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bilymuse
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@ Eziachi
Ojukwu is a disgrace to the title, l think it should be taken away from him. He ran away at the last minute, if all the soldiers and civilians are to fled like him, where would you people ran to. Brave men laid down their lives and fight till the end.
Shagari regime pardone and bribed him to join NPN. Like a prostitute without shame he came back fighting for his own property in disregard to thousands of Ibo properties confiscated through the abandone property law. Married his grandaughter age mate, and flirt continuously with every regime in power. Formed a caricature political party whose presence is felt in less than three state. He does not belong in this present generation, he his suppose to be a father figure.
Ojukwu would have been revered and immortalise like a god if he had died in the biafra war, but he choose to be a coward and continue to be an irritant. Presently, his opinion count for nothing and nobody in Nigeria gives a damn about him, except few ignorant ibos who think his a hero for running away like a chicken, the guy is a disgrace.
No wonder he lost the war.
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Eziachi
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At that point in time if Your Ijaw leaders were killed by Ibo's and the govt did not do anything about it for 6 months despite that The perpetrators were known.
Would you be blamed for anytype of reprisals?
We have heard other part of Nigeria doing retaliatory attacks In Sagamu and in Onitsha for Killings in the North thats recently. Didny Ijaw OPC fight have reprisals attacks?
Ibime has made all your useless justification for killing of innocent people in the north useless. If you can tell us any conference Igbo nation had and then sent Nzeogwu to go and execute a coup, that will be appreciated. And name like Ademoyegun was part and parcel of the coup but we didn't see any reprisal on the Yoruba nationa because of the actions of their single son. Gideon Orka's coup was planned and financed by Great Ogboru from the old Bendel. Many of the foot soldiers of that coup was either from the old Bendel or Benue/Plateau. They nearly killed Babangida, they killed his ADC and so many loyal govt soldiers. And today Great Ogboru is still ALIVE and when he return from exile, he was given a hero's welcome and sure the tribe of Babangida's ADC and other dead soldiers saw the reception. According to your theory of reprisal, the tribes of the killed soldier like the ADC should head to Bendel and clear off every women and children to avenge the death of their son or Babangida who was lucky to be alive should send troops to Ogboru's tribe and that of Gideon Orkah. Who shot and killed Murtala Mohammed? Col Dimka and co conspirators has a tribe. Murtala is from Hausa tribe, why didn't Hausa go to Langtang where Dimka and the like of Bissala comes from for reprisal? You see, when blood tasty and people without conscience like you reasoned or justify their evil intentions, even a child can see their sadistic mindset. I will always wish anybody what he wishes others. |
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Eziachi
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@ Eziachi
Ojukwu is a disgrace to the title, l think it should be taken away from him. He ran away at the last minute, if all the soldiers and civilians are to fled like him, where would you people ran to. Brave men laid down their lives and fight till the end.
Shagari regime pardone and bribed him to join NPN. Like a prostitute without shame he came back fighting for his own property in disregard to thousands of Ibo properties confiscated through the abandone property law. Married his grandaughter age mate, and flirt continuously with every regime in power. Formed a caricature political party whose presence is felt in less than three state. He does not belong in this present generation, he his suppose to be a father figure.
Ojukwu would have been revered and immortalise like a god if he had died in the biafra war, but he choose to be a coward and continue to be an irritant. Presently, his opinion count for nothing and nobody in Nigeria gives a damn about him, except few ignorant ibos who think his a hero for running away like a chicken, the guy is a disgrace.
No wonder he lost the war.
@Bilymuse, I don't think your intereted in real issues , I think your obsession with Ojukwu is more or less personal and I don't want to interfere in your perosonal hobby or mindless obsession. Ojukwu is the only Igbo man living or dead that has been given a collective agreed title, then if in your mind our collective decision to give him the title of Ikemba is a disgrace, that is up to you, as you can mourn more than the beareved. Ikemba is a colossal and larger than life figure, that even his greatest enemies easily acknowledges that. So you just have to live with it and stop punishing yourself as his index finger is greater than the rest of you by a million fold. That is why you're so obssesive that you're worries on whom he marries or what happens in his bedroom department with his legal wife Bianca. sick!!! |
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Eziachi
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You forgot Eni Njoku was educated at Yabatech? I also heard his ascension as Unilag's first vice chancellor came as a result of the fact that he was conversant with the west and it's like he was dating a yoruba woman that time. All Eni Njoku knew during his brilliant career was the west. Did he work in ibo land for once? You wonder why ibos never honored a man that has 3 DSC's and wrote so many books used around the world. His name rings a bell in the academic community in UK ,US and other parts of the world.
