The Biafra War-a Case Of Genocide Or Not?

rid yourself of hate so that you go live long

Mikeansy, I hope you saw this post by the moron Planner.

I seem not to be able to find your post condemning it. Probably I am losing my eyesight.

Or you think this was too full of love and he would live long? 

He does not know a thing about Biafra because he's black and a Nigerian, right? Or on what basis are you making this accusation?

Because earlier on someone was advocating Frederick Forsythe as the sole expert on Biafra. I guess Frederick is more reliable primarily because he's not black. Of course there were numerous non-Igbos who fought on the Biafran side during the war, but that doesnt matter now. No non-Igbo can know anything about the war, unless of course they're foreign.

Africans have a long way to go with their inferior mentality. Is it any wonder there's questionable progress most places you look.

of course it would be too much to expect you to admit your tribalist mindset against any black person who is not a Biafran.

I asked: were there no non-Igbo officers in the Biafran army?

Since you have a general accusation for any non-Igbo commenting on Biafran matters, which is: You know nothing about Biafra.  The only people in your own cosmos, who can be given some slack in such matters, would have to be foreigners, and even then, only foreigners who agree with whatever you're saying. eg Frederick Forsythe.

na today?

The Biafra story was suicidal. Ojukwu led millions to their death. He did not plan for the war but was only acting on emotions based on the pogroms.

The Igbos also caused the fall of Biafra because they refused to acknowledge and till now the existence of other non igbos in the defunct  Biafra. To the Igbo with the lowest mentality, the world begins and end in Igbo land and no other person is more intelligent than them.

That was the reason Isaac Adaka Boro who before the war was fighting the Niger Delta cause decided to join the Nigerian army to fight the Igbo's because of their warped view of non igbos.

Biafra is a dream country that will never come to fruition and even if it comes to fruition will suffer from geographical isolation and will eventually collapse.

The Igbos should use this time to mend their differences with their neighbours and stop making more enemies. they should know this from the fact that no body is willing to support any Igbo man for president.

To the people who treat Ojukwu as some sorta Messiah, they need to know he is no different, he suffers from megalomania like all so called Nigerian 'leaders' and I do believe his own interest are simply being veiled by some silly 'project Biafra' goal.

Bunch of hating ignorants!!

@tpia,

I was the guy that mention Fredrick Forsythe, not because of his skin colour but because he came and saw things for himself, he was an eye witness, while you if you were born then, depended solely on what Nigerian Bradcasting corporation (NBC) tells you from Ikoyi. You weren't there, you never witness a bomb explode in all your life, you never witness your own child die in your very eyes of starvation, and that is the different between your idea of the war and us.  It's called first hand experience.

That is why we can't stop talking about it, we can'y get tired of it and what many don't or will ever understand. The threatre of the war was right in front of our houses, markets, schools, farms, hospitals, churches and we saw with our very eyes, our beloved ones blown into pieces. Not something we heared on the wireless or saw on TV.  That is what formed different emotions between Nigerians and Biafrans about the civil war.

That is why the Yorubas had different emotion on June 12 more than anybody else because it was directed at them as a people because their own son was denied what was due for him and that is why reasonable Igbos like Ukiwe, Ndubuisi Kanu, Sam Mbakwe, Arthur Nwankwo etc stucked with NADECO during the struggle aganst the June 12 injustice, because they understand injustice in the face of people telling you to shut up and get over it. That was what the northerners especially were telling the Yorubas even till this day over June 12, to get over it and Yorubas will react instantly against such a suggestion because despite their son ruling for 8 years, still that injustice hurts.

The problem most Nigerians can't get over was that, despite all their instigations, innuendos about Ojukwu, Ndigbo still loves him and we know why and of which they will never understand. It's the sort of bond a mother has with her child of which outsider can't understand.  I will be the the first to admit that our own Ikemba is not the most skillful politician ever, but no Igboman living or dead will question Ojukwu's love for his people and we knew that. Mistakes were made but we understood the circumstances under which it was made and how many people in their 30s would have done better and we knew his sacrifices for us surpases his mistakes.

