Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?

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Chrisbenogor (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #64 on: August 11, 2008, 07:01 PM »

@everyone
I feel you guys but please lets stick to the topic its about homosexuality and christianity we cannot leave the bible out of it, if you feel there is something with the bible you might start another thread and then we would all weigh in there, now it is homosexuality as regards christianity so with all due respect if you are a muslim and you want to weigh in then examine what the bible says about it then weigh in your thoughts
@$$ Rhino
I know you feel very strongly about being a christian but that doesnt mean you should diss another's religion just think how things might be different if you were born to a chief Imam in Sokoto thats a thread for another day.

@huxley for starters I don't think its appropraite to say the bible is wrong regardless of your religious background you can weigh in on how its being mis interpreted as regards homosexuality,

mazaje (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #65 on: August 11, 2008, 07:02 PM »

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show me one thing in the bible that was wrong, just one.
 

According to the bible the books of genesis, exodus, leviticus and numbers were written by moses, that is not possible because moses can not write about his birth, death and things that happened long after he died so that is totally incorrect.

the noahs ark story is just a fable that is if you look at it with an objective mind.

snakes do not eat dust according to the bible they do which is also false there are sooo many but these are just the few i can come up with for now.
huxley (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #66 on: August 11, 2008, 07:13 PM »

Quote from: $$Rhino on August 11, 2008, 06:50 PM
show me one thing in the bible that was wrong, just one.

i am not kidding you at all.

The bible describes a bat as a fowl (or bird), says rabbits chew the cud,  says mating animals can select the sex of the offsprings by watching patterns of stripes.

Implies the earth is flat
That the sun goes around the earth
Says Joshua was able to stop the movement of the sun around the earth
That humans are created and descended from Adam&Eve

and more, and more and more
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #67 on: August 11, 2008, 07:18 PM »

Quote from: Chrisbenogor on August 11, 2008, 07:01 PM
@$$ Rhino
I know you feel very strongly about being a christian but that doesnt mean you should diss another's religion just think how things might be different if you were born to a chief Imam in Sokoto thats a thread for another day.

please note that i wasnt dissing any other religion at all, all i am telling u is the diference between being a christian and being a Muslim
Quote from: mazaje on August 11, 2008, 07:02 PM
According to the bible the books of genesis, exodus, leviticus and numbers were written by moses, that is not possible because moses can not write about his birth, death and things that happened long after he died so that is totally incorrect.

the noahs ark soty is just a fable that is if you look at it correctly.

snakes do not eat dust according to the bible they do which is also false there are sooo amny many but these are just the few i can come up with for now.

The books were said to be written by Moses, however, doesnt mean that he ended the book, he started and wrote most the book, but i am sure that someone else's wrote about the time he was gone.
Show me whre you get information that Noah's ark, i like people to give me facts and not just make a statement.
When the bible says snakes eating dust, not saying dust as in sand, so try to get info right be4 u say something is wrong.
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #68 on: August 11, 2008, 07:20 PM »

Quote from: huxley on August 11, 2008, 07:13 PM
The bible describes a bat as a fowl (or bird), says rabbits chew the cud, says mating animals can select the sex of the offsprings by watching patterns of stripes.

Implies the earth is flat
That the sun goes around the earth
Says Joshua was able to stop the movement of the sun around the earth
That humans are created and descended from Adam&Eve

and more, and more and more

Tell me where in the bible it says that the earth was flat, and you are making a mistake by telling me what the people that try to grasp the understanding of He who created all things and narrate that to me, when the words of the one who created the earth itself is there, which one would i blv, that of scientist or that of God, so i guess you blv to that yuo are formed from the apes according to science?
rampant (f)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #69 on: August 11, 2008, 07:23 PM »

Rhino u seriously have time for huxley and co ,this pples mentality can't be changed,so leave them  Wink Wink
mazaje (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #70 on: August 11, 2008, 07:25 PM »

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 The books were said to be written by Moses, however, doesnt mean that he ended the book, he started and wrote most the book, but i am sure that someone else's wrote about the time he was gone.
Show me whre you get information that Noah's ark, i like people to give me facts and not just make a statement.
When the bible says snakes eating dust, not saying dust as in sand, so try to get info right be4 u say something is wrong.  

