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NINETOFIVE (m)
Igbo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Igbo
« on: June 26, 2006, 12:15 AM »

Why are IGBO's so disunited, a Delta IBO person would say am an IGBO person when he or she is in problem, but when things are alright the same person would say am not an IGBO, the IGBO's from ANAMBRA, IMO, ENUGU, ABIA etc would say those are not real IGBO'S. Dialectical differences does not mean we are different, we are all brothers, dialectical differences exist every where in IGBOLAND and thats what that makes the language interesting.
     Please if any body has a solution to this problem please come forward with your Ideas, a positive responds would be most appreciated  Smiley.
hot-angel (f)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #1 on: June 26, 2006, 01:40 AM »

I think Igbo People ARE United.

Seriously, those people that say they aren't Igbo, are really NOT igbos. A calarbar man would tell u he's not igbo cause he does not speak ibo. He speaks something else.

So why do u want to make him accept that he's igbo?

Am i getting something wrong? Anambra people and Enugu people agreee that THEY ARE IBO! no?

An anambra man would never in EVER of ever tell u he's no IGBO! I had friends, and they all agree that they are the real igbo people. Delta people say they are not igbo tho.
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #2 on: June 26, 2006, 05:58 PM »

To hot angel

Quote from: hot-angel on June 26, 2006, 01:40 AM
I think Igbo People ARE United.

Seriously, those people that say they aren't Igbo, are really NOT igbos. A calarbar man would tell u he's not igbo cause he does not speak ibo. He speaks something else.

So why do u want to make him accept that he's igbo?

Am i getting something wrong? Anambra people and Enugu people agreee that THEY ARE IBO! no?

An anambra man would never in EVER of ever tell u he's no IGBO! I had friends, and they all agree that they are the real igbo people. Delta people say they are not igbo tho.

Yes the Anambra and Enugu people has no problem with there IBO Identity and so is the Imo and Abia, but they might be forced to say that the Delta IBO'S are not real IBO'S because of the Delta IBO'S state of mind, which depending on how he or she feels at a particular time might say am an IBO or my say am not an IBO, and that where the whole problem is, I think we need to change this.
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #3 on: June 26, 2006, 07:56 PM »

Please your contribution will make a lot of difference.
lioness (f)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #4 on: June 27, 2006, 11:09 AM »

Are u saying ikwerre's are igbo's .
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #5 on: June 27, 2006, 01:19 PM »

To lioness

Quote from: lioness on June 27, 2006, 11:09 AM
Are u saying ikwerre's are igbo's .

An Ibo person is any body that his or her natural language is Ibo not withstanding the dialectical differences because every language does have dialectical differences, even the word Ikwerre is an Ibo word.




lioness (f)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #6 on: June 27, 2006, 01:57 PM »

if ikwerre were igbo, they'd call it igbo and not ikwerre.
Ikwerre is Ikwerre, Igbo is Igbo

OK
my2cents (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #7 on: June 27, 2006, 07:23 PM »

Ibos are united otherwise there wouldnt seem to be a massive support for biafra 2 (which by the way would never succeed).

EastnEuSis (f)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #8 on: June 28, 2006, 12:58 AM »

 To NINETO FIVE

Are you a fake IBO
EastnEuSis (f)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #9 on: June 28, 2006, 01:00 AM »

Quote from: my2cents on June 27, 2006, 07:23 PM
Ibos are united otherwise there wouldnt seem to be a massive support for biafra 2 (which by the way would never succeed).



Let us wait and see.
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #10 on: June 28, 2006, 01:29 AM »

Quote from: lioness on June 27, 2006, 01:57 PM
if ikwerre were igbo, they'd call it igbo and not ikwerre.
Ikwerre is Ikwerre, Igbo is Igbo

OK

I don't need to waist my time on this argument, If you are in doubt that Ikwerre people are IBO'S then you might as well be in doubt that Nkwerre people are IBO'S too, am sure you know better, there is no ethnic group called Ikwerre, is like you say Nnewi people or Aba people.
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #11 on: June 28, 2006, 01:30 AM »

Quote from: EastnEuSis on June 28, 2006, 12:58 AM
To NINETO FIVE

Are you a fake IBO

Am an IBO simple.
lioness (f)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #12 on: June 28, 2006, 01:14 PM »

Look! i don't know where you popped up this theory from.
But don't give me that crap about Ikwere not being an ethnicity. ~~~ ROARS~~~

Am Ikwerre, I am not Igbo. I could understand when you say igbo are igbos even though the anambra's say they are the real igbos. But crossing your boundary and saying Ikwerre is Igbo, then i think i need to school you boy.

p.s
which one be Nkwerre Huh
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #13 on: June 28, 2006, 08:07 PM »

Quote from: lioness on June 28, 2006, 01:14 PM
Look! i don't know where you popped up this theory from.
But don't give me that crap about Ikwere not being an ethnicity. ~~~ ROARS~~~

