To lie is a sin whether big or small, white or black. Can there be any lawyer on earth without lie?

Impossible. That's how lawyers get their money, mostly lying. If they were to tell the truth, they won't earn any money.

Lawyers stop lying and stop loosing your customers.

They can't operate without lying.
It's like ball with air any use?

Hey, I'm here to stand up for the attorney's!

They do not all lie, just like not all politicians are evil (to begin with, at least) and not all car salesmen are con artists!

The question should be "Why do SOME attorneys find that lying is the best avenue of success?"

Where are the lawyers in the house?

young lawyer u say

I am not an attorney but I've been working as a paralegal for 4 years. The ones I work for (16) have shown nothing but strict professionalism and practice by a code of ethics not to be ignored. Someone's gotta stand up for them

It seems as if their kind is not being represented.

Its pretty difficult but possible.
It all boils down to clients money, money, money.
If Lawyers decided to be truthful. They'll have to screen clients which means less job.

It would also depend on what, exactly, you practice.

Prosecutors do not worry about "money, money, money" seeing as though they work for the government and already have a set salary.

Also, there is contract law, environmental law, family court law, social services law, free law clinics. Attorney's practicing in these fields make money but not all lie in order to win. The facts speak for themselves.

Umm. . all this talk about lawyers lying. . . give me an example. what do you mean by lawyers lie? Kids lie too.

seuntech:

To lie is a sin whether big or small, white or black. Can there be any lawyer on earth without lie?

there is nobody on this earth without a lie. not even you Mr. OP.

Lawyers are liars.

They just can't help but tell the truth as they want it to be.

It is widely believed that lawyers are liars which is a lie in itself.

The notion that lawyers lie is predicated on the misconception of facts which in most cases are hidden from most people. The only one who can determine the truth or otherwise of a particular situation is God who is omnipresent and sees all.

Be that as it may, since God cannot visit the earth and speak to everybody on who is lying and saying the truth at a particular point in time, lawyers are trained to maintain law and order and instil the concept of justice in human relations. They do this by using evidence be it circumstantial or documentary to guide them therefore there is a tendency for some people to say that a lawyer is lying even when the truth is obvious.

The fact is that between you and I who were not present at the time of the event, one of us must still decide the innocent and guilty or victim.

However, technicalities of law tilt the scale of justice sometimes and that is why we have appeals.

Lawyers are not liars, they are only working within the established rules and regulations stipulated by the people.

Delarontus thumbs up you hit the nail on the Head!

Its only the uninformed who make such statements

Hit the nail on the head!. I disagree!! The nail is bent.

Truth is, not all lawyers are liars but most [b]criminal law[/b]yers are. They merely use loopholes within the law to create a false impression of the reality.
An armed robber comes to u to defend him. Despite seein d overwhelming evidence and hearing his confession, you still agree to represent him. U get to court and plead "not guilty". For heaven's sake what r u trying to do. No matter how diplomatic u are. A LIE is still a LIE. There's no such thing as a good lie.
The truth is a lot of lawyers know that the client committed the crime but still go ahead to defend him. All u hear in the court room is "Not Guilty". I see them as liars and that wicked cos u pervert the justice u r supposed to uphold.

layi,
There are rules to be followed in obtaining a conviction, the law is about following the laid down procedure, judicial precedent and legal requirements that are on all fours with the matter to guide the court in reaching a decision. Its too If the other side cant present their matter within the context of those rules, then who is to blame if they lose.

This is a tired old argument which no side ever concedes, i have said my piece, please feel free to think what you wish

@klex
If the lawyers win a case by carefully manipulating laws and beating the 'innocent' at it, it still doesnt change the lie to a truth. The fact remains: this man is guilty and u r proving it to d jury that he's innocent which is a lie.

klex:

...... i have said my piece, please feel free to think what you wish

u need not tell me this. Afterall i made my posts under no duress. Thanks anyway.

well, I don't know about Nigeria but in the united states there is the idea the everyone is entitled to be represented. I'm sure that in Nigeria, if I was reasonably powerful, rich, and smart, I could set something up where you would think that a person commited a crime that they actually didn't. Also, in the US, it is presumed that everyone is Innocent until proven Guilty. Also, they must be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Furthermore, the means in which they are found guilty must be just, fair, and correct. If the police beat someone to get a confession, that "loophole" cannot be allowed to exist. If the prosecution does something that has some issues on how legal it is or how much it conforms to the law, we should allow them to continue using it so we can jail people we "think" are criminals? There is a limit to how far you can trust a person in power to do their job justly. That is why we have so many checks and balances - police, prosecutors, lawyers, legislators, judges, and the general populace - we are the final check because ultimately we will decide in which direction we want things to go - if we care enough and can stop fighting each other to do so.

personally, i think almost everyone who has posted here has been watching too much matlock or something, i for one think that real law as practised, is a lot less far-fetched than as you guys imagine it to be.

As for the 4 years of working intricately with attorney's the only lie I've heard was from a defense attorney who was trying to cover his bum. It did nothing in the way of swaying the verdict of the trial.

To get a precise answer for this, I think that someone should check out the statistics. Something like how many lawyers out of 100 speaks the truth? I'm almost sure that number will not exceed 30 and that's not a good one. So my question is...... Why should we study something that leaves us with no other option but lying most of the time?
Lawyers in the house, pls don't get me wrong cos I still have much love for u all.

Please, por la amor de dios, stop with the lawyers are liars until you give good examples of what you mean. As far as I'm concerned, nobody has yet to give any good statements backing up these sentiments. That being the case, arguments are currently invalid. What do you mean lawyer's are liars? Like I said, everyone lies. It doesn't stop you from doing what you do? Why is it a problem that people who become lawyers lie too? Personally, I would be more affronted by politicians and presidents lying than lawyers. . but that's Nigerians for you.

Thank you my dear sister (delarontus) nobody in this forum is talking sense except Delaroutus she answer all the question

i talked sense too     

lawyers aren't liars.

Lawyers are liars just like most of us.( or rather everyone )

There is no technique to separate lies from lawyers.

Apology Vexxy.

That's alright. We shall agree to disagree.

It is better that way.

My judgement is biased cos l've never meet a lawyer who doesn't lie. So, it is impossible for one to practice law with some lying. Oh let's not call it Lies, it's just twisting the truth and put in another way, and of course it's part of the profession.

Well let me introduce you, razor, to the 16 integrity filled attorney's I work with

In dealing with these attorneys I have faith that an attorney can practice law without lying. They do it all day. In my dealings with the prosecution, privacy, freedom of information, contracts and acquisitions, labor/employment, and construction lawyers that make up my office, I can fully and boldly state that that these fine men and women practice law with the utmost integrity. I only wish you knew them. Undecided

I have, however, seen a lot of criminal justice attorney's stretch the truth. See, also I think it's because whether these guys win or lose they still get paid the same amount. Other attorney's who only make money if the client wins are more prone to look for loop holes in the law. That's still not considered lying but they look for the easy way out.