare a Niger Delta republic,

People should not try to tribalize this problem because (everybody feels the pain and suffering in the niger delta) somehow we are all interrelated by marriage or some other thing. Niger deltans also derive benefits from other parts of the country. I am not saying the suffering in the Niger delta is justifiable, but how can you expect a problem of a hundred years to be fixed in 1 year. Besides what kind of development will you expect with the daily violence and instability in that region right now. Investors living in fear that one day they will be kidnapped or even killed.

Nigerians as a whole suffer because of poor governance and greed of leaders. Everybody part of the country suffers from neglect by the government (some more than others, ) and anyone who will not allow for development peacefully should be removed by force.
madeonline
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #190 on: July 01, 2008, 08:02 AM »

More warships for Niger delta, more probes in Niger delta state govt treasury's, massive development of infrastructures by FG from excess crude account in line with Niger delta master plan (Niger delta master plan must have been implemented to 40% scale before any military action or JTF presence can be justified byFG. Only recently JTF APC fell into a ditch - I am sure the driver was only reckless even though that road is likely to be as deplorable as Lagos to Benin road) with equity contribution from state and local governments oil companies should be more transparent in recruiting in Niger delta (Shell just did mess with SITP - I bet tat process could have enlisted 100 more militants from aggrived applicants that were enied level playing field in the recruitment process) with specified quota for indigienes, militants to sheath their swords and surrender with guaranteed amnesty or get caught and tried or at worst bombed in the creeks.

The NAVY should block arms inflow through the high sea else Heads should roll. Massive Naval operations to cut off supplies is necessary, with teams of warship and patrol boats in inestimable numbers - even if it is for a short week and on loan or lease supply, with strategic amphibious attacks on previously identified black spots (what is the function of SAT 1 and NARSDA if they cannot spot human/arms movement's creeks and they are bidding for Telecoms license - someone needs to ask the Security Attache in NARSDA what his job specifications are and why he/she should be retained at tax payer's expense).

If Militants can hijack FPSO that is a bad signal for National Development. While, military options is not  a sustainable way forward it is needed at this material moment so as to allow the Militants re-assess their negotiating power before all and sundry agree to get back to the discussion round table. Blasting Bonga is quite unacceptable by any standard and the FG must stamp their feet with authority in a way that would stop militants from making further damages to the economy and the country's economic goodwill.


I learn some militants forcefully took skye bank recruitment test - I feel their pains and frustrations, I empathize with them but the only weapon that I know that fights better than Gun is the pen.

Should they be ready to fight by the pen - i would willingly volunteer within their service. When Guns clash, even the victors can't claim victory! Someone needs to tell them no war ever ended with a clear winner, not even desert storm.

Even, while they are unaware or pretend to be ignorant, several erudite scholars and intelligent professionals, including fire brand legal luminaries have genuine affiliations for the cause for which the militants are fighting without necessarily identifying with their attacks/strategies, hence the wide spread media awareness on anomalies in Niger delta and pressure on FG to make amends. Peace and reconciluation strategies by the FG, though slow paced is quite impressive; blasting more installations, would never sway arguments in their favour and I doubt if the have the fie power to confront the State if and when the state is ready to employ the fire for fire option!
blackchief (m)
Re: Yar’adua Declares War On Militants
« #191 on: July 01, 2008, 04:44 PM »

We have try peace, reconciliation meeting, master plan development, Niger delta development commission (NDDC)release of criminals (what the Americans would call a terrorist) etc but no result. it is time we try the military option after all we are paying the Army for fighting other people's fight, is time we use them for our who problems.
Mr president right step in the right direction.

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