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A_K_O (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #32 on: August 11, 2008, 05:35 PM »

Oyinye2 may I crave your indulgence to define your own idea of 'judging'.


mazaje (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #33 on: August 11, 2008, 05:38 PM »

Quote from: madamkoko on August 11, 2008, 05:34 PM
@ mazaje: doesn't look like my post.

I don't use the bible to support arguments.

I just want to know if you believe that the bible is the word of god or the words of men and if you believe in any religion.
onyinye2 (f)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #34 on: August 11, 2008, 05:39 PM »

Quote from: A_K_O on August 11, 2008, 05:35 PM
Oyibye2 may I crave your indulgence to define your own definition of 'judging'.
First off it is "Onyinye" oka thanx.
Second off my interpretation of "judging" forming an my opinion on people.
madamkoko
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #35 on: August 11, 2008, 05:40 PM »

Bible is the words of men.
huxley (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #36 on: August 11, 2008, 05:41 PM »

Quote from: $$Rhino on August 11, 2008, 05:24 PM
Leviticus 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Do not make a mistake, God loves even those that are practicing homosexualism, but hates the deeds.

I don't think it is on this basis that homosexuality is condemned.  If it is truly an abomination, there must surely be more than this. 
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #37 on: August 11, 2008, 05:43 PM »

Quote from: madamkoko on August 11, 2008, 05:40 PM
Bible is the words of men.

IF i give a paper and a pen and to write a letter on my behalf to someone and i gave you the words to write down, and you post the letter, who would they say  sent the letter, would it be you or the owner of the words.
Bible is a word of God, inspired by HIm and penned by men.
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #38 on: August 11, 2008, 05:45 PM »

Quote from: huxley on August 11, 2008, 05:41 PM
I don't think it is on this basis that homosexuality is condemned. If it is truly an abomination, there must surely be more than this.

That is just one, there are so many in the bible, and like i said, for God to be so mad and destroy a whole city because of it, that means, God don't joke with it.
A_K_O (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #39 on: August 11, 2008, 05:45 PM »

***offtopic, please forgive me***

See how Seun sharply responded to and locked this thread; chei

Fatwa no be small thin oh!
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-159114.0.html
huxley (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #40 on: August 11, 2008, 05:47 PM »

Quote from: $$Rhino on August 11, 2008, 05:45 PM
That is just one, there are so many in the bible, and like i said, for God to be so mad and destroy a whole city because of it, that means, God don't joke with it.

I don't believe any of this.  Show me the evidence in the bible.  Condemnation in one verse is not enough?  Or, is it?
madamkoko
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #41 on: August 11, 2008, 05:48 PM »

How can it be the word of God if its been edited over and over again.  

There are many mistakes and errors in the bible.

Plus there are too many versions, creating too much confusion.  "God is not a God of confusion"

Aramaic
Greek
Hebrew
NIV
KJV
Christain English
English standard
blah
blah
blah
mazaje (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #42 on: August 11, 2008, 05:48 PM »

Quote from: A_K_O on August 11, 2008, 05:45 PM
***offtopic, please forgive me***

See how Seun sharply responded to and locked this thread; chei

Fatwa no be small thin oh!
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-159114.0.html

no be him fault ohh you wan make the mohammad foot soldiers come cut off him head while brandashing their swords and chanting allah is great.
madamkoko
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #43 on: August 11, 2008, 05:49 PM »

@  A_K_O : isnt it because a discussion on the thread already exisits ?
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #44 on: August 11, 2008, 05:51 PM »

Quote from: huxley on August 11, 2008, 05:47 PM
I don't believe any of this. Show me the evidence in the bible. Condemnation in one verse is not enough? Or, is it?

If i have shown u one and u don't blv it, possibilities of you belving after i show u million is equals to zero, however, here is another one
Romans 1:24-32:

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
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32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #45 on: August 11, 2008, 05:52 PM »

Quote from: madamkoko on August 11, 2008, 05:48 PM
How can it be the word of God if its been edited over and over again. 

There are many mistakes and errors in the bible.

