Offline Downloading Or "fishing"

Hi all,

This thread is really a branch of the Free to air "Thread" on this forum.  Arguably we should get a forum dedicated to satellite activities to archive everything related to satellites.

Satellite fishing (grabing)! What is it?

To understand data grabing you must know how satellite communication works. To send data to satellites (can be any data) we use an Uplink Station which are located here on earth. The satellite in the Sky receives the data and then it retransmits it to the earth. This works perfectly for Video channels. But the uplink can contain any kind of data so why not use it for internet. But it works a bit differently than conventional internet where you send and receive data on the same line. In satellite internet you uplink data through your local internet (Dial-UP, ISDN,ADSL) and get the downstream from satellite. Why this complicated procedure why not use Uplink and Downlink from the satellite? It can be done but requires expensive equipment so every one can't afford such uplink hardware therefore we use the local uplink (normal dial-up) and then get the data (downloads) through satellite.

To get connected to the internet through satellites you will need the following:

a) Computer with a PC-DVB PCI card or USB box installed.
b) Dish pointed towards a satellite which contains data channels.

with these setup you will be required to pay a subscription for your access and you have the ability to BROWSE!

Now this same dvb Pc cards or boxes are use for satellite tv reception and so if you happen to have one for FTA purposes then with the correct software and provided your dish is pointed to a satellite with a data transponder  then you can literally benefit from the data transmissions (leech ) at no extra cost.

The data transmission includes all manner of files ranging from documents, movies, mp3's etc.

The programs that are used for the offline downloads can analyze the data to know their extension and hence associate a program to open them.There are quite a number of this programs out there with the authors being ruskies!

You can't BROWSE with this setup! But you can sure have some nice files and programs for free! You also don't have a say in what you get during offline downloading and it may be terminated by the one downloading too!

Equipment Detail

PC
The PC should be at least P3 or P4 with a lot of harddisk space since you can literally fill up 250gb in two days with good grabs or junk depending on how you have set up the fishing software.

The PC should have at least 512mb ram to prevent discontiniuity of your downloads which may come about from interuptions from other programs trying to access the PC memory at the same time - and discontinuities can render some files useless (eg. program or RAR files)

Dvb card
There are quite a number out there like technotrend, Huappage, Avermedia etc. I use a SDMC chip based card and I have put together some resources in respect of my card and hence I can easily give practical help to anyone with my type of card.

Software.
I use Progdvb to watch TV on PC with the card. Progdvb has a module that allows you to fish but you won't be satisfied with the result. There are stand alone programs like Manna, Skynet, Turbograbber, Skygrabber etc.

I have only been successful with Turbograbber as a stand alone program. It is good for beginners but it uses up too much CPU power. Manna is acclaimed to be good -but i haven't had any successes with it yet. Skynet is my program of choice. There is a module for Progdvb which i have been using - it uses less CPU and can easily be configured.


any queries and concerns? wait till i am online again!

@DVbguy!!!   That was an excellent write up, but don't fail to add that this is for testing purposes only as you do not subscribe or condone, encourage individuals from illegally intercepting satellite signals. That said, this should be a new area of testing for me. I will go to lyngsat and see what bird that meets the requirement for Satellite download testing here in North America.


@all,  We should all ask the Administrator of this site for a Satellite forum. There is no feature for PM on this board!!!! Does anyone know how to send a (PM) "Private message" on the Website?

@F_Marshal
Thanks

@all
This thread is for educational purposes ONLY! ( ) any activity outside of the law is ILLEGAL and I don't CONDONE such activity! USE the INFORMATION at YOUR OWN RISK

DVBguy, please forgive my ignorance! Where is GH?

Oh! ok!! Thanks.

Hi at dvbguy,
this's an interestn topic,dough av embarked on same research but i dropped it due 2 academics matters. skylogic on w3a provides such service u mentioned seems i hav 2 learn more frm u i think 4653x is dvb-s. will post more cop am posting frm my phone.

