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Kobojunkie
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"A Little More grateful" we tend to make out Nigeria as te worst country in the world. . . Forget Zimbabwe now, look at the war in darfur, look at the oppression in the whole china Tibet crises, look at problems in Burma. , people are dying, not even given a chance to decide their own destiny. Nigerians can still pack up and emigrate, y'all have done it and you come on the web to start spewing sh*t. Well u have the chance to, people in those countries don't, so maybe u should look around u and take stock, u've got a chance at a better life, they don't! Heck, u've got life, they are as good as dead if they arent already. Y'all a bunch of whiners and it just sickens me!!!  I don't believe anyone here is whining. I just do not appreciate being told to compare myself to those worse off so I can somehow feel better where I am. I don't subscribe to that mentality cause I believe that to be one of the reasons why we have remained where we are to date. We have so many in Africa comparing themselves to Darfur and Zimbabwe, as you yourself seem to be doing .At the end of the day; they lose all motivation to want to act to change things. Why? Cause they comfort themselves with the fact that they are not the worst. I was never raised that way, I am sorry. Why not compare yourself with the best out there and understand that what you have right now is still not acceptable, even if it is not the worst? Fact is, we already know, after doing the same for the last 30 years, that mentality does not work. Guess what?? People in Zimbabwe also feel they are not the worst and so on -- that seems the way things go in Africa. There is a time to whine and a time to act. If whining is the way to get us all to realize how dismal the situation really is, I am all for it but to continue to compare yourself with the worst when there are so many who are far better out there?? Forget it!
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nuzo (m)
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Nigerians, you have refused to wake up. Shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!
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subice (m)
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Martin Luther King once said: “We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.”
I'D like to substitute 'silence' here for 'lack of will'. Yes, we have serious problems in Nigeria but giving up on her is not the way to go, neither is arm-chair criticism. The generation of leaders we have had has failed us, but is that an excuse for our generation to fail those after us. I for one don't want my grandchild to ask me "So, what did you do to make things better" and I should not be able to provide a good answer.
The truth is that most Nigerians, and not just the government, are responsible for the state the country is in. From simple day to day things, to the bigger issues, most Nigerians are found wanting. For example, take the dirty cities and consequential health harzards. How many people living in say, Lagos, can say that in the past one month, they haven't thrown out any litter from their car windows or thrown a wrap of gum (or anything else) on the streets. And then those same people would blame the government for having a dirty city. Most people that do this are those who are meant to be more intelligent. Some people that condemn and criticize, earn a lot and splash money around, yet cannot deem it fit to buy a few large bins for the streets of their communities for a cleaner environment. People do not practice community and social responsibility though they have the capacity to do so. They prefer to scream 'government' at any problem.
We need to take responsibilty for the future of this country at our various levels. We call our leaders self-centred but many Nigerians only look out for themselves. We build more churches than schools and hospitals yet there is no evidence of commesurate dividends. I for one intend to play my part to make things better, no matter how little. I don't want my children and grandchildren to go through some things I've had to just because I am a Nigerian. However, it is not by mouth, it's by action and people need to be more active and talk less.
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~Pandora~ (f)
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Listen, I am not whing. I just do not appreciate the idea that when things are bad, compare yourself to those worse off so you can feel better where you are.
I don't subscribe to that mentality cause I believe that is the reason why we have remained where we are to date.
We have so many comparing themselves to darfur and Zimbabwe as you yourself have done and at the end of the day, they loose all motivation to want to act to change things. Why? Cause they comfort themselves with the fact that they are not the worst. I was never raised that way, I am sorry. Infact, I believe we should strive for the best not compare ourselves over and over with theworst. Fact is, we already know, after doing that for the last 30 years, at least, that that mentality does not work.
Guess what?? People in Zimbabwe also feel they are not the worst and so on -- that seems the way things go in Africa.
Well you can afford to can't u? from the comfort of a foreign nation. , if u really wanted to strive for the best as u claim, why not do it back in nigeria? The people within the country have no hope and have lost sight of what good (no matter how little) there is in the country. . . Life is too short to be completely wrapped up in negativity. . . all this rants do nothing but paint the situation in a completely hopless light and cause people to resign themselves to their fate. Without hope there can't be change, and how can we have hope when the likes of u have totally condemned the country. call me a hopless optimist but I am a strong beleiever in counting ur blessings, and nigerians need to do more of that
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~Pandora~ (f)
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We need to take responsibilty for the future of this country at our various levels. We call our leaders self-centred but many Nigerians only look out for themselves. We build more churches than schools and hospitals yet there is no evidence of commesurate dividends. I for one intend to play my part to make things better, no matter how little. I don't want my children and grandchildren to go through some things I've had to just because I am a Nigerian. However, it is not by mouth, it's by action and people need to be more active and talk less.
rather than obscure our visons with their rantings and prophecies of doom. . . frm the comfort of the nations they use as a yard stick if i might add did I hear someone say hypocrisy? 
