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Rhodalyn (f)
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his judgement is wit God, there's nothin You can say aba it
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Consultant (f)
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I put this post up under another topic but i think it's actually more appropriate here. See below: My personal take on Pastors' living standards is this: Some of them are talented in one way or the other - maybe they write books or run their own businesses - or it could also be that they receive gifts from people, in that case any money they make is theirs and they can spend it anyhow they like. However, if all they depend on for sustenance is a salary from the church then their standard of living should not be substantially higher than that of their congregation. The case in which a church spent 120,000 pounds to celebrate a pastor's birthday was IMHO totally uncalled for. A standard to emulate is Pastor Rick Warren, author of "The Purpose Driven Life". Even though he has made millions from his book and can afford to live in the lap of luxury, he prefers to use his money for the good of mankind. He practices reverse-tithing, in other words, he spends 10% of his income and gives 90% to the church and other charitable organizations. I pray we see more pastors like him. I have attached a time magazine article about him to this post.
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exu (m)
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If what you say about Rick Warren is true then that is commendable.
However, as unfair as this may sound, shouldn't that be the norm for pastors? I mean, even though I don't believe in the Christian message I was always under the impression that it was about love- being kind to thy neighbour, being charitable, being selfless etc.
I would have far less of a problem with religious institutions if I heard more stories of them genuinely trying to uplift the standard of living for the general population, not just a chosen few.
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TYPOP (m)
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@Consultant
If a man has $1000, is it ok to spend $100 on himself and the others for God and the needy? What is the percentage of that 120,000 pounds you quoted with the pastors income?
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Consultant (f)
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@Consultant
If a man has $1000, is it ok to spend $100 on himself and the others for God and the needy? What is the percentage of that 120,000 pounds you quoted with the pastors income? TYPOP, I am not sure i fully understand your questions but i'll try and answer. If your first question is in reference to Rick Warren, then i believe an action like that is truly commendable. Remember what Jesus said about the widow who gave everything she had? Secondly, the 120,000 GBP in question was not Pastor Mathew's salary. It was simply used to celebrate his birthday. You should read the article.
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TYPOP (m)
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Do you have a link to the article? Send it if you do.
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allonym
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the link to the article is in the post. . . it has been there for a long time.
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Horus (m)
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What could God do with this stuff?
He told the Children of Israel to put them into heaps (2 Chronicles 31:5-6), and that they would be stored in a treasure house (Nehemiah 10:38).
Why does he, the creator of the fruit—flock and everything else, want this stuff (Genesis 1)?
Why put it in a “treasure house” to rot when it could be used to feed the millions of hungry people in the world?
Church leaders accept tithes in the name of God. They'll say “God needs your help building the church, ” What does god need with a multi-million dollar church? Nothing. These are the same so-called church leaders that you'll find riding in fancy cars, eating the best foods, living in expensive homes and living the life of wealthy people while their followers scrape and struggle to do “God's will” by tithing.
These so-called leaders will lead congregations in the worse of the worse neighborhoods and on their way to church to preach on Sundays or Saturdays or whatever day they declare to be the Sabbath,They will step over the homeless or the less fortunate.
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mekoyo (m)
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Lets not bother about what the pastor uses the money for. All we know is that we are fulfiling the commandments of giving to GOD and HE will reward us accordingly.
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pilgrim.1 (f)
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Well, I believe givers should be willing to bother about what any pastor(s) uses their money for. We may not challenge them (as we're not called to do so); but we are responsible to make informed decisions about our financial giving. Those who receive the gifts of God's people have a moral obligation to be accountable to their givers - among many things, it instills integrity and confidence between giver and receiver.
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