Lyngsat has the symbol rate as stated below with a "V" not H.

FREQ=12520 V  SR=27500-1/2
 
See Lyngsat http://www.lyngsat.com/ew3a.html

  Hey, this seems like an interesting hubby to pick.

dvbguy, please what are the typical download speeds you get (say for example how long does it take you to grab a 700mb Movie?)

This is intreasting To me it is a new development in the world of FTA, I hope the net (DVB-card) or the hook(DVB-USB) is available in Nigeria; with this we can go fishing.

@ Enitan
Bros what happened to your Glo line?

@F_Marshal
yes. it does everything a normal analog tv card or box does - the main diff. is that it works with satellite signals (dvb-S) and it also doubles up as data receiver. so u can actually use it as a PVR on your PC to record programs.

@dcb guy
Thanks very much for the mail. I found out some info which can help some of us with little or no knowledge about this fishing.

Digital Satellite TV Card is a professional digital satellite TV card which allows you to watch high quality digital TV simply on your PC.A great deal of practical functions such as instant recording,time-shifting,EPG,teletext?are easy to use by an amiable interface. In addition, brings ?Internet via satellite?into your PC, and you can surf on web at high download speed!

Features of a DVB S card includes:

High quality digital satellite TV & radio receiving (DVB-S)
High speed Internet via satellite -- You need to apply an Internet ISP account first
DVB data service
Instant recording -- Record digitally as MPEG II format. 1 hour digital TV program is about 1.7G
Schedule recording -- You can set your own recording list and playback whenever you like
Time-shifting -- You can pause live TV shows and never miss any marvelous moment!
Electronic program guide (EPG) -- EPG tables offer the most updated channel information
Teletext -- Teletext page is only available in certain areas
Still frame capture
Multi channel preview matrix
Support DiSEqC1.2 & USALS
Transponder & satellite auto scan
Viewing & schedule recording different channels simultaneously
16:9 wide screen
Multi-language output
Hot Keys
Favorite list
Video quality adjustment
MPEG II software decoding
Software upgradeable
Support remote control

System Requirements:

Windows 2000/XP
600MHz CPU or above
128M RAM or above
VGA Card with at least 8MB Memory
Sound Card
Microsoft Direct X 8.1 or above
Digital Satellite Dish & LNB

Included in Package of any DVB-S card bought:
Satellite Card
Remote control (Baterries included)
USB Remote Receiver
Quick installation guide
Installing CD

@BUTONEDAY

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@BUTONEDAY
i have added your yahoo add to my msn so u can chat with me via yahoo messenger. thx

 

 For us in Nigeria , the first thing is getting this dvb-s card or usb box here in Nigeria ,  Let us all hit the markets and see what we can dig up. Have done some search on the internet , and i come across a few that will cost less than 50USD , now we talk about the shipping , which might be way expensive , because it most be special postal service if u don't want to loose  it , to NIPOST

 Have check local computer shops in Ibadan , hope to visit Lagos Computer village soon , or maybe the Lagos guys can hit  the ,market and keep us informed,

  @dvbguy

 Maybe you can check if u can get hold of this dvb-s card and USB for us, lets know the price and maybe we can work something out , oops , i think you said u ordered it , so give us the link where to order it from if not in our local market,

 justx24

@ F Marshal

You can contact the administrator of this site at

seun@nairaland.com

 
 @DVBGUY

  Want to ask you if i can use the dreambox Dm500 receiver for this fishing purpose too

  http://dreambox-seller.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26

  seem a very useful tool , widely use for card sharing stuff too , what do u say about its use for fishing , 'because if it work i think i can go for it , about 200USD + shipping DHL, quite cheap i think ?

 You can even see some model come with hard disk in them too , something like a laptop hard disk built into the dreambox. The Dm500 has no hard disk but some higher model those, very interesting .

 waiting for your response on this ,

justx24