Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney

@Hubreality
Oh my goodness! I was soooo blessed by that. Can u imagine? They say His curly hair and good diction misleads Nigerians. What a stupid thing to say. If that kind of misleading brought u (hubreality) to where u r now, then i desire to be misled even more. glory to Jesus!

well i wouldnt like to judge anybody, but this is what i gotta say :
Is P.chris recognized by the fruitage manifest in his live and those who follow him? Matt.7:15-20 -- ''by their fruits you will recognize those men''
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and as regards for the MIRACLES AND SIGNS, this is what i believe: in my bible 1 Cor. 13: 8. ''but whether there be prophecies, they shall FAIL, whether there be tongues they shall CEASE.
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Jesus used miracles: John 20:30,31--''that you might believe Jesus is THE CHRIST, the son of God''
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an example:
Moses and Aaron appeared before Pharaoh of Egypt to request that israel be allowed to go into the wilderness to offer sacrifices to God. As evidence of divine backing, Moses directed Aaron to throw down his rod and it became a big snake. That miracle was done by God's power. But then the wise men and sorcerers of Egypt threw down their rods and these, too, became big snake. Lets ask ourselves, BY WHOSE POWER DID THEY PERFORM THEIR MIRACLE?
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MATT 24: 24
says : For there shall arise False Christs and false prophets, and shall show great SIGNS and WONDERS, insomuch that, if it were possible shall DECEIVE the very elect.
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we all have eyes, and we see these things. make da right choice,

Sorry but Judgement as you claim from Romans 14:4 is not contextually applicable to this case. Please include verses 5 to 10 to get the full grasp of the message paul was passing across.

As for James 3:8 I don't quite understand what you are trying to state. Are you perhaps saying calling Chris Oyakhilome a Phoney is evil even if there is an obvious truth to it?

I am not complaining on the basis of suspicion but like I rightly stated what I observed him to do which is quoting habakkuk 1: 5 out of context for no better reason than trying to dissuade viewers from believing reports about his ministry with the man on the wheel chair story.

Hi paulipopo,


I could quote the whole of Romans from chapter 1 to 16; but none of the verses would help your portfolio on this issue. Lol, even if one were to add verse 5 to 10 inclusive, how does verse 10 accommodate your pursuit on this matter. Just let's see the verse 10 in question:

      Romans 14 v. 10 --

      "But why dost thou judge thy brother?
       or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?
       for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ."

So, what was the "full message" that is anything different from what I had shared about being careful the way we sue our tongues against others?


It's easy to see what James 3:8 states about the tongue, is it not?


Okay, your say. So many people also quote texts out of context for various purposes: if one were to highlight the same thing in your submissions, would it be okay to then refer to you as a "phoney"?

My point was simply: be careful how you use your tongue.

Dear paulipopo,


Even in all what you stated, I don't see where you made anything more substantial for your case. Romans 14 v. 10 is a basic principle for which you will find many warnings about the attitude expressed in this topic. Looking at the sad cases of believers who fall into blame on some issues did not make the apostles anywhere refer to anyone as a phoney - and if those verses you quoted were to be used as justifying your adventures here, I'm sorry they do not.

Paul rebuking Peter did not go so far as to make the former refer to the latter as a 'phoney'. As an apostle, Paul could make a serious case to point out an issue to another apostle (Peter), but nowhere did he go the length of referring to him as a phoney and then seeking several verses in the OT to justify where he would have called Peter by such derogatory terms.


Galatians 2:11-14 does not teach any Christian anything as taking up an adventure to go about slurring anyone, such as you're seeking to justify here with the derogatory term 'phoney' under the idea that you're seeking to "judge" a pastor. Again, 1 Corinthians 5:1-5 was apostolic - unfortunately, you don't stand as an apostle and cannot claim to be acting in that capacity. Besides, when Paul exercised his apostolic authority there, he did not even address the erring believer as a "phoney", did he? I think it would be more helpful to ask yourself what your capacity before God truly is, before you try to justify this misadventure from those verses you cited.


The message is clear: be careful what matter you kindle with your tongue.


We can "judge" if something is of God or not; but to justify an adventure of castigating anyone with such derogatory terms as "phoney" is not the same thing as 'discernment'. Perhaps those who are seeking to use this "discernment" to evaluate whether something is of God or not, should themselves look deep in their own hearts and ask if it is actually of God to go about with such an attitude. It is easy to call people names - the finger is always ready to point at others; however, it is not easy for the same people to sit down and look into their hearts and ask God if He sent them to do what they are happy to embark upon by slurring other people.

If people are teaching falsely, we can point these out; if they are doing things which are ungodly, we can point them out as well; if they are engaging in evil, we could as well bring out these matters - all these we can do without slurring anyone. The spirit that delights in castigating and enjoying such adventures needs to be checked. I have learnt my lessons, and I know what I'm talking about.


I understand you - and as you can see, 'judgement' (that is in context of "discernment") is not the same thing as castigating people with defamatory slurs.

Blessings.

Paulipopo, i know exactly ur stand in the things of the Spirit. Jesus said 'the words i speak to you are Spirit and Life(John 6:63). This is beyond the quoting of scriptures and the play of religion and it's politics. If the Spirit of Him that raised Jesus from death dwells in you, you will in faith and in Love. Sow the right seeds now and always for harvest time is certain.
God bless you.

Paulipopo, i know exactly ur stand in the things of the Spirit. Jesus said 'the words i speak to you are Spirit and Life(John 6:63). This is beyond the quoting of scriptures and the play of religion and it's politics. If the Spirit of Him that raised Jesus from death dwells in you, you will in faith and in Love. Sow the right seeds now and always for harvest time is certain.
God bless you.

Matthew 7:20-23:
20 Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions.
21 “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’

Hi Pilgrim.1,
    Greetings in the matchless Name of Jesus Christ. I'm doing great and you? God is our strength and the grace is quite sufficient to the Glory of Jesus.

The word of God is mightily producing results in our lives. Hallelujah! The work Works!

I hope you're warming up for the IPPC 2008. Wow, I'm excited because I know the Holy Ghost is set to impart spiritual gifts and blessings to His beloved sons and daughters. Glory to Jesus!

What a stupid thing to say. If that kind of misleading brought u (hubreality) to where u r now, then i desire to be misled even more. glory to Jesus!

                                         i wish he realises it before it is too late

let him that noeth to do right do it.stop the act of critizising men of God.