@DeepZone, What is actaully your point? Eni Njoku is not Igbo but Yoruba because he was trained at YABATECH, is that your point? Where was he born? Where did he attend his primary and secondary school? You are actually educating me about not just my kinsman but my village/town's man, which I am finding so amusing. Nzeogwu was born in the north, lived all his life in the north and worked all his life in the north and his middle name was "Kaduna" a northern city to complement, his first spoken language as a person was Hausa, but you don't have qualms telling us every single minute that he is Igbo, whose crime the entire Igbo race deserved to be punished, but you are desperate to make another Igbo son (Prof Eni Njoku) you seems to admire a Yoruba which is not a problem for me if you are that desperate. Azikiwe was born in the north, early eduation in the north, further education in the United State, never worked in Igboland, so according to your theory, which one is Azikiwe? a northern or an American? This must be interesting to know. |
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bilymuse
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Ikemba is a colossal and larger than life figure, that even his greatest enemies easily acknowledges that. So you just have to live with it and stop punishing yourself as his index finger is greater than the rest of you by a million fold. That is why you're so obssesive that you're worries on whom he marries or what happens in his bedroom department with his legal wife Bianca. sick!!! the greatest harm a man can do to himself is to lie to himself, and that is the problem with some of you guys thinking Ikemba is a hero sometime ago l heard the mossob were going to Ojukwu for advise!!! what advise can Ojukwu give except to teach how to run away when the going becomes tough. if you want practical and genuine advise on rebellion go to people like joseph Kony, of the lord resistace army. This are people who fought for almost 20 years both in the city and the bush, they never gave up. Even Ojukwu recognise that he is a coward for running away. |
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Eziachi
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the greatest harm a man can do to himself is to lie to himself, and that is the problem with some of you guys thinking Ikemba is a hero
sometime ago l heard the mossob were going to Ojukwu for advise!!!
what advise can Ojukwu give except to teach how to run away when the going becomes tough. if you want practical and genuine advise on rebellion go to people like joseph Kony, of the lord resistace army. This are people who fought for almost 20 years both in the city and the bush, they never gave up.
Even Ojukwu recognise that he is a coward for running away.
The good news or bad news is not everybody can afford to run away believe it or not. Stop punishing yourself with hate. Ojukwu is a hero to the Igbo and a run away to you. Does that helps you preventing you having a heart attack? If lord resistance army and their leadership are your heros with their record of crime against humanity like rapes, cutting up pregnant women and their foetus and burying their victims alive. Now you're proving to be totally depraved, God help you indeed. |
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bilymuse
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When Ken Saro-Wiwa was killed, Ibos were saying , "na God catch am, na them do us for biafra.
When june 12 was annulled and Abiola incacerrated, Ibos were jubilating saying, " na God catch them, they are paying for their non-support during biafra"
But when Obasanjo became the president, their tone change, they start fighting among themself saying, " we Ibo need to unite, look at the Yoruba"
The reason Obasanjo got the presidency is because of the total commitment and dedication by various people who fought till death to actualise June 12. Pa Adesanya , of blessed memory, challenge Abacha till the end, despite the constant harassment and threat to his life. Yoruba perseverance paid off.
your hero Ojukwu ran away when the going becomes tough, living his people to the whims and caprices of the victor.
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bilymuse
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the ibos are shrewed and creative business men, certainly the best we have in Nigeria, l have done bussines with quite some few of them, though l have my reservation. ln business , the objective is profit, but in politics the objective is a higher goal which can only be achieve through total dedication, commitment and sacrifice. Some of your leaders treat politics as business.
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dayokanu (m)
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A few soldiers planned the coup. What did Ironsi do in 6 months to dissociate the Igbo's from the actual of the coup plotters?
Instead of being decisive on a sensitive issue like this, he was short of ideas on how to address it. And the North had to take the laws into their
hand.
When Osama went to blow WTC did all Afghan support it? Probably No. What did Mullah Omar do to dissociate himself from the action? Nothing
Who suffered for the uninformed action of Osama and Mullah Omar? All Afghans.
