A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa

A Member? Please Login  
type your username and password to login
Date: December 01, 2008, 06:24 PM
266998 members and 163952 Topics
Latest Member: deedee70
Nairaland [Nigerian Forum] Home Help Search Who is currently online? Login Register
Nairaland Forum  |  General Discussion  |  Politics  |  A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
Pages: (1) Go Down Send this topic Notify of replies
Author Topic: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa  (Read 207 views)
panafrican
A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« on: July 05, 2008, 03:19 AM »

One Continent,one  nation,from Gilbraltar to the Cape of Good Hope, and from Gore Island To  somalia
One passport,one military,one flag.
SeanT21 (f)
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #1 on: July 05, 2008, 03:36 AM »

It will bring more problem and tribal conflicts. Its better seperated.

I can't imagine the UNITED STATES OF AFRICA.
abdurrazaq (m)
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #2 on: July 05, 2008, 01:12 PM »

Quote from: panafrican on July 05, 2008, 03:19 AM
One Continent,one  nation,from Gilbraltar to the Cape of Good Hope, and from Gore Island To  somalia
One passport,one military,one flag.

You must be joking Grin Grin.When the unification in Nigeria alone is no more accepted by some Nigerians, you are proposing a united Africa. The best thing to stop Xenophobia in Africa is for every African Nations to make their country comfortable enough for their citizens. Not that this would stop migration but, it will add to the respect those citizens get in their country of residence.
Ibime (m)
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #3 on: July 05, 2008, 01:59 PM »

Somehow I don't see myself living peacefully with the Somalians. Nice idea, but it is pipedream.
panafrican
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #4 on: July 05, 2008, 02:29 PM »

 It may be very difficult for the first 10 years but after a bumpy start, things will go  smoothly. The United states of America has had its own  bumpy ride on the road of federalism for decades.
thando (f)
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #5 on: July 06, 2008, 08:41 AM »

i agree with abdurrazaq, first make citizens comfortable in their current states then maybe in 80 years time or so we could see a UNITED STATES OF AFRICA. maybe we wouln't even have to go that far, just 5 nations in africa in my books is good enough i.e. Eastern, Western, Southern, Northern and Central Africa. Trust me this type of setting would be perfect and a little easier for africa because it wouldn't be too much of a culture shock in that it wouldn't deviate from what people were originally used to. Look , countries like Namibia, Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland with an average population of just 2 million people, Malawi, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Zambia, its long overdue that SADC regions are supposed to be 1 nation.also it doesn't make sense that Ghana and Nigeria are seperate when they so similar (my opinion).

theres way too many boundries in africa we should all gradually start doing away with them.
TOGETHER WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.
doyin13 (m)
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #6 on: July 06, 2008, 08:57 AM »

I trust you would agree, economic problems are best solve with economic solutions
not political gerrymandering.
CH3COO (m)
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #7 on: July 06, 2008, 08:59 AM »

Lol.  Isn't political tampering involved in pretty much everything.  It is the reason for the economy being fucked up in the first place, isn't it? doyin
Kobojunkie
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #8 on: July 06, 2008, 02:39 PM »

At no time, in the history of man, has Africa been united or without Boundaries. Infact, if you go around, you will realize that tribal boundaries exist most everywhere in Africa you go. What has pushing for unification of this sort to do with solving anything??? Please let's start thinking as intelligent human beings would, to solve problems the right way.
Don1DeMaco
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #9 on: July 06, 2008, 03:45 PM »

Quote from: panafrican on July 05, 2008, 03:19 AM
One Continent,one  nation,from Gilbraltar to the Cape of Good Hope, and from Gore Island To  somalia
One passport,one military,one flag.