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abdurrazaq (m)
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We have heard enough of this preaching from time to time. Let me tell you this, I have always been proud of only good things that is done by Nigerians outside Nigeria. What is wrong with Nigerians in the country, don't tell me that we are all bunch of illiterates, cowards and hopeless people. I think the only way to be hopeful in Nigeria is to be hopeless.
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Kobojunkie
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We have heard enough of this preaching from time to time. Let me tell you this, I have always been proud of only good things that is done by Nigerians outside Nigeria. What is wrong with Nigerians in the country, don't tell me that we are all bunch of illiterates, cowards and hopeless people. I think the only way to be hopeful in Nigeria is to be hopeless.
ROFLMAO!
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~Pandora~ (f)
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We have heard enough of this preaching from time to time. Let me tell you this, I have always been proud of only good things that is done by Nigerians outside Nigeria. What is wrong with Nigerians in the country, don't tell me that we are all bunch of illiterates, cowards and hopeless people. I think the only way to be hopeful in Nigeria is to be hopeless.
The question is are the Nigerinas abroad as proud of what Nigerians in the country have done? all i hear form most of them on tis site i show it sucks to be nigerian and how they would never go back. . . nobody called nigerians hopless, i said there is an increased feeling of hoplessness, like the country is doomed and wont get better. . . two differnt things, kapish? 
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abdurrazaq (m)
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@~Pandora~ Good luck madam, at least you are not in this trap called Nigeria.
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davidylan (m)
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all hope is not lost, we don't need wheel barrows to transport money to buy bread yet.
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abdurrazaq (m)
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all hope is not lost, we don't need wheel barrows to transport money to buy bread yet.
Keep hoping. Before it got to that level . . . . .
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davidylan (m)
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Umaru Dikko once said Nigerians were not poor because they werent eating from dustbins yet . . . have we gotten to that level anyone?
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~Pandora~ (f)
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Umaru Dikko once said Nigerians were not poor because they werent eating from dustbins yet . . . have we gotten to that level anyone?
Now u're just taking the piss arent u ? 
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abdurrazaq (m)
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Umaru Dikko once said Nigerians were not poor because they werent eating from dustbins yet . . . have we gotten to that level anyone?
I can't blame you. Congratulations because it seems you are not in this country at least for now
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Kobojunkie
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Umaru Dikko once said Nigerians were not poor because they werent eating from dustbins yet . . . have we gotten to that level anyone?
ROFLMAO!!!! No, we are still better than Zimbabwe and Darfur, so we should continue to relax cause, ALL IS WELL, LMAO!!! Even if it were the case that 75% of the country was eating from dustbins, we should console ourselves in the knowledge that 25% of the people are not. Nigeria, we hail thee!
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Blatant
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If you know what to do and you refuse to do it, you're probably as bad as those who are purposely destroying the Nation.
I know it can be frustrating but nothing good comes easily. We are suffering for decades of madness by those we chose to lead us
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noetic (m)
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y not let us fight for whats ours and stop shoutin on nairaland.
no nation got to where it was today by gaining or loosin hope.
guys, lets fight for it
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abdurrazaq (m)
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@noetic. How do we fight for this hope when you can't even peacefully vote for your candidates of choice during elections. Nigeria has lost it's future (the youths) to the greedy attitude of its rulers of the past. A larger percentage of the youth that are supposed to push for change have already been turned to confused people. Tell me where is the hope when armed robbery, stealing, lawlessness, are now courses on their own in Nigerian Universities (What are the motives behind all this cultism activities?)
Sorry, I refuse to deceive myself. I've decided to expect nothing from this country so that when something good (may be) comes it will just be a bonus. That does not mean I will add to its woes just that I,m not expecting anything positive from the Nation anymore
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noetic (m)
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@noetic. How do we fight for this hope when you can't even peacefully vote for your candidates of choice during elections. Nigeria has lost it's future (the youths) to the greedy attitude of its rulers of the past. A larger percentage of the youth that are supposed to push for change have already been turned to confused people. Tell me where is the hope when armed robbery, stealing, lawlessness, are now courses on their own in Nigerian Universities (What are the motives behind all this cultism activities?)
