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KikiDixy (f)
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Sex and the city, and it shouldnt even be compared since Girlfriends is a 30 minute sitcom,while Sex is like a series or something.
I don't like Girlfriends at all, too fluffy and not very funny IMO
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AKOOKO
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girlfriends the best
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kadman (m)
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To clear the air Sex & The City ran from 1998 - 2004, Girlfriends ran from 2000 - 2006. So if there was any rip off it was Girlfriends ripping Sex & The City off.
There is no comparism Sex & The City was the better show,wow it had everything and touched every single thing a woman could face,it's been called the woman's bible. The show was and icon- it helped women equality,it changed the way women talked,things they could say,and the way wowen all over the world viwed things. And that's why the show is still relavant today,and the movie has made over $180,000,000 in just a month after realease.
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tpia
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To clear the air Sex & The City ran from 1998 - 2004, Girlfriends ran from 2000 - 2006. So if there was any rip off it was Girlfriends ripping Sex & The City off.
There is no comparism Sex & The City was the better show,wow it had everything and touched every single thing a woman could face,it's been called the woman's bible. The show was and icon- it helped women equality,it changed the way women talked,things they could say,and the way wowen all over the world viwed things. And that's why the show is still relavant today,and the movie has made over $180,000,000 in just a month after realease.
um, you're imagining stuff here. SATC did not help women's equality or do any of the things you're claiming. Its more a reflection of some women's lifestyles, and not a "force for social change" like you seem to think. Women's lib preceeded SATC, plz. though I don't know- maybe the show did all those things in your area? SATC did not touch every single thing a woman could face. For one, I got to thinking critically about this show after I saw someone comment about how none of those ladies ever got an STD, in spite of their sexually liberated lifestyle. How is it possible for a woman to have that many lovers and yet never even once get a disease from any of them? Just a tiny observation, but I did see the point there. In Girlfriends, at least Toni got chlamydia when she two timed her boyfriend. Actions do have consequences most times. That seemed more realistic to me. In any case, its just about which show people can relate to, more or less.
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kadman (m)
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um, you're imagining stuff here. SATC did not help women's equality or do any of the things you're claiming. Its more a reflection of some women's lifestyles, and not a "force for social change" like you seem to think. Women's lib preceeded SATC, plz.
though I don't know- maybe the show did all those things in your area?
SATC did not touch every single thing a woman could face. For one, I got to thinking critically about this show after I saw someone comment about how none of those ladies ever got an STD, in spite of their sexually liberated lifestyle. How is it possible for a woman to have that many lovers and yet never even once get a disease from any of them? Just a tiny observation, but I did see the point there.
In Girlfriends, at least Toni got chlamydia when she two timed her boyfriend. Actions do have consequences most times. That seemed more realistic to me.
In any case, its just about which show people can relate to, more or less.
Nothing can touch EVERY single woman / person. But Sex & The City did touch the majority of women,hence my earlier statment. I still believe it "helped" women eqaulity. I did not say it started it. The show got to women all over the world allowing them freedom to more lifestyle choices, That is why there is refrence to the show in popular culture - most chick lit,chick flicks and songs. The only way you might not have noticed the impact of this show is if you life in Darfur ?? And FYI - Samantha did get an STD,and when she got cancer,she blamed it on her lifestyle, What could be more real than that ?
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chiogo (f)
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@Kadman, how do u know Sex and the city touched and helped women all over the world? You're not even a woman and even if you are, you can't say that because you can't speak for all women in the world. Sex and the City did absolutely nothing for me, honestly. But the show is aiight, nothing spectacular about it.
@topic, I prefer 'girlfriends' not because they act better or anything. I guess it's because it's shown on BET which I usually watch. I also like the women in 'girlfriends' better.
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doyin13 (m)
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Sex and the City abeg. . . , . . . . It sure touched my life. . , .A lot of skin to inspire the ''down below'' Bloody Girlfriends was too prudish 
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Chi*Babe (f)
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I like sex in the city waaaaaaaay better. i love my Black sisters and all, but that show is not well planned to me. nor is it funny, and to be hoenst some of the episodes are lame. I can remember each and every episode and title name of a sex in the city show though, for real. plus i love the graphic nudity, hahahha 
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TOH (f)
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u SATC did not touch every single thing a woman could face. For one, I got to thinking critically about this show after I saw someone comment about how none of those ladies ever got an STD, in spite of their sexually liberated lifestyle. How is it possible for a woman to have that many lovers and yet never even once get a disease from any of them? Just a tiny observation, but I did see the point there.
