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AMAKAONE (f)
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Honestly guys, what do you think the possibility is of setting up something like Bangladesh’s Grameen Bank in Nigeria? Given the dynamics back home do you think it is viable? Is it something the people would buy into? I really believe that this would make the people so much less dependent on those corrupt individuals we call government and empower them to take charge of their lives and do some things for themselves. I think only once people feel empowered can they start questioning the status quo? 
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Seun (m)
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There's one way to contribute to development. Start a business.
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lucabrasi (m)
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well,the good thing about micro finance is the flexibility in start up funding,i know there is legislation in place for micro finance bank so i reckon that will cover setting up a small to medium micro finance outfit,but i guss once you have a properly registered limited liability company and have your lawyer ivolved every step of the way and fully insured against any eventuality,it should be ok,an example is the local thrift collecting which has no safety net whatsoever but works on a continuous link kind of and thats with no legal backing,proper accounting e.t.c micro finance schemes s the key to poverty eradication,and it can only get better when the government discover how sucessful it is with the grass roots and get involved
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AMAKAONE (f)
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update.
just thought I'd give u guys an update I just got pics from home. our 1st water pump is almost finished.
thanks to all who gave me the courage to go ahead wit this project.
see pics attached
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subice (m)
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Well done. Good stuff.
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lucabrasi (m)
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thats really commendable,you guys wont realise the the impact that will befelt in the community untill you go there yourselves, plus it will challenge more developments and make their lives easier
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AMAKAONE (f)
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Thanks guys . We are hoping to put up a few of these around the village. The idea is that people should not have to walk miles for fresh water. My brother tells me that they have added a feature to this one that did not come with the initial spec from playpumps ( I guess SA People are not so concerned with waterborne infection?  ) . It's a filtration and ultra violet water disinfection unit that he got from "I know not where, but am glad he did".  He says it removes sediment, (all solids) pesticides, herbicides, chlorine, bad taste in the water and the ultrviolet light kills bacteria and viruses and it is solar powered so no need for PHCN abi na NEPA to get involved. This is the same unit he has at his own place (I think I posted pics of the house on Nairaland before) back home . I have to admit that was his idea, not mine sha. I just wanted to give my fellow villagers easier access to water without having to risk snake bites and whiplash from carrying water containers for distances through the village. I'm just terribly excited to see the project taking shape. And the people have taken complete ownership of this thing sha. The guys in the pics are local young guys who have completed their NYSC and have not got jobs yet so they are more than willing to help. I Just think this whole thing is totally cool.  Thank you once again to all of you who contributed to this thread ( yes, including the naysayers who said it could not be done). 
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idupaul
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@ Amakaone
well done, thats the what to go about things , i feel kind of happy bout ur iniative, cheers
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Amakaone, nice, but really, this year alone nigeria is said to have made about $90 billion in revenue. and an external reserve of $60 billion. Ask yourself what is the govt doing. one of the children of our big man claim she had one billion naira in the last one years, another governor is said to be sending money to lebanon.
if a nation have made $90 billion in a year, and $60 billion . and one of the child of the big made now in one year have 1 billion naira in account and a governor have million of dollar in lebanon, how do you expect nigerian abroad to make contribution to nigeria. when all they hear is govt officer are becoming rich.
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AMAKAONE (f)
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Amakaone, nice, but really, this year alone nigeria is said to have made about $90 billion in revenue. and an external reserve of $60 billion. Ask yourself what is the govt doing. one of the children of our big man claim she had one billion naira in the last one years, another governor is said to be sending money to lebanon.
if a nation have made $90 billion in a year, and $60 billion . and one of the child of the big made now in one year have 1 billion naira in account and a governor have million of dollar in lebanon, how do you expect nigerian abroad to make contribution to nigeria. when all they hear is govt officer are becoming rich.
