The Biafra War-a Case Of Genocide Or Not?

"Civility sucks people. . . . . . . . . .It is a bloody clog in the necessary wheel of evolution.

Can we get back to the mud-slinging and sabre-rattling. . . . . . . . . . . "
 
 
@ doyin13,



Doyin13, The likes of you belong to medieval dungeons where you will not see the light of day, Imagine you saying civility sucks! Crack headed man, that's what you are!

All the extreme comments here including mine is more reason we have no business being one nation but the same people will say other wise. Igbos are the only group in Nigeria bold enough to ask for independence from Nigeria and others are saying no and we will kill you rather than for you to go. And it makes you wonder why?

My generation has start to believe that Nigeria cannot exist without the Igbo nation in it, if not can someone tell me the hot hostilities against Igbos but yet they opposed their sessesion with venom and sadistic hatred? When south East Cameroon seseeded from Nigeria in 1961 to join the French Cameroon, nobody lifted an eyelid, when half of Adamawa emirate decided to join their Marou and Garou brother into Cameroon despite still in subjection to the Lamido till this day, but nobody complained or noticed but everyone developed a hot air when the Igbo nation and others did the same.

All th comments, including mine show the biggest mistake ever to come out of colonialism is the creation of Nigeria. If we are now hearing that Igbos killed/raped midwesterners, why is everybody afraid of national conference where all these can be said? Some like Ojukwu, Gowon, Danjuma, Obasanjo etc are still alive, why not? Why wait until they are no more?

All the atrocities Nigerians committed inside Biafraland is well documented in  pictures, newsreel, foreign journalist like Fredrick Forsythe, Jonathan Atkin has written about it and never had they mention a crime committed by the Biafran and they are eye witnesses.
That when Obasanjo became head of state in 1976, a Caritas officer in Biafra lamentd that it was the biggest travesty in history for not only a war criminal to be allow to go free but allowed to become a head of state of a nation in a modern world.

Some has said that six hundred thousand innocent people massacred in the north before the war is not a genocide- well you and your concience will live with that!!!
Some claimed systematic bombing of market and public houses is not a war crime- may you live with your concience.
Some has defended the time period, that it should be forgotten but they forgot that Abiola's election manifestoe in 1993 contains the paying of reparation for slavery by the western nations. Despite that MKO knew how long ago slavery ended.
Some has defended abandoned property law doesn't amount to crime against humanity, then tell me why those that strip the European Jews of their golds and vintage paintings recieved life sentences after the 2nd world war.

Only last month the Nazi hunter has tracked down a German doctor that worked in the concentration camp in Chile and he will face war crime now in the Hague, he is 94 years old and no one is comaplaining about his age or time period.

Serbian killed 7,600 moslem Bosnian during the Bulkan war in the 90s and it's was declared a genocide but the masssacre of 2-4 million Igbos and others are not a genocide and a person with heart and blood in him is defeding that statement. But only last Night, the former Bosnian=Serbian leader Karadzic was arrested after evading the law for 13 years but the likes of Danjuma were rewarded with oil blocks from our lands.

Those that made a law that give a man N20 even when he had a million is the bank and defend it will live with their conciences.
Those that put a ban on importation of second hand clothe or allowing aid agencies to give them to war victim sshould live with their conciences.

Today Anthony Enahoro is crying for a regional/confederation govt but wasn't that what Ojukwu and Gowon signed at Aburi and the like of Enahoro came home and change their mind and wanted everything at the centre but Ojukwu stuck to the agreement they signed. Enahoro was the apostle of hunger as war weapon, what is his position today in Nigeria?

We can all talk from here to heaven without various justification of evil in the name of unwarranted hatred fuelled by pure unnecessary jealousy but it has shown that as long as political union is concerned Nigeria is dead, but we just postponing the evil day. 

OK, we agree!!!

Igbos are the special Nigerians. They are better than all other tribes and we are all jealous of them because we can't live without them or we fear they would do better than us.

You happy now? Or do I still have to buy you milk and chocolate biscuits to keep you quiet?


I hope you know that the journalists you listed were brought into Biafra by Ojukwu, provided with cars and infrastructure to develop their stories for propanganda purposes, were guided to specific choice locations by the Biafran army to see what the Biafrans wanted them to see and had direct access anytime they want to Ojukwu. This priviledged access (which the federal troops denied them) helped develop their career and made them money.

So I wonder how you want me to take their stories as unbiased and holy grail of facts during the war.

It is estimated that 1-2m Biafran civilians & army and 200K Federal civilians & army died.

Believe me, someone killed the 200 thousand Federal civilians & army personnel.

And believe me, it wasn't Jesus.

War is a horrible thing.


Bollocks!

Where is your evidence for this figure?


Evils of war and still being done.

Go to iraq and Afganistan and see the British and the US doing it. Even bombing weddings.

Evils of war. War is a horrible thing.


Who gives a damn.

Is Abiola God?

We are suppose to follow whatever Abiola's vision is?

If you feel you have been dispossesed unfairly of property that you lawfully own, then go to the court of law.

