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fekuti
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rever you f-ucking caitiff, you're a fool
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Reverend (m)
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Marriage is nothing more than a piece of Government paper. Linking sex to such a thing is stupid. Have sex when you feel like it. Do not listen to religious bigot's who tell you it is a sin. A sin against who? and what? There are too many people out there trying to control your feelings and actions. They should get on with their own lives. Sex is one of the most wonderful things we can experience. Marriage is a man made ceremony, which is out of date in todays World. Have sex whenever you feel like it and enjoy yourself  Stop applying man made rules to your lives and only then you will be truly free  @Fekuti Just because you are frustrated, no need to swear 
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fekuti
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i'm in the least bit frustrated, i'm only pointing out your dim-wittedness. you're devoid of even a single particle of decency & your reasoning is skewed.
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Reverend (m)
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What has having sex before marriage got to do with decency? So people who have sex without having a piece of signed paper are indecent? You take you brainwashed view because of a book of fairy stories (the Bible) written and re-written by man to control people seems to tell you that sex before marriage is wrong? That an invisible man who lives above the clouds and watches everything we do wont like it and will send us to burn in a special place he has called hell? The same guy that is supposed to love us? The almighty, all knowing God who watches everyone of us, every hour of the day. By this standard the God that must be watching billions of people all over the World having sex. He has not done anything to stop them. Just like he did nothing to prevent six million jews being murdered in WWII or 500,000 people being killied in a tsunami. That is becuase he does not exist. Dim-witted views as you call them are normally derived from the Bible (the book of fairy stories) Keep the Bible and all Gods out of you bedroom and then you can start living life to the full and only then can you be free. I do not think of God when I am having sex. I do not even think of him when I am not having sex. The reason why is simple, HE IS NOT THERE  So, those of you with free minds, cast of the shackles of man made religions, their manipulative rules and regulations. Live meaningful, sexually fulfilling lives based on reason and compassion. KEEP CRAZY RELIGION OUT OF THE BEDROOM have sex when you feel like it 
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fekuti
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What has having sex before marriage got to do with decency? So people who have sex without having a piece of signed paper are indecent? You proved me right, thank Almighty! I knew you were slow in the head. No son, going about saying premarital sex is a necessity is an outstanding characteristic of a barbarian. You take you brainwashed view because of a book of fairy stories (the Bible) written and re-written by man to control people seems to tell you that sex before marriage is wrong? Try again, this time post something sensible. Try inducing sound logic. Maybe you'll come to understand that I am yet to make a statement with regards to the topic at hand. Why are you so irate by the way, all I wrote was approximately 2 lines, and here you are responding with a 20-page editorial. That the invisible man who live above the clouds and watches everything we do wont like it and will send us to burn in a special place he has called hell? The same guy that is supposed to love us? What has your anti-christ agenda got to do with me terming you a scum, which is what you are. The almighty, all knowing God who watches everyone of us So you know this. Dim-witted views as you call them are normally derived from the Bible (the book of fairy stories) That's good to know, but I'm not interested in dim-witted views, though it seems that's all you have to offer. I pretty much called you a buffoon, get it? Dim-wit Keep the Bible and all Gods out of you bedroom and then you can start living life to the full and only then can you be free. You're preaching The Satanic Times to the wrong crowd, bloke. I do not think of God when I am having sex. I do not even think of him when I am not having sex.
The reason why is simple, HE IS NOT THERE Are you always this contradictory? You're fulla rebuttals. You do not think of God when you're not having sex, you claim. Yet you're here ranting about the said God that you do not think of. You'll grow up some day. G-night
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Reverend (m)
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@Fekuta
You are one sexually frustrated religious bigot.
How you have the nerve to brand people as animals and scum for having sex before marriage is outrageous, but sadly all too common amongst the uneducated and brainwashed religious freaks we suffer on this forum.
I am pretty sure that you were writing your reply with your right hand and pulling your plonker with your left hand.
I am not angry with you for your personal attacks only saddened that one more sexually frustrated and manipulated religious slave feels the need to go around branding everyone a sinner.
As for the Satanic Times, I think that you must be the chief editor.
Oh well one day when you grow up into a big boy, all will become apparent and maybe you will start to live your life based on common sense and not on the ramblings of the book of fairy stories.
Then you will finally realise that you also can experience sex outside the confines of the church as with people other than your pastor.
