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toshmann (m)
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so kobojunkie can not understand that such a joke, with terror insignia, and a touch of dark skin, and burning US flag, and picture of and islamic leader on the wall, is not funny in the united states.
he does not understand that it is very offensive, neither does he appreciate the depth of its offensiveness.
he does not understand that politics is no excuse or explanation for such a caricature. some jokes are just not acceptable.
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Kobojunkie
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so kobojunkie can not understand that such a joke, with terror insignia, and a touch of dark skin, and burning US flag, and picture of and islamic leader on the wall, is not funny in the united states.
he does not understand that it is very offensive, neither does he appreciate the depth of its offensiveness.
he does not understand that politics is no excuse or explanation for such a caricature. some jokes are just not acceptable.
Oh please!!! ROFLMAO!!! |
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toshmann (m)
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lol  . . . keep on laughing. . . . so i'm funny too . . . |
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Mamajama (m)
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This cover depiction of Obama and his wife is tasteless and should be repudiated.
The false portrayal of Obama and his wife a scholar and a well respected candidate is bias.
Republican has been trying without any success by depicting Obama as a Muslim. This kind of fear tactics will backfire and will only make Obama more likeable among swing voters.
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KarmaMod (f)
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Ah The NewYorker and its "highbrow" humor
I mean I get the "irony" and everything but most people wouldnt. Most Americans don't like the NewYorker anyway, they find it pretentious but they sure found a way to get popularity with this cover.
Burning of the flag? That will definitely get the average American's attention
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Big B1 (m)
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I see this as a positive development in favor of Obama.
Lately, Americans are too damn smart to fall for this weak/ cheap strategy.
It is very funny and I say, keep it coming; fortunately, Obama is full of energy and of course, he also has an incredible sense of humor. At this point, I do not see anything stopping this cat.
I could just see him laughing his asss off.
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Kobojunkie
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Ah The NewYorker and its "highbrow" humor
I mean I get the "irony" and everything but most people wouldnt. Most Americans don't like the NewYorker anyway, they find it pretentious but they sure found a way to get popularity with this cover.
Burning of the flag? That will definitely get the average American's attention
Now that is more of the America I know. How many AVERAGE AMERICANS( the so called dumb people of america) actually read the NEWYORKER?? lmao!! |
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toshmann (m)
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americans may not buy the new yorker, i didnt but i've seen the cover. it's all about what is in the limelight. and what makes it bad is that people wont go for details. we are in an age of soundbites. people see some little stuff that suggests something and that's it. nobody goes for details to know what is really being said.
so those anti obama dudes will see it and confirm their delusions.
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Kobojunkie
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americans may not buy the new yorker, i didnt but i've seen the cover. it's all about what is in the limelight. and what makes it bad is that people wont go for details. we are in an age of soundbites. people see some little stuff that suggests something and that's it. nobody goes for details to know what is really being said.
so those anti obama dudes will see it and confirm their delusions.
WOW, you really think other people are not as intelligent as you are huh??? WOW! If they are already ANTI-OBAMA, does that there tell you all you need to know?? Do you think offering you a Caricature of Bush as a God like creature, knowing what I know now of your view of him, is likely to change your mind?? Will Offering you a caricature of Bush as the devil change much?? |
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edition (f)
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As far as I'm concerned (nothing to do with kobojunkie's views), this depiction of Obama doesnt faze me in any way because I'm a regular viewer of www.jibjab.com. A site established to satirize political candidates. Bill Clinton has been on there, George Bush, Hillary, and a lot of other politicians. The New Yorker cartoon isnt about Obama's race- its about his M'uslim background. Deny it as you will, his father was M'uslim and when you're running for the office of president, if you can't handle heat, then you should stay out of the kitchen. He's an African chief. Dont know about the headgear, but the attire is African. hmmm, they havent even introduced sambo yet, and people are complaining.Michelle's hair actually isnt too bad. If they were making fun of her race, they would have depicted her hair in a way that would leave no doubt at all about what they meant. The cartoon is satirizing them as individuals, not on the basis of their race. |
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KarmaMod (f)
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I don't think its "racist" either. It's that burning flag I'm looking at.
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edition (f)
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the flag is underneath the picture of Osama.
Not the first time Obama has been linked to his Is'lamic heritage.
Michelle here might be a black panther or something. I think one of their slogans was " Power to the People". Black Panthers also have links to Is'lam.
The flag burning is typical Iran rhetoric.