Am Ikwerre, I am not Igbo. I could understand when you say igbo are igbos even though the anambra's say they are the real igbos. But crossing your boundary and saying Ikwerre is Igbo, then i think i need to school you boy.

p.s
which one be Nkwerre Huh

Are you feeling guilty about abandoned property?, forget those things Grin, don't worry when your mood changes you will claim otherwise. When you need something tomorrow you will surely do, i 've seen a lot of people like you ne valnuytsa Grin
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #14 on: June 28, 2006, 10:27 PM »

As a 'Delta Ibo' guy, I'd like to comment. From time immemorial, the various Igbo sound-alikes in Delta and elsewhere have striven to maintain their identity while the Igbos have always proclaimed that the others are Igbo.

I can tell you that even when the going's good NO Delta-Ibo guy would say he's Igbo. We've always tried to maintain our identity - unfortunately, because there're several similarities, everyone else wants to group us together.

You can't call an Urhobo man Isoko simply because they sound alike or an Ibibio man Efik.

My language is called Ukwani and there're a great many differences with the main Igbo language so. . .
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #15 on: June 29, 2006, 12:27 AM »

To Zahymaka

Quote from: Zahymaka on June 28, 2006, 10:27 PM
As a 'Delta Ibo' guy, I'd like to comment. From time immemorial, the various Igbo sound-alikes in Delta and elsewhere have striven to maintain their identity while the Igbos have always proclaimed that the others are Igbo.

I can tell you that even when the going's good NO Delta-Ibo guy would say he's Igbo. We've always tried to maintain our identity - unfortunately, because there're several similarities, everyone else wants to group us together.

You can't call an Urhobo man Isoko simply because they sound alike or an Ibibio man Efik.

My language is called Ukwani and there're a great many differences with the main Igbo language so. . .


By Addressing or introducing your self as a ''Delta Ibo'',IBO, IBO take note and going further downward to attempt to prove to me that you are not an IBO shows the dept of your confusion, by the way UKwani is an IBO word, is Ukwani your ethnicity Grin, and don't forget to come tomorrow and tell me,  am an African guy but am  not an African Huh.
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #16 on: June 29, 2006, 03:49 AM »

Quote from: NINETOFIVE on June 29, 2006, 12:27 AM
To Zahymaka

By Addressing or introducing your self as a ''Delta Ibo'',IBO, IBO take note and going further downward to attempt to prove to me that you are not an IBO shows the debt of your confusion, by the way UKwani is an IBO word, is Ukwani your ethnicity Grin, and don't forget to come tomorrow and tell me,  am an African guy but am  not an African Huh.

We're not the ones who call ourselves Delta-Ibo - it was conferred on us. Forget your insinuations - what I'm saying is that nobody from that region will agree he's Igbo.

The only thing we've tolerated is as regards the use of Ibo instead of Igbo in Delta-Ibo. The languages are related but they're not the same - period.
lioness (f)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #17 on: June 29, 2006, 08:50 AM »

 Huh

Am begining to think that this NINETOFIVE guy is just plain confused. I doubt if he can tell the difference between him and the next man.

First of all, whatever u replied to my post didnt make sense to me and secondly, i'm feeling you just wanted to make a thread and so u came up with your assumptions and i expected you'd bring up maps and history of how i was igbo and migrated to ikwerre but you entire defence is fuucking weak man.

Give it a rest already yeah Tongue
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #18 on: June 29, 2006, 09:22 AM »

Well said lioness - Fulanis are offended if you call them Hausa even though the languages sound alike and vice versa. This guy needs to do his homework.

By the way, I'm waiting for my hickey. . .
lioness (f)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #19 on: June 29, 2006, 10:02 AM »

 Cheesy i'll give u one below the belt  Wink
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #20 on: June 29, 2006, 09:57 PM »

Quote from: Zahymaka on June 29, 2006, 03:49 AM
We're not the ones who call ourselves Delta-Ibo - it was conferred on us. Forget your insinuations - what I'm saying is that nobody from that region will agree he's Igbo.

The only thing we've tolerated is as regards the use of Ibo instead of Igbo in Delta-Ibo. The languages are related but they're not the same - period.

Who conferred it on you Huh, why have you refused to make any sense, are you listening to yourself, you came on this thread and introduced yourself as a Delta Ibo. You see am just seek and tired of having traitors {Note: very very few traitors, not generalizing } around me, it has happened to me twice, somebody coming to me and telling me please help me, am your brother am an IBO, but when I 've helped the person, to here the same person next time turn around an say to me ''ol boy I no be IBO o'', It makes my heart bleed. Well there is no time for emotions now,please show me your ethnic group and your Ukwani language on the map below. people are laughing at very few people like you Grin.

