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JustGood (m)
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The thing dey for Bible? Abi we just want add am to scripture?
Shebi Bible don curse anyone wey add anything join God's word
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laceybric (f)
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http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-148148.128.htmlMalama, Yeah u read internal madicine.but wot I said inially is ubder the anoinnting of the Holy spirit. So wonder wot d talk is abt Postural Hypotension. Dont need to google dat at all. You see the problem with people like you is attempting to link the things of the spiritual with the things of the physical. With the things of God, its no use doing dat cos you only end up confusing yourself more. Yeah we see things daily and try to understand it from our own point of view but deep down within us we know dat we rnt satisfied with our own expalnation. Or how would you explain how Jesus rose lazarus from his grave(tomb). Abi you go talk say, Lazzarus wasnt truly dead and his heart went on vacation for a few days or was it hrs? You attempting to expalin dat is difficult. Yeah scientists have made several hypothesis abt tins like this but still peeps arnt convinced
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MALAMA (f)
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Laceybric,
we are all entitled to our beliefs . From the description of your experience, that was postural hypotension. From the story of Lazarus, that was a MIRACLE. God's ways aren't our ways but everything strange thing that occurs cannot always be attributed to God/Holy Spirit/Anointing.
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Em2va
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Well, to him that believes, all things are possible,
What u believe is what u experience, Shikena!
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lamicome (m)
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falling under the annointing, it depends on you, your religion and maybe what u've been exposed to. nevertheless, the spirit is still as active as those days, and of course God still hyas those He uses to wrought miracles. Believe!thats all we need
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quadri_ade (m)
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to me i believe its all lies.in my secondary school days a pastor was invited to my school to pray for us when we wanted write our ssce.and he did all sort of stuffs with those who believed in it.there was this classmate of mine who went out intentionally and didnt fall despite all the pastors effort.THEY'RE ALL LIES.
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Okija_juju (m)
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Affee,
whatever I read in school and whatever grade I had isn't important. My post was to explain the 'falling under the annointing' of Laceybric. The fact that we see/hear/experience things which we have never experienced before does not always mean it is a supernatural event.
I 'came up' with fainting because that is what happenened to Laceybric from her post. Sorry,I don't fit into the mould of Xtians who see such 'unnatural events' and just say 'Glory,hallelujah etc'. The fact that such events may be beyond our understanding does not mean they are all spiritual experiences. Physical experiences occur and it takes those who understand it to enlighten those who do not.
I think you have gat a point. Falling under the anointing is nothing short of loosing conciousness due to the stimulation of the brain. It has been proven severally by hypnotists the world over. No offence, but we africans are way too close minded that we are susceptible to any and everything. Just like it is with hypnosis, you loose conciousness and fall to the ground. You feel no pain, but you can seriously hurt yourself as has been the case in some gatherings. These hypnotists cum Pastors exploit the gullibilty to benefit themselves. First question to all you pro-annointing people; * What is the significance of falling?? Does it mean your prayers have been answered?? what is the meaning and why is it such a big deal in 21 st century christian assembly. * Where in the bible did anyone fall under anything?? * Is falling indicative of someone possesed of the evil spirit or someone righteous?? FALLING UNDER THE ANNOINTING is as a result of "fainting/black out/loss of conciousness" caused by hypnosis brought about by "Mass hysteria" associated with the pentecostal/modern day form of christian religious worship.
The interesting part is that we willing submit ourselves to be hypnotised without even knowing it, and Most of these pastors are ignorant of what they are doing.Just because you do not understand the reason for an event does not make it supernatural. Ther are these breed of goats in an asian country that fall under whatever as a result of frequent seizures, does that mean they are being toppled over by spiritual forces?? |
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wanita_s (f)
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i agree wit malama & d others,
a few words, christians need to know wat they believe, these frenzies, hmmmmm they are definitely unscriptural, not all powers r of God, but pleasantly surprised that so many people know abt these antics of the evil one, so who de full dem churches  |
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blesd man (m)
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The physical contact I know of in the bible as it relates to the anointing has to do with the laying on of hands. anyway some men actually abuse this right given to them by people to have hands of others to be laid on them.
That's why I love Chris.
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gospelman (m)
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@ Ess,
You might be born again,attend services, but it is very evident that you need some level of godliness. Your words locate you, never forget that.
True, some Christians do not believe some stuff or the other because they are reasoning it out but the bottom line is that TRUTH cannot be changed by people's beliefs.
