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mazaje (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #32 on: August 13, 2008, 10:57 PM »

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The jehova's witness carry the same bible as us except it is interpreted differently as they please.
joseph Smith brought his own book . . . the bible is clear . . . in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses let a matter be agreed . . . does Joseph smith's book agree with the bible? NO!.

Again to debunk these baseless claims of an "edited" bible . . . the complete original translations of the bible are available . . . USE IT!

   
interpreted? is that what you call it? do they catholics intepret their bible differently too? is there any such thing as the original translation? the stories were arranged and translated to various language and you are telling  me about original? what is original, were the first christains english? just because people arranged and kept something in a particular language doesnt make it original. the whole fable was arranged editted to make a believeable and coherent story and you are telling me about original. what about the original koran? Grin Grin
Okija_juju (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #33 on: August 13, 2008, 11:08 PM »

@ Topic

How can anyone be sure they are going to heaven?? Hmm!! The truth is that they have absolutely no idea what heaven is. Is it beyond te sky, another world like earth with cars, houses, streets of gold and all worthy not?? Will there be poor men and rich men?? Who will be boss and who will be gatemen??

Heaven is just a religious joke, a fantasy that we all wish for, the much elusive utopia that is desired by everyone.

What happens if you die and discover that there is no heaven?? What if the theory of reincarnation is true?? What if death is the last point?? What if allah is for real and the muslims all get 72 virgins?? What if you reincarnate and co e back as an animal??

WHO KNOWS?? I guess y'all should just keep going with faith?? Hope that what you are doing is right and true.


I might prolly come back as a deity.  
mazaje (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #34 on: August 13, 2008, 11:13 PM »

Quote from: Okija_juju on August 13, 2008, 11:08 PM
@ Topic

How can anyone be sure they are going to heaven?? Hmm!! The truth is that they have absolutely no idea what heaven is. Is it beyond te sky, another world like earth with cars, houses, streets of gold and all worthy not?? Will there be poor men and rich men?? Who will be boss and who will be gatemen??

Heaven is just a religious joke, a fantasy that we all wish for, the much elusive utopia that is desired by everyone.

What happens if you die and discover that there is no heaven?? What if the theory of reincarnation is true?? What if death is the last point?? What if allah is for real and the muslims all get 72 virgins?? What if you reincarnate and co e back as an animal??
WHO KNOWS?? I guess y'all should just keep going with faith?? Hope that what you are doing is right and true.


I might prolly come back as a deity. 

i have never given that much thought. it will be soo bad because i will be left out  just because i do not believe that mohammed is the prophet of allah:'( Cry Cry Cry
davidylan (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #35 on: August 13, 2008, 11:14 PM »

Quote from: mazaje on August 13, 2008, 11:13 PM
i have never given that much thought. it will be soo bad because i will be left out just because i do not believe that mohammed is the prophet of allah:'( Cry Cry Cry

its not too late, buy a turban, its cheap.  Grin
mazaje (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #36 on: August 13, 2008, 11:22 PM »

Quote from: davidylan on August 13, 2008, 11:14 PM
its not too late, buy a turban, its cheap. Grin

i will buy one and come after you because you have desecrated the name of allah and his prohet mohammed so many times on nairaland. i will come tied around with my explosives, embrace you and detonate my devices, when am done i shall be with the virgins why you rot in hell. Grin Grin
davidylan (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #37 on: August 13, 2008, 11:52 PM »

Quote from: mazaje on August 13, 2008, 11:22 PM
i will buy one and come after you because you have desecrated the name of allah and his prohet mohammed so many times on nairaland. i will come tied around with my explosives, embrace you and detonate my devices, when am done i shall be with the virgins why you rot in hell. Grin Grin

no problem, get your turban quickly sinec your virgins are getting impatient. Grin
manmustwac (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #38 on: August 14, 2008, 12:27 AM »

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what  guarantee is there that when we die we are destined for heaven when it cannot be proved that heaven actually exists? The whole notion that you must die before you can go to heaven sounds absurd to me. 
mazaje (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #39 on: August 14, 2008, 02:14 AM »

Quote from: manmustwac on August 14, 2008, 12:27 AM
@post
what guarantee is there that when we die we are destined for heaven when it cannot be proved that heaven actually exists? The whole notion that you must die before you can go to heaven sounds absurd to me.

you can say that again. why is it that heaven is the only place that people have to die before they go to? i have read about and seen moslems and christains on tv who have claimed to have been to heaven anyway but the truth is that they can't all be saying the truth.  and as far as i know they are all lying;D Grin
davidylan (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #40 on: August 14, 2008, 02:37 AM »

Quote from: manmustwac on August 14, 2008, 12:27 AM
@post
what guarantee is there that when we die we are destined for heaven when it cannot be proved that heaven actually exists? The whole notion that you [b]must die before you can go to heaven sounds absurd to me.[/b]

which sounds reasonable to you? the notion that you can fly to heaven while eating eba?
mazaje (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #41 on: August 14, 2008, 03:11 AM »

Quote from: davidylan on August 14, 2008, 02:37 AM
which sounds reasonable to you? the notion that you can fly to heaven while eating eba?

where  and what is heaven? and why must you die before you go there? every religion has its own heaven. the moslem heaven will be extreamly lovely ohhh because there will be so many beautiful and sexy virgins besides the rivers that will be flowing with booze chie. i go like dey there ohhh.
Okija_juju (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #42 on: August 14, 2008, 03:14 AM »

No Christian wan die but them wan go heaven! 