Sorry, I refuse to deceive myself. I've decided to expect nothing from this country so that when something good (may be) comes it will just be a bonus. That does not mean I will add to its woes just that I,m not expecting anything positive from the Nation anymore
i feel ur concern. bt if u don't fight back, the enemy might push u to d wall. ur civil liberties, freedoms and livlihood might be taken from u. if not from u directly, those from whom thse tins are stolen will resort to excessive crime and we will be victims. diplomacy has failed, dialougue n confrences have also failed, poitical ideologies have failed, neo-colonialist propositions have failed, ethnic political domineering has also failed, importation n imposition of western ideas have failed but what we havent tried is the people's power. historical antecedents point to the fact that puttin one's destiny in one's own hands will always yield one's own results. the anti-racist struggle headed by martin luther king comes to mind. sacrifices were made and results came. if we fight back the oppressors, we have all to gain or all to loose.
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Big B1 (m)
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I feel the energy!
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doyin13 (m)
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Big b1, I would like your opinion on the 'Abacha is a saint' chorus that was sang at his memorial by no less than your cult hero Babangida.
What say you?
Do you agree Abacha did not loot this country
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davidylan (m)
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Considering how much money Babangida stole himself, i'm not surprised he considers Abacha a saint.
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1luvkipsus
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After that Abacha Memorial Debacle, where I came close to being mentally secluded by the NHS, I have resolved not to bother about this country in any way, shape or form.
Even if the country were to be exterminated in a Nuclear Holocaust, my response would be 'Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish'/ Who made this statement?
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abdurrazaq (m)
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@1luvkipsus You copied from somewhere? 
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nuzo (m)
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Na doyin; the former Nigerian blind patriot.
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Kobojunkie
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FORMER blind patriot!! ROFLMAO!
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abdurrazaq (m)
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@nuzo, It's not an offence to be patriotic. It's just that she failed to realise that not everything goes normally in Nigeria. If she was blind in the past as you claim, thank GOD she finally regain her sight 
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Sky Blue
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This thread is interestingly amusing because we have people who have supposedly given up on Nigeria wasting there time to come on a Nigerian site to come and inform everyone else they have given up on Nigeria. Frustration at how just some effort on the path of the citizenry can transform Nigeria can be quite frustrating that is for sure. However why do we come on to nairaland political section, why do we read news about Nigeria, why do we get passionate in our discourse? Why do we get so passionate to the point of insulting others, etc? The thing is that it can be quite difficult caring for a country that does not seem to care for you, however when people think of going to Nigeria are you trying to say they forget things like family and friends, the culture and lifestyle (the good parts), the traditions taught and handed down to us, the richness in culture and tradition stemming from all these mixture of ethnic groups that has given us so rich a food culture? The friends that one can make in Nigeria that can't compare with any other friends in the world? The honesty and passion in our discourse that has led people to observe that when Nigerians speak it is as if they are quarelling? Thesame people can be arguing and debating so passionately and yet be laughing the next minute. There are things to cherish about Nigeria no matter how messed up and screwed up things get and hence i do believe that it is from this genuine concern and love for the country that people get frustrated that it is the way it is and even more frustrated when we actually understand that things could be so easily improved and we have allowed the country to get this way. It is very easy to get frustrated over things you care about however as i have stated on a lot of occassions we need to do more in the way of actions, if speaking solved everything Nigeria will be next to none but the case isn't so. Has anyone on this section of Nairaland actually using Nairaland as a platform ever championed anything? I mean that in the sense of getting people in this section of Nairaland involved whereby we act together to do something worthwile together. I won't be surprised that only from this section alone we would have a very wide skill and experience base, however is anyone actually bold enough? Instead of us doing something and using this as a forum for instigating change in some form we are ok with just commentating on the issues? Why don't we be so bold as to assume change is going to come from us? Hence we need to get involved in some way. Why don't we discuss on what we can do no matter how little because i am open to this and willing to do what i can in my own capacity do. However given that we are talking about Nigeria anyway i am nt expecting a flood gate of responses to that call, i am waiting to be pleasanty surprised  .
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Mustay (m)
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pandora.
u be funny girl o!
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abdurrazaq (m)
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@Sky Blue. We have heard this story of changing things ourselves several time. but my question still remains how are we going to make this change when almost everybody is loosing his 6th sense. The number of the pained and concerned is drastically reducing day in day out and you still want me to keep hoping. As I said earlier, my patriotism is not changing but, I have stop being optimistic about Nigeria that way, I can live the rest of my life happily. Laughing on issues like this does not mean the person laughing is not serious. It's just that life must go on.
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