In Girlfriends, at least Toni got chlamydia when she two timed her boyfriend. Actions do have consequences most times. That seemed more realistic to me.
I don't think you've watched SATC, tpia In Season 4 I believe it was, there's a hilarious episode where Miranda realizes she had Chlamydia and this came out when she was with her new boyfriend Steve. This episode dealt with the issue of this way better than Girlfriends did because it showed Miranda calling just about EVERYONE she has slept with in her life to warn them plus it went in depth about how chlamydia doesnt just appear the next day but it can actually stay dormant, whole thing almsot seemed like a health program to educate people on the disease and not like some "oh you cheated on your boyfriend so she deserved this" preaching Charlotte also got crabs from a womanizer boyfriend as well. They also constantly talked about taking STD tests regularly. Lynn from Girlfriends slept with just about everyone yet I never heard about her protecting or getting anything GF is a cool show and I thought it was pretty funny for the most part but I wouldnt say it's a show the was universally relatable. They focused way too much on race, I've always hated that. How do you expect people of other races to relate to a show constantly reminding you of 4 "single strong black women" that need "strong black kings" in their life. Abegi. Plus they don't take most issues seriously, rather turn it into ghetto jokes. Plus the episode that had to do with one of Joan's past friends having AIDs was embarrassing.
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Chi*Babe (f)
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TOH i completely agree with you, and i remember those episodes of SATC very well. Also, i was ALWAYS embarrassed while watching GF because they did have alot of stereotypes about black people that i myself could not relate to, and im black. I can't relate to any of those womens lives on GF even though they have a "strong black bond", but i could seriously compare myself to Carrie, Charlotte, and Samantha. ( Miranda is a complaining, nagging prude, and im NOTHING like her). Cuz most of the episodes related to actual things that happened in my own life, with my own clique
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tpia
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I watched SATC up until the episode where Samantha was freaking out about her manolo blahnik shoes. And also the episode where Charlotte (the brunette?) was thinking about adoption. The Samantha episode in particular I found rather meaningless and annoying. I also don't like mr Big. So the question is : who got the STDs first- the SATC crew or the Girlfriends cast. Since they're obviously borrowing ideas from each other somehow. Hopefully the shows havent turned into a black vs white competition, because its really not that way at all. I like the cast of Girlfriends because even though they're AA, the characters in real life have a general background that most black people should be familiar with. In real life, Toni and Maya are black ( not mixed). Joan is biracial- white dad, black mom (Diana Ross).Lynn is biracial - white mom, black carribean dad. There was an episode as well where Maya referred to her cousin Ibe from Nigeria. She said it as a joke (she meant Ebay), but the reference was interesting all the same. besides, I've always felt Toni's story sort of mirrors Tracy(Joan's)'s background. The AIDs episode was embarrassing in what way? It touched on downlow black males, the AIDs epidemic which is higher among blacks, and so on. I didnt find it embarassing. Painful maybe. There's a difference between the number of men Lynn says she sleeps with, and the actual number of men we see her with in the show. Maya's reconciliation with Darnell was extremely touching. Toni's wedding was beautiful. So many other moments like that. kadman is male? 
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Chi*Babe (f)
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Tpia, i hear you about Mr. Big. He's one of those guys who treat u like nothing and stand you up once-, and you never call him back. but Carrie somehow got sprung. I didnt see why she ws so attracted to him. And in the movie that stunt he pulled by ditching her at the wedding? i wouldnt have married him if he wasnt sure. Carrie's ass jumped right in!
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TOH (f)
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TOH i completely agree with you, and i remember those episodes of SATC very well. Also, i was ALWAYS embarrassed while watching GF because they did have alot of stereotypes about black people that i myself could not relate to, and im black. I can't relate to any of those womens lives on GF even though they have a "strong black bond", but i could seriously compare myself to Carrie, Charlotte, and Samantha. ( Miranda is a complaining, nagging prude, and im NOTHING like her). Cuz most of the episodes related to actual things that happened in my own life, with my own clique
Lol I'm alot like Charlotte but I definitely have a Miranda side. Oh I also have a carrie side too. Now Samnatha is fun to watch from the outside lol but I'm definitely not like her esp in her behavior towards relationships. She did however have way better taste in men than Miranda. Miranda is just very real, she's not corny, she nags but whatever I can deal and she has a great sense of humor, plus she's very sarcastic which I am. I love Carrie but I REALLY hated her when she cheated on Aidan. Gosh Aiden is like the most perfect man ever made. Lol took me foever to get over that shit. hahhahha. Just couldnt believe she would do that to him for someone like BIG that couldntb commit to her but had no problem jumping to Paris and marrying a model. Abegi! Lets not forget Aiden took her back and she still messed up! No way in hell I'D do anything against someone like Aiden. That whole mess was ridiculous. Big's a jackass.
