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nferyn (m)
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Seun, your posts make me laugh. You question like a lost child.
Typical, if you don't have an adequate response, just delve up an ad hominem. Why not open your bible and ask it this questions so it will answer you ,
You won't find many answers there, only more confusion, unless of course you put your brain in limbo (excuse me my Catholic lingo  ) rather than this-credit the creator and put yourself into un-necessary trouble.
Give some solid evidence for the existence of that creator, before you presuppose his existence. You're babbling. Same goes for K2.(i know who u are)  Scare tactics? I wonder if it's any better than the usual lying for Jesus(tm) |
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Viper (m)
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Typical, if you don't have an adequate response, just delve up an ad hominem. You won't find many answers there, only more confusion, unless of course you put your brain in limbo (excuse me my Catholic lingo ) Give some solid evidence for the existence of that creator, before you presuppose his existence. You're babbling. Scare tactics? I wonder if it's any better than the usual lying for Jesus(tm)I don't need to scare you. It's your life to decide, lol , do what you like with it. I should give you evidence that God exists?  Give me an evidence that you dreamt, or of what you dreamt about last night or that humans dream? Definitely, the bible will cloud itself fromyou when you read it to find faults.God is not beggin you anymore go and read revelation 22 properly. if you like, be with him, if you like, be against him, that is your cup of cappuchino. |
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Seun (m)
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This is a discussion forum. If you don't want to discuss the issue at hand, don't post!
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Viper (m)
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This is a discussion forum. If you don't want to discuss the issue at hand, don't post!
Boy, I am discussing, but with questions. |
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wasty (f)
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we create evil by our self with all kind of sins that we are making
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Bobbyaf (m)
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Put it this way, can anything exist outside of God's knowledge? The answer is obviously no, and that would include evil. God was aware of the potential and extent of evil, but His angels and other intelligent creation weren't.
Does this mean that God created evil in the manner in which we are thinking, based on our limited knowledge of how evil or sin operates? The answer is no. God didn't create evil in the sense that He is responsible for all we are seeing now in terms of effects.
When God created the universe there was no evil in substance, or in practice, but only in potential. The potential of it could have only manifested based on His creatures' choice, or free will. With God knowing all these variables, He laid out the necessary means to protect His creation from sin and evil through a system built on love and justice, long before such creation of life ocurred, be they angels, other intelligent creation, or humans. As a result God made available a choice to obey or disobey, hence His intelligent creation had to be aware of the potential of evil that could only have manifested through selfishness.
So the onous would now rests with His creation not to make the wrong choices. It so happened that one such angel challenged the system, and decieved 1/3 of God's angels to rebell. The chief ringleader who was called Lucifer, was responsible in testing the first human couple into falling for the same deception he invented in heaven. It is he who is still decieving many in the world today, through his army of demons.
God since that time has been pleading to His creation to stay on the side of justice and love, and to resist pride and selfishness. In the fulness of time His Son came as a sacrifice to save those who would accept His father's plan to restore love, righteousness and justice.
God didn't force us to sin, so He cannot be blamed.
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MIZIEYA
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[b][/b]Absolutely agree: it is interesting that christians ignore what their own 'holy book' states. If one examines Isaiah 45:5-7, the reader comes across a 'god' disclosure that states god is the creator of good and evil. [font=apple chancery Unicode][/font]
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BUSHFELLOW (m)
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CALL ME AND I WILL TELL YOU WHO CREATED EVIL BUT PROMISE ME ONE THING YOU WONT TELL GOD THAT I LEAKED HEAVENLY SECRETE TO YOU. PROMISE.  |
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MIZIEYA
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Bobby:- your premise is quite mistaken: to assume that god is not fallible is to rewrite the whole bible - which christians do in any case- look no further than the myriad biblical versions available in this era.
God couldn't find adam and eve and had to question them. God didn't know in Kings that a new king had been appointed, god really isn't up to date on a lot of things, this includes fashion,
Bear in mind that Judaism borrowed most of its religious philosophies from other cultures: Sumer, Egypt, Caanan, Zoroastra- the latter being the knowledge base where the concept of 'satan' was borne but lateer changed to a more meaningful version of the 'satan' christians and muslims bandy about.
I do advise a more knowledgeable based premise to make a stand upon as well as perhaps not using rhetoric and speculation to make a point: basically god is silent on all matters: god requires human intervention in all things- from humans declaring gods daily thoughts to humans declaring what god says regarding our every day habits - you may notice that people who quote god can never once practice what they preach,
Bring back Elijah and co
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MIZIEYA
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Bushfellow, but will your ground breaking news also lead to the disclosure of the Ambrosia you-know-who was drinking whilst creating evil??
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