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Chxta (m)
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www.chxta.blogspot.comFor the first time in a long time I was at Otigba yesterday. To say that I am extremely unhappy about the state of things there would be an understatement. For those who may not know, Otigba otherwise known as Computer Village is the area bounded by Kodesoh Street, Mobolaji Bank Anthony Way, Oba Akran Way and Agege Motor Road. Some years ago I'd have proudly said that this was Nigeria's answer to Silicon Valley. There was a time that if you couldn't get something computer related in Otigba, then you definitely couldn't get it anywhere else in Nigeria. Software, hardware, freeware, OEMs, pirated stuff, there was nothing that you couldn't get at the beloved Computer Village. Then the Igbo merchants moved in, I spent a sizeable portion of yesterday roving around the place and didn't find a simple UPS adapter. The implication of my failure to find that adapter is that I have to cut wires to get some systems in the office to work. That is crappy. But what saddened me the most is that the fellows that I used to roll with back in the day before I left for Abuja have all moved on. Sunny the guy who could get you any software is no more at his stand in front of Citizen's Bank, Erimona has closed his shop and left, Chinedu now operates out of VI, Tony is no longer there, ditto Epa. The only person whom I recognised from way back that remains (and she has relocated to an even smaller shop) is Gbemi. I asked her what was wrong, and she said it point blank: they couldn't cope with the competition presented by these Igbo dudes. They go to Taiwan and buy cheap stuff, then come back here and sell at rates that they (the computer litereate people in the yard) can't even begin to cope with. The only people who have survived from back in the day are Balogtek, Gafunk and Kavex, simply because they already had a defined clientelle of corporate customers or else they like Silicon Concepts and Pragmatic would have closed shop at Otigba and moved on. The depressing thing is that these Igbo merchants don't know anything about what they are selling. They have no clue. I walked into a shop and picked up an accessory and the young man there couldn't even speak English. I was forced to switch to Igbo, and even then was shocked to find that he couldn't even tell me jack about basic information on the stuff he was selling. Does it work with operating systems other than Windows? What are the minimum systems requirements? Is it USB 1.1 or USB 2.O? The young man didn't know, and worse didn't give a damn. As far as he was concerned, "ha na ru oru", and that was what mattered. How pathetic! This brings me to something that bothers me a lot about my ethnic group. I once heard a story of a man who was willing to sponsor a bright young chap up until whatever level of education the boy desired. But the boy's father refused. As far as he was concerned, the boy would be better off going to Jalingo (of all places!) to join his uncle in his shop. Last Christmas when I went to the villa, one of all these Nnewi boys heard me talking about going abroad for a Masters, laughed, shook his head and said "ndi umu akuo"! He drives an E-class, so as far as he is concerned he has arrived. Nowadays (for quite a number of years now), the Igbo have on the average just been sending their daughters to school. Their sons should be in the market learning how to feed the family. That is bullshit. The effects would not show now. We will all be around to see it in the next 30 years when Igbos become politically irrelevant. A lot of Igbo girls marry men from other ethnic groups because their kinsmen can't match up to them or connect with them on an intellectual level. An even larger number are opting to stay single because they can't find intelligent Igbo men anymore. The Igboman is doing himself more harm than good by cutting out education. So says Chxta. Anyone with a contrary opinion, I dare you to air it.
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twinstaiye (m)
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An eye opener write up I dare say chxta. It saddened me too. You know it is the same thing in GSM Village here in Abuja. Nokia is the worst culprit. If you are not careful you will end up buying a fake Nokia phones. But those electronics fake are even better as the worst is that you lose your money, but what about the fake drugs? I was told by someone that there is somewhere in Onitsha market where noone who is not conversant with the place dare go. The gist is that once you landed yourself in that area, you may not come out alive simply because the area is the place where fake drugs are being manufacture. You cant leave the place for fear that you will leak the secret to the authorities. Whether that is true or not, I dont know, but out of ever rumour there is an iota of truth. All in the name of making money, when will our people live up to expectations? Same goes to political arena, when would it ever be the Igbo's turn to be the president? Some analyst believe that even, if eventually power rotates to Igbo, they may end up auctioning the power to a non igbo who will be claiming an igbo indigene simply because he can pay his way into the position of the president. Like I said chxta, your write-up is an eye opener.