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TOH (f)
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Tpia. Carrie's the one who freaks for Monolos, not Samantha. If you're talking about the one where she loses her monolos at a baby shower. That one was hilarious! and I loved the message too.
Just because Lynn and Joanne are biracial, that doesnt mean the show was universal. It still just pandered to a black audience.I can assure you they say "strong black woman" at leats ONCE in every episode. Like we don't have the bloody eyes to see they are black. Do me a favor and compare Lynn of Season 1 to Lynn of now. You'D notice that she's completely 100% LIGHTER now than she was when the show first started. You'D think for a bunch of women who have to scream that they are "proud to be black", one of them wouldnt try so hard to look white. Also Did you ever notice that anytime a white person happened to be on the show, they made the person seem like an idiot? Lynn's mom = mental issues. Toni's husband = short insecure dork and the constant jokes on him for being white and jewish. when i remember the others Ill tell you but seriously I noticed alot of that nonsense.
Personally I think they made them get a divorce to prove that white people are obsessed with divorcing over stupid shit and that Toni would have been better off with a black man. It might seem extreme to you but I wouldnt put it past them. Yes Maya got a divorce too but Darnell didnt just leave her alone like Todd did like they had to prove a point "oh black people arent the only ones to abandon their women"
I found the Aids episode embarrassing because of how it was written for the msot part. Yes it helped in going into the whole "down low" of the black community, just the way they had them behave around her was embarrassing. Toni and Maya behaving like ignorant cows wasnt surprising because we both know those two are ignorant however I expected better from Joan who is a lawyer and Lynn who claims to be an enlightened free spirit. Running away because she cut herself? Embarrassing. As a lawyer has she never had a client with Aids? Is that how she would behave if they injuried themselves? Terrible.
SATC was on air before GF so most stories comes from SATC. Lynn is OBVIOUSLY supposed to be the "black" version of Samantha. Since the show is MAINLY about Joan, of course they wont show all of Lynn's partners. We just get to hear about them. You'D think they'D have her tell a story of a time of her getting at least ONE STI from the whole encounter.
SATC have alot of lovely moments too
Samantha getting AND beating cancer, the episode where she starts losing her hair? heartbreaking. Then her boyfriend shaving his famous hair style to make her feel like she wasnt alone in it? Lovely. Charlotte (the fact that someone as posh as Charlotte would even marry Harry said alot) and Miranda's wedding was great too. esp Miranda who yelled for a beige wedding dress because she had a kid already. Lol something I've always whined about as well. How do you hold you baby in your hand or have a visible baby bump and have the audacity to wear a white gown. Abegi. I can go on and on, I like GFs because it's humorous at times although alot of the ghetto jokes had to be explained to me by others but in the case of GOOD WRITING, SATC is miles ahead.
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kadman (m)
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@ tpia , Yes,I'm male & i watch the show,get over it.
Regarding the STDs Miranda was the first to get it,season 2 - That was 1999. Before Girlfriends even started. It annoys me that anyone could evencompare the two shows. Sex & The city was a classic,Girlfriends was nowhwere in it's leauge. And i watched both
@ TOH,thanks for the corrections, Now that's someone who actually watched both shows,and can honestly compare.
