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panthress (f)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #160 on: January 07, 2006, 01:08 PM »

the igbo ppl still got other tingz, lol if oil will cease to be da world fuel, why r america in iraq?
CimonJorr (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #161 on: January 07, 2006, 01:15 PM »

For your information..

Not all South Eastern states are Ibo speaking..  Tongue

If this is the information on which your opinioned is formed, then it is faulty from the onset..


Quote from: panthress on January 07, 2006, 04:43 AM
snip...  biafra will include the states with the oil if u don't know it. rivers and all places r igbo speakin places no matter how different their igbo is ..

Which states did you have in mind when you mentioned these 8 - 15 states?? Huh
Do they include the current Cross River, Akwa Ibom,  Bayelsa ?? Huh

Quote from: panthress on January 07, 2006, 04:43 AM
snip... about 8-15 states will go biafra...


Possible successor for Nigeria's Presidency, Gov. Kalu of Abia state..
panthress (f)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #162 on: January 07, 2006, 01:29 PM »

im not sure abt akwa ibom n cross rivers deffo not bayelsa, but i think rivers wld go
CimonJorr (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #163 on: January 07, 2006, 01:32 PM »

In the current Rivers state, you have Ogoni, Andoni, Kalabari, Okrika, Opobo, Ijaw, Ikwerre and a lot more ethnic groups than I can mention here..

These are not Ibo speaking...

[The only one that comes close is Ikwerre.. and trust me, even that is not Ibo..  Tongue]

so, what does that leave you with?? Huh  Tongue


Quote from: panthress on January 07, 2006, 01:29 PM
im not sure about akwa ibom n cross rivers deffo not bayelsa, but i think rivers would go
panthress (f)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #164 on: January 07, 2006, 06:53 PM »

the governor of rivers state is igbo Peter Odili speaks igbo his wife igbo too Mary Odili formerly nzenwa. dude pplz in river state r all of igbo origin and they speak igbo but juz another dialect juz like all other igbo speakin states, their dialects r different in each state. lol u kno what part of rivers odiliz from?
odili is igbo n runnin thingz in rivers so what does dat tell u abt da state?
KING JAJA OF IPOBO EX IGBO SLAVE FROM Ama igbo and Opobo does speak igbo so boi i dunno what u on abt
CimonJorr (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #165 on: January 08, 2006, 12:03 PM »

Dr. Peter Odili: BIOGRAPHY  http://www.onelga.com/Hisexcellency.htm


His Excellency Dr. Peter Odili was born to the Odili family of Ndoni in the Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni Local Government Area (ONELGA) of Rivers State.

He graduated from the Medical School of the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, and pursued post-graduate work in Tropical Medicine at the University of Liverpool in the United Kingdom. He is the proprietor of PAMO Clinics, a private medical facility in Port Harcourt.

In 1988/89, Dr. Odili was elected member and leader of Rivers State Delegates to the Constituent Assembly.

In 1992, he was elected and served as the Deputy Governor of Rivers State. Following the demise of the Third Republic, he was again elected to the National Constitutional Conference and became the Conference Committee Chairman on State Creation. Dr. Odili thereafter became the National Secretary of the defunct Democratic Party of Nigeria (DPN).

The one time director of Michelin Nigeria Limited, holds one of the highest Award of Distinguished Medical Practitioner of Nigeria.

On May 29, 1999, after duly winning his Party's nomination and the general gubernatorial election, he was sworn-in as the first Executive Governor of the new Rivers State .

 
 
[Well.. I've backed my own assertations up with information.. Where's the info to support yours?...  Huh Huh Huh]


Quote from: panthress on January 07, 2006, 06:53 PM
the governor of rivers state is igbo Peter Odili speaks igbo his wife igbo too Mary Odili formerly nzenwa. dude pplz in river state r all of igbo origin and they speak igbo but juz another dialect juz like all other igbo speakin states, their dialects r different in each state. Cheesy u kno what part of rivers odiliz from?
odili is igbo n runnin thingz in rivers so what does that tell u about da state?
KING JAJA OF IPOBO EX IGBO SLAVE FROM Ama igbo and Opobo does speak igbo so boi i don't know what u on about
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #166 on: January 09, 2006, 08:16 AM »

the debate about the sections of the country that will/do belong to biafra is for the constituent units to decide.... for now, the issue is simply this: as a group... they are all dissatisfied with being part of the abberation called Nigeria.