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otokx (m)
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though it is prevalent amongst the igbos, the worship of materialism is spreading in other ethnic entities. As chxta said, it will be more manifest later afterall the free education introduced by Awo in the past is yielding fruit now.
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Rhea (m)
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Chxta, A eye opener indeed (for a one-eyed man) You have approached the topic from one perspective: that of a learned Igbo man disgruntled by the teeming population of uneducated Igbo youths clamouring to make money above anything else. Now, imagine a world without these illiterate Igbo traders. In a typical electronics shopping mall I visited in China, 97% of the traders there cannot say Jack in English. Proficiency in English language has never been a pre-requisite for success in life. It would amaze you to know the contribution of these merchants to our nation's GDP. Also see: http://www.cenbank.org/OUT/SPEECHES/2006/Govadd1-6-06.pdfNo doubt, our markets are being admonished with lots of sub-standard imported goods. What is Standards Organisation of Nigeria doing about them.
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Idekeson (m)
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@Rhea
Thanks for pointing out the real issue here. The problem is not the Igbo merchants but the complete break down of law enforcement in Nigeria. Even in developed countries, merchant laws are highly developed and enforced to protect consumers. The contributions of private investments in a developing economy cannot be overemphasized. It's not the fault of the Igbo trader that Nigeria lacks a functional government.
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vanunu
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You don't blame the Igbos for this, and mind you the Igbos now go to universities and other higher institutions more than any other ethnic group in Nigeria, you can verify from JAMB and NYSC. Imo state alone produces almost 20% of students that gain admission into universities in Nigeria.
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vanunu
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You don't blame the Igbos for this, and mind you the Igbos now go to universities and other higher institutions more than any other ethnic group in Nigeria, you can verify from JAMB and NYSC. Imo state alone produces almost 20% of students that gain admission into universities in Nigeria.
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Bialegend (m)
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Bia, this boy called Chxta or whatever, what kind of generalization are you making here??. Like someone said in your blog, all fish eat flesh, but the shark gets the blame. Can you tell us of any ethnic group in Nigerian that does not import nor deal on sub-standard goods of any sort??. Then what can you say about the producers of all the so called sub-standard goods like the Chinese, Malaysians, Indonesians, Taiwan and others??. They are not educated right??, or you are more educated than them??. Can you tell us when in the history of your nigeria has it's economic team done so well like the present economic team of your beloved nigeria is doing presently??. The team comprises of IGBO and that's why their performance is as it is now. Your nigeria, OBJ precisely need those IGBO economic team and not vice versa. He should have changed them if it's not a fact and see the consequence result. Ndigbo's case is a case of "eat the fatest FROG" if you are really interested in eating one. Talk about anything good in your nigeria, we Ndigbo are in the fore front of it, from education to whatever. I mentioned education because that is the area where you and your yoroba mates on this forum seem to use in your ridicule against Ndigbo. Your mate otokx is even praising awo's free education my mentioning that it have started yielding fruit now. Which fruit is it yielding now if i may ask??. Is it that the yorobas are more educated or enroll more in schools than IGBOS??. I am not here to be challenged about this fact cause JAMB is there to prove me right or you can prove me wrong if you have any means to do so. You can simply help your self here and learn how not to talk what you don't know. http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/narticles/ndigbo_and_school_enrollment.htm and also http://nigeriaworld.com/letters/2003/mar/112ltr.htmlSomeone is also rumoring about a certain no go area at Onitsha. Then what about all the no go areas at Ogun, Ibadan, Ore, Owo, Ondo, Kwara, and other places in yoroba and hausa cities??. I guess IGBOS and not yorobas nor hausas manufacture fake goods there??. You perform at a lower level and IGBOS do their thing in a higher scale, so whats the matter with you people and why the jealousness???. Who ever is jealous of our making money should simply go and jump into the lagoon and die off quick. Talk of envy by the rest of the world against the jews. I will advise you to lean your energy in criticizing the lazy ethnic groups in your beloved nigeria than waste your energy in talking about the enterprising in all aspects and unstopable IGBOS. You was at Otigba my foot. Here are more links to read and stop peddling your insinuations against Ndigbo if you area really one of them as you claim. http://www2.ncsu.edu/ncsu/aern/disjustice.htmlhttp://nm.onlinenigeria.com/templates/?a=806&z=12
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zebudaya (m)
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In conclusion igbo people go to school, from Bialegend's list above the ones that cannot afford it or don't want to go to school go into business, what is wrong with that? It's better than being an Area boy or Agbero check out Lagos Island, and oshodi, mushin you see able bodied youths doing nothing but mischief.
