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Sagamite (m)
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education?
« #96 on: October 29, 2009, 12:51 AM »

Quote from: oyinda. on October 29, 2009, 12:32 AM
yeah i do agree with u that there are other factors that play a big role. even more than education sef. and they are all related really. countries with better health systems, less crime are more likely to have a better education system etc.
so i do agree with u on that

Yep. You are on point.
Nijasingh
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education?
« #97 on: October 29, 2009, 01:22 AM »

I agree Asian Education is better than western --the only reason Asians come to the West is to use their education to earn more rewards--financial and research facilities. Africans do for the same reasons!!

Nigerian education is also very good and you can see the results in the high number of qualified Naija people making it in all subjects in the west. The only problem is the fairly recent downturn of Nigerian Universities ( in the last 12-15 years) due to underfunding by Government. This is however being offset by the private universities coming up in Naija!! They are the future of good quality education in Nigeria. Why spend so much to study in the west when private Universities in Naija are much cheaper and even better!! Asian IT colleges are now opening campuses in Ghana.

Education in Asia and Africa (especially Nigeria and Ghana) is very important to us.

Most western companies even prefer to employ graduates from outside western Universities if they want hardworking researchers.
oyinda. (f)
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education?
« #98 on: October 29, 2009, 03:51 AM »

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This is however being offset by the private universities coming up in Naija!!

yeah we definitely need that.
davidif (m)
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education?
« #99 on: October 29, 2009, 02:13 PM »

Quote from: Nijasingh on October 29, 2009, 01:22 AM
I agree Asian Education is better than western --the only reason Asians come to the West is to use their education to earn more rewards--financial and research facilities. Africans do for the same reasons!!

Nigerian education is also very good and you can see the results in the high number of qualified Naija people making it in all subjects in the west. The only problem is the fairly recent downturn of Nigerian Universities ( in the last 12-15 years) due to underfunding by Government. This is however being offset by the private universities coming up in Naija!! They are the future of good quality education in Nigeria. Why spend so much to study in the west when private Universities in Naija are much cheaper and even better!! Asian IT colleges are now opening campuses in Ghana.

Education in Asia and Africa (especially Nigeria and Ghana) is very important to us.

Most western companies even prefer to employ graduates from outside western Universities if they want hardworking researchers.

My friend, after doing more research, i would have to admit that Western education is waaaaaaay ahead of Asian education, its not even close. Asian schools are only good for just a bachelors. The bachelors program at the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) or China's Tsinghua University is brutal compared to even MIT or Caltech. For more proof, just look at this year's Nobel prize winners, all of them except one woman ( the lady who won for physiology and medicine) who is a researcher at Israel's Weizermann institute. The difference between the Asian schools and the western schools starts at the graduate level (masters and PhD level) because the Asians are still far behind in the level of research that western schools do. The only research institutes/universities that can compete with western schools are the Israeli schools i listed like the Technion Institute or Weizermann Institute. Sorry for misleading anyone sha, the reason i started it was partly to educate our people that if they couldn't afford to go to the west, instead of going to Ghana why not go to malaysia, singapore or India where you can get a much MUCH MUCH BETTER education.

Also, on your assertion that there is no need spending all that money to go to school in the West, omo na lie ooooooo. If you have the money YOU BETTER FIND YOUR WAY TO A STANFORD OR A UC BERKELEY because the gap between those schools and the ones in naija is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo   wide its not even funny. Just go and ask any naija boy who went from OAU to any good school in yanki, they would tell you the difference is very very very clear. Nigerian professors are EXTREMELY HORRIBLE and as bad as the public universities are, THE PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES ARE MUCH MUCH MUCH WORSE. I hope that you would one day have the opportunity to come to yanki then you would truly, truly understand how wide the gulf is between our schools and there schools. So my guy, even if you have the cash, you better find your way over here.
Nijasingh
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education?
« #100 on: October 30, 2009, 02:40 AM »

Quote from: davidif on October 29, 2009, 02:13 PM
My friend, after doing more research, i would have to admit that Western education is waaaaaaay ahead of Asian education, its not even close. Asian schools are only good for just a bachelors. The bachelors program at the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) or China's Tsinghua University is brutal compared to even MIT or Caltech. But where the drop off starts of is at the graduate level (masters and PhD level) because the Asians are still far behind in the level of research that western schools do. The only research institutes/universities that can compete with western schools are the Israeli schools i listed like the Technion Institute or Weizermann Institute. Sorry for misleading anyone sha, the reason i started it was partly to educate our people that if they couldn't afford to go to the west, instead of going to Ghana why not go to malaysia, singapore or India where you can get a much MUCH MUCH BETTER education.