Bros I know where you are coming from and I agree with you. But see, the thing for me and my siblings is that we don't know any governor or governors daughter. The people who are suffering are people we know and people we see and live with and among every time we go home. As far as i am concerned Karma is a b!t# and allthose robbing the poor people of Nigeria will get their own one day, but I will not sit back and watch my people suffer and say, " ahn ahn Gov so and so has millions of dollars in Lebanon, so you must manage unpurified water from the stream 1 km from your house" when there is something real and tangible that I can do to change the situation and make a difference in people's lives. You know I was listening to the radio yesterday and they were interviewing Zimbabwean people about their opinions on the new power sharing deal between Robert Mugabe and Morgan Tsvangirai. Do you know what most of their comments were? Things like " It's about time they stopped this mess, We don't care anymore we the people are hungry. Maybe now we will get some food in this country". and that was the gist of most of the comments. So I have to ask, what is the point of preaching lofty " Let's change the government" ideas to people who are starving, mothers whose babies are dying from cholera and dysentry before they reach age 1?" Do you really think in their current situation they will even listen to all those lofty ideas about which governor in Abuja is driving what model Maybach? It's about survival out there in the villages my friend. Once the people are able to stay alive, then they can be and will be more willing to be conscientised to those ideals that you and I share about rooting out graft and corruption, making Nigeria the great nation that she could etc. That is just my take on this situation.
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Kobojunkie
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You know I was listening to the radio yesterday and they were interviewing Zimbabwean people about their opinions on the new power sharing deal between Robert Mugabe and Morgan Tsvangirai. Do you know what most of their comments were?
Things like " It's about time they stopped this mess, We don't care anymore we the people are hungry. Maybe now we will get some food in this country". and that was the gist of most of the comments.
So I have to ask, what is the point of preaching lofty " Let's change the government" ideas to people who are starving, mothers whose babies are dying from cholera and dysentry before they reach age 1?"
Do you really think in their current situation they will even listen to all those lofty ideas about which governor in Abuja is driving what model Maybach?
It's about survival out there in the villages my friend.
Once the people are able to stay alive, then they can be and will be more willing to be conscientised to those ideals that you and I share about rooting out graft and corruption, making Nigeria the great nation that she could etc.
That is just my take on this situation.
because the only way we can get lasting change is when we suffer through what we have to today, so we can enjoy the rest of our days. I am sorry but deciding to settle for crap, because you are hungry is the reason the problem we have in Africa continues to persist. The “LET US GIVE THEM OUR SOULS FOR A LOAF OF BREAD” mentality is what we see today in Zimbabwe, Somalia, etc and these politicians understand that if they push the people enough, they can break them. That is what continues to happen. No Change, just the same old and nothing new. Please do not buy into that mediocrity mentality. Africa needs change, not settlement. Look at south Africa. Do you think that if those people compromised during apartheid, and thought it not worth loosing hundreds of lives in the process, that country would be where it is today, compared to other countries all over Africa? My people say, a hungry man is an angry man. If that man does not channel his anger in the right direction to get lasting change to his situation, but instead decides to compromise, what good would have come out of his experience?
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AMAKAONE (f)
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@Kobojunkie I do not disagree with you , but I still believe that
Once the people are able to stay alive, it is only then they can be and will be more willing to be conscientised to those ideals that you and I share about rooting out graft and corruption, making Nigeria the great nation that she could etc.
In addition to that I also believe that it is the responsibility of those of us who are able to move them even if ever so slightly from that position of wretchedness that they are now in that we will be able to start changing minds.
To use your South African example,
How many times did Nigerian school children do without, giving up their lunch monies so that the South African Struggle could succeed.
Did Thabo Mbeki not live in Nigeria?
Was Samora Machel , the Mozambican president not killed because he supported the ANC against the Afrikaner regime both in cash and kind?
Why then do we Nigerians who have by the grace of God escaped the quagmire that is Nigeria want to pay lip service to changing Nigeria, by engaging in endless dialogue?
The Grameen Bank in Bangladesh is a phenomenal success, lifting people out of abject poverty precisely because the people realised that they needed to stand up and do for themselves.
It is owned by the poor borrowers of the bank who are mostly women. It works exclusively for them. Borrowers of Grameen Bank at present own 95 per cent of the total equity of the bank. Remaining 5 per cent is owned by the government.
But even that project needed the sponsorship of the central bank of the country and support of the nationalized commercial banks before it could have the far reaching societal impact it has had in Bangladesh.
Mediocrity mentality in my book is sitting back and saying the government is doing nothing for us so we cannot do anything for ourselves.
The villages are teeming with healthy able bodied young men and women. Why can they not be roped in to put their own muscle into changing the future Nigeria that they and their children are going to be living in?
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Kobojunkie
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@Kobojunkie I do not disagree with you , but I still believe that
Once the people are able to stay alive, it is only then they can be and will be more willing to be conscientised to those ideals that you and I share about rooting out graft and corruption, making Nigeria the great nation that she could etc.
