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syren (f)
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Abortion is not murder, it's not ruthless, and those who carry out abortions are not callous.
And yes God will forgive you. Infact is it even a sin?? where in the bible did it specify the word "ABORTION is a sin"??
It is a sin, and it says so in the bible. and i would like to think unneccesary includes just genetic diseases, right?
it could be necessary or justified I should say due to rap/incest, if the mother's or the baby's health is at risk, |
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ima1 (f)
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thou shalt not abort a baby - if u don't want it shut your legs.
In the event of rape - abortion is permissible.
in the case of men, lock up your dicks |
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TOH (f)
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It is a sin, and it says so in the bible.
it could be necessary or justified I should say due to rap/incest, if the mother's or the baby's health is at risk,
Are you aware you just contradicted yourself? Where in the Bible does it say this so called murder known as abortion is a sin EXCEPT for rape, genetic dieases, threat to mother's life. So it's ok for you to assume abortion is a sin according to God but it's ok for humans to add "exceptions" of when it's "justifiable" I ask again, is this a JOKE? |
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noetic (m)
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And plz when did I mention that? If she knew what she was doing while sleeping with the guy, if she wanted the sex, that's another problem. She's not a victim, she knew what she was doing so why should her abortion be looked at as forgivable abortion?
good. now i get ya opinion. you have to read what i agreed to in the first place. she made sense because as much as we condemn it, its something that happens in different circumstances.
and is there any acceptable circumstance apart from a genetic disease? |
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noetic (m)
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thou shalt not abort a baby - if u don't want it shut your legs.
In the event of rape - abortion is permissible.
can't she seek for medication to prevent pregnancy? @ TOH and Ima1 please give ur opinion on the Love and Crime thread. It will help in debatin with u guys here. Are you aware you just contradicted yourself?
Where in the Bible does it say this so called murder known as abortion is a sin EXCEPT for rape, genetic dieases, threat to mother's life.
So it's ok for you to assume abortion is a sin according to God but it's ok for humans to add "exceptions" of when it's "justifiable"
I ask again, is this a JOKE?
seconded. even in the scriptures, when Jacob commited incest. the daughter in law still gave birth to d baby. the scriptures does not condone abortion. |
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ima1 (f)
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Are you aware you just contradicted yourself?
Where in the Bible does it say this so called murder known as abortion is a sin EXCEPT for rape, genetic dieases, threat to mother's life.
So it's ok for you to assume abortion is a sin according to God but it's ok for humans to add "exceptions" of when it's "justifiable"
I ask again, is this a JOKE?
killing someone to save your life (self defense) is a justifiable murder, so its not just in abortion cases that we have some justifiable sitiations |
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davidylan (m)
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can't she seek for medication to prevent pregnancy?
some women are clueless. |
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syren (f)
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Are you aware you just contradicted yourself?
Where in the Bible does it say this so called murder known as abortion is a sin EXCEPT for rape, genetic dieases, threat to mother's life.
So it's ok for you to assume abortion is a sin according to God but it's ok for humans to add "exceptions" of when it's "justifiable"
I ask again, is this a JOKE?
The bible is a reference I was referring to if people live by it then they know GOD is against it, it's a fact. My opinion was that it can be a reasonable solution to desperate situations. They aren't the same thing.  People kno murder is a sin but if their not religious they'll do it so it depends on your individual morals and beliefs. And no this is not a "Joke" |
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ima1 (f)
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some women are clueless.
don't blame it on women, you men put on 2 condoms if you want to do it so such sitiations that warrant abortions would not occur. don't put the blame on women |
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419er (m)
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Mr. Noetic your reducing the amount of respect I do have for you by making such an irrelevant thread here.
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noetic (m)
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Mr. Noetic your reducing the amount of respect I do have for you by making such an irrelevant thread here.
i posted it in the romance section, as a result of a debate in another thread. I don't know who transfered it to the politics section 419er, no vex. |
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419er (m)
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i posted it in the romance section, as a result of a debate in another thread.
I don't know who transfered it to the politics section
419er, no vex.
How intelligent could this thread be if not putting your level of reasoning to march that of my great grand fathers. You base in London if I'm correct. |
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noetic (m)
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How intelligent could this thread be if not putting your level of reasoning to march that of my great grand fathers.
You base in London if I'm correct.
I didnt get that. hope say u no yab meand Yes i m based in london |
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TOH (f)
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The bible is a reference I was referring to if people live by it then they know GOD is against it, it's a fact. My opinion was that it can be a reasonable solution to desperate situations. They aren't the same thing. People kno murder is a sin but if their not religious they'll do it so it depends on your individual morals and beliefs. And no this is not a "Joke" Still not making any sense Please quote me the bible passage that says "Abortion is a sin unless it's by rape, genetic dieases, etc" because you people are just making up nonsense now Personally I'm pro-choice so unlike YOU guys I don't go around saying "According To God, abortion is Murder EXCEPT FOR blah blah". Abegi. If you're going to believe that abortion is murder, you better just accept that no matter the circumstances it's still a sin and stop fooling yourselves. |
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419er (m)
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I didnt get that. hope say u no yab me
and Yes i m based in london
No, there is no room for insult, But Abortion in the case is not a crime and should not be in no form consider as a criminal act. Sometimes we may be force by circumstance to live a certain life which may be cruel. |
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TOH (f)
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In the event of rape - abortion is permissible.
says who? Where is that written? Noetic, this was my response to that Love & Crime thread being compared here which you conveniently ignored What difference does it make if the spouse forgives a murderer husband or wife? The fact remains that person has to answr to the person/FAMILY of the person that he killed. Ever heard of sins of the parents visiting the children? Whether I forgive my husband or not means absolutely NOTHING because he shouldnt even be looking fotr my forgiveness in the first place.