All Iraqis are now suffering for the perceived crime of Saddam Hussein against America. Did they all support it? Probably No.
When the world wars came. WW1, some people killed Archduke Ferdinand in Serbia? Who suffered for the action of some miscreants? The whole world.
WW2. WHen Hitler went bonkers probably all Germans did not support him. But who suffered? All Germans.
Go and check all wars It is usually as a result of the action of one person or a few people and the who country would be brought down.
So all these Back and forth talk would not help anybody If a cowardly 33 year overgrown, spoilt child could lead a whole tribe to war and run away later.
while the people he led to war were dying in millions.
Read more about the Yoruba Aare Ona Kakanfo. The General of the Yoruba Army. He must die in battle. He cant run away from a lost battle. What do you call that BRAVERY!!!!!
And a certain Fajuyi who chose to die with his superior( An Ibo Man) when he could easily run away like Ikemba did. Major Katsina who led the Ibadan assault told
Fajuyi he could leave that he was not the target but he declined. But some people when the whole nation was looking for hope He chose to flee to Ivory Coast.
how convenient. BRAVERY???
Can someone tell me why in 2003, Ikemba contested for the Presidency of an entity he didnt beleive in? Or you need evidence that Ojukwu contested and lost the
presidential election
In Ademoyega's book, WHy we struck; He was wondering how Zik and the Eastern premier escaped. He had forgotten he was dealing with
Ibo's(Ifeajuna and Nzeogwu) whose word of honour means nothing.
@ IBIME,
YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT A REACTION AND IGNORING THE INITIAL ACTION. ACTION BRINGS A REACTION. UNLIKE IN PHYSICS IT IS
OPPOSITE BUT NOT NECESARILY EQUAL.
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Ibime (m)
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Same thing for the last 4 pages, Dayo - action and reaction - its getting a bit stale, so lets pack it in.
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Planner (m)
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@ Ibime,
Since Former president Olusegun Obasanjo (a Yoruba man) perpetrated war crimes in Odi, wouldn't it be nice if all yorubas no matter whereever they may reside on this planet be exterminated?
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dayokanu (m)
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And what is the Yoruba response. tacit approval or outright condemnation?
The most vocal anti OBJ people are even from Yorubaland Unlike what Ironsi did. The Nzeogwu coup was the Begining the Ironsi handling of the case was the final straw
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Planner (m)
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And what is the Yoruba response. tacit approval or outright condemnation? Boy , that is not the issue.Even if the yorubas condemn it, it still does not pass your "retaliatory test" you list on your post. Rember it was also a yoruba millitary personel that also carried out the raid and even boasted about his exploits. So Dayokanu whether you people condemn it or not, it is imaterial. So i can safely assume that it is justified even all yorubas are annihilated on account of Obasanjo's actions. |
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dayokanu (m)
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After the senseless 1966 Ibo coup, did the North react immediately? No they waited for the Head of State to address the issue. but since he did not. They addressed it the way they taught was right and commensurate
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Eziachi
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And what is the Yoruba response. tacit approval or outright condemnation?
The most vocal anti OBJ people are even from Yorubaland Unlike what Ironsi did. The Nzeogwu coup was the Begining the Ironsi handling of the case was the final straw
Ha ha ha! And Yoruba response was AD governor asking their race to support a PDP presidential candidate (OBJ) because he is their son and AD decided to filed no candidate but except sensible Bola Tinubu, who cannot be fooled. And rest of them paid the price as OBJ and PDP rigged them out of power after the presidential election except Tinubu again. So that was their response to polgrom in Odi and Zaki Ibiam, support for re-election. I think I am done with you now as I don't like repeating myself but one day issue will arise when I will remind you of your reprisal solution. As for your continious jibe about those or who ran away, Aare Ona Kakanfo should be the last man standing in a war, but the last one has to run for his life, not in a war but in a disputed election crisis. But I still think he did the right thing then. Have a nice day. |
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dayokanu (m)
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How does supporting OBj for 2nd term relates to Odi killing or don't you know what we are talking about? We are talking about Odi. Even according to INEC all the voters in Rivers and Bayelsa where Odi is located supported OBJ for 2nd term. So in 2003 whom do you want them to support, Buhari, or Ikemba who would run away whenever any issue comes up.  . I am sure if it rains for 2 days non stop, Ikemba would have jetted out of Nigeria on exile to Ivory Coast. It is in his character to run and leave his followers |
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bilymuse
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@ planner the problem with people like you is that you are an extremist. if you are a biafran soldier during the war you will have commited terrible war crime that would dwarf the pogrom in the north. Your writing speaks volume about your personality. Since Former president Olusegun Obasanjo (a Yoruba man) perpetrated war crimes in Odi, wouldn't it be nice if all yorubas no matter whereever they may reside on this planet be exterminated? the Yoruba people is the only tribe in the entire Nigeria that is prepared to condemned one of their own, if he goes wrong, irrespective of his status or condition. we were in the forefront of opposition against Obasanjo both before and during his regime. Many prominent Yoruba people condemned the Odi massacre including afenifere; and Yoruba lawyers were in the forefront of seeking redress for the people of Odi and Niger delta in general. what was the Ibo response: " na God catch them, sebi them no support us during Biafra" this is traders talk, traders are profit motivated, they lack conscience. |
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Ujujoan (f)
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They are talking of charging Biafrans with Treason and you are talking of Genocide.
