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drbigdaddyg (m)
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Sorry oooooooooooooo
I just asked to be clear of some doubts. Anyways, I like your objection
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drbigdaddyg (m)
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 yeah, real 
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drbigdaddyg (m)
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NOooooooooh!!! you are hot or don't you remember Hota...........
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hot-angel (f)
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but i wanan be cool.  |
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drbigdaddyg (m)
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hmmn..........,
Okkkk, you have to be born again. This time, we'll give you this name: coola..........
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hot-angel (f)
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haha nuh uh!
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drbigdaddyg (m)
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Don't worry,let me think of a better alternative  ok, always bath with cold water. |
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WesleyanA (f)
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:coughs:
now back to the topic:
who has something to say about how MASSOB's support for a Biafra Breakaway is a Reality or Mirage. who wants to volunteer?
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Greatpeter (m)
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Cool down the tempo.
Good WesleyanA for displaying maturity.
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drbigdaddyg (m)
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So, what are you guys saying? I am all ears.
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WesleyanA (f)
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that you need to dump that your idea of biafra. . ... and tell your friends the same. |
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makgod (m)
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please lord don't let this happen , the tears is for the Northerners |
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drbigdaddyg (m)
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Wesle........... should have pmd me than going through that her curly or whatever way. Let me go further to telling her that, she needs to seek courtesy in matters that are very sensible otherwise, I wonder what happens to an injury that is added salt. Dumping that my idea of biafra, according to her, is very astonishing as how somebody who needs a help wouldn't know the manner for such approaches. Nawa ooooooooo.
Anyways, I'll still give some spaces.
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ProfCares (m)
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Well you have all made a technical errors in your judgement of the actualisation of the Biafran State. Let me tell you, wether you all like it or not NIGERIA is going to BREAK should be obvious to every right thinking person. The American intellingent report as already given a clue to that. Men, we are going on our own wether you all agree or not. Let me leave you all with this question: Please tell me who succeed Obasanjo?  |
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drbigdaddyg (m)
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Most of us that are doubting the posssibility of Biafra already know is a sure or must that Biafra is going to stand in less than little time. I will still maintain that is not my fault of what will happen. I enjoy the name Nigeria, but, the aspect of their treatment remains a menace to all easterners and southerners.
The worst form of it is that there is no rethink as they remain stiff-necked in their cracy.
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chibo
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I am currently working as a consultant in Romania. Believe me when I say that self determination is the only way for a common people to move foreward in peace -it is everywhere in eastern Europe. Look at Yugoslavia (and probably Iraq), the internal/ethnic division was too great they had to break!!
The fact of the matter is that Nigeria is not a viable country, the reasons have been set out and need not be repeated. The only way ALL the people of that land mass can enjoy an acceptable standard of living is by accepting the need for Federal government to be dissolved and for a Federation comprising independent states (broadly representing the broad spectrum of ethnic groups) to take its place.
It is naive to think that people (and history has proved this to be the case) representing a multitude of ethnic and cultural divisions, living on such a large land mass as Nigeria can produce a truly representative and effective government machinery - it is impossible.
What we should be doing is lobbying the international community to accept our right of self determination (as they have accepted in other countries). Yes, there are many economic interests who wish us to remain together. Why? Because it is not in their interest for us to be united and strong, but to stay divided and weak.
How long must the ordinary people of Nigeria continue to suffer due to the incompetence of the Federal government and a political system that does not in any way represent their interest? Not for long!!
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joftech (m)
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The problem with Nigeria is that there's no clearly stated mission/vision, the leaders both past and present are stupid set of people that lack the foresight to think about what they want for this country rather than fighting for a not yet deserved independence.
The founding fathers of the US of America have one vision, that vision is to see that would be citizen of the country they are founding will be free from all form of bondages, today their off springs continue to uphold that ideal and vision. Here in Nigeria our leaders are so demoralized that they don't even know what to do and when to do what they suppose to do, they are so concerned about administration, not about how they can make people to be free from bondages of poverty, unemployment and other ills that has plaque this hastily hacked up nation.