Even if you are unsuccessful, that should be your first start and based on the merits of your case some of us would support you and see how the house of assembly can change laws to ensure justice. Don't come and rant on a forum.

Idiotic strawman's argument.

You are clearly a complete moron since the beginning of this debate.

Whatever your personality problem is which is leading you to demagogy, I am not the person to help you solve it.

And for your information I don't go to church.

So, your uncle was issued with death threats?

So what do you want me to help you do?

Give him some balls? 

Read up on what strawman arguments are, then you would know only unintelligent morons use it.

OK, lets agree you are a moron but not a human butcher.

And I am neither a moron nor a human butcher.

Good stuff!!!

 Any by the way i askd you a question which i am yet yo get an answer.

Why did the late Yoruba "sage" Chief Obafemi Awolowo crafted numerous intense anti-igbo laws?

You told me to go his grave and ask him. Well the dead cannot speak, therefore his defenders  like you can be helpful.

Chei!!!

I didn't know you are a bit smart sha. So it took you just a day to discover this.

Are you sure you have not been cheating?

You have been secretly eating your nootropic foods to improve your brain power.

Smart boy, eat your nuts, dried fruits and oily fish more frequently.

OK, Awo is dead and can not answer your questions himself, but their is a horse he once had that drank water from the Ogun river which resulted in the horse's immortality and developing an ability to speak.

The horse roams in the forests between Ikenne and Odogbolu. It answers questions for Awo but for it to answer anyone's question, the person has to first go back to his own village and start his journey to the forest on foot only. Throughout the journey on foot, the person is required to be singing Billy Jean and/or Thiller out loudly for everyone to hear and give N1000 to at least one person every kilometre travelled or else the horse would refuse to talk.

This is your chance to ask your Awo questions, grab it. You are a smart boy.

read "Half of a Yellow Sun", excellent book for for learning about BIAFRA WAR

Yeah.  I'm sure we'll get the full picture from a few leaflets made popular by a pretty writer.

Biafra war?? Hmm!!

It was not genocide. I refuse to call it genocide. Ojukwu led his people into a war he could not win.
It's a pity that so many people had to die for a senseless war. Despite the war Nigeria still remains one and yet so many lives were lost.
I still remember when my dad told bout the war, he lost 4 of his brothers in one day. In his words "my mum aged over night".
We the new post war generation should stop looking back and acting on past griveances and esponge the hate from our hearts.

I don't really believe we are really united as a country, but that is only because every one thinks he or she is being cheated. True federalism is the answer to Nigerias problems.

One Naija, in peace or war.

From what I have read about the whole thing and the atrocities that took place, I think they had limited options to them than to take a very determined stance which the secession portrayed. So I don't see anything wrong with the approach, I would most likely have done the same thing myself if I was in their shoes.

Unfortunately, circumstances led to the likes of a narcissist like Ojukwu rising to the leadership position.

If it was Zik that was opportune to lead, I doubt it would have gone into full scale war as the man would have been intelligent enough to threaten, access the impossibility of the task and then negotiate good terms to achieve a few goals for the people unlike the more belligerent, foolhardy, "I think I am smart" Ojukwu.

A lot of unbearable suffering would have been avoided.

see Queenisha.

If you mean human spare parts, then in your rush to jump on the emotional bandwagon, you're saying Igbos will supply them .ie the human spare parts will be from Igbo bodies.

Or what exactly are you saying here?


This is what I said before: I don't know why anyone would want their fellow human being to go through that kind of thing again. I don't know for people sha. Anyone calling for war should be the ones sacrificing themselves on the altar of war.



I wish people could discuss issues in a level headed manner. Being the suppliers of guns and ammunitions only satisfies your blood lust, and will still come back to bite you in the behind. Congo, Angola et al have been supplying uranium for bombs, weapons for Nigerian militants, and so on. In what way is the activity benefitting them? Their countries are regarded as wasteland due to war. In spite of being "suppliers".

War is bad. Regardless anything anyone is saying. The US also had a civil war. So have many other countries. Its up to people to either continue the cycle of violence or forge ahead with their lives.

You're the one revealing bloodthirstiness here.

Anyone disagreeing with your call for blood is always anti Igbo, according to you.

You say you're a Christian. Yet you're continually calling for blood of your "enemeies", whoever they are.

I repeat_ i have seen pictures, heard first hand accounts of the war, and read books about it. I DO NOT SUPPORT ANYONE CALLING FOR A REPEAT OF THAT KIND OF BLOODSHED.

If that makes me an Igbo hater, then so be it. Feel free to label me as you wish.


 Little children were also caught up in this war, in case you have forgotten. Its the innocent people (both Igbo and your perceived enemies) who will be caught up in the crossfire while you are busy supplying ammunition and spare parts. Am disappointed, for real.
 
 
 

I see nothing humorous about this thread.

Unless you mean graveyard humor.

Biafrans should clam down, The Niger Delta will handle business from here on.

Part of what led to the civil war, is what is causing the mayhem in the Niger Delta - revenue derivation formula.

The failure of Nigeria to resolve the issue 45 years ago, has made it much harder to resolve today.