Hypocrites
mazaje (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #43 on: August 14, 2008, 03:17 AM »

Quote from: Okija_juju on August 14, 2008, 03:14 AM
No Christian wan die but them wan go heaven!


Hypocrites

that christain heaven no go dey as exciting as the moslem one ohhhh, na so so worshiping and praising god them go just dey do there no shagging and drinking of booze, chie wallai na the moslem one me wan go ohhh. chie those 72 virgins. Grin Grin
Okija_juju (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #44 on: August 14, 2008, 03:20 AM »

Quote from: mazaje on August 14, 2008, 03:17 AM
that christain heaven no go dey as exciting as the moslem one ohhhh, na so so worshiping and praising god them go just dey do there no shagging and drinking of booze, chie wallai na the moslem one me wan go ohhh. chie those 72 virgins. Grin Grin

Crase man, if you like no hurry go collect your own!!
I hear say all these suicide bombers don dey carry all the babes o!!
mazaje (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #45 on: August 14, 2008, 03:24 AM »

Quote from: Okija_juju on August 14, 2008, 03:20 AM
Crase man, if you like no hurry go collect your own!!
I hear say all these suicide bombers don dey carry all the babes o!!

chie where davidylan dey abeg make i go embrace am with my bag of explosives, him don desecrate the prophet mohammed and allah so many times on nairaland. i really want those virgins ohh. davidylan where you dey abeg i want those 72 virgins.
Okija_juju (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #46 on: August 14, 2008, 03:31 AM »

Quote from: mazaje on August 14, 2008, 03:24 AM
chie where davidylan dey abeg make i go embrace am with my bag of explosives, him don desecrate the prophet mohammed and allah so many times on nairaland. i really want those virgins ohh. davidylan where you dey abeg i want those 72 virgins.

Bonanza package dey for those wey fit blow up more enemies of mohammed. Extra 120 virgins with free condom for family planning.  Grin
Gamine (f)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #47 on: August 14, 2008, 09:32 AM »

Isnt it Clear that Islam is a Sham.

Promising people Virgins n stuff??? appealing to SELF, such a self centered bitter religion

Does it make sense, does it seem like something to be taken seriously at all Undecided Undecided Undecided

Anyways, My dad was like Mr Huxley
He didnt want anything to do with any religion
But when my grandad died, the muslim shackle over us fell
and my mum was able to fire on in prayers for my dad.

So many people have this same story

what matters is that, i found the truth even as a child
no other "Religion" offered such peace, love and warmth.

Until i find something in Christianity that is detrimental to life
i will not Leave My JESUS.  Smiley
MrCrackles (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #48 on: August 14, 2008, 09:42 AM »

Quote from: Gamine on August 14, 2008, 09:32 AM
Isnt it Clear that Islam is a Sham.

U should be really careful about the way you mouth-swipe other people's religion!

It is not the most sensible thing to do, it would only bring about more controversies

Just a piece of advice, and you don't have to rain curses on me nor take the advice
Gamine (f)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #49 on: August 14, 2008, 10:12 AM »

I know i don't have to take advice from YOU.

i mean, coming from YOU
Undecided Undecided

This isnt Mouth Swiping Mr Brash.
MrCrackles (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #50 on: August 14, 2008, 10:18 AM »

Quote from: Gamine on August 14, 2008, 10:12 AM


i mean, coming from YOU
Undecided Undecided


what dya mean by coming from me?! Smiley
Gamine (f)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #51 on: August 14, 2008, 10:31 AM »

I mean, Figure it out! Cheesy
Okija_juju (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #52 on: August 14, 2008, 11:53 AM »

Quote from: Gamine on August 14, 2008, 09:32 AM
Isnt it Clear that Islam is a Sham.

Promising people Virgins n stuff??? appealing to SELF, such a self centered bitter religion

Does it make sense, does it seem like something to be taken seriously at all Undecided Undecided Undecided

Anyways, My dad was like Mr Huxley
He didnt want anything to do with any religion
But when my grandad died, the muslim shackle over us fell
and my mum was able to fire on in prayers for my dad.

So many people have this same story

what matters is that, i found the truth even as a child
no other "Religion" offered such peace, love and warmth.

Until i find something in Christianity that is detrimental to life
i will not Leave My JESUS
. Smiley

Hey 72 virgins a sham??
What then do you say about streets of Gold in christian heaven?? The more converts you get, the more stars to your crown, right?? So your heaven still does not promise ann egalitarian society in the afterlife.
Talk about sham.

Puhleeeze!!

All religions are shams
Gamine (f)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #53 on: August 14, 2008, 12:04 PM »

Puhleeeeze

Quote the bible.