When anybody look at this country from a vintage point they will know that this country is on a downward journey toward breaking up, those intelligence reports should be taken seriously.
Citizens of this country have been disenfranchise for so long and this is the main reason why some want to try and rule themselves.
Remember, Russia did broke up and some of the breakaway countries are still strugling to get up and go.
Nigeria can be held together if our leaders can become purposeful leaders who will care so much about the citizens of this coutnry rather than being the kleptomaniac they are.
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Ajisafe
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Is WesleyanA really 15 years old? She is too intelligent for a 15 year-old. The Yorubaland is lucky to have you as an indigene. You'll definitely grow up to become our illustrious one. Amen!
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tayelolu (m)
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The people agitating for Biafra are nutcases. What does Biafra hope to survive on? Coal in Enugu! The people supporting the Biafran idea are as greedy as the present leaders,perhaps greedier. The Biafran agitators are banking on the oil in the south-south, while forgetting that the south-south will rather be anything but biafra. The Igbos are landlocked and will always remain a state between a state. They have less raw materials than the hausas who refuse to exploit it. They have terrible farmland therefore has to import food. They claim they are the connoiseur of banking, forgetting their are few clients in Biafra. They(Igbos) shout wolf all the timem, but their fellow criers(their leaders and adminstrators) are their greatest enemies. Back to my last post, their double-cry of marginalisation and separation is a contradiction that will keep haunting their aspiration of the prime office.
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owo (m)
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Which is more important ?
A message or he that sent the message? An artwork or the artist? Andesigner or his designs? A tree or its maker?
Whatever the answer that you give yourself, be it known to you that the reason why Nigeria is not and will not be a feasible state is that many are so degraded that they are bereft of the fact that the human being is the greatest resource that is on this planet.By judging the viability of a society based on the 'natural resources' they posess, you do indeed declare where you belong.
How many natural resources do these countries ...Japan, thailand, taiwan, luxembourg, Israel etc have? Does the viability of a state depend on what they have in their land/water/air?
For the purpose of information... all the natural resources within all the yoruba states cannot be compared with what imo state and anambra state possesses. Go and check it out. The west cannot survive without remaining a net importer of everything except water and air.
It takes only the blind and willingly ignorant not to realise this.
You can wait until when the south south and south east have gone, then reality will dawn on you.
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drbigdaddyg (m)
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Owo, thanks jorr. Tell him more.
Of all the natural resources Nigeria have right now, what has been her achievement, rather, she is still maintaining the most perverted country.
Tayelolu, I wouldn't say you have a little mentality not to have understood that the major factor to the devlpt of a state is the people . Nigeria is like the foolish/ungrateful servant who buried his talent, so it will only take our dissociation to be freed from the curses that have been holding swayed of us. So, if your consideration is on the availability of resources to the individual ethnicity, I would tell you you guys with all your resources would remain indebted to poverty.
There is no turning back from our ambition.