He should be looking for first God's forgiveness then THAT of those he caused pain in the first place and if those people decide to press charges after it, SO BE IT. |
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noetic (m)
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No, there is no room for insult, But Abortion in the case is not a crime and should not be in no form consider as a criminal act.
Sometimes we may be force by circumstance to live a certain life which may be cruel.
so cruelty is acceptable if the propagator is supposedly "ignorant" Abortion is denying someone the right to live. The right to a future and the fufilment of a destiny. Abortion is callous and condemnable by both moral, intellectual and spiritual standards. I will make exception for only genetic cases. and in this instance, I mean that when the birth of the child can lead to the death of the mother |
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TOH (f)
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I will make exception for only genetic cases. and in this instance, I mean that when the birth of the child can lead to the death of the mother
and who are you to make that exception? If you believe God is against abortion completely, who are you to make any exceptions? |
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Mesmerize (f)
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No, there is no room for insult, But Abortion in the case is not a crime and should not be in no form consider as a criminal act.
Sometimes we may be force by circumstance to live a certain life which may be cruel.
uhm. . each person to his/her opinion. No vexing if no one agrees with yours. .just smile and walk away |
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TOH (f)
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I completely agree with his.
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noetic (m)
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@ TOH ur response to the Love and Crime topic was liberal and fair. and who are you to make that exception? If you believe God is against abortion completely, who are you to make any exceptions?
My exception is a function of understanding. understanding that it is the will of God that we live and not die to proclaim His works. I don't know y a child whose birth is detrimental to the health and living of his mother should not be aborted. and by abortion for me personal, thats not an option because I do believe in miracles. but it is cogent and morally understandable if the birth of that chilf will lead to the death of his mother. |
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Mesmerize (f)
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I completely agree with his.
But I dnt fully agree. |
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syren (f)
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Still not making any sense
Please quote me the bible passage that says "Abortion is a sin unless it's by rape, genetic dieases, etc" because you people are just making up nonsense now
Personally I'm pro-choice so unlike YOU guys I don't go around saying "According To God, abortion is Murder EXCEPT FOR blah blah".
Abegi. If you're going to believe that abortion is murder, you better just accept that no matter the circumstances it's still a sin and stop fooling yourselves.
Abortion is a sin according to the bible, in it there are no exceptions as it said 'Thou shalt not murder' someone asked where it says abortion is a sin in the bible and there is evidence to believe it is. I didn't say the God makes exceptions I meant that I do. They should be taken as two seperate arguments.  |
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Esss (m)
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thou shalt not abort a baby - if u don't want it shut your legs.
In the event of rape - abortion is permissible.
In the event of a heart-break, I guess Murder is permissible. |
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noetic (m)
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In the event of a heart-break, I guess Murder is permissible.
Lol. . . . .  |
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419er (m)
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Please let's put in consideration some inconveniences facing some single mother today and some married couples without someone to help them in taking care of children while they're off to work.
I know the only solution religious people has to offer is the woman should stay at home or they should stop having sex.
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TOH (f)
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@ TOH
your response to the Love and Crime topic was liberal and fair.
My exception is a function of understanding. understanding that it is the will of God that we live and not die to proclaim His works.
I don't know y a child whose birth is detrimental to the health and living of his mother should not be aborted.
and by abortion for me personal, thats not an option because I do believe in miracles.
but it is cogent and morally understandable if the birth of that chilf will lead to the death of his mother.
Well same way you believe a peson has no rule over their own womb, you have no say over what they should do with a threatening baby, no be so? |
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TOH (f)
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Abortion is a sin according to the bible, in it there are no exceptions as it said 'Thou shalt not murder' someone asked where it says abortion is a sin in the bible and there is evidence to believe it is. I didn't say the God makes exceptions I meant that I do. They should be taken as two seperate arguments. seperate for what reason? Why is it ok for people to clam exceptions but at the same time call other reasons "wrong" and "against God". How are your exceptions not against God as well? |
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syren (f)
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seperate for what reason?
Why is it ok for people to clam exceptions but at the same time call other reasons "wrong" and "against God". How are your exceptions not against God as well?
I was simply stating a religious fact, didn't say I believed in it.  |
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noetic (m)
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Please let's put in consideration some inconveniences facing some single mother today and some married couples without someone to help them in taking care of children while they're off to work.
I know the only solution religious people has to offer is the woman should stay at home or they should stop having sex.
Those are not genuine reasons so i think u can't abort because u are facing difficulties or don't have someone to take care of d baby. and concerning sex, I tot there is sometin called safe sexWell same way you believe a peson has no rule over their own womb, you have no say over what they should do with a threatening baby, no be so?
those are two different instances.The mother with a threatnin baby has little or no option. Infact the doctors will readily recommend abortion to u. The one with a free-will womb is just wicked and callous. |
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419er (m)
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It's not important how long we live but the quality of life one achieved.
Not how many children you bears but the quality of life you offer them. Here in Africa we where being thought that the more children we bear the chances of getting rich cause you don't know which one to be the leader tomorrow but without good education what will come out? Crime.
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419er (m)
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Those are not genuine reasons so i think u can't abort because u are facing difficulties or don't have someone to take care of d baby.
and concerning sex, I tot there is sometin called safe sex
those are two different instances.The mother with a threatnin baby has little or no option. Infact the doctors will readily recommend abortion to u.
The one with a free-will womb is just wicked and callous.
Brother you're still to convince me with clues. |
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