Stupidity at its highest order??? probably the most ridiculous thing i've heard all year. One Afica, one nation, one this one that???
Its time people stop fooling around and start using their brains for more productive things or should i say realistic things

Just by the way side, who would be the ruler, or is it leader or president?Huh??
The oga of AU, or the president of the most populous black nation Yar Dull, or will it be the much celebrated Nelson Mandela or his side kick Thabo Mbeki, or maybe the enfant terrible Robert Mugabe or the longest serving president in Africa Omar Bongo, or u never know it might be the great one from Libya Ghadafi, Charles taylor might also contest the election if its a democratic system we adopt, and i wonder what the national language will be

Swahili, Zulu, English, French, Arabic, Portugese, Yoruba, Hausa, Pidgin English?Huh maybe the real dream of making pidgin english a universal language can be actualized,  should i go on or stop??? because currency, unified laws, head quaters, capital of US of Africa will be where, military installations, revenue derivation/ sharing, abeg wake up from ur slumber and try to contibute positively in building a beta Africa and stop making careless and unrealistic statements

I would have ignored u but out of nothing really important to do ihave decided to comment to see if i could save another soul waiting to be lost, not that its not an important gesture, but i have learnt that they are beta left alone unless u have time to spare,

Think before u start a thread, talkless of making a post or else go to the jokes column/ thread
panafrican
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #10 on: July 07, 2008, 03:02 PM »

You are just angry because somebody else said something you do not agree with? well I clearly understand why you see  that Democracy in the United States of Africa is doomed before the  birth of this federal state.

You 're worried about the fate of English? Good for you, but keep in mind ,English is one language  out of millions. The british empire  was able to spray its  language all over the world because this empire  was mostly involved in drogue business. The whole world knows that  Grin

This language is not important to Africa. It even can fade away in  next century  and another language  can take over. Where is latin today?
Even Chinese  swahili  or Guere  could be the next international language.

Who will be the leader ? this is the question that recalls us once again that africans are more enclined to power.
You are  thinking about this  Strong Man who will be in power for life, maybe .
In  the United states of Africa,  the president could be elected for 3 years , the number of terms should be two.
The most important thing here is fiscal responsibility, honest civil  servants, research, civil work, people's welfare,
strong and loyalist military,  accountability, etc. 
Nigeria should support this idea of federalism because it is the only african country that is not at war and that has the biggest number of its citizens in other african countries.Those countries are not all English speaking.

texazzpete (m)
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #11 on: July 07, 2008, 05:11 PM »

@panafrican
Nigeria is an amalgamation of several tribes, and even in Nigeria there's deep-seated antipathy and animosity between members of different tribes.
There's precious little unity even between neighbouring communities.


So now you want to repeat this same experiment on a grand scale. Encompassing an exponential number of tribes, languages and cultures. Not to mention RESOURCES. . .

I could go on and on. But i have to conclude that such a brainless idea does not do your IQ any credit at all.

We cannot comfortably share the oil in Nigeria. Now you want SA to share its resources with Somalia.

You really do not sound very smart at all.
panafrican
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #12 on: July 08, 2008, 03:06 AM »

well,the smartest ones with a very high IQ  have fought against federalism in the 1960s even before but still Africa is going nowhere with the small countries we have today  Undecided

Europeans are moving towards a stronger Europe.
If we want everybody to love each other before caring about the tremendous challenges ahead  this continent will drop for ever and one day or another our weak countries will be invaded and  overpowered  by  more powerful nations.
Dakore (f)
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #13 on: July 08, 2008, 04:07 AM »

yeah right. nice try. come back after the igbos and hausas (same country) are able to live in peace and harmony.
then we can talk about the zulus and the Massai coming to share a same space.

haha. what a wonderful world
Don1DeMaco
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #14 on: July 08, 2008, 10:06 AM »

Quote from: panafrican on July 05, 2008, 03:19 AM
One Continent,one  nation,from Gilbraltar to the Cape of Good Hope, and from Gore Island To  somalia
One passport,one military,one flag.

What has xenophobia got to do with a Panafrica state??? because that does not mean it would stop the Panafricans of south africa from still killing foreigners only this time they would be asians, or europeans or even americans because the same problems would still exist.

With the panafrican state it would not be xenophiobia again, but tribalism since we would be from the same country but different tribes, or should i say an extreme case of xenophobia would still exist as in the case of genocide or ethnic cleansing, because being from the same country does not mean those things would go away, infact it would even be more rampant

I think u need to check ur use of english words before starting threads or did ur teacher give u an assignment on making a sentence with the word xenophobia?Huh? because it just doesnt add up and ur reply to peoples post show u really have limited understanding of the language

why don't u start a new thread with what u think should be the Panafrican state's Lingua Franca
panafrican
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #15 on: July 08, 2008, 05:49 PM »

Quote from: Don1DeMaco on July 08, 2008, 10:06 AM
What has xenophobia got to do with a Panafrica state??? because that does not mean it would stop the Panafricans of south africa from still killing foreigners only this time they would be asians, or europeans or even americans because the same problems would still exist.