David, I agree with what you say regarding education at research level--Masters and Doctorate etc. That is why I said  the reason why Asians and Africans come to the west is Research and Financial !! As for professors in both Asia and Nigeria, I have great respect for them as they work with limited resources and facilities. Give them the same as in the west and see what they can do. That is why quite a few top researchers in the west are from Asia and Africa. The government in Ghana funds its universities better but then they have much fewer than Nigeria.Private universities or corporate universities are the answer to funding in Africa and Asia.
SEFAGO (m)
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education?
« #101 on: October 30, 2009, 02:49 AM »

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That is why quite a few top researchers in the west are from Asia and Africa

I think only asia,
davidif (m)
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education?
« #102 on: October 30, 2009, 04:07 AM »

Quote from: SEFAGO on October 30, 2009, 02:49 AM
I think only asia,

Me too. I don't see any Africans working for top level research labs like Bell Labs and co.
SEFAGO (m)
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education?
« #103 on: October 30, 2009, 04:56 AM »

there are so many asians at the top that I can't even use the excuse of discrimination to describe the paucity of africans in such positions
chic2pimp (m)
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education?
« #104 on: October 30, 2009, 05:41 AM »

Quote from: SEFAGO on October 30, 2009, 04:56 AM
there are so many asians at the top that I can't even use the excuse of discrimination to describe the paucity of africans in such positions
True Talk. Asian Americans are indeed the 'Model Minority'
tensor777 (m)
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education?
« #105 on: October 30, 2009, 01:59 PM »

Taking into consideration the  varied opportunities for personal development and skills acquisition that are available in a country like America, there really is no contest.

Furthermore, institutions like Harvard,Princeton and MIT are world leaders in terms of original scentific research and development. This coupled with generous funding enables them to attract talented researchers from all over the world.

As oyinda rightly said it really should not  just be about observing the high academic performance of the priviledged minority of students from countries like India and concluding therefrom the Indian education stystem,for instance, is better than that of any Western country.
davidif (m)
Re: Asian Education: Better Than Western Education?
« #106 on: October 30, 2009, 03:20 PM »

Quote from: chic2pimp on October 30, 2009, 05:41 AM
True Talk. Asian Americans are indeed the 'Model Minority'

For real my brother. In  fact, i think the words asian and excellence should be synonymous with each other.


Quote from: Nijasingh on October 30, 2009, 02:40 AM
David, I agree with what you say regarding education at research level--Masters and Doctorate etc. That is why I said  the reason why Asians and Africans come to the west is Research and Financial !! As for professors in both Asia and Nigeria, I have great respect for them as they work with limited resources and facilities. Give them the same as in the west and see what they can do. That is why quite a few top researchers in the west are from Asia and Africa. The government in Ghana funds its universities better but then they have much fewer than Nigeria.Private universities or corporate universities are the answer to funding in Africa and Asia.

Hardly any naija professor ever does research, all they know how to do is to bang female students. Not all research must be done in million dollar facilities like the Lawrence Livermore National laboratory, you can just do basic research on areas like rural agriculture or other issues affecting naija. Our schools are basically known as cramming institutions instead of research institutions: rote memorization is the order of the day, instead of analyzing problems and solving them. Nigerians seem to confuse "hardness" of the material (or syllabus) to learning which is very sad. The fact that 50% of the students fails a class doesn't necessarily mean that the school itself is very good or that the school is the best, it might mean that the professors are incredibly incompetent. Also, simply, because you can write 20 fullscap sheets of paper on exam day doesn't mean that you are intelligent, it just means that you know how to cram, simple as that. This is why we need to revamp our educational system to be more focused on problem solving so that we can compete with the Brazillians, Chinese, Indians and later on the Americans.

I am not saying that rote memorization (cramming) is bad. It is necessary in primary school and even in secondary school because there are some things you need to memorize like formulas and the times table or other basic theories in junior secondary school but in university there should be a transition to applying those theories to solving real problems. Also in a country like naija where most teachers don't know what they are teaching and therefore cannot properly explain certain concepts to the students like arcane concepts in geography like "lacustrine plains" or more popular ones like Newton's Laws of Motion, then cramming might not be necessary.
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