So those waiting for the day Igbos will sacrifice Ojukwu or humiliate him for them to be happy, will have to wait a little bit longer, because it's not going to happen soon.  Through out our history as a people, in my opinion we have ever had four trusted genuine people Igboman will call their leader- Michael Okpara, Akanu Ibiam, Sam Mbakwe and Emeka Ojukwu. Yes, I left out Azikiwe, because, he is a pan African leader, not an Igbo leader and he says so himself.
So get  use to Ojukwu been loved by Igbos, you can't cry more than the beareved.  The man is still alive enjoying himself and growing old gracefully, you can't find him looking for contracts, oil deals/wells or corrupt scandals, but he will still live like a king, that is what made a man and a leader.  Have you  ever heard his name associated with anything corruption or embezzelment of any sort? Never!! rather he sacrificed his inheritance for our very freedom, something quite foreign to Nigerian leaders.

LOL! That's rich, coming from someone who claims to come from a country that doesn't exist on any current map.



You're a retard, all right. Speaking my native language has nothing to do with my opinions and intelligence. I fail to see how any ability to speak my native language would aid me in this discussion. In fact, that should even reinforce my credentials as a thoroughly detribalised Nigerian.


I know enough about Igbo people to know that (thankfully) not all of them are an empty windbag like yourself. And considering that fact that i logged my NYSC in Abia State, i know a fair bit of the culture.

As far as you're concerned, anyone who does not see things your way is a 'hater'. That's simplistic logic at best.

Considering the fact that my only sister is married to an Igbo man, and my only nephew just happens to be Igbo, calling me a 'hater' is just plain silly. I take solace from the fact that retards and hotheads like you are powerless in the scheme of things to plunge this country into another maelstrom of war. All you will amount to is just another angry, stupid voice on a public forum.

Whether you are connectd to the igbo people makes no sense.  Somebody who is prejudiced will always be prejudiced. Afterall some minorities who are intense igbo haters have igbo ancestry. More so, what can you say about Adolf Hitler who have Jewish ancestry?

@Eziachi

I would say thank you. I really feel connected to the discussion because you explain issues with a lot of facts.

My dad was 17 when he enlisted. He was then in CKC Onitsha when they were addressed on the situation of things and he had to join the army. He said the younger ones that were not allowed to enlist were crying openely. They all wanted to fight.

The event that resulted to the war clearly indicated that Igbos would have faced a total annihilation had it not been for the fact that somebody stood up in the face of adversity and told them you mustn't run any more. You must fight for your life. Bodies were send down to the East in trucks, lorries and trailers. Army officers of the Igbo origin, I heard were all on the run let alone civilians.

Thank God! He gave us a messiah in Ojukwu. If not for him Igbos would have been annihilated and it will be a forgotten tribe because nobody will talk about it.

The fact remains that a dog never forgets the person that sheltered him during rainy season. Ojukwu sheltered us during our Tsunami. He can never be forgotten!

so tell me: were you yourself there personally, during the war? Or do you base your prejudice and warmongering on witness accounts, just like the people you're accusing?

You keep on villifying Nigerians, as if the Nigerians you know, are busy planning another pogrom to "kill all Igbos". Yet all this stuff is only in your mind. People are busy trying to make a living and hustling to make ends meet. Or trying to get visa abroad. Most times few people understand what you're talking about when you start your blame game. With the way you're going, your argument is starting to sound more like a nazi one, and not the other way round. The nazis were noted for arranging anything they accused others of, in order to get scapegoats.

The events of the 1960s are not the events of the 2000s. There was turmoil back then, and I asked before: what led to the pogroms in the north? (which you keep blaming Yorubas for, in some weird manner) Was it planned or premeditated, and if you don't look into the history behind the massacre, then you will never move beyond where you are now.


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Like I said before, my friend's parents told her about the war and how they watched her slowly starve as a baby.  What most people rely on today, are second hand accounts of the war. Just like no AA living today has ever been a slave, but a lot of them will still blame everything they experience on slavery.

Few of you people shouting here, actually witnessed the war yourselves. If you had, you'D be a lot more sober, and preach less hate all the time. Only someone who has not experienced firsthand the effects of war, would be running around drumming for battle. Like George Bush invading Iraq when he himself has never been in the army.

Its all about attitude, and the way you're presenting your claims. Besides, on that youtube site, the quote from radio kaduna sounds suspiciously like it was lifted from Rwanda accounts. but lets leave that one.