you see all you do is try to give excuses, it was'nt said that he ended or began writting its believed and said that he wrote all for books thats why in some bibles you will see writtings like the first book of moses, the second book of moses etc, about the noah's ark what about animals like kangaros, koala, polar bears, walrus etc that are found in particular regions of the world? how can the male and female animals of the whole world fit into a boat of that size? what does the bible mean by snakes eating dust and by bats being birds? can you please explain to us? and why is there no mention of china , indai and the americas in the bible? why are there no prophets amongst them?
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #71 on: August 11, 2008, 07:28 PM »

Quote from: mazaje on August 11, 2008, 07:25 PM

you see all you do is try to give excuses, it was'nt said that he ended or began writting its believed and said that he wrote all for books thats why in some bibles you will see writtings like the first book of moses, the second book of moses etc, about the noah's ark what about animals like kangaros, koala, polar bears, walrus etc that are found in particular regions of the world? how can the male and female animals of the whole world fit into a boat of that size? what does the bible mean by snakes eating dust and by bats being birds? can you please explain to us? and why is there no mention of china , indai and the americas in the bible? why are there no prophets amongst them?


go and check the size of the boat and once again, u are questioning the one that cld snap his fingers and you will sieze to exist, just answer the question if u evolve from apes, if u refse to blv that God created you.
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #72 on: August 11, 2008, 07:28 PM »

Quote from: rampant on August 11, 2008, 07:23 PM
Rhino u seriously have time for huxley and co ,this pples mentality can't be changed,so leave them Wink Wink

I am not even planning to change them at all, just saying what i know.
mazaje (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #73 on: August 11, 2008, 07:34 PM »

Quote from: $$Rhino on August 11, 2008, 07:28 PM
go and check the size of the boat and once again, u are questioning the one that cld snap his fingers and you will sieze to exist, just answer the question if u evolve from apes, if u refse to blv that God created you.

sorry baby, believe what you want to believe, sorry for intruding into your belief i have nothing to gain by arguing with you. Kiss Kiss Kiss
rampant (f)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #74 on: August 11, 2008, 07:35 PM »

Quote from: mazaje on August 11, 2008, 07:34 PM
sorry baby, believe what you want to believe, sorry for intruding into your belief i have nothing to gain by arguing with you. Kiss Kiss Kiss

apart from being an atheist,i hope u r not a gay too? Undecided
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #75 on: August 11, 2008, 07:36 PM »

Quote from: mazaje on August 11, 2008, 07:34 PM
sorry baby, believe what you want to believe, sorry for intruding into your belief i have nothing to gain by arguing with you. Kiss Kiss Kiss

hey pal, u can't intrude into my religion without my permission.
What i blv remain that God is God, he is alive and forever reigns.
mazaje (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #76 on: August 11, 2008, 07:40 PM »

Quote from: rampant on August 11, 2008, 07:35 PM
apart from being an atheist,i hope you're not a gay too? Undecided

I am that which you are.
rampant (f)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #77 on: August 11, 2008, 07:41 PM »

Quote from: mazaje on August 11, 2008, 07:40 PM
I am that which you are.

ok ,u r a gay ,buh byeeee
mazaje (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #78 on: August 11, 2008, 07:43 PM »

Quote from: rampant on August 11, 2008, 07:41 PM
ok ,you're a gay ,buh byeeee

If you are gay then i am gay too, like i ealier on said i am that which you are.
rampant (f)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #79 on: August 11, 2008, 07:48 PM »

Quote from: mazaje on August 11, 2008, 07:43 PM
If you are gay then i am gay too, like i ealier on said i am that which you are.

AMEN OOOOOOO ,I'm a man of God ,since u r what i am,then u r also a man of God,good to know that u have accepted jesus into ur life  Kiss Kiss
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #80 on: August 11, 2008, 07:51 PM »

Quote from: rampant on August 11, 2008, 07:48 PM
AMEN OOOOOOO ,I'm a man of God ,since you're what i am,then you're also a man of God,good to know that u have accepted jesus into your life Kiss Kiss

That is a good one, now that he has accepted God, the reward is waiting for you sis.
huxley (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #81 on: August 11, 2008, 07:51 PM »

Quote from: $$Rhino on August 11, 2008, 07:20 PM
Tell me where in the bible it says that the earth was flat, and you are making a mistake by telling me what the people that try to grasp the understanding of He who created all things and narrate that to me, when the words of the one who created the earth itself is there, which one would i blv, that of scientist or that of God, so i guess you blv to that yuo are formed from the apes according to science?