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fekuti
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You are one sexually frustrated religious bigot. You are one befuddled, delusional, xenophobe How you have the nerve to brand people as animals and scum for having sex before marriage is outrageous I wouldn't dare. Child you ought to know better. but sadly all too common amongst the uneducated and brainwashed religious freaks we suffer on this forum. And sadly you're one. Speaking of education(or in your case lack there of), you're putting on quite a sorrowful, lugubrious, sad display of your intelligence I am pretty sure that you were writing your reply with your right hand and pulling your plonker with your left hand. only a gay, immature, dyslexic, perverted, indecent, lowlife swine would think that. You're clearly one. Erase me from your homo-erotic fantasies I am not angry with you for your personal attacks That's almost flattering & consoling, but mind you, I on the other hand am saddened that you want to drool on my f-ucking shaft you bloody wanker. only saddened that one more sexually frustrated and manipulated religious slave feels the need to go around branding everyone a sinner. Have you swallowed your pills this morning. As for the Satanic Times, I think that you must be the chief editor. That's just a figment of your faggoted imagination. Then you will finally realise that you also can experience sex outside the confines of the church as with people other than your pastor. Ohhhhhh, you mean the way you experience sex with the members of your kinky supposed-church, you stupid dolt. From here on out, silence befits your foolishness you hobo. fool at 40, what a pity.
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Reverend (m)
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You are so funny and an excellent example of why we have so much trouble in the world. It is laughable that you feel the need to swear and bandi insults in your replies. As for drooling on your shaft, I think your pastor probably makes a good job of that on his own.  From here on out, silence befits your foolishness you hobo. That is all I ask for, silence from you,  Thank you. Now you don't have to write answers anymore, you have both hands free for your plonker your pastor and maybe your brothers and sisters? 
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Reverend (m)
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Sex is important for the following reasons: 1. Sex is "essential" There is a natural instinct or need (akin to a hunger for food) which we all have, and that to repress it is damaging to physical and mental health. 2. Sex is an "experience" It is beneficial for people to accumulate as many different experiences of life as possible. Pre-marital sex with several different partners is said to be one of these experiences. Sex is "exciting" and is seen by some as an essential component. 3. Sex is an "experiment" It is no longer sufficient for a couple to be emotionally, spiritually or intellectually compatible. If they are really serious about each other they ought to discover whether they are sexually compatible too. In the context of cohabitation, this is sometimes seen as a "trial marriage". 4. Sex is an "expression" If two people love each other it is seen as natural for them to express that love through sex, regardless of their marital state. Premarital sex does not exist, SEX EXISTS  Enjoy
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unit (f)
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Being able to use your mind to control your body is a sign that a man has attained a certain level of maturity. The fact that you feel like having sex and have the freedom to doesn't mean you should. Living life like that just makes us a little less than the animals in the wild.It makes a big joke of all our scientific and technological advancement to live like animals with no control over feelings. I'd have to say no to premarital sex.I believe in the marriage institution and the African culture that frowns at premarital sex. Lastly i believe in the teachings of the bible which says no to premarital sex.God might be invisible or non-existent to some people but to me He is the small voice that tells me not to let any man have his way with me cause he will just use and dump me(if he wants me so bad he can as well pay my dowry) and am grateful to that voice of God.
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debosky (m)
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so if he wants you so bad he should marry you so he can screw you?
its really sad that women still think that once they are married that solves everything.
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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I'd have to say no to premarital sex.I believe in the marriage institution and the African culture that frowns at premarital sex,
\ The same African culture where most families require the man to test the woman's fertility before the marriage rites are done?
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I-man (m)
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with 70% of the world's HIV infection,I don't understand why we still think we are on a higher moral plane than the West
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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People sure enjoy that island, Denial.
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fekuti
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with 70% of the world's HIV infection,I don't understand why we still think we are on a higher moral plane than the West Yes, I personally believe that we are. HIV stats do not establish morale.
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debosky (m)
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so what does it establish? promiscuity?
keep living in the delusion, the same 'African culture' doesn't believe in condoms and believes that sleeping with little kids cures the virus, yet millions keep dying yearly and we still hold on to the same lies.
'African culture' doesn't support it yet it supports polygamy and co right?
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fekuti
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keep living in the delusion, the same 'African culture' doesn't believe in condoms and believes that sleeping with little kids cures the virus, yet millions keep dying yearly and we still hold on to the same lies.