If you'D personally witnessed someone being blown to pieces, I assure you, your attitude would be different. You wouldnt be sounding happy about it, the way you do here. As if you're just after publicity. because that's the way I see it. I'm looking for signs that you actually feel some sorrow at the casualties and bloodshed, but I see none. All I'm noticing is people trying to use the war to edge themselves into a political arena.





Who are these Yorubas in your imagination, who are stuck on June 12 and not moving on with their lives?  Most people are busy looking for visa or else trying to hustle a living regardless where they are. Even here on Nairaland, which Yorubas do you see holding Nigeria to ransom over June 12? The election was annulled- not by Nigeria, but by the people in power at the time. Nigeria is not a person. We know who who annulled the election, and they also had support from other factions. The political pundits are the ones arranging things among themselves.


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Love whoever you want to love, but quit imagining others spend all their time wondering why.


Good for you.

If ojukwu so loved the Igbo race and the Igbos so love him why did they not vote for his political party he brought forth? On my part Ojukwu is only one of those opportunist who has nothing to offer. He fears to fight to the end and instead ran away. When he ran away who did he want to take the lead in this so call war of emancipation of Igbos? Was it not his 2IC? If his 2IC (late Lt. Col. Philip Effiong who is not an Igbo man) did not make the wise decidion of surrendering will there be some ego blinded Igbos today crying of marginalisation? I believe the Nigerian army would have completely wiped them off. The Ojukwu that so loved them ran away. Good Freedom fighters don't run away rather they retreat with their men and hold a small portion of the region while carrying out guerilla fighting until the time is ripe for them to launch a full scale offensive. Check the story of the LORD'S RESISTANCE ARMY IN Uganda.

Some one remarked that the people that did not join the Igbos in the war are paying dearly today. i would say that this is an understatement or a statement made out of ignorance. During the war the first sector to fall to nigeria was Nsukka, which was defended by the Igbos while the sector that was difficult for nigeria to capture up till the end of the war was the Ikot EKPENE, ABAK and Umuahia axis. why was this the case, because these sectors were defended by better soldiers who were not of Igbo extraction but were from the extraction of the 2IC to Ojukwu. The Igbos did nothing to regain their territories they lost during the war instead they ran to the minority territories and started genocide in order to take their land. How many times did Ikot Ekpene fall to Nigeria and was taken again by Biafrans who were from the region? Nsukka and Enugu fell once and was never retaken by the proud Igbos.

The Igbos should shut up and mind their business. I thought they will take a serioud stand for Biafra now that Niger Delta issue is on because this is the only time they can realise their Biafra dreams. Simply because the Nigerian forces will be have a duty to fight numerous fronts. No country can ever stand multiple internal crises. Look at former Zaire, Liberia  etc., the then goverment forces could not stand the various rebel groups. Instead of them doing that, they have abandoned their brother Ralph and even their God father Ojukwu is no longer infuriated to call for all Igbos to bear arms. Or are the arms in short supply? Where are the Niger Delta Militants having theirs from? The liberation of Niger Delta is a old cause and thesame means had been used and is still in use in order to realise their dreams. The Igbos have forgotten their Biafra and don't even care about it anymore, hence no action on their part to back Ralph. If Ralph cannot fight, are there no Igbos that can form a militant wing for Ralph? Is it all about hoisting flags?

My conclusion is that empty vessels make the most noise. THe Igbos should just keep quiet and follow Azikiwe who knew better that they should remain a part of Nigeria. He always advocated for One Nigeria. Time will tell about all this Igbo hullabaloo.

^^^The Ibos are already involved in the Niger-Delta conflict. They have expressed their support and we thank them for it.  They are watching the situation with keen interest, ready to capitalise on any advantage it may bring them. I am sure that if it turns to qwatar, they will take advantage of the situation as will the Tivs and other oppressed groups. Since everybody in Naija is scared of the Fulani's _{especially Mr Yoruba}, it is up to the Ijaw warrior to show y'all how it's done. 

Iseobio, take it easy. We know all this. The Ibos were the first to surrender their land during the war and the ethnic minorities of South-South kept the war going - but let bygones be bygones.

Don't you know that the Yorubas are the most coward tribe on earth, individually and as a group.

Abeg tell am for me. You see the way Abacha shut them down sharp sharp during June 12? - whilst little Ogoni was making waves, they couldn't even say pim. The fact is that Yoruba man is always scared to lose a drop of blood, that is why they are always begging for peace, even under severe oppression.