Plus there are too many versions, creating too much confusion.  "God is not a God of confusion"

Aramaic
Greek
Hebrew
NIV
KJV
Christain English
English standard
blah
blah
blah
 

Agreed with you on that, and that was why He added somewhere in the bible that no one should add to the word of God, nor taken away from it.
A_K_O (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #46 on: August 11, 2008, 05:53 PM »

Quote from: onyinye2 on August 11, 2008, 05:39 PM
First off it is "Onyinye" oka thanx.

Sorry, an unintentional typo. 'B' is right beside 'N' on your keyboard Wink

Quote from: onyinye2 on August 11, 2008, 05:39 PM
Second off my interpretation of "judging" forming an my opinion on people.

But what is wrong with forming an opinion on people if it's informed? Some people think Seun is biased to appoint one muslim moderator for a religious section that is filled with christians, muslims and atheists. Is that judging?
huxley (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #47 on: August 11, 2008, 05:55 PM »

Quote from: $$Rhino on August 11, 2008, 05:51 PM
If i have shown u one and u don't blv it, possibilities of you belving after i show u million is equals to zero, however, here is another one
Romans 1:24-32:

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
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32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.



OK,  be that as it may, why should we observe these injunctions?   We can just ignore them like the many other injunctions from the bible.   Why is this any special than the others that Christians routinely ignore?
A_K_O (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #48 on: August 11, 2008, 05:56 PM »

***offtopic, please forgive me***

Quote from: madamkoko on August 11, 2008, 05:49 PM
@  A_K_O : isnt it because a discussion on the thread already exisits ?

Discussions of this thread already exist. Yet it is unlocked. Is that not against the rules?  Wink

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-159045.0.html
onyinye2 (f)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #49 on: August 11, 2008, 05:59 PM »

Quote from: A_K_O on August 11, 2008, 05:53 PM
Sorry, an unintentional typo. 'B' is right beside 'N' on your keyboard Wink

But what is wrong with forming an opinion on people if it's informed? Some people think Seun is biased to appoint one muslim moderator for a religious section that is filled with christians, muslims and atheists. Is that judging?
To answer you first question,

Do you enjoy people making judgments on your life?

To answer you second question,

Let me elaborate on my definition on "judging". I'm talking about forming an opinion on people based on one's belief.
A_K_O (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #50 on: August 11, 2008, 06:04 PM »

Quote from: madamkoko on August 11, 2008, 05:40 PM
Bible is the words of men.

Should God have grabbed a pen and paper and written the bible in heaven, then thrown it down to the earth? Obviously no, that's why amongst other reasons, He gave men the ability to write.

@ Topic; one of the ways the devil is confusing the church is by bringing up useless arguments like these when the bible is glaringly clear on them.

That's why he (devil) would get someone as influencial as Oprah Winfrey to give her own idea on 'spirituality', and make it sound as logical and innocent as possible. But it has confused and derailed so many christians. He's quite smart.
Gamine (f)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #51 on: August 11, 2008, 06:07 PM »

Abi ooh
madamkoko
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #52 on: August 11, 2008, 06:10 PM »

Quote
Should God have grabbed a pen and paper and written the bible in heaven, then thrown it down to the earth? Obviously no, that's why amongst other reasons, He gave men the ability to write.

Well then, anyone can argue that God inspired them to write a book. How valid is ur argument really?
huxley (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #53 on: August 11, 2008, 06:12 PM »

Quote from: A_K_O on August 11, 2008, 06:04 PM
Should God have grabbed a pen and paper and written the bible in heaven, then thrown it down to the earth? Obviously no, that's why amongst other reasons, He gave men the ability to write.

@ Topic; one of the ways the devil is confusing the church is by bringing up useless arguments like these when the bible is glaringly clear on them.

That's why he (devil) would get someone as influencial as Oprah Winfrey to give her own idea on 'spirituality', and make it sound as logical and innocent as possible. But it has confused and derailed so many christians. He's quite smart.

I bet, it is angle Michael that inspires Oprah.  Is that not obvious from the decor of her studios and her dress.  It is even possible to see little angels flying about during her appearances if you have got the right glasses.
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #54 on: August 11, 2008, 06:14 PM »

Quote from: madamkoko on August 11, 2008, 06:10 PM
Well then, anyone can argue that God inspired them to write a book. How valid is your argument really?