Hapu ha aka, ha na aru oru.
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mochafella (m)
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I mentioned education because that is the area where you and your yoroba mates on this forum seem to use in your ridicule against Ndigbo.
Here are more links to read and stop peddling your insinuations against Ndigbo if you area really one of them as you claim.
erm, I get the sneaky feeling Chxta is truthfully Igbo.
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dokey2g (m)
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Bialegend l feel u !!!!!!!! Tell them let them hear !!!! I will advise you to lean your energy in criticizing the lazy ethnic groups in your beloved nigeria than waste your energy in talking about the enterprising in all aspects and unstopable IGBOS
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Skidoc (m)
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I will advise you to lean your energy in criticizing the lazy ethnic groups in your beloved nigeria than waste your energy in talking about the enterprising in all aspects and unstopable IGBOS.
You know you can get past your critique of Chxta's piece without making such a silly statement. So who are the lazy ethnic groups?
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Drusilla (f)
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In the 1900's there was a fight between an Intellectual who wanted black Americans to concentrate of education and a Businessman who wanted us to concentrate of Industry. We went the route of the Intellectual. Worst disaster since "things fell apart". We were educating ourselves with bibles, waiting on the white man to allow us into good schools and colleges in any significant numbers. In the end, we all know the businessman industrialists was right. It was more important to have money in your pocket than to sit around being able to debate with liars about minutia that academics think is important. My thinking is that Igbo's are smart to concentrate a lot on the money and some on the intellectuals. Last time I checked, a smart broke man have more problems getting a woman than a uneducated rich man. I ain't saying we some Gold Diggas. But we ain't messing with no broke Igbos.  My 2 cents is now leaving the room.
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otokx (m)
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as usual this debate has started taking an ethnic colouration with people pointing their fingers at the yoruba man. the last time i heard it was delta/edo leading the highest number of people admitted into Nigerian Universities but someone here is saying the Igbo's are the highest. The truth is if you are to look at the top 10 nigerian entrepeneurs i don't think half of them will be igbo's so lets not engage in self delusion.
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Skidoc (m)
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as usual this debate has started taking an ethnic colouration with people pointing their fingers at the yoruba man. The truth is if you are to look at the top 10 nigerian entrepeneurs i don't think half of them will be igbo's so lets not engage in self delusion. Exactly. There was a thread on Nigerian entrepreneurs sometime ago and I tell you Yorubas topped the list. Most of the major movers and shakers of Nigerian business world are indeed Yorubas. Igbos are just plenty in business but they are not making any impact. So much for the hardworking clan and so much for the lazy ethnic groups. 
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Nutter (m)
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@skidoc and otokx Did you guys miss the post by twinstaiye where he started the ethnic finger-pointing (aside from Chyxta of course)? Did you miss where he stated that the Igbo, if offered the position President would 'auction' it to a non-Igbo? Did you miss where he stated that he was told of a 'no-go area' in Onitsha market? Even though he states that he is not sure that this 'no-go area' exists, he went on to state that "out of every rumour there is an iota of truth". He was the one that introduced the production of fake drugs and politics with the aim of pointing heavily-soiled fingers at the Igbo. Did the pair of you miss all that or do you suffer from selective-reading? The finger-pointing was started by one of your own and now the Igbo on this forum have risen in their own defence, you are running under the umbrella of live-and-let-live. Rubbish.