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff
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uchetobi (f)
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can't believe this thread is still alive
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joftech (m)
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can't believe this thread is still alive This thread ain't goin nowhere as long as the controversy lingers in our national debate. |
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CimonJorr (m)
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You know what?... I do agree with the comments from a contributer above, about Nigeria's main wealth being her abundance of human talent as a natural resource... And I wait for the day we'll have a candidate of calibre from the east mount the stand as Nigeria's next President.. But nothing is to be gained from believing that the solution to Nigeria's problems is a break-up of the country.. The axim "together we stand in strength" was not created today.. It is one of the fundamental facts or truths of nature.. We should stop seeking to destroy, but to build and create.. If in the event that "Biafra" was to become a 'state', which of the current Nigerian states would come under it's purview??.. Which Nigerian states are proposed to me members of its body??.. Because, I'm almost certain that the current Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers and Bayelsa states would not want to be members by their own volution or accord... So, by my thinking, that leaves the "Ibo" states of Imo, Anambra, Enugu, Abia, Ebonyi (maybe).. would these be enough to constitute a country?.. What plans for sustainance would be proposed for this "state"... My point here... In my humble opinion, a lot more would be achieved in positive thinking of how to move the lot of members of that part of the country, rather than destroying the current institution in favour of creating a state which may not be able to sustain itself..  ps.. for the post which made the observation of the countries which split in eastern europe and the middle east, I'D point to you the fact that those states had more divides along ethnic/religious lines that is possible in Nigeria today.. What I'm saying is that in those countries, the whole country was comprised of very few ethnicities which were equally divided along religious/ideological lines with an attendant supression of one of the ethnic groups.. the end result of which was an uprising of the supressed ethnicity against the rule of the land (which invariably was being controlled by the other ethnic group).. (If I may be so bold, a similar case to the Hutsi/Tutsi case in Rwanda(I hope I'm not off target here )).. Nigeria has the unique position of having far more ethnicities than many nation in the world presently, hence for it to become such polarized would take a very unique happening.. The best (or should I say worst) that has been done, has been for some cheap politicians to attemp this via religious lines (OIC membership adoption, or the Sharia governance issue, to name a few examples..).. We can see that the nation remains bigger than any ploy formented to create trouble or instability... The above represents my views.. they are not an absolute truth and should not be taken as such.. appologies in advance to anyone who's feathers are ruffled.. |
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tayelolu (m)
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Look here Owo and the other guy, you guys debate sentiment and not emotions, just read both of your post and see the hidden animosity from the west. Look here people came from as far as south korea and malaysia to admire the west's economic strategy when the west was run by Awolowo. Ok . On the Natural resource thing, go to the cia.gov and work your facts around. Mr Name caller. I would refrain from being like you owo.
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owo (m)
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Hello High Chief Tayelolu... You cannot be more of a westerner than I am. On top of that... you can see... I currently reside in the heart of the west. However, the issues are simple and clear, yet you have decided to use the age-old tactics of the unlearned.... attacking persons instead of issues when there is no more defence. I just hope you will allow sleeping dogs to lie.
In any case... we may need to wake the Old man up so that he can do it again (including re-introducing the onshore /offshore oil dichotomy etc). Unfortunately... his grandchildren are the masterminds of the looting, murder and rape of a potentially great country.
Please High Chief...can you tackle the issues?... your views are necessary. You are also advised to refrain from trying to be like Owo. It is the height of foolishness and only those that are willingly ignorant of their God-bestowed abilities strive to be like others.
The Issue is simple... an immoral system is at work in Nigeria. It is designed for the under-development of the constituent units of the country. It is currently being led, implemented and championed by westerners.
Yesterday the core north held sway.... and ensured that everywhere else (including their village) was raped and left in tatters. Today it is the west's turn and they have brought ethnicity to the fore (including subjecting others to un-necessary victimisation, denial of access and arrogating all to themselves). Tomorrow........ who knows.
How long will this place continue to be like this..... it is the greatest this-service to the black race... that the country that would have been its icon of hope is turned into a paupers slum. I call for it to be broken up. It is my candid, analytical and well researched view. I see it as a matter of 'when' and not 'if'.
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ono (m)
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Owo, If u need any support on this matter, I'm with you all the way. Your views are very well balanced. This country is too ''big'' - That word ''big'' is for the discerning minds only - the minds of Owo and Conscience.
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panthress (f)
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hey u guys kno igbo includes most parts of river states with the oil right? so if therez a biafra, nigeria will be nothin they will have no oil
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panthress (f)
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tayelolu. biafra will include the states with the oil if u don't know it. rivers and all places r igbo speakin places no matter how different their igbo is i think they will stand by their people. Lagos and all them places what do they have, they don't have a lot. about 8-15 states will go biafra but as small as they r. they got the tin, the oil and natural gas and that is what makes nigeria nigeria. the oil
talk back
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joftech (m)
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In 2020 oil will cease to be the main fuel for the world economy i wonder where all those people banking their wealth on oil will get the resource to build a nation then.
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