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yawa-ti-de (f)
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In light of a recent post, I have decided to write on this topic and solicit your responses. Just like the term, "web designer" as been misconstrued within the Nigeran context to refer to anyone who does any kind of Front End Web Development (as opposed to a graphics designer), I think the term, "template" is also being misconstrued. Moreoever, it appears to be given a bad rap. So, what is a template? Well, even applying it to other spheres of life, a template is something that you build once and use multiple times. Back in the stone ages of **web development**, it wasn't uncommon for a 5-page site for instance to have each of those 5 pages totally different from the other. I should know - I developed such sites myself  In any event, when the discipline of usability engineering became more and more mature, it became a consensus that for consistency/"not to confuse the user" reasons, all pages should look alike with respect to layout. Thus the template was born. The exception of course would be where, say, I personalize my page(s) to look different from the default. Then again, that is user-initiated. If we go by this definition, you can see that I am right so far in my assertions: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Web+template&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=titleBottomline, there is nothing to be ashamed of with respect to building/using a template. Your aim is to reduce development time, not to repeat yourself and to crank out quality code in an efficient manner. Now, if you rip off someone else's idea and lack the smarts enough to at least customize a few features is another issue entirely. So again I ask, what is a template within the Nigerian context? Could it be that, just like "web designer" we actually mean something else? If that is the case, shouldn't we do it right and give it the name it deserves? Let's stop using terms for which we know not what they mean just because Okoro used the term first many many years ago. I personally would prefer the term, "boiler plate" design which means rather than create your own, you basically copy and paste someone else's design and modify just the content to suit your needs, but thatz just me. of course, such "boiler plates" tend to be mass produced and as such not that visually appealing. Also, should you run into any problems, since you didn't do it yourself, chances are you wouldn't know how to fix it and finally, at least from experience, i have never "met" a "boiler plate" that I haven't ended up changing around just to suit my needs. Definition of boiler plate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boilerplate_%28text%29Thoughts? Comments? Come on folks, letz LEARN something.
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uspry1 (f)
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Nice write up, Yawa!
Nothing wrong with using boilerplate template to be modified the content suiting your need in order to make your client happy!
Unfortunately for the USA Big Company with Designing Department, they do not allow web developers using any KIND OF BOILERPLATE TEMPLATES. They prefer from the scratch template creatively and dynamically.
Every time I see online job opening of web developer/designer with the WORD EMPHASIZED: "No Boilerplate Template Allowed" or "No Template-driven Allowed" everywhere.
Just depend on what client want for web developer to create or use! For example a client show you the templatemonster ID# to be cloned exactly to create new website with different color or style. It does not mean that developer buy that templatemonster ID# to modify fitting client's need.
Templatemonster is a paid boilerplate template site created by original template designers to make money, IT IS NOT A FREE!
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OmniPotens
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I hope I'm not digressing here.
I think the use of boiler plate design should also be put to a stop.
@uspry1
What you said about templatemonster.com is exactly what I do. I get one, look up the layout, make a sample mock up of my own design then off I go with the designing thing.
@yawa
I will still take a better look into the main topic then make up something out of what I figure out.
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hanen (f)
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I think people don't want their designers to use templates because it gives the impression of a lack of creativity on the designer's part. I personally have no problem with using a template as a BASE for a design, but many designers tend to change only the body content, and maybe two or more images. That, frankly, reeks of laziness.
A web designer, can't show me a portfolio full of templates and expect me to be impressed. I'm sorry. The person didn't think up the code, design or layout, he just changed a few things on it. That's not the best.
As a potential client, I wouldn't want my site to look like mirrored image of other sites. Especially a free template. So what am I paying the designer for? I feel people should use templates for inspiration. At the very most.
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yawa-ti-de (f)
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@hanen, again with the wrong use of the word, "template". You are using the wrong word to describe the right thing. You don't mean "template", you mean "boiler plate template.
Look up my definitions, as supported by links, above.
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smartsoft (m)
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hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ! well as a Visual Designer, i hate it well people refer to design i made as a template, because it seems like me coping a template and re-designing it again adding some images and all that, as a Visual Designer, you need to be creative on your own, lets take cars for example, TOYATO car and BMW car aren't samething, but the creativity still remains that, the visual design, dashboard, the Engines aren't samething,but you and i call them cars. i don't like it when designers use boiler template, i will say people who leant designs today and come up with a site, are better of the bolier template designers, who customised template, even those boiler template you see are design done by people, so  @yawa can i copy and paste your Article on my blog  ?? the credits go to you 4real, www.ucheugo.com
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yawa-ti-de (f)
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@smartsoft Sure thing. Post away 
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smartsoft (m)
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Okay will do that in next 5 hours, i will need your mail too uc@ucheugo.com you could send it there too ! thankssssssssssssss
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yawa-ti-de (f)
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yawatide at yahoo dot com
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ztyle (m)
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Can i chat with u too? 
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yawa-ti-de (f)
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@ztyle
if u r talking to me, sure. send me an email first though. I like to know more about the people I am chatting with before I actually YIM them.
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ztyle (m)
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Knowing me its very easy u can get my e-mail from my blog but i prefer we YIM to know each other more better.
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Dual Core
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yeap using templates is considered an amatuer thingy. but that's just sick, i don't think i will ever have to write a style sheet from scratch again when i have written so many and could just bring up any of them and mod to fit the present site. In school we were brought up with the background that its all about getting the job done in the less time possible and best quality. and u can always upload now, update later, everything doesnt have to be right at first. so in this era of Object Oriented programming, one of the keywords is Re-usability. hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ! well as a Visual Designer, i hate it well people refer to design i made as a template, because it seems like me coping a template
hehehe, yea bro i feel u on that one. i spent time on a site re-modding a template then i showed a chic and she studied the source codes and she was like "tsheeew, template act", told her to get lost. u don't have to bother yourself bro, just do it right and well, who cares if it was a template act when u get ur paycheck? 
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smartsoft (m)
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hahaha yes ooo, how does it sound, you sitting in fornt of a drawing booking trying to skectch a design layout and at the end of the whole thing, someone will say u use template, well at least that should tell you, you did a very good job for someone to call it a template lol
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yawa-ti-de (f)
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@dual_core so when you say: yeap using templates is considered an amatuer thingy. Are you implying that when you use code you have written before (which, letz face it, is a template), that that too is an "amateur thingy"? Please explain.
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Dual Core
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@dual_core so when you say:Are you implying that when you use code you have written before (which, letz face it, is a template), that that too is an "amateur thingy"?
Please explain.
don't get me wrong please. what i mean is this. when you use templates, some narrow minded people just think u're not good enough and u shoulda done stuff from scratch. when i mentioned "templates" in that context, i was referring to already made sturvs that are out there for grabs. i wasnt referring to your own reusable components. did this help?
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OmniPotens
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SawyerrKen, what you said is actually correct. Even if you make use of your own, some see if that you are not capable. Frankly speaking anyway, templates help make jobs get easier. If you are kind of clueless, you could borrow ideas and integrate and get your job done well.
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