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Dede1
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A few soldiers planned the coup. What did Ironsi do in 6 months to dissociate the Igbo's from the actual of the coup plotters?
Instead of being decisive on a sensitive issue like this, he was short of ideas on how to address it. And the North had to take the laws into their
hand.
It amazes me how low intellect has become the best pal to many Nigerians. The funny part of the idiocy is that they are willing to display their crass ignorance of the facts in the public. Please pal, if you really want to castigate Ironsi, I suggest you do that without bias and prejudice. I had rather have you accuse Ironsi of stark stupidity than nonchalance to proper procedure. Ironsi showed that he was an embodiment of colossal stupidity when he constitute 3-man panel to gather facts and evidences for court-marshal indictment of the coup plotters. The 3-man panel constituted of Gowon, Usman and Yusuf. The panelists strategically delayed bringing indictments against the coup plotters so that Ironsi would look horrible in the political eyes all Nigerians but Ndigbo. All three men were from northern region of Nigeria and involved in the coup that killed Ironsi. I say good radiance. And a certain Fajuyi who chose to die with his superior( An Ibo Man) when he could easily run away like Ikemba did. Major Katsina who led the Ibadan assault told
Please enough of this stupid propaganda spearheaded by the Western Region of Nigerian government Publication of 1967 to cover the indefensible cowardice displayed by the people of western region of Nigerian including those in uniform except peasant farmers from Ijebu Ode. In the autobiography of Yakubu Gowon, one Col William Walbe rubbished such claim when he stated that Fajuyi was more of a target than Ironsi because Fajuyi has been implicated in the coup of January 15, 1966. Remember that Lt William Walbe was incharge of Ironsi’s guard and was the officer who, along with Danjuma, executed the arrest of Ironsi and Fajuyi. In the same interview, Walbe intimated that elimination of Fajuyi was strategically because the Northern Region of Nigeria could not handle two progressive southern military governors at the same time. I personally deduced that if Fajuyi was alive, there would not have been civil war and Nigeria would have been divided into two on the insistence of northern region of Nigerian political leaders and some military men. Again, Major Hassan Katsina was not 100 miles to Ibadan when the coup of July 29, 1966 took place. I think he was in Kaduna as the military governor of northern region of Nigerian. It seemed you have been wrongly educated on the events that led to the Nigeria/Biafra civil war. I guess you need to buckle up. |
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grafikdon
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My friend, stop jumping all over the place like testicles. If you don't have anything to contribute, keep it moving!
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fresh-B
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'one nigeria' MY FOOT I have friends devastated simply because they were not able to marry the ladies of their choice. Why? Their daddies wanted only Igbo husbands.
Similarly, i've got a close friend who has had to ditch his long term girlfriend who is Yoruba. His parents insist he must marry a girl from Anambra state. The poor fellow was heartbroken. better to BE SINGLE THAN MARRY cameleon yoruba/hausa girl better to BE IRAGI LIVING WITH osama bin loading than blood suckers {asogakwa nu m face} |
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tpia
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We can go even further back in history and you will see that the Fulanis, Igalas and Edo people are the only people who migrated into Nigeria by use of the sword  any sources for this claim? |
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kastro9210 (m)
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The attack on Biafara was provoked, this episode we must put behind us.But for the records,the only person guilty of war crime is Ojukwu, for leading a sizable portion of his kinsmen to their brutal and untimely graves.