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TOH (f)
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nice siggy kadman 
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tpia
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we'll just have to agree to disagree here. yeah, I meant Carrie, not Samantha. Sorry about the mix up. carrie was the one tripping over a pair of shoes. I found it so annoying. Lynn is biracial both in real life and in the movie. Her movie mom did turn out to be bipolar. However, that's some people's experiences in real life. And her "whiteness' is her personal problem, in my opinion. Her real life daughter is white anyway. @ TOH, in your first post about the STDs, you said Miranda got it in season 4? your post: In Season 4 I believe it was, there's a hilarious episode where Miranda realizes she had Chlamydia and this came out when she was with her new boyfriend Steve. This episode dealt with the issue of this way better than Girlfriends did because it showed Miranda calling just about EVERYONE she has slept with in her life to warn them plus it went in depth about how chlamydia doesnt just appear the next day but it can actually stay dormant, whole thing almsot seemed like a health program to educate people on the disease and not like some "oh you cheated on your boyfriend so she deserved this" preaching Her and Toni's STD situation may be quite different. I'm not familiar with Miranda's chlamydia , but in Toni's case, she was cheating on her broke boyfriend with the millionaire lover. That was the storyline, and it fitted quite well with her shallow character. At least she came to her senses after she lost both men, and the broke one set her up as well. The AIDS episode, unfortunately showed how people can react in real life, if someone around them has AIDS. Yes, it happens. The divorces, etc etc, arent unusual in the US. People do get divorced for the flimsiest reasons. Not necessarily based on race. Pandering to a black audience also isnt unusual in the US. That's the general setup there. There are white shows for white audiences, and black shows for black audiences. People are free to choose which ones they want to watch. Black shows featuring whites in a generally negative light is nothing new, just like white shows featuring blacks as a bunch of maids, drivers, armed robbers and layabouts, also used to be the norm. I don't lose sleep over it. it doesnt happen that often anyway. Lynn's adoptive white parents (and siblings) were very supportive of her and did all they could to raise her well, so not all the whites in Girlfriends had a negative connotation. Anyway, lets agree to disagree. Its just tv, nothing more. @ kadman- I don't have a problem with you watching whatever you want to watch oh. Wetin be my own.  I was surprised by your fervency over SATC and women's rights, thats all. I thought you were a woman. am out.
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TOH (f)
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we'll just have to agree to disagree here.
yeah, I meant Carrie, not Samantha. Sorry about the mix up. carrie was the one tripping over a pair of shoes. I found it so annoying.
Lynn is biracial both in real life and in the movie. Her movie mom did turn out to be bipolar. However, that's some people's experiences in real life. And her "whiteness' is her personal problem, in my opinion. Her real life daughter is white anyway.
@ TOH, in your first post about the STDs, you said Miranda got it in season 4?
your post:
Her and Toni's STD situation may be quite different. I'm not familiar with Miranda's chlamydia , but in Toni's case, she was cheating on her broke boyfriend with the millionaire lover. That was the storyline, and it fitted quite well with her shallow character. At least she came to her senses after she lost both men, and the broke one set her up as well.
The AIDS episode, unfortunately showed how people can react in real life, if someone around them has AIDS. Yes, it happens.
The divorces, etc etc, arent unusual in the US. People do get divorced for the flimsiest reasons. Not necessarily based on race.
Pandering to a black audience also isnt unusual in the US. That's the general setup there. There are white shows for white audiences, and black shows for black audiences. People are free to choose which ones they want to watch.
Anyway, lets agree to disagree. Its just tv, nothing more.
Lol tpia, if you went to a friend's house for a party and they made you take off your $500 shoes, I bet you'D be freaking out too esp if the host is a bitch and tells you to "get over it".  That's what I meant with the Toni having STDs story line, they made it seem like it was karma for cheating on her boyfriend, and not like it's something that can happen to anyone even if you are "good". In other words, too preachy for my liking Pandering to a certain race isnt unusual but I still don't like it. Like I said there are reasons why SATC is more popular aned one of them includes the fact that anyone can watch it and feel at home andf not feel weird for not understanding street lingo or being being to relate to being a "black and strong woman" But seriously do me a favor and compare Lynn of Season 1 of GFs to her now. The difference is quite disturbing But yes we shall agree to disagree I guess. 
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tpia
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yes, people have been commenting on Lynn's skin color. It isnt the first time I'm hearing it.
She's either lightening her skin, or else they're using different lighting that makes her appear whiter. it could also be her makeup.
I did notice she seems to be losing weight. Sometimes she just appears stick thin. Coincidentally, that's also when she looks lighter. I don't really know whats going on with her. She could also be sick/anemic, who knows.
people preferring Girlfriends to SATC doesnt mean SATC isnt good. And people disliking Girlfriends also doesnt mean its not a great show. Everyone just has their individual preferences, thats all.
Not all the characters speak street lingo though. I think thats mainly Maya and Darnell. The rest are educated, upwardly mobile professionals, and they speak "white" English most of the time.
Sometimes the strong black woman talk is just hot air. I can't even remember the last time anyone said it, on the show. I hear more of that in Tyler Perry movies, than on Girlfriends.
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