This thread, I understand, is aimed at proving whether Biafra is a mirage or reality. Let those that asked the question be fully informed that it is a reality, what ever the size, status or number of constituent units.
tayelolu (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #167 on: January 18, 2006, 12:47 AM »

here we go again. Oil and natural gas agitators. Debating how to carve the oil resources.Most of you are as greedy as the older generation. Big deal. The west without oil. Again check your fact books. Most of the Opec nations with far more oil than nigeria are drowning in poverty.Have you ever heard of the Dutch curse? if not go find out. For you young nigerians agitating a breakaway, go research the history of break-aways and the geopolitical crisis that follow. Of all the G-8 nations only Russia is a net exporter of oil. Oil is more of a curse than a blessing,especially in sub-saharan Africa where tribe and ethnic loyalties is everything. Owo refrain from lenghty and overtly non-concise articles, ne more concise clear and pithy.
collynzo (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #168 on: February 02, 2006, 07:59 PM »

     The question is not if it's a reality or a mirage, the question is How can biafra survive on its own?
Most people are crying out for the soveriegn state of biafra with the belief that the south expecially the south- East has been intimidated for a long time and thats why the south has remained underdeveloped for five decades now since the existence of the republic of Nigeria.But let me tell you, we know that it is not true.The problem has always being greed.The truth is that southernans are so greedy.The northernans has nothing to do with our backwardness as am a southernan aswell.I sometimes wonder how STATE OF BIAFRA is going to survive on it's own.
     You see its a region where every body fights for ME, MYSELF AND I.Can you image that transportation is more expensive here in the south where we have better fuel and it is being produced than in the north where some don't even know the real colour of fuel? but check out prices of commodities produced there in the north very moderate.Check out the government of the southern states and compare with the northern states and see what am talking about.I remember clearly during the millitary reign of gen. Ibrahim Babangida to the time of gen. Abdusalam Abubakkar how that southernans were wishin that a southernan should become the democratic leader of our great nation so that the country will be changed over night.And God answered the prayers although the first opportunity was terminated.But now that a southernan has been there for two tenures what differenc has he made? All we see is price hike, partial display of justice, intention to keep a seat which is not meant for one man alone.
     I think what MASSOB should do first is to work on their minds.
CimonJorr (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #169 on: February 03, 2006, 01:15 PM »

@ Collynz..

hear hear ! ! !   Wink
toshmann (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #170 on: February 22, 2006, 01:52 AM »

drbigdaddyg how can u live in umuahia and talk of voting in the right leader.don't u know what electios in nigeria are Cry
Jebs
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #171 on: March 08, 2006, 05:40 PM »

Good day to you all, Commenting on the Biafra and Massob Issue, I would like to say that it is not justified to just come out after the millitary era and start struggling for a Biafran state. But brothers if we look at this issue from another angle we would notice that the cause dis people are fighting for are justified, because if you go back to memory lane you would notice that the Igbos have ruled this country only once while the hausas and the yorubas have all have a field day, when you talk of development in the east, their is no development at all.
Lets all face the fact this people are being maginalise and it is not the best for our young democracy, am not saying fighting for Biafra is justified, but lets all reason with this people and lets all join hands togather to fight for their cause rather than making some arguement that wont solve anything,  I think its high time for all Nigerian to be their brothers keeper, cause had it been it where the North that we have all the natural resources we have in the Niger Delta region I guessb we wont be saying all this cause we all know what they are capable of doing.
Thanks
joftech (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #172 on: March 08, 2006, 10:24 PM »

Apologies to my Igbo brothers and sisters. But I will like you all to know that the igbos are not ruling Nigeria simply because of their past insurrection.

Most of their peers of people ruling Nigeria today have been killed during the war so it may take some years for them to have a viable candidate. 
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #173 on: March 10, 2006, 09:33 AM »

@ joftech, apologies or not, there is nothing to prove that the Igbo folks that died during the war are the people that would have ruled now. That's too mean and its simply untrue.

Rather, the Nigerian State has been held hostage by the same set of 'selfish', 'inconsiderate', 'uneducated', 'unenlightened' and greedy gang of military (and military apologists) men. They are the same set of people that have ruled since 1967.

Incontrovertibly, there is no link between those that died during the war, and the lack of an Igbo president in Nigeria's recent history.


joftech (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #174 on: March 10, 2006, 07:32 PM »

Owo, can/will you please step forward and nominate a feasible and viable candidate.
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #175 on: March 11, 2006, 01:28 PM »

No nominations for you my dear, only the blind do not see that in the current 'blind' government, its the Igbo elements within it that have one eye and have made all the achievements.