What good is their being alive if they only continue to leave suffering for their children as inheritance? Are you saying those who died in South Africa died in vain? Would South Africa be where it is today if those people had not chosen to die for the cause? In addition to that I also believe that it is the responsibility of those of us who are able to move them even if ever so slightly from that position of wretchedness that they are now in that we will be able to start changing minds.
Why then do we continue to pay government if at the end of the day we still have to do the job we already pay billions to get done each year? To use your South African example,
How many times did Nigerian school children do without, giving up their lunch monies so that the South African Struggle could succeed.
Did Thabo Mbeki not live in Nigeria?
What has this to do with what we are talking about here? Was Samora Machel , the Mozambican president not killed because he supported the ANC against the Afrikaner regime both in cash and kind? Again, what has the above to do with the questions we are dealing with now? Why then do we Nigerians who have by the grace of God escaped the quagmire that is Nigeria want to pay lip service to changing Nigeria, by engaging in endless dialogue? What is endless dialogue in trying to explain that if a man is not willing to die for a cause, then he might as well count that life he continues to sell for a piece of bread worthless? The Grameen Bank in Bangladesh is a phenomenal success, lifting people out of abject poverty precisely because the people realised that they needed to stand up and do for themselves.
It is owned by the poor borrowers of the bank who are mostly women. It works exclusively for them. Borrowers of Grameen Bank at present own 95 per cent of the total equity of the bank. Remaining 5 per cent is owned by the government.
But even that project needed the sponsorship of the central bank of the country and support of the nationalized commercial banks before it could have the far reaching societal impact it has had in Bangladesh.
Mediocrity mentality in my book is sitting back and saying the government is doing nothing for us so we cannot do anything for ourselves.
In many areas across that country, they have had similar programs as the one Grameen bank runs. There are lot of cooperative groups that put money together to help members run their business, raise money for expansions and so on. Just cause Grameen is suddenly global does not mean it is the first. Go to the markets all over that country and ask the meat sellers or the palm oil sellers how their groups helps and they may fill you in on what their group does for them. Unfortunately, even grameen can only go so far. Most of the stories we hear of are of people who have been able to use the money to do better for themselves but at the end of the day, many who live in poor areas are still without adequate water supply, electricity and good education. No, mediocrity means continuing to settle for less instead of demanding what you DESERVE. I don’t think building yet another well is the solution to the problem in that country. I can estimate that we have over 10 thousand wells in that country alone and continuing to settle for wells, has yet to solve the drinking water problem or the fact that we continue to pay the government billions of dollars to solve this problem once and for all but instead of demanding we get the service we continue to spend billions on, we would rather build for ourselves another well so we can be happy that we at least have some water for now. The villages are teeming with healthy able bodied young men and women. Why can they not be roped in to put their own muscle into changing the future Nigeria that they and their children are going to be living in?
Changing the future of Nigeria one hundred wells at a time? I mean we have been working at that for over 20 years now. If we take a number of the wells that have been dug in Nigeria alone in the past 20 years, I am sure they number in the hundreds of thousands and how come that has yet to solve the problem to date? Imagine the cost of each well. Add that to the total sum paid each year to the government to provide the people of Nigeria with water and then come back and tell me that building more wells is for a better tomorrow, instead of standing up to DEMAND the government deliver on the service it is being paid for or get lost? I am not trying to poopoo your attempts here but I am not impressed by these acts any more as I have seen thousands of these plans implemented, and yet I continue to see a country spiraling out of control; retrogressing, instead of progressing. If that is not a telling fact that the root of the issue needs to be dealt with once and for all, I don’t know what is.
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AMAKAONE (f)
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THe Samora Machel, Mbeki etc examples are cited to show that history has shown us that somebody who is not directly affected needs to intervene and help the people on the ground to get their aspirations met.
The South Africans did not do it alone.
I have to ask why should people die for a cause if there are other ways of solving the problem?
Are the Ogoni people better off since ken Saro Wiwa died fortheir cause?
If dying for a cause was the only solution, MEND would not be doing what they are doing in the Niger Delta right now. The people in the Delta have not got one shashi more out of the Naija Governemnt since Ken's death than they did while he was alive "DEMANDING" that the govt do right by those people.
This in spite of the hundreds of Delta youth who have died sabotaging pipelines, kidnappings, shootings and general loss of life that you seem to advocate, what has changed?
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Kobojunkie
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THe Samora Machel, Mbeki etc examples are cited to show that history has shown us that somebody who is not directly affected needs to intervene and help the people on the ground to get their aspirations met.