With the panafrican state it would not be xenophiobia again, but tribalism since we would be from the same country but different tribes, or should i say an extreme case of xenophobia would still exist as in the case of genocide or ethnic cleansing, because being from the same country does not mean those things would go away, infact it would even be more rampant
In a panafrican federation, Igbo won't be obliged to live near haussa, Tutsi in Rwanda or Burundi will have the opportunity to live far away from Hutu.
Anyway ,Great nations are borned from the use of force. In the years to come a panafrican government in exile will come to life.It takes a strong federal government to give common sense to those who do not want to unite.
We panafricans have the plan and it will work.

SeanT21 (f)
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #16 on: July 08, 2008, 05:54 PM »

Panafrican states just will not work.

In Liberia, several tribes hate each other. How will that work when the whole of Africa become one nation?

who will be the president? You know some war is going to break out over who is going to be the president of united Africa.
I can picture Charles Taylor vs some other African president. Before you look there will be rumors of war, tribal conflicts, resources conflicts, land conflicts, presidential conflicts, government conflicts,and more.

Let Africa be Divided. Please!!



panafrican
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #17 on: July 09, 2008, 05:24 AM »

Quote from: SeanT21 on July 08, 2008, 05:54 PM



I can picture Charles Taylor vs some other African president. Before you look there will be rumors of war, tribal conflicts, resources conflicts, land conflicts, presidential conflicts, government conflicts,and more.

Let Africa be Divided. Please!!




We even didn't try yet.Let's try something at least then go from there.
French and British fought a 100 -year war,Germany is part of the european union today despite WWII.
Anybody who  wins the majority of states will be the president for three or two years.
SeanT21 (f)
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #18 on: July 09, 2008, 06:18 AM »

Quote from: panafrican on July 09, 2008, 05:24 AM
We even didn't try yet.Let's try something at least then go from there.
French and British fought a 100 -year war,Germany is part of the european union today despite WWII.
Anybody who wins the majority of states will be the president for three or two years.


Some things just don't need to be experienced.
panafrican
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #19 on: July 10, 2008, 12:25 AM »


Quote from: SeanT21 on July 09, 2008, 06:18 AM
Some things just don't need to be experienced.

Is this the fear of change?   
Nigerian president will be a  state governor in the  United States of Africa.   Grin
SeanT21 (f)
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #20 on: July 10, 2008, 01:58 AM »

Quote from: panafrican on July 10, 2008, 12:25 AM
Is this the fear of change?
Nigerian president will be a state governor in the United States of Africa. Grin


all changes are not Possitive. I rather keep it this way.

why?
panafrican
Re: A Panafrican State,The Only Way To Fight Xenophobia In Africa
« #21 on: July 15, 2008, 01:57 AM »

Quote from: SeanT21 on July 10, 2008, 01:58 AM
all changes are not Possitive. I rather keep it this way.

why?
Yes, why ?
You know what ,in a panafrican state nigerian soldiers who went to Liberia  and Sierra leone would have been there for their country,the United States of Africa. They wouldn't  have the feeling of  fighting for some lost cause,thousands of miles away from home.
 What Are The Other Political Parties In Naija Besides Pdp And What Are Theirview  Who Is Fighting Corruption In The Presidency?  Gov Igbinedion Of Edo State, A Failure?   Page 2
Pages: (1) Go Up Send Topic to Friend by E-mail Reply 
Google
 
Web www.nairaland.com
Sections: TV/Movies (2) Music/Radio (2) Celebrities Job Talk Jobs/Vacancies (2) Career Talk Romance Books Politics Sports Fashion Travel
Health Schooling Religion General(2) Business Webmaster Programming Computers Phones Cars & Trucks

Links: Page1 Page2 Page3 Page4 Page5 Page6 Page7 Page8 Page9 Page10

Nairaland is owned by Oluwaseun Osewa
Nairaland Forum | Powered by SMF 1.0.12.
© 2001-2005, Lewis Media. All Rights Reserved.