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buchio7 (m)
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and why exactly is this topic necessary?
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toshmann (m)
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@kobo,
it's not about intelligence. i'm not trying to insult the intelligence of the american voters. intelligent people can be very subjective too. i can be subjective too. my support for obama (and indeed McCain . . i'm a republican at heart for their anti abortion stands) was not entirely for intelligent reasons. McCain was softer on immigration and gained my admiration compared to rudi and romney and he was/is an american hero. that was a subjective support, it doesnt mean he would be a better president than those other two
obama wan my heart with some of his speeches and of course his skin color. but i fell for him when j.edwards(whom i really liked since '04 endorsed him)
if i were an american citizen, by now i would still be undecided between McCain and Barrak. but all these are subjective based support. there is no real evidence of who will be the best president among these people and i know it. i'm too old and intelligent to be decieved by rhetorics. i know when these dudes get to the oval office things will be different from what they are saying
point is,(i know you have a problem understanding points) that voters are subjective does not mean they are not intelligent. it simply means they are using their heart and not their brains. i'm not calling american voters dumb. abeg.
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toshmann (m)
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the flag is underneath the picture of Osama.
Not the first time Obama has been linked to his Is'lamic heritage.
Michelle here might be a black panther or something. I think one of their slogans was " Power to the People". Black Panthers also have links to Is'lam.
The flag burning is typical Iran rhetoric.
and somebody here believes it is a joke |
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davidylan (m)
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and why exactly is this topic necessary?
why exactly do you feel the need to respond to an unecessary topic out of the hundreds of thousands here? and somebody here believes it is a joke
yup lets all laugh over the "joke" in the same country where lapel pins almost cost Obama the nomination. |
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Big B1 (m)
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and somebody here believes it is a joke It isn't a joke, but it should be taken as a joke. By taking this too serious will only send a wrong message to the haters and enemies of progress. |
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edition (f)
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there's no need for a do or die attitude about obama's candidacy.
We are not in Africa, where sit tight rulers and rigged elections are the norm, and people kill each other over politics.
Al Gore accepted his defeat gracefully, even though there were a lot of questions marks about George Bush winning. Al Gore's supporters went on with their lives after the whole thing.
People should learn to accept winning or losing gracefully. That's the mark of a progressive society.
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Kobojunkie
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Let me try breaking this down for you to see how you continue to loose me in this, @kobo,
it's not about intelligence. i'm not trying to insult the intelligence of the american voters. intelligent people can be very subjective too. i can be subjective too.
I am glad you acknowledge this. my support for obama (and indeed McCain . . i'm a republican at heart for their anti abortion stands) was not entirely for intelligent reasons. McCain was softer on immigration and gained my admiration compared to rudi and romney and he was/is an american hero. that was a subjective support, it doesnt mean he would be a better president than those other two OK
obama wan my heart with some of his speeches and of course his skin color. but i fell for him when j.edwards(whom i really liked since '04 endorsed him)
Not every American or person seens Obama and Edwards in the same light as you do. And certainly not everyone takes all this as seriously as you seem to.
if i were an american citizen, by now i would still be undecided between McCain and Barrak. but all these are subjective based support. there is no real evidence of who will be the best president among these people and i know it.
Glad you confess that you are just as subjective as those who you claim will be wooed by this caricature.
i'm too old and intelligent to be decieved by rhetorics. i know when these dudes get to the oval office things will be different from what they are saying
point is,(i know you have a problem understanding points) that voters are subjective does not mean they are not intelligent. it simply means they are using their heart and not their brains. i'm not calling american voters dumb. abeg.
But dude… this is not a point at all. We all know humans, be they voters or non voters can be both subjective and objective. That has nothing to do with this election and certain that should not change cause of the elections. I am still relating it all to this topic. I find this funny cause being objective, I realize this is part of the game and so have no need to make a big deal of this, more than I would if it was McCain, Bob Barr, Clinton or anyone else out there depicted in such a manner. Even the Pope has been targeted in recent times in such a manner. Nothing racist or to do with Obama’s skin color; in fact it had more to do with the fact that he is running for presidency if you ask me. I doubt the average Americans are going “woohoo!!! This cartoons CONFIRMS my greatest fears” …ROFLMAO!!! I can just imagine some hillbilly somewhere saying that right now … ROFLMAO!! , For those who are not aware… there are hillbillies of every color out there. |
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toshmann (m)
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@kobo
that was in reply to your post #40 in this topic which seemed to me to suggest that you believe i was looking down on the intelligence of american voters. so i decided to show you that when i say american voters are subjective i was not trying to say they are dumb.
and even went a step ahead to show that i too can be subjective
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KarmaMod (f)
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the flag is underneath the picture of Osama.