Are you sure that is what it shows? Mbeki was in Nigeria, you say, how come he is not the one hailed as the hero of the south African movement? Again, I ask, do you think that if the people on the ground were not willing to die for their cause, the help you believe they got from Nigeria would have helped in any way? The South Africans did not do it alone.
I have to ask why should people die for a cause if there are other ways of solving the problem? Dying for a cause essentially means going all the way to see your plans come to fruition and understanding that even if it means you may die along the way, it is worth it. If a man is constantly willing to settle along the way, he is most likely never going to achieve his goal and will continue to deal with that problem longer than he has to. Are the Ogoni people better off since ken Saro Wiwa died fortheir cause?
Are you sure they actually died for their cause? Ken Saro Wiwa died, are you sure his people continued to push for the goal or decided to accept less along the way? There are a couple of ogoni folks who live out here in Minnesota who got pay outs from the Shell settlement back some years ago. My point is, we know Ken Saro Wiwa himself died but the cause was not for him alone. Did the people left behind continue to push for the same? Or did they decide to settle? Answering this question will provide better answer to the above question. If dying for a cause was the only solution, MEND would not be doing what they are doing in the Niger Delta right now.
Again, Ken Saro Wiwa died for what he believed but did his people feel the cause was what dying for or not? If the people continue to elect and allow idiots into government, does that not speak volumes when it comes to where these people stand at this point?
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AMAKAONE (f)
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@ kobojunkie
Ok, clearly we see this situation from totally opposite sides.
Here’s what I’m hearing from you.
“What? Another water pump and well? Shuo! For what? All those people in government are wasting Nigeria’s money and you think keeping another 20 to 30 babies in your village and environs from dying from dysentery and cholera is some kind of achievement or that it’s helping Nigeria and the Nigerian people?
Me, I’m in Minnesota intellectualizing about the plight of Nigeria.
I made it out, Yeah I’m out. I beat all those idiots queuing out in front of the US Embassy waiting for Visas to get to where I am at.
And all those dead babies in all thos evillages you talk about, ok, so they will not make it to the great US of A, or the UK or Germany, hell they won't even make it to China and have unlimited access to the net and other stuff that I take for granted 'cause they will have died of childhood diseases that could have been curbed if only there was clean running water in their villages.
They won’t have all this mess, but hey it’s for the cause right? The cause is everything.
Forget basic needs (Maslow and all those guys were idiots)
Oh yeah, I can step out of my bed and straight into the shower, right after flushing the loo in my in house WC. That’s what I’m talking about.
*Smh*
Have these people forgotten about the Biafran war? Now that was people dying for a cause. Oh , Ok so the East is still part of Nigeria despite the great sacrifices and loss of life involved, and the roads are bad and there are no major state funded developments out there, but hey they compromised and settled. That’s why things did not work out for them. They should have held on and fought to the last man woman and child. Yeah, That’s what I’m talking about. If you believe in the cause enough no sacrifice is too great. You will go down in the annals of history.
Keep fighting. If death comes, you must believe it’s inevitable in the plight for THE CAUSE DAMMIT. That’s the way to do things.
Who cares if your village has over sixty graduates who have completed their NYSC and have no jobs? Don’t create them in your village. Fight the powers that be and ask them why they cannot provide jobs for your graduates. Hell they are spending millions of the country’s money on themselves; we should not be required to be self sufficient. Entrepreneurial spirit be damned. We have an elected government and pump billions of dollars worth of oil every day. We should not have to do anything ourselves. We should always look to the government to improve things for us and make our lives better. That’s Why we vote for them.
Look at me here in Minnesota, if I lose my job, I will go and apply for social security benefits. That’s your government doing something for you right there. Why should I do something for myself if no one wants to employ me? Hell I pay taxes; I am entitled to those food stamps and welfare.”
We will never see this ting in the same way my friend. Let’s agree to disagree.
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aisha2 (f)
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Amakaone, keep it up and forget about these talk and do nothing people on nairaland. I salute your courage and faith. I am also like you. Four months ago, i quit my wellpaying job to start a foundation in honor of my late mother, i had just N37,000 in my account. But it was time for me to move on and start do the will of God in my life. People said we couldnt make it but by the grace of God, in three months i have completed my target of three projects without external funding. Ideas not money rule the world. As a result of one of the football matches we organized between children in Orphanges and children in private schools, one of the children from the orphange is now training with the National Under 13 team. I finished my last project on sunday to the shame of many consultants who said we can't achieve anything without loads of money. I find so much joy and peace from looking at the smiling faces on the site, 60 % of the children who won our talent hunt show were from the orphanges. Check out our website: www.kidssummerblast.com. Keep the dream alive, one person can make a difference, as my mother says, even if you talk from today till 100 years and take no action your noise can lift a spoon, so with your little action you can make a difference.