Some Christians do not believe in miracles, that does not mean they are no more christians. But that sounds like a life of Contradiction. How can you say you are a christian and you do not believe in miracles, and other things contained in the Gospel? That's amazing! How did you become a Christian? Did you see Jesus face to face and He told you to believe in Him? Did you not get born again by the Word of God that you heard and believed and declared your faith? Having started in Faith (believing in Someone whom you have never seen) how then do you want to end up in UNBELIEF (living by SIGHT)wanting to see things first before believing them?
Without FAITH it is impossible to please God! Even if the Pastor pushed you, go ahead and receive from the Lord and move on. Where is this talk of it being fake and all that going to lead you to.? If it be fake, you would find out in the day of Judgement. But just be sure to receive all that God has for you out here before it is too late.
That you do not believe in FALLING UNDER THE POWER or whatever you chose to call it, does not mean it is not real. Fact is you don't know who you are.You don't know who a Christian is.
The laying on of hands is an important and foundational doctrine of Christianity. Through the laying on of hands a whole lot of 'goodies' are transmitted. It could be healing, health, wealth, the Holy Ghost, etc. I laid hands on my younger brother and he received the Holy Ghost and began speaking in other tongues. That is part of the FOUNDATIONS of Christianity.
But we cannot remain at that level. There are levels in Christianity.
But let me just stop here for now,
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monex
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I think its is possible to fall under the anointing of the Holy spirit as with God all things are possible. That it may never have happened does not mean it is not possible. Some people think the Bible contains the WHOLE truth but there could be other sources of doctrine outside the bible. They must however not contradict what is in the bible though this requires the Holy Spirit for interpretation. For speaking in tongues, i also believe that its real.
The thing is this things are not the important things and Paul even says this in the bible. There was a time when i fake speaking in tongues but i repented of it and would never fake it again. i have never spoken in real tongues before. As for falling, i also have never fallen. Even when pushed i stand my ground.
I found that Africans have a desire to cling to an religious line of thought as against a rational line. this affects us in many ways. Read 48 Laws of Power (Greene). It is easy to make africans worship you as they long for such cause. Give them such a cause and remove every form of rationality by keeping it vague and unexplainable.
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albania
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hello!
I am a navy officer from Albania and i attend a Pentecostal church. the topic is very interesting and this is my answer to this question.
There are three possibilities to people falling.
1. The person's flesh is manifesting - this means that the person is under no anointing but he is falling to do like others or to look spiritual or not different from others.
2. The devil is manifesting through the person with like gestures
3.THE HOLY SPIRIT is so strong on the person that he falls under the anointing
When the holy spirit comes on a person there is such an overwhelming experience that all you think and all you want is more of God and Jesus. People are delivered healed and restored and the pastor or the person praying for you is not playing a role at all. its you and the Lord. Spirit to spirit realtionship. I have had cases where the presence of God has been so strong that you dont need to be touched or pushed to fall you just find yourself on the ground, and i am not an irrational person who just accepts anything that comes my way, in fact am rather sceptic in general.
this process doesnt involve any hypnosis, they are two different things. Hypnosis is the capture of the mind, annointing in the spirit has to do with a persons spirit, in the meanwhile your mind is under no one elses control.
God Bless Nigeria and the all the people he made in His image.
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shotster50 (m)
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I actually read that incident between Ali G and Benny Hinn somewhere. Personally I think majority of the these 'falling under anointing ' are fraudulent.
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ezeagu (m)
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115 people think its real, Nigerians are stupid, sorry  |
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SirJohn (m)
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There are recorded Biblical accounts of people being overwhelmed during certain supernatural encounters. Peter, Paul and John to mention but a few all had experiences that resemble 'the falling under the power' phenomenon. There is also another recorded incident in John 18:6 where a detachment of soldiers with Judas stumbled and fell before Jesus. However, you will also notice with careful study of your bible that it was not a norm among the new testament Christians. so where did this phenomenon come from? If you have read about the Los Angeles Azusa street revival of 1908, you'll understand how the 'slain under the power' thing became popular. infact several pentecostal and charismatic practices came after this revival. I do no intend to bore any one with the story so heres my take on the issue: Yes, I believe one can experience the power of God in an overwhelming manner (not necessarily falling down) but such experiences should not rob the person of his self control or judgement. Sadly what we see today in modern day pentecostalism is nothing more than psychological manipulation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn6FF5nhTSsWe need not say this over and over again but what you experience in most of the churches today is as a result of an induced suggestible state. This is known as the power of suggestion, mind over matter, mesmerism etc all of these methods are employed by these preachers. |
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