And, just so we are clear, entrepreneur wey dey successful because him brother for government dey throw contract him way, NO BE ENTREPRENEUR! He is nothing more than a political jobber! If not, show us that top-ten list of yours if you dare!
My Igbo brothers,
The links you provided to other sites have taken the air out of Chyxta's arguments. You have done well umu nwanne mu. Daalu. Make them dey there dey jealous us.
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Bialegend (m)
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as usual this debate has started taking an ethnic colouration with people pointing their fingers at the yoruba man. the last time i heard it was delta/edo leading the highest number of people admitted into Nigerian Universities but someone here is saying the Igbo's are the highest. The truth is if you are to look at the top 10 nigerian entrepeneurs i don't think half of them will be igbo's so lets not engage in self delusion.
What do you mean by the last time you heard?? , and what do you mean by someone here is saying the Igbo's are the highest??. Why don't you quit being lazy and confirm that your "someone here is saying" by simply googling up the information or check it up on the JAMB website. You haven't heard for the last time, you will soon hear it again that Sokoto and Katsina are leading in the highest number of people admitted into your nigerias universities. You guys are better off with hearing and discussing anything anti IGBO, but when facts are presented against your biased sentiments, hell will let loose. Don't come here to mess around if you can't simply bring up facts or links to support your claim that Delta/Edo leads the pack.
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Skidoc (m)
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Did you miss where he stated that the Igbo, if offered the position President would 'auction' it to a non-Igbo? Did you miss where he stated that he was told of a 'no-go area' in Onitsha market? Even though he states that he is not sure that this 'no-go area' exists, he went on to state that "out of every rumour there is an iota of truth". He was the one that introduced the production of fake drugs and politics with the aim of pointing heavily-soiled fingers at the Igbo. Duhhh isn’t it true?  It’s the fact! Don’t let your quest to defend your kindred blind your sense of good reasoning, ok? Embrace the truth. Can you confidently refute all these allegations? And, just so we are clear, entrepreneur wey dey successful because him brother for government dey throw contract him way, NO BE ENTREPRENEUR! He is nothing more than a political jobber! If not, show us that top-ten list of yours if you dare!
So how many top Igbo entrepreneurs with nationwide notable achievements do you know? Come up with your list and I come up with my list of Yoruba bigwigs. (Remember not to lump the Deltas/Edos/Urhobos etc. with you. Make it purely Igbos) Make them dey there dey jealous us.
Jealous of what? Hahahaha lol!  I reserve my comments. What do you mean by the last time you heard?? , and what do you mean by someone here is saying the Igbo's are the highest??. Why don't you quit being lazy and confirm that your "someone here is saying" by simply googling up the information or check it up on the JAMB website. You haven't heard for the last time, you will soon hear it again that Sokoto and Katsina are leading in the highest number of people admitted into your nigerias universities. You guys are better off with hearing and discussing anything anti IGBO, but when facts are presented against your biased sentiments, hell will let loose. Don't come here to mess around if you can't simply bring up facts or links to support your claim that Delta/Edo leads the pack.
As for you, I won’t even touch on your post. You are not objective and you’ve really got a cheek to call other ethnic groups lazy just because of the stupid stereotype that Igbos are hardworking.
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Bialegend (m)
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Skidoc Wrote: As for you, I won’t even touch on your post. You are not objective and you’ve really got a cheek to call other ethnic groups lazy just because of the stupid stereotype that Igbos are hardworking. Duhhh isn’t it true? It’s the fact! Don’t let your quest to defend your kindred blind your sense of good reasoning, ok??. The fact is that your kinsmen are shoulders high among the lazy folks in your nigeria. Embrace the truth. Can you confidently refute all these allegations?
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Nutter (m)
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@skidoc  Wasn't it you guys that attempted to stand facts on their head by making statements to the effect that the Yoruba are better entrepreneurs than the Igbo? It thus becomes necessary for you to either prove your position or keep your jaundiced tribal views to yourself and your kind. Post that list if you dare!  You are all jealous of the Igbo and will continue to be. That's why you have latched on to Chyxta's biased assessment. You have now found an Igbo face for a Yoruba polemic but facts remain facts however hard you may try. I understand though. If I had your mentality, I would be jealous too  IGBO KWENU!