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Kobojunkie
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@ kobojunkie
Ok, clearly we see this situation from totally opposite sides.
Here’s what I’m hearing from you.
“What? Another water pump and well? Shuo! For what? All those people in government are wasting Nigeria’s money and you think keeping another 20 to 30 babies in your village and environs from dying from dysentery and cholera is some kind of achievement or that it’s helping Nigeria and the Nigerian people? Hear is the situation here. I am sure I made myself clear on what I mean there. If you choose instead to read extra meanings into it, that is fine. I am used to people on here thinking that is the only way to win arguments or score brownie points. I am sure I made my point which is, instead of spending money on petty projects that are tomorrow no more, it is TIME to stand up and deal with situations ONCE AND FOR ALL. Me, I’m in Minnesota intellectualizing about the plight of Nigeria.
I made it out, Yeah I’m out. I beat all those idiots queuing out in front of the US Embassy waiting for Visas to get to where I am at.
And all those dead babies in all thos evillages you talk about, ok, so they will not make it to the great US of A, or the UK or Germany, hell they won't even make it to China and have unlimited access to the net and other stuff that I take for granted 'cause they will have died of childhood diseases that could have been curbed if only there was clean running water in their villages.
They won’t have all this mess, but hey it’s for the cause right? The cause is everything.
Forget basic needs (Maslow and all those guys were idiots)
Oh yeah, I can step out of my bed and straight into the shower, right after flushing the loo in my in house WC. That’s what I’m talking about.
*Smh*
Have these people forgotten about the Biafran war? Now that was people dying for a cause. Oh , Ok so the East is still part of Nigeria despite the great sacrifices and loss of life involved, and the roads are bad and there are no major state funded developments out there, but hey they compromised and settled. That’s why things did not work out for them. They should have held on and fought to the last man woman and child. Yeah, That’s what I’m talking about. If you believe in the cause enough no sacrifice is too great. You will go down in the annals of history.
Keep fighting. If death comes, you must believe it’s inevitable in the plight for THE CAUSE DAMMIT. That’s the way to do things.
Who cares if your village has over sixty graduates who have completed their NYSC and have no jobs? Don’t create them in your village. Fight the powers that be and ask them why they cannot provide jobs for your graduates.
I don’t believe it is the job of the government to provide people with jobs. Now, it is the job of government to provide a conducive environment for people and companies to thrive in. Hell they are spending millions of the country’s money on themselves; we should not be required to be self sufficient. Entrepreneurial spirit be damned. We have an elected government and pump billions of dollars worth of oil every day. We should not have to do anything ourselves. We should always look to the government to improve things for us and make our lives better. That’s Why we vote for them.
Look at me here in Minnesota, if I lose my job, I will go and apply for social security benefits. That’s your government doing something for you right there. Why should I do something for myself if no one wants to employ me? Hell I pay taxes; I am entitled to those food stamps and welfare.”
We will never see this ting in the same way my friend. Let’s agree to disagree.
I have no idea what point you are trying to make here. The fact remains, individual Nigerians have pumped BILLIONS of dollars into fixing Nigeria one well at a time for the past decade or so. individual Nigerians have pumped in BILLIONS of dollars into Scholarship and school programs to help individual Nigerians get education in Nigeria in the last 20 years or so and so on. What do we have today? Many dried up wells, many graduates with no jobs, many villages and towns with no water, bad roads and bad schools. What next? Pump more money in? Or learn that it is time to stand up and do the best thing. Get Government to start doing its job? I am not sure you understand what we have done so far. We have, over a period of 20 years proven that building wells, sending computers back to one school or another, making available scholarships to few students, rebuilding some roads does not work without active government involvement in the development process. World donations included, we are looking at almost 2 TRILLION dollars pumped into the continent of Africa alone and what do we have to show for it? NEXT TO NOTHING!! You can continue to build your wells or you can choose to say, look, this works only for a minute but in the end, we all need to confront the big DEVIL and only then will these small changes really make the most impact. If not, we will continue to pour money into buckets with lots of holes in them and expect MIRACLES to happen just cause we wish them to. In fact, in my opinion, you already have these people on your side. How about going a step further by petitioning the local government there to learn how they can help your effort and better make this last more than a year or two in this area? Get the people to sign it and send it and see it pushed through to the end. Before you run off thinking you are the only one involved in some effort to help people back in Nigeria, I have to tell you that I and a couple of my friends have been involved in various efforts over the years as well. We have come to the realization that we keep coming back to the same old issues and no matter what we worked on, there seemed to be more to do. That is why I believe it is time we focus more on going at the root of the problem instead of continuing to apply salve to the branches and pat ourselves in the back thinking we are the wiser for taking the approach we have on this.