Not the first time Obama has been linked to his Is'lamic heritage.
Michelle here might be a black panther or something. I think one of their slogans was " Power to the People". Black Panthers also have links to Is'lam.
The flag burning is typical Iran rhetoric.
I am aware of all that. Just saying that it's not issue of his "race" that should be bothering those bothered by the cover but the fact that the cover is trying to imply that Obama is someone who would find flag burning (A HUGE offence here) as something "cool" hence the fist pumping with his wife |
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Kobojunkie
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@kobo
that was in reply to your post #40 in this topic which seemed to me to suggest that you believe i was looking down on the intelligence of american voters. so i decided to show you that when i say american voters are subjective i was not trying to say they are dumb.
and even went a step ahead to show that i too can be subjective
Ok, so if you, knowing that you can be subjective are able to see this for what it is. Why not accept that other subjective beings be allowed to see this whichever way they choose. Why not see that this caricature is meant to be interpreted as the subjective mind chooses to. Just cause you take it seriously does not mean we all should. I take it as nothing more than a caricature, and this is coming from someone whom you assume to be ANTI-OBAMA. Now If an Obamaian takes it seriously, do you really think the Anti-Obamaians are the problems here?? |
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edition (f)
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I am aware of all that. Just saying that it's not issue of his "race" that should be bothering those bothered by the cover but the fact that the cover is trying to imply that Obama is someone who would flag burning (A HUGE offence here) as something "cool" hence the fist pumping with his wife
very true. |
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toshmann (m)
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kobo i have a right to free speech. i'm also subjective. i was enraged when people made a fuss at McCains military record (general wes clark) if calling you obama hater annoyed you, i hereby withdraw the statement. i remember calling wes clark a hater too.but to me, this is not funny. and you sure don't expect me to smile when i see someone sayinf it is so funny. well, you have a right to laugh. after all, mad men can laugh too. but don't mess with my right to speak out against it. being subjective, i may sometimes get overboard. i'm not perfect after all, once again i withdraw the anti-obama tag i put on you(though i still believe you like the tag) |
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Orimili (m)
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It's clearly satire, and nothing more. It's a play on Fox News' portrayal of Obama and family. Anybody who reads the New Yorker knows this clearly. Sometimes, people take things too seriously.
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mazaje (m)
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This is just another cheap shot weather it is parody or not,(but i thought the new yorker was a left wing magazine?)
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Orimili (m)
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This is just another cheap shot weather it is parody or not,(but i thought the new yorker was a left wing magazine?)
It is, actually. They do satire all the time, so this coming from them is not really news to me. It's actually pretty funny, considering the connection it makes to how the media (especially Fox News) treats Obama and his family. As usual, however, people are going to get overly offended by everything they see. I can't stand political correctness at all, as people choose to whine about everything hurting their feelings these days. |
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Kobojunkie
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This is just another cheap shot weather it is parody or not,(but i thought the new yorker was a left wing magazine?)
That is the other side of the Joke. Makes it even funnier. ROFLMAO!! |
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KarmaMod (f)
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It is left wing. Most of the readers will get the joke but seeing that the NewYorker isnt loved by many thus most don't get the usul irony of their publication, they are just going to go based on the cover.
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Queenisha
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The so called satire or whatever they choose to call it was in poor taste.
Why would they have my obama dressed like Osama bin ladin when they know how sensitive Americans are to the "Muslim Issues"
I pray this doesn't cost him the presidency.Already McCain has closed in tremendously at the polls.
Frankly,I'm disgusted by the NYorker cover.
His father was a Muslim.He is not a Muslim, yet they wont let this issue die.
What control does a man have over his dead father's religion?
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omoge (f)
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my sister don't mind this hamburger helper people when no chop belefu. whether na metaphor, irony abi satire let everyone with red blood rejects it. i don't know why anyone would chose McBeer to Obama.
Someone should please tell dolly to quit walking ahead of McBeernisha, how u dey sef i don dey look for u and joy biko. |
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Orimili (m)
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This is funny. The New Yorker puts out satire crazier than this on a regular basis. However, as soon as Obama shows up on the cover, everybody wants to cry and scream about it. Get over yourselves, it's just a picture.
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