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Nutter (m)
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Na guilty conscience 
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wiseguy (m)
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Do I actually need to respond to this? My brothers hear have said it all. I got a business to run please. Ndewoo nu
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Skidoc (m)
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@skidoc  Wasn't it you guys that attempted to stand facts on their head by making statements to the effect that the Yoruba are better entrepreneurs than the Igbo? It thus becomes necessary for you to either prove your position or keep your jaundiced tribal views to yourself and your kind. Post that list if you dare! See this guy trying use reverse psychology on me.  Funny dude. It’s obvious you have no list to post because you really don’t know. You’ve got no clue.  You are all jealous of the Igbo and will continue to be. That's why you have latched on to Chyxta's biased assessment. You have now found an Igbo face for a Yoruba polemic but facts remain facts however hard you may try. I understand though. If I had your mentality, I would be jealous too  Yes, we are jealous. Hehe, I've listed a few things we are jealous of. Just scroll down a bit. Thanks.  Skidoc Wrote:Duhhh isn’t it true? It’s the fact! Don’t let your quest to defend your kindred blind your sense of good reasoning, ok??. The fact is that your kinsmen are shoulders high among the lazy folks in your nigeria. Embrace the truth. Can you confidently refute all these allegations?
Oh lol, it has descended to this eh? Ok, I agree. Thanks. We are lazy. It’s better to be identified with laziness than to be identified with fraudulent acts, swindling, internet 419, fake drugs, fake products (Aba na the source) etc. If you are not blind and if your comprehension faculty is functioning properly, you would have absorbed the previous posts on this topic before jumping in. Go back and read, hmm?
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Akolawole (m)
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That is the problem with us in Nigerians.
I try as much not to comment on anything Ethnic in Nairaland because people tend to take it too personal.
When are we going to grow up for God sake?
I was reading an article on Nigeriaworld few days ago, where the writer was claiming that "Igbos have the highest number of degree holders in Nigeria".
I wanted to bring up the topic here but i reversed then i remember " A village called Okemesi-Ekiti and the number of proffessors they have" then i laughed.
@Chxta Thanks my brother, whatever insults they throw at you, just take it. You have said your own.
Note: I have been called omo-Ale(Bastard) because i wrote something against the Yorubas in this forum.
I dont care anyway, i will continue to speak up no matter whose ox is gored.
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Skidoc (m)
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Akolawole, What these children don't understand is that truth is bitter. Chxta was 100% correct about what he wrote. He is even an eye-witness. How many of these people foaming in the mouth have even been to Otigba Computer Village to see things for themselves? They just sit behind a computer in faraway Jand/Yankee and type rubbish. They don't know what is happening back home. Children, where are you now?  Come and display more ignorance here.
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Nutter (m)
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See this guy trying use reverse psychology on me.  Funny dude. It’s obvious you have no list to post because you really don’t know. You’ve got no clue. Awww, skidoc. Have you now been caught in your own tangled web of deceit? Poor fella. BEFORE my entry to this thread the following happened: 1. Otokx at 11:18:59 AM stated: "The truth is if you are to look at the top 10 nigerian entrepeneurs i don't think half of them will be igbo's so lets not engage in self delusion. " 2. You ( SKIDOC) replied at 11:36:58 AM: "Exactly. There was a thread on Nigerian entrepreneurs sometime ago and I tell you Yorubas topped the list. Most of the major movers and shakers of Nigerian business world are indeed Yorubas. Igbos are just plenty in business but they are not making any impact.  My first post is timed at 12:19:35 PM; AFTER you and otokx spoke about a supposed ranking of entrepreneurs that the Yoruba topped. Therefore, what then do you not understand about my request? Post that list YOU have spoken so glowingly about let us see. Abi do I have to make the reqest in Yoruba before you 'back-up' your empty claim? Okay then, here goes: Joo ba mi post list yen je ka wo  . My request may have been lost in translation so do forgive me. For the last time, please post this list of yours or stop making yourself look ridiculous by digging yourself into a deeper hole. The choice remains yours.