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AMAKAONE (f)
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@kobojunkie As I said before we clearly have totally different views on this matter and we will not agree not today or any time in the future. I believe that the type of project like this helps to alleviate these types of situations: # In the past ten years, diarrhea has killed more children worldwide than all the people lost to armed conflict since World War II (Water Aid) # Twelve million people die each year from lack of safe drinking water, including more than 3 million who die from waterborne diseases (WHO) # Over 80% of the disease in developing countries is related to poor drinking water and sanitation (WHO) # 1.5 billion people in the world are suffering from parasite infections, which can cause malnutrition, anemia and delayed growth, due to the presence of solid human waste in the environment. Many of these infections could be controlled with improved hygiene, clean water and sanitation. These ( www.whrnet.org). # The average distance a woman in Africa and Asia walks to collect water is 6 km (3.75 miles) ( www.whrnet.org) # The weight of water that women in Asia and Africa carry on their heads is equivalent to the maximum baggage weight allowed by airlines – 20 kg, or 44lbs ( www.whrnet.org) # Women are the primary caretakers for those who fall ill from water-related diseases, reducing their time available for education and productive economic efforts ( http://www.unfpa.org) # One-third of women in Egypt walk more than an hour a day for water; in other parts of Africa, the task can consume as much as eight hours ( www.unfpa.org) # Medical research has documented cases of permanent damage to women’s health as a result of carrying water, such as chronic fatigue, spinal and pelvic deformities, and effects on reproductive health including spontaneous abortion ( http://www.unhabitat.org) # In some parts of Africa, women expend as much as 85% of their daily energy intake on getting water, increasing incidences of anemia and other health problems ( www.unhabitat.org)
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lucabrasi (m)
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here goes another political debate not leading anywhere, @poster in my humble opinion,ill suggest you focus on the essence of this thread and leave the political debates for professional armchair nigerian critics who live in comfort in the lands flowing with milk and honey and advocating for revolution,
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Kobojunkie
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@kobojunkie As I said before we clearly have totally different views on this matter and we will not agree not today or any time in the future. I believe that the type of project like this helps to alleviate these types of situations: # In the past ten years, diarrhea has killed more children worldwide than all the people lost to armed conflict since World War II (Water Aid) # Twelve million people die each year from lack of safe drinking water, including more than 3 million who die from waterborne diseases (WHO) # Over 80% of the disease in developing countries is related to poor drinking water and sanitation (WHO) # 1.5 billion people in the world are suffering from parasite infections, which can cause malnutrition, anemia and delayed growth, due to the presence of solid human waste in the environment. Many of these infections could be controlled with improved hygiene, clean water and sanitation. These ( www.whrnet.org). # The average distance a woman in Africa and Asia walks to collect water is 6 km (3.75 miles) ( www.whrnet.org) # The weight of water that women in Asia and Africa carry on their heads is equivalent to the maximum baggage weight allowed by airlines – 20 kg, or 44lbs ( www.whrnet.org) # Women are the primary caretakers for those who fall ill from water-related diseases, reducing their time available for education and productive economic efforts ( http://www.unfpa.org) # One-third of women in Egypt walk more than an hour a day for water; in other parts of Africa, the task can consume as much as eight hours ( www.unfpa.org) # Medical research has documented cases of permanent damage to women’s health as a result of carrying water, such as chronic fatigue, spinal and pelvic deformities, and effects on reproductive health including spontaneous abortion ( http://www.unhabitat.org) # In some parts of Africa, women expend as much as 85% of their daily energy intake on getting water, increasing incidences of anemia and other health problems ( www.unhabitat.org) Well, as long as you see that we do not all choose to see it the same way, that is fine by me. Only expressing the fact that if you really wanted a one time solution, we all know what we need to do to obtain that but are we willing to do that or just continue with the old expecting new? Anywho, if you are happy doing it the way you are now, that is all that matters. I do hope we get people soon who are willing to confront the main problems. Just as you are here seeking people to go at it your way, I am seeking people who are willing to go at it the other way.
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