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Dede1
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The attack on Biafara was provoked, this episode we must put behind us.But for the records,the only person guilty of war crime is Ojukwu, for leading a sizable portion of his kinsmen to their brutal and untimely graves.
How could a geographical expression develop beyond mere expression when the young inhabitants can not engage in a constructive reasoning? Blaming Ojukwu for Nigeria-Biafra civil war is like castigating a nurse for being a hand to woman under intensive labor. Gowon and Nigerian armed forces started the war by attacking Biafra. A drooling simpleton can decipher that Nigeria initiated the attack on Biafra yet those who pride themselves as world class intellects fail to grasp. War was precipitated on Biafra by Nigeria because of the enormous deposit of Crude Oil in eastern region of Nigeria. The fight for mineral deposits has been the trend in Africa as exemplified in Katanga. |
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nuzo (m)
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They are talking of charging Biafrans with Treason and you are talking of Genocide.
May god damage your life. Ameen.  |
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fayahsoul
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1) Ijaw people did not sell ndiigbo into slavery. . .who dash them liver. They just acted as middle-men who bought enslaved igbos from Arochukwu slave traders and then sold them to the white devils. Ijaw cannot match ndiigbo in combat.
2) Ojukwu is not my hero. he is not the hero of many biafrans too. He deserves to be hung for betrayal and cowardice. He's not a true warrior because, not only was he a lousy military strategist and commander, he also failed to uphold the immortal vow of loyalty that says: "Death before dishonour." I curse the day he and his kin were born. Damned black devil.
3) @ topic
It was GENOCIDE! period. and all those who participated in those attrocities against the children of the most high will have the consequences of their sins visited on their children all the way down to the 7th generation.
Still wondering why nigeria is a big joke? The wrath of the most high is upon all Nigerians because they refuse to repent of their wicked ways.
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Onlytruth (m)
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To Ibime, and Iseobio, I just want to say thank you ! I knew that Biafrans fought together but I never really knew how much until I read your posts.
Was the war a genocide? I would approach it this way.
(1) For none Biafrans who say it was a genocide; may you and your descendants never experience the Biafran war experience for ever.
(2) For all those who say it was not a genocide, that it was "all is fair in war" unfortunates; may the Biafran war experience visit you, cling to you and your descendants from generation to generation. Amen. (sealed).
This is a curse rooted in justice, sealed by the blood of the 2 million dead Biafrans. Any African reading this knows that this curse will stick. The decision to invite it or reject it lies in your conscience. Choose one!
@Eziachi, you are a true son of Biafra and may you and all who fought to save a nation; may your blessings be like the ocean upon which the world must depend and whose reach and endurance will never cease. May your blessing be like the air upon which the world must depend and whose reach knows no bound. May your enemies never be able to survive without your grace. This blessing is coming your way because you laid down your lives; Igbos, Annangs, Ibibios, Ijaws and all Biafrans who fought at the front, you gave your blood that we may live today.
Thank you!
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Aloy.Emeka
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Read more about the Yoruba Aare Ona Kakanfo. The General of the Yoruba Army. He must die in battle. He cant run away from a lost battle. What do you call that BRAVERY!!!!!
And a certain Fajuyi who chose to die with his superior( An Ibo Man) when he could easily run away like Ikemba did. Major Katsina who led the Ibadan assault told
Fajuyi he could leave that he was not the target but he declined. But some people when the whole nation was looking for hope He chose to flee to Ivory Coast.
how convenient. BRAVERY??? Yes, like Afonja, the Are-Onakakanfo of Oyo Ile, a war commander of the then Alaafin Aole of Yorobas was in a nearby hamlet, close to Gaa Fulani seeking refuge having lost a war, the Iwere war. In the then Yoruba tradition, a warlord must win any war failing which he must commit suicide.
Having lost a war and not ready to die, Afonja fled his native land, Oyo Ile, to escape the wrath of the Alaafin. Also, Moshood Abiola, the Are-onakakanfo of Yorobaland fled Nigeria when Abacha and his deadly squad were killing fellow Yorobamen that fought for democracy. He even fled before Bola Tinubu. Bola Tinubu was the man that stood and challenged Abacha for a while until it was obvious sgt Rogers got a contract for his head and not your are onakanfo. |
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Beaf
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There is a strong case for genocide. 1 million dead! Damn!  |
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