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Skidoc (m)
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I'm not going to let you manipulate me. I'm too smart for you, dude! Try this on somebody else. I don't only have a list, I also have a URL link.  But where is your own list? You've got none. How do I know you have no list? You have previously agreed that indeed Yorubas probably top the list but you brought it down with the assertion that it's due to government contracts. You said that, didn't you? If you are so sure of your own, why not post the list first? From my previous post, I threw up a challenge. I said post a list of notable Igbo entrepreneurs, then I will post mine, so ma twist e. Who do you think you are manipulating? Ogbonkogbon wa lowo iwo omo yi sha. Emi lo fe lo fun. I no be mumu o. I'll spare you. I honestly know you've got no clue.  Igbo Kwenu!
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blackchief (m)
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I don't know why pple are making all the noise about what chxta said, but i do know this; 1. one day illegal business would be brought to an end. 2.more educate pple will go into business in Nigeria as the govt. job stop coming.
the question then would be what happen to these group of person that have refuse to go to school and must have become used to quick money and too old to learn a new new trade. only then would the gravity of what chxta said would make sense to the sensable.
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Nutter (m)
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I'm not going to let you manipulate me. I'm too smart for you, dude! That, like all the other points you have raised, is highly debatable  I don't only have a list, I also have a URL link. Then show us. You have previously agreed that indeed Yorubas probably top the list but you brought it down with the assertion that it's due to government contracts. You said that, didn't you? I made it clear that there is a marked difference between genuine entrepreneurship (which is what we are talking about) and political jobbing. Now, if your list is composed of genuine entrepreneurs, why hesitate to post it? Have you lost all confidence in the list now that I have clarified the difference between those who sweat to make something out of nothing and those who wait for crumbs to fall off Baba Iyabo's table?  From my previous post, I threw up a challenge. I said post a list of notable Igbo entrepreneurs, then I will post mine, so ma twist e. Question: Did you ask me for a list BEFORE I asked you for same? Do not try to invert the process my dear man. You are beginning to look desperate  . Thank goodness the posts we make are all timed and all forumites can read the goings-on for themselves. Else, you'd have been arguing that you asked me for a list before I asked you for one. So, ma twist e. Ogbonkogbon wa lowo iwo omo yi sha. Emi lo fe lo fun. Ha, ha, ha. If you like, invoke SANGO sef. You never start. I will keep you in the hole you have dug for yourself. Anu ofia! I'll spare you. I honestly know you've got no clue.  Igbo Kwenu! No, no, no. Don't spare me. Stay and prove yourself right if you can. Are you now looking for an easy exit from the mess you created? Not so fast, mate! Show us that list that you have if fear no dey catch you. I am led to believe that the list you think upholds your argument is full of political jobbers who have never done an honest day's work in their lives. People who would sooner eat their own young than uphold the basic tenets of integrity. It's these people you want to use and pose here? Go on then. Post that list make I finish you. Nonsense and ingredients.
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Skidoc (m)
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Is that what you took ages to post?  Don't you even know these people yourself? Make a list of top entrepreneurs in Nigeria yourself and see what you've got. I'm still standing by my challenge. Go back and read the posts. I challenged you first! One thing is that you have neither accepted nor denied the fact that you have no list. You are dodging. I know that what you want is for me to post my list then you bring everybody on the list down BUT you won't post any list, and that's not what I want. I want us to compare the lists and see if what Otokx and I said is true or not. You should first admit that you have no list. Ha, ha, ha. If you like, invoke SANGO sef. You never start. I will keep you in the hole you have dug for yourself. Anu ofia!
wow! I thought you understood Yoruba with the little you typed previously. What I typed was not a curse or incantation ok? I'm not invoking anything o! It simply means in summary "You are trying to manipulate me". You are the one in the hole, not me. Because I know what I'm talking about and you don't.
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