You remember the bit where the devil is supposed to have taken Jesus up a mountain and "showed Jesus the whole world".   Ignoring the sheer absurdity of a devil taking a god ( possibly hand-in-hand), let's just dwell on the physicality of the narrative.

Why did the devil not show Jesus the entire world from their initial standing position?  Presumably, these beings have supernatural powers, so they should have been able to see the world world from a plain, or a boat/ship on the sea of Galilee, or from a synagogue, or inn.

Now, because they could not see the entire world from these low-lying locations, the devil had to take Jesus up a mountain to show him the whole world.  But is it possible to see the whole world, even from the top of the highest mountain if the world is spherical?   I submit, absolutely NO.

These supernatural beings though not only that the earth was flat, but also that the Middle East/Near East constituted the entire world.  There would have had no idea about Nigeria and the Igbo, Yorubas -  no idea about Japan,  Mongolia, Australia,  Alaska,  the native South Americans, etc, etc.

You see, this narrative only makes sense in a relatively small  and flat world.
madamkoko
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #82 on: August 11, 2008, 08:03 PM »

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The books were said to be written by Moses, however, doesnt mean that he ended the book, he started and wrote most the book, but i am sure that someone else's wrote about the time he was gone.



What a joke!!! and who is the someone else ?
$$Rhino
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #83 on: August 11, 2008, 08:10 PM »

Quote from: huxley on August 11, 2008, 07:51 PM
You remember the bit where the devil is supposed to have taken Jesus up a mountain and "showed Jesus the whole world". Ignoring the sheer absurdity of a devil taking a god ( possibly hand-in-hand), let's just dwell on the physicality of the narrative.

Why did the devil not show Jesus the entire world from their initial standing position? Presumably, these beings have supernatural powers, so they should have been able to see the world world from a plain, or a boat/ship on the sea of Galilee, or from a synagogue, or inn.

Now, because they could not see the entire world from these low-lying locations, the devil had to take Jesus up a mountain to show him the whole world. But is it possible to see the whole world, even from the top of the highest mountain if the world is spherical? I submit, absolutely NO.

These supernatural beings though not only that the earth was flat, but also that the Middle East/Near East constituted the entire world. There would have had no idea about Nigeria and the Igbo, Yorubas - no idea about Japan, Mongolia, Australia, Alaska, the native South Americans, etc, etc.

You see, this narrative only makes sense in a relatively small and flat world.

All you have said so far are your own eprsonal theory.
I am not sure about you, however, when the eldery want to explain the world to the il kids, they take them to the high mountain and tell them to look down at the world, does that means the world was flat, nope, only means that they represent the world with what theys ee.
ono (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #84 on: August 11, 2008, 10:15 PM »

Exciting response from Rhino$$.

There is a passage in the Bible that states men will judge angels on the last day . . . . . .I will get it soon. So, the one who says he/she is not ready to judge others should start doing that now.

The Word of God is explicit about homosexuals and their act. They will be judged according to their works. . . . .and the judgement here is Death. Need I say that they will burn in Hell for ever and ever?
ono (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #85 on: August 11, 2008, 10:53 PM »

1 Corinthians 6:3
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
huxley (m)
Re: Homosexuality And Christainity: What Is Your Position?
« #86 on: August 11, 2008, 11:03 PM »

Quote from: $$Rhino on August 11, 2008, 08:10 PM
All you have said so far are your own eprsonal theory.
I am not sure about you, however, when the eldery want to explain the world to the il kids, they take them to the high mountain and tell them to look down at the world, does that means the world was flat, nope, only means that they represent the world with what theys ee.

There is absolutely no theory in what I have said.  I have simply analysed a narrative as give in the bible in the light of reason and scientific rationalism.  I challenge you to show me anywhere my analysis is flawed.

What is this stuff about mountains and elders? I thought you were simply religious, but it also looks like stupidity has take over your mind.  Where the hell do elders take kids to mountain to explain the world to them?  It is clear you are now just making things up.  If I did not know about Christians and their vile religion I would be surprise.  But alas, Christians are in the habit of making things up as they go along, particularly when caught in inconsistencies, lies and absurdities like you have been.

Not only is this falsehood, it is downright ridiculous.  Was the devil an elder being to Jesus, who needed to take him up a mountain to explain the world to him?  Did Jesus not already know the world, given that he was a god?  What sort of theology are you expounding?
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