Besides Christianity is not a Religion

we are not looking For a way to God, We have access to Him through Christ

Christianity is all about being Christ-like in this world, check it up Smiley
Pastor AIO
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #54 on: August 14, 2008, 01:02 PM »

Quote from: Okija_juju on August 14, 2008, 11:53 AM
Hey 72 virgins a sham??

72 pere!  Maybe if he times'd it by 5 to give 360 then they could form a complete circle around me, one for each day of the year, then I would find it tempting.
olabowale (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #55 on: August 14, 2008, 01:43 PM »

@Gamine:
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Anyways, My dad was like Mr Huxley
He didnt want anything to do with any religion
But when my grandad died, the muslim shackle over us fell
and my mum was able to fire on in prayers for my dad.

So many people have this same story

what matters is that, i found the truth even as a child
no other "Religion" offered such peace, love and warmth.

Until i find something in Christianity that is detrimental to life
i will not Leave My JESUS. 

And my eyes welled up with tears, for your father, you and your siblings and your mum. Oh muslim men, read what Gamine wrote and do not marry a disbelieving woman without exhausting your search for a believing woman, first. Do not have a woman that will weaken your Iman and be the shayatin among mankind in your life. Obey the commandments of Allah and the sunnah of His prophet (as), about choice of spouse.

Oh muslim women, it is forbidden for you to marry a man other than a muslim. What is to be enjoyed of a believing woman is forbidden to a disbelieving man. Believing women must marry believing men. Otherwise you have disobeyed Allah in His Sharia and have not followed the prophet (as) in the way Allah had made him practiced it by the sunnah.


Gamine, I pray that Allah the Almighty forgive your grandfather, the Muslim. May he be accepted in His Jannah, Paradise without ever going to Hellfire. Amin. Now tell your father that you met a man on the blogging that is sorrowed by his condition. Alhamdulillah, your father is not dead, yet. Tell him, if he wishes to have a conversation I am available. I will call him, whereever he may be on earth.

To all, no man must be spiritually weak relative to his woman's. If I mount any woman, she being my wife, will not be my head. A partner yes, but never my head. Unfortunately, if your father had not been, at best, a lukewarm muslim, there could never have a possibility that he would have succomb to a prayer of a disbeliever. I am sure that if any Aborisha/Amadiolla have made the same prayer, he would have crumbled just as much. Now, gamine, tell him that. Tell him that there is this muslim who will like to talk to him. I think I am old enough to have his audience.

If your mom wishes to listen, she should be my guest. And you know that I am direct, but respective. I will be in my best behaviors.
Gamine (f)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #56 on: August 14, 2008, 02:40 PM »

This guy, you too funny  Grin Grin Grin Grin

My dad was never a partaker of Islam.lol

Do you know what, i may be able to get you some ablution kettles

that were distributed during my grandad's burial, they are nicely colored

my sisters and i used to use them to play house, they'd look nice in your house Cheesy
Queenisha
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #57 on: August 14, 2008, 03:27 PM »

Quote from: Gamine on August 14, 2008, 02:40 PM
This guy, you too funny Grin Grin Grin Grin

My dad was never a partaker of Islam.lol

Do you know what, i may be able to get you some ablution kettles

that were distributed during my grandad's burial, they are nicely colored

my sisters and i used to use them to play house, they'd look nice in your house Cheesy

Chei,they shared plastic ablution kettles at your grandad's funeral?
My fav color is green.
send me one for ablutioning my indoor plants
dudu-bobo
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #58 on: August 14, 2008, 03:42 PM »

I am sure I am going to heaven because God says so in His word and God can NEVER lie.
Gamine (f)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #59 on: August 14, 2008, 03:56 PM »

@Queenisha

One Bottle-green colored Kettle coming up! Grin
olabowale (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #60 on: August 14, 2008, 05:10 PM »

@Gamine:
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Quote from: Gamine on Today at 02:40:22 PM
This guy, you too funny   

My dad was never a partaker of Islam.lol

Do you know what, i may be able to get you some ablution kettles

that were distributed during my grandad's burial, they are nicely colored

my sisters and i used to use them to play house, they'd look nice in your house

Get me connected to him. he and me will talk, mano a mano. Ask Queenisha about me. I speak up, without being abrasive. I am counting on you. Don't forget. Okay?





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Chei,they shared plastic ablution kettles at your grandad's funeral?
My fav color is green.
send me one for ablutioning my indoor plants

You need 2. One for your own ablution first, before the other you can use for the indoor plants. maybe you need another for washing "      !" Thats the foundation of the real ablution.
Gamine (f)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #61 on: August 14, 2008, 05:22 PM »

Mano mano

i wonder how old you are, my dad is quite elderly  Undecided
Frizy (m)
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #62 on: August 14, 2008, 05:22 PM »

I will not sit in the midst of those who ridicule Allah, Mohammed His Prophet or the Koran. Y'all think this 72 virgin promise is untrue? Then what could be truer than what Allah Himself promises. Huh
Queenisha
Re: How Can You Be Sure You Are Destined For Heaven?
« #63 on: August 14, 2008, 05:26 PM »

72 only?
one guy  married 100 wives right there in Nigeria
and all allah promises is 72
allah has to step up his game
The sons of men have moved higher than his figures
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