'African culture' doesn't support it yet it supports polygamy and co right? when were you born, why don't you go in front of a panel of reasonable audience and tell them "due to the 70% hiv spread of the africans, they're immoral people." that's insanely asinine. delusion abi whatever you want to call it, be my guest. I'm yet to read where it says "African culture doesn't believe in condoms." That statement is more religion-driven than it is cultural. don't just come out here speculating. if you read these things somewhere, or there's a declaration somewhere kindly paste the links. Going by hearsay is very daft. You'd literally have to be a 2-year-old, or an illiterate to believe that sleeping with little kids cures the HIV virus. Once again, this is about morality not a phuckin virus.
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debosky (m)
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when was I born? refrain from personal attacks and discuss the issue at hand
I never concluded that because of 70% of AIDS infections then we are 'immoral', but it seems a tad unreasonable to me to maintain this claim of moral superiority (in sexual issues) in spite of this 70% figure, when you take into account the predominantly sexual nature of its transmission in Africa.
many African groups do not believe in condoms 'culturally', it is only through foreign introduction of these things is it becoming accepted.
concerning the child rape issue, it is a local (i.e 'un-imported') practice in SA, doesn't it then qualify as 'cultural'? I don't know about being a 2 yr old or not, but if a whole VP of the most advanced African nation believed that by having a shower after sex with an HIV positive lady he would be immune (no condom use), I leave you to make up your mind on that one.
you have not stated the source of your beliefs, you claim they are personal, well I personally believe that these claims of being morally superior are false for the most part. there are very few traits (apart from genetic) that can lead anyone to speak of a single/unified so called 'African' culture - different sub groups are very distinct, with widely different practices. some would definitely be more sexually open than others, maybe based on the knowledge of your own particular tribe you can claim this moral superiority, but please no blatant generalizations on this nebulous 'Africam culture'
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fekuti
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when was I born? refrain from personal attacks and discuss the issue at hand That wasn't a personal attack at all, it was a sincere question, i was curious. I never concluded that because of 70% of AIDS infections then we are 'immoral', but it seems a tad unreasonable to me to maintain this claim of moral superiority (in sexual issues) in spite of this 70% figure moral superiority in sexual issues ---------ah now you're talking, since you've clarified that, I agree with you completely. We're most certainly not living in the Victorian era where women especially are sean as pure/perfect. when you take into account the predominantly sexual nature of its transmission in Africa. Yes, it is very alarming, but that's not the problem at all, people are having sex everywhere all over the world, it's just unfortunate that the virus is pretty much all over the continent of Africa, almost no one is safe from contacting HIV. many African groups do not believe in condoms 'culturally', it is only through foreign introduction of these things is it becoming accepted. I still don't understand this, what groups are these? Let me share this quote with you "If you don't know the forest, you will come to fear the forest." - people usually don't adhere to things they have no knowledge of. Based on intuition, this might be the reason, or as I stated earlier, it could be motivated by religion. Come to think of it, it is Africa we're speaking of here isn't it? A continent filled with labeled "third-world countries" concerning the child rape issue, it is a local (i.e 'un-imported') practice in SA, doesn't it then qualify as 'cultural'? No, it doesn't. Let's just say the people are "improperly" informed. I don't know about being a 2 yr old or not, but if a whole VP of the most advanced African nation believed that by having a shower after sex with an HIV positive lady he would be immune (no condom use), I leave you to make up your mind on that one. I'd like to know how this idiot became a VP. how does someone in their right mind think showers cure HIV, ooooh goodness, it's a miracle. you have not stated the source of your beliefs, you claim they are personal, well I personally believe that these claims of being morally superior are false for the most part. there are very few traits (apart from genetic) that can lead anyone to speak of a single/unified so called 'African' culture - different sub groups are very distinct, with widely different practices. some would definitely be more sexually open than others, maybe based on the knowledge of your own particular tribe you can claim this moral superiority, but please no blatant generalizations on this nebulous 'Africam culture' actually, there is no such thing as moral superiority, but there are certain standards and beliefs as a person growing up, in a certain society, that dictates the way I conduct/carry myself, that's why I see some things done in the western culture and say oh, "that's unethical" or no "that's immoral" No, I wouldn't claim that there's a unified African culture, there might be certain aspects of our cultures that we share in common, but there is no uniformity. when the FP made his post I had to assume something being that Nigerians predominate this board. Overall morality isn't based on sexuality though, but I do still feel that we aren't as sexually promiscuous/open as our western counterparts, I definitely wouldn't call it sexual morality. compare Nigeria to America for example, how many "fa.gs" do you see walking about the streets acting femminine, how many couples do you see cuddling out in the open without feeling insecure, etc, things might have changed now, but it's certainly not as prevalent as it is in America, or etc,
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puker (m)
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Sex is the wheel that drives marraige because reproduction is important. How would you know if ya partner is impotent or frigid. God will forgive you if you try to make sure. But its important so tat we don't end up having too many divorcees because if you o make sure na him be say you don become divrcee o!
