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tsharp (m)
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Why are born again people so wicked? One acclaimed holy guy I know who had been jobless and suffering for many years recently struck gold and started a business that fetches him millions. He employed and pays his staff between 12 and 20 thousand naira depending on their level of experience.
Some of them live in Egbeda, Agbado and sango ota and the office is on Lagos Island. He deducts 500 naira from this money for every day his staff are late and sometimes his staff leave with very little money at the end of the month because they have to be at the office before 7.30am.
I know another whose mother was sick and needed N10,000 for treatment and he will not give her yet he never fails to pay tithe. I also have neighbors who pray every night but despise other neighbors, shy away from contributions and owe rent even when they are buying cars. From my experiene, the holier they are, the meaner!
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manmustwac (m)
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Well my own personal opinion is that wickedess is to do with mind and has nothing to do with whether a person is born again. There are good people who are non believers and there are bad people who are believers (and vice versa)
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vassilli (m)
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i think dey only principled and not wicked
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tsharp (m)
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@ Vassilli
PRINCIPLED!
Nice try.
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donmayor (m)
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Every true born again christian must bear good fruit. Any person that calls himself a born again christian who bears bad fruit was never saved; thats how I see it. I do meet some of these so called born agains and it makes me want to stop attending church.
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ziga
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@ Poster. The title of your post is contradictory, You can't be born again and still be wicked. But i understand what you mean. Some people claim to be what they are not but only God truly sees the heart. Sometimes, the most "religious" people in churches do not even believe in Jesus.
May God save us all.
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wiod657
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donmayor (m) Lagos Posts: 436
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Re: Why Are Born Again People So Wicked? « #4 on: June 30, 2008, 03:52 PM »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Every true born again christian must bear good fruit. Any person that calls himself a born again christian who bears bad fruit was never saved; thats how I see it. I do meet some of these so called born agains and it makes me want to stop attending church.
hypocrisy abounds in the church no doubt but if a hypocrite is standing between you and God then it means the hypocrite is closer to God than you are
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donmayor (m)
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donmayor (m) Lagos Posts: 436
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Re: Why Are Born Again People So Wicked? « #4 on: June 30, 2008, 03:52 PM »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Every true born again christian must bear good fruit. Any person that calls himself a born again christian who bears bad fruit was never saved; thats how I see it. I do meet some of these so called born agains and it makes me want to stop attending church.
hypocrisy abounds in the church no doubt but if a hypocrite is standing between you and God then it means the hypocrite is closer to God than you are
I do not know the definition of closeness to God.
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skyope (m)
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when you are born again, you are of a new spirit which is in the likeness of God. Such person bares the fruits of this new spirit and wickedness is not one of the fruits. So such people are not born again but only acting holy.
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naijacutee (f)
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There were bad eggs even among the disciples of Jesus. I think it is wrong for you to classify all born-again people as "wicked" based on this one man, just as it would be wrong to classify all christians as suicidal because of Judas Iscariot. This man obviously doesn't understand what it means to be born-again - and is apparently living for himself and not for God. It is not in my place to judge, as I know do not know the surrounding circumstances but any true individual who claims to be born-again should walk in love, as commanded by Jesus Christ. This is demonstrated by loving others and some of the acts you mentioned don't sound like acts of love.
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Baxilexi
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naijacutee iam feeling you down t in bones, preach sistah the person who started this thread is probably a bench warming christain. that goes to church because its a sunday. the bible states that in a great house there are many treasures, some made of gold and some of silver and some of wood. some are to honour and some to dishonour. the guy in question simply doesnt have full understanding of the word. for it is said 'that not all those who call me lord lord shall enter the kingdom of God'. you shouldnt classify all born agains as wicked, if your a muslim you can be forgiven but if your a christain you can't be serious that you haven't met any good born again. a final scripture from the bible love your neighbour as your self tells you that the bible is not in support of this brethens actions.
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nuttyKachi (m)
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wicked and stingy
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madamkoko
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Do NOT forget that people ARE HUMANS first, and humans have certain disgusting characters.
Born again is only a term that attempts to cover up these human like characteristics like (selfishness, greed, lying, stealing)
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