Tell me any book that has been so much fought against and still standing and being true.
Tell me any book that has been and the event recorded in it has been so real and happening by day.
tell me any authour that will want to write a book and will pen down bad side as much as the bible did.
because God is not a respecter of person.
He has given us all right to chose between the good and the bad.
huxley (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #55 on: August 11, 2008, 06:15 PM »

Can anyone explain why the bible injunction on homosexuality ought to be observed while other laws/commandments are routinely ignored or not heeded?
mazaje (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #56 on: August 11, 2008, 06:16 PM »

Quote from: $$Rhino on August 11, 2008, 06:14 PM
Tell me any book that has been so much fought against and still standing and being true.
Tell me any book that has been and the event recorded in it has been so real and happening by day.
tell me any authour that will want to write a book and will pen down bad side as much as the bible did.
because God is not a respecter of person.
He has given us all right to chose between the good and the bad.

The koran. its the same as the bible. and i will like to know why the koran is wrong and the bible right or vice versa.
huxley (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #57 on: August 11, 2008, 06:18 PM »

Quote from: $$Rhino on August 11, 2008, 06:14 PM
Tell me any book that has been so much fought against and still standing and being true.
Tell me any book that has been and the event recorded in it has been so real and happening by day.
tell me any authour that will want to write a book and will pen down bad side as much as the bible did.
because God is not a respecter of person.
He has given us all right to chose between the good and the bad.

How does any of these mean the book is inspired, whatever that means?

between,  how long do you think the bible as existed as one single book,  or as many disparate books?
A_K_O (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #58 on: August 11, 2008, 06:39 PM »

Quote from: huxley on August 11, 2008, 06:12 PM
It is even possible to see little angels flying about during her appearances if you have got the right glasses.

want to lend me yours? Wink Tongue
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #59 on: August 11, 2008, 06:40 PM »

Quote from: mazaje on August 11, 2008, 06:16 PM
The koran. its the same as the bible. and i will like to know why the koran is wrong and the bible right or vice versa.

Tell me the beginning of islam?
I am not here to debate with you that your religion is wrong or right, but My bible says, that, there is only one name given unto man for salvation and that is Jesus, if you go to where Mohammed was burried, the bones are still there, however, that of Jesus is no more, because he has risen.
So koran is about a dead God and Bible is about a living God.
huxley (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #60 on: August 11, 2008, 06:47 PM »

Quote from: $$Rhino on August 11, 2008, 06:40 PM
Tell me the beginning of islam?
I am not here to debate with you that your religion is wrong or right, but My bible says, that, there is only one name given unto man for salvation and that is Jesus, if you go to where Mohammed was burried, the bones are still there, however, that of Jesus is no more, because he has risen.
So koran is about a dead God and Bible is about a living God.

Your bible has been wrong about many many many many things.  Why should we turn to it for anything given its dismal track record.
mazaje (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #61 on: August 11, 2008, 06:48 PM »

Quote from: $$Rhino on August 11, 2008, 06:40 PM
Tell me the beginning of islam?
I am not here to debate with you that your religion is wrong or right, but My bible says, that, there is only one name given unto man for salvation and that is Jesus, if you go to where Mohammed was burried, the bones are still there, however, that of Jesus is no more, because he has risen.
So koran is about a dead God and Bible is about a living God.

are you kidding me? i am not a muslim mind you.
onyinye2 (f)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #62 on: August 11, 2008, 06:48 PM »

Quote from: huxley on August 11, 2008, 06:47 PM
Your bible has been wrong about many many many many things.  Why should we turn to it for anything given its dismal track record.
So we should turn onto you abi?
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #63 on: August 11, 2008, 06:50 PM »

Quote from: huxley on August 11, 2008, 06:47 PM
Your bible has been wrong about many many many many things. Why should we turn to it for anything given its dismal track record.

show me one thing in the bible that was wrong, just one.

Quote from: mazaje on August 11, 2008, 06:48 PM
are you kidding me? i am not a muslim mind you.

i am not kidding you at all.
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