Its the Yoruba's that do not have any feasible and viable candidate. Can you nominate one?
joftech (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #176 on: March 11, 2006, 06:02 PM »

We already have a front runner (in person of the Balogun himself), whom do you present, non i think.
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #177 on: March 16, 2006, 01:56 PM »

We the 'igbos' hereby present joftech, tafa balogun, bode george, tinubu and above all the 'balogun' himself.
After-all people from the maligned tribe died during the war neither have their children grown up since 1967. QED
gbade. x (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #178 on: March 17, 2006, 06:06 PM »

excuse me, exactly what is the use of this agitation? is it for the emancipiation of the igbos or for their own ulterior motives(forgive the language)? what we as Nigerians should be concerned about is, who the next ruler would be, what would he do, how would he do it, if he would uplift the masses, not all this empty talk. i don't propose for a Biafran state. rather what i propose, is how the igbos themselves can uplift themselves. how the prominent igbos in the nation can uplift their people. remember charity begins at home.

@everyone in this thread: if you all would notice, anytime a topic like this comes up, it usually or should i say revolves around  oil and gas. if it's not that, it's how the proposed marginalized different tribes would  share the "national loot" when they get into power. has any of you paused to ask yourselves this question? why is it that the Governors of this South-East States can't account accurately for the funds and dividends allocated to them? inasmuch as igbos shout "marginalization", have they ever asked their Governors and leaders what they do with the money??
biggjoe (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #179 on: March 31, 2006, 12:00 PM »

Is it only Igbos that will uplift their own people by themselves? What about other tribes. Are we not all Nigerians. Why then should the federal government funds and policy uplift some set of people while the Igbos will have to uplift themselves. And I dont know why people think that Igbos are not uplifting themselves in the first place.

Who told these people that our Governors are not accounting for our money. Is it in Yorubaland or the north that we have the best governors?

Check the latest ranking of governors two governors out of five made top ten. Why cant these people just accept that they are oppressing the Igbos. They can say its because they dont have any choice.

These arguments always revolve around oil because other people other than Igbos always bring it up as our reason for seccession. Thats because they are afraid that Biafra will take oil with them if they part with nigeria.

I am an Igbo man but I believe that a united Nigeria will favour every nigerian, igbo, yoruba or hausa but we can only achieve this if some people accept that they are oppressing some people and stop it. Then and only then Nigeria will be a better place for everybody.

South Africa did it only when the whites accepted that they are oppresing the blacks so also in US.
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #180 on: March 31, 2006, 02:22 PM »

The biggest crab and most foolish question that has been peddled around in the last few years is this:

why is it that the Governors of this South-East ( or south south) States can't account accurately for the funds and dividends allocated to them.

Having been born, bred but not buttered in the western part of Nigeria, I insist that baring very few exceptions,some of the most wasteful, unaccountable and unreasonable of state governments are in the Western parts of Nigeria.

This question is a sign of the crass (and willing) ignorance that bedevils many a Lagos or Western bred soul. This is a destructive self belief that makes even supposedly educated brains to allow thier minds to walk backward in time and flow of ideas and its a clear symptom of Nigeria's greatest disease -Tribalism.


GL (f)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #181 on: August 18, 2006, 03:48 AM »


I can't imagine that the Ibo traders in Lagos would consider leaving 'Nigeria' for 'Biafra'.

For all I care, MASSOB can break away and have their Biafra, though I belive they would be worse off. The only problem comes when they want to break off with non-Ibos. The South-South states have Ibos, but are definitely not Ibo states. If Ibos in Delta and other S/S states want to join Biafra, they'll have to leave the states. That's where the fighting would come.

I think the Biafra proponents are jobless. They should be thinking of better ways to move the Ibo tribe forward.
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #182 on: August 18, 2006, 09:15 AM »

They are not jobless.

They have seen what you have are not seeing.

They have a right to be what they want to be, just like you have the same right.
Why must their desire to get their right be confused with joblessness?