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nekan (m)
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fekuti:sometimes ago i heard that the Catholic church preached against the use of condoms.those are not africans.whats your view about that.As for the VP u can not disregard his opinion totally, i have also heard something close to that,just as u must have come to know that CONDOM is not 100% garanttee against HIV.for men it has been medically proven that we might not get infected even if we have sex with a carrier,the danger in our own case is not to have any bruises so as not to create an opening for the virus to get in.the skin protect the virus from infecting easily.so if we do proper cleaning of our body and THING we can wash off the virus off our skin.but how sure are we that we would not suffer any wound.
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fekuti
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fekuti:sometimes ago i heard that the Catholic church preached against the use of condoms.those are not africans.whats your view about that
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clemcykul
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hey girl, even a toddler knows how bad premarital sex is, and i believe u know how detrimental it is to your physical, cycological, and spritual health even though you are not spiritual. i bliv evryone is accountable for his conduct, the world is free, if you feel its okay with you, just go ahead.but if common sense 'though it aint common" says girl its bad for you, u had better pay head. one more thing avoid provocative and tempting situations for best result. I stil maintain my opinion flee fornication lest u wallow in dismay and regret because nothing good emits from premarital sex. the amusing aspect is that u wont be the last the guy will bed. Just bet your last dollar on that, that is if uve ever seen one.
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karli4nia (m)
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well, from the christian perspestive we should aall know its outside the framework of our faith. but in practical terms we can't trust ourselves somtimes. we can agree tha at some point in our lives we fall.Remember the Apostle paul wrote to the Romans that the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.I guess only a consistent walk with the holy spirit can be a wayout with all the revolution in the world. well just trying to be a little practical.
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elnaf
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To me premarital sex ain't o.k . To be frank the greatest gift a woman can give 2 her marraige pair is Virginity. What pist! me most is seeing living lovers (acting husband & wife) and the contrary happens when ther are married
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laurelly
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Re: Premarital Sex is Not OK! « #2 on: May 04, 2005, 07:00 AM » First of all, I agree with quicksilver 100% about the hierarchy rule. There has to be the deflowerers, the dumpers and the pickers like Mr Admin.
It might interest you to know that it's proven fact that Ladies enjoy sex more than men do and they are partly responsible for all the premarital sex act. Besides, most girls will think you're impotent if you don't prove yourself early in the relationship.)
u know mamba, sinse the beginning of time, man has has always had the tendency to shift the blame to the woman :as in the case of adam and eve. adam could have stood his ground and refused to eat the forbidden fruit [after all he is the MAN]. so please don't try to blame ladies for "all the premarital sex".you ere given the will power to make a firm decision and abide by it. no matter what guy like you say about virgins like us, we will proudly remain so.
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waterworks (f)
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so we are assuming seun is still a virgin because after that long speech we wont want him to be acught having or ever had premarital sex! so hows that celibacy working for you?
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laurelly
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so we are assuming seun is still a virgin because after that long speech we wont want him to be acught having or ever had premarital sex! so hows that celibacy working for you?
waterworks,if you want to know if seun is a virgin, why don't you ask him and save yourself the trouble of trying to hide your curiousity behind your assumption. i can see you are short of work that you have decided to stand as seun's watchman, watching for when he is caught in the act. i don't know about you, but that sure does sound to me like "busybody"
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tRoOE (f)
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The truth is 99.9 of Nairalander are not a virgin, and those that claims to be have engaged in other sexual activities, like oral and oral, so why are we sitting here preaching premarital sex isn't acceptable, who are your to judge other what they do in their private life’s, speaking of pretenders.
One thing I love about my mom is, she will never discourage or preacher sex is bad and it’s a sin, but will rather tell speak her mind by explaining some of the consequences I will have to face if I have face and when am ready to do so, I should come to her for more advice.
Your might be thinking if am sexual active, well it’s none of your damn business
LOL did i hear someone say the greatest gift a women can give her husband is her virginity lol and what will I get in return.
A man got to love and marry me for who I am and not by my sexual statue 
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almondjoy (f)
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@Topic! It is very sweet I say. . . . . .especially if your pastor screws you real good at night vigils! 
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tRoOE (f)
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Lmfao Aj you are very silly
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