I still insist that Nigeria, as presently constituted, is designed to fail. Therefore every component should seek its own future.
sleekmike (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #183 on: November 30, 2006, 02:56 PM »

Whether one likes it or not, the Igbo man is tired of the entity called Nigeria and wants to be left alone. So whether you call it MASSOB or whatever, NDI'IGBO wants to be free.
For you to think that Biafra is a mirage, you better think twice.
They enjoy mass fellowship.
The Ohaneze Nd'Igbo has failed the Igbo man and Massob has become the rallying point.
But to me, whether Nigeria of Biafra, i dont want more bloodshed.
laudate
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #184 on: November 30, 2006, 05:15 PM »

Quote from: owo on March 31, 2006, 02:22 PM
The biggest crab and most foolish question that has been peddled around in the last few years is this:

why is it that the Governors of this South-East ( or south south) States can't account accurately for the funds and dividends allocated to them.

Having been born, bred but not buttered in the western part of Nigeria, I insist that baring very few exceptions,some of the most wasteful, unaccountable and unreasonable of state governments are in the Western parts of Nigeria.

This question is a sign of the crass (and willing) ignorance that bedevils many a Lagos or Western bred soul. This is a destructive self belief that makes even supposedly educated brains to allow their minds to walk backward in time and flow of ideas and its a clear symptom of Nigeria's greatest disease -Tribalism.

You have just given yourself away. Lemme guess, even though you were born in the West or bred there, you are not a Yoruba man. Or you are one who has been brain washed by ethnic jingoists. How sad, the same tribalism you condemn, oozes from your words, just read between the lines.

As for the question that was asked about the South-East & South-South governors, why don't you just answer it - if you know the right answers, instead of peddling hate & insults?
laudate
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #185 on: November 30, 2006, 05:21 PM »

Collynzo,

Well said!! Good thought!! Cheesy

9ja4eva (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #186 on: March 16, 2007, 07:23 AM »

Reality cos they are taking Biafra serious and i heard they have the currencies.
laudate
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #187 on: March 16, 2007, 06:12 PM »

Quote from: owo on August 18, 2006, 09:15 AM
I still insist that Nigeria, as presently constituted, is designed to fail. Therefore every component should seek its own future.

I still don't understand this morbid desire you have for Nigeria to fail. So if it fails, do you think it will happen peacefully? Do you realise that if an implosion were to happen within Nigeria, millions of its' citizens would be far-flung across West Africa as refugees? Is that what you wish for yourself & everyone else? I hope not. Sadly, many of those who preach war or seccession, do not sit down to count the cost of war, before they embark on it. If people could predict accurately the effects of a war, they would think twice before rolling out their ammunition.

And how are you so sure that if Biafra became a reality, the penchant of the Igbo man to migrate to different states or nations, would be curtailed? I don't think so. Even though they would now have their own state, I think they would still migrate to the northern part of Nigeria, to trade.  And I still believe nothing much, would change.

Don't forget that the principle of territorial sovereignty would now apply to each state, and the government of either country could choose at any time, to expel non-citizens within its' borders. The Federal Govt. of Nigeria woke up in 1983 to expel Ghanaians from its' country. Nigerian authorities had begun arresting aliens who had no residence permits and valid travel documents. The Ghanian press reported then, that Nigeria had given such aliens 30 days to leave voluntarily and would expel those remaining after Nov. 15 1983. So they left, taking very little with them.

Is that what people who advocate the break up of Nigeria, would like to see?

Read more about this issue at this link:
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:v8Qe85bvogUJ:query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html%3Fres%3D950DE5DC1439F935A35752C1A965948260+ghanaians+expelled+from+Nigeria&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ng


That's my two cents.
9ja4eva (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #188 on: March 17, 2007, 08:25 AM »

Well am confused abt whole break up idea.
laudate
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #189 on: March 26, 2007, 08:11 PM »

Quote from: owo on March 31, 2006, 02:22 PM
The biggest crab and most foolish question that has been peddled around in the last few years is this:

why is it that the Governors of this South-East ( or south south) States can't account accurately for the funds and dividends allocated to them.


It is a simple question, not a foolish one. Let someone answer it. All governors in all parts of Nigeria need to be held accountable for the people's funds & taxpayer's money.
9ja4eva (m)
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #190 on: March 27, 2007, 05:24 AM »

Yeah starting with Ibori cos hes d biggest thief.
Ezeágu
Re: MASSOB Wants a Biafra Breakaway. Reality or Mirage?
« #191 on: July 03, 2009, 06:14 PM »

Quote from: 9ja4eva on March 17, 2007, 08:25 AM
Well am confused abt whole break up idea.
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