Quote from: lioness on June 29, 2006, 08:50 AM
Huh

Am begining to think that this NINETOFIVE guy is just plain confused. I doubt if he can tell the difference between him and the next man.

First of all, whatever u replied to my post didnt make sense to me and secondly, i'm feeling you just wanted to make a thread and so u came up with your assumptions and i expected you'd bring up maps and history of how i was igbo and migrated to ikwerre but you entire defence is fuucking weak man.

Give it a rest already yeah Tongue


 I started this thread to foster unity, all my write ups are not based on theory or assumption but facts, get yourself some education the map below would really help, do me a favor show me your Ikwerre tribe and your ikwerre language on the map below, I can see other ethnic groups but I can't see yours, are we getting somewhere now, are you confused?.

Quote from: lioness on June 28, 2006, 01:14 PM
Look! i don't know where you popped up this theory from.
But don't give me that crap about Ikwere not being an ethnicity. ~~~ ROARS~~~

Am Ikwerre, I am not Igbo. I could understand when you say igbo are igbos even though the anambra's say they are the real igbos. But crossing your boundary and saying Ikwerre is Igbo, then i think i need to school you boy.

p.s
which one be Nkwerre Huh

Nkwerre is a town in abia state

Quote from: Zahymaka on June 29, 2006, 09:22 AM
Well said lioness - Fulanis are offended if you call them Hausa even though the languages sound alike and vice versa. This guy needs to do his homework.

By the way, I'm waiting for my hickey. . .

Is not a very good comparison because your Ukwani language is just the same as Uguta language in Abia state, try to find out.





NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #21 on: June 29, 2006, 09:59 PM »

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NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #22 on: June 29, 2006, 10:01 PM »

Quote from: lioness on June 29, 2006, 10:02 AM
Cheesy i'll give u one below the belt Wink

there is no need to fight it Wink.
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #23 on: June 29, 2006, 10:28 PM »

Quote from: NINETOFIVE on June 29, 2006, 10:01 PM
there is no need to fight it Wink.

I will not argue with you -- I can see it's useless. Do you understand the meaning of inverted commas?

I introduced myself as 'Delta Ibo' not Delta Ibo.

The grouping of ethnic groups is only general -- I'm sorry certain people have deceived you about that but who's to blame -- me?

Speaking of the ethnic grouping do you think Hausa and Fulani agree that they're one? The people who drew the map are obviously not. . .

Look at Edo -- are you aware different ethnic groups like the Ishan and Bini exist in Edo or that the region defined as Ibibio actually is made up of the Anang, Ibibio and Efik peoples? The area marked Ijaw contains Kalabari, Kolokuma, Okirika, and a host of other languages. . .

I won't post on this thread again.
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #24 on: June 29, 2006, 11:09 PM »

To Zahymaka

Quote from: Zahymaka on June 29, 2006, 10:28 PM
I will not argue with you -- I can see it's useless. Do you understand the meaning of inverted commas?

I introduced myself as 'Delta Ibo' not Delta Ibo.

The grouping of ethnic groups is only general -- I'm osrry certain people have deceived you about that but who's to blame -- me?

Speaking of the ethic grouping do you think Hausa and Fulani agree that they're one? The people who drew the map are obviously not. . .

Look at Edo -- are you aware different ethnic groups like the Ishan and Bini exist in Edo or that the region defined as Ibibio actually is made up of the Anang, Ibibio and Efik peoples? The area marked Ijaw contains Kalabari, Kolokuma, Okirika, and a host of other languages. . .

I won't post on this thread again.

Yes you better stop posting on this thread, 'cause you are not intelligent, the truth is always bitter, accept defeat.
lioness (f)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #25 on: June 30, 2006, 09:24 AM »

what exactly is the truth?
That a black man was once a white man just that the sun heat him too much so he turned black?

Did you ever think about this topic deeply, or you just got bored and decided to be noticed.




Quote from: NINETOFIVE on June 29, 2006, 11:09 PM
To Zahymaka

Yes you better stop posting on this thread, 'cause you are not intelligent, the truth is always bitter, accept defeat.
lioness (f)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #26 on: June 30, 2006, 09:28 AM »

NINETOFIVE,

Your map was from 1979 - when we had just how many LGA's Huh
Your theory is that there are about 12 - 15 tribes in Nigeria.
There is a difference between Majority and minority ethnicity. What you have pointed out are major ethnicity and it  doesnt mean others don't exist.
1st of all Ijaw is no longer in Portharcourt. Where did tribes such as "Okrika, Kalabari, ndoni, etc" come from.  Are they also Igbo? or maybe Edo or Yoruba.


If you must exhibit your ignorance, do it with wisdom

Stop living in the past Ok.


kajad (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #27 on: June 30, 2006, 09:42 AM »

Quote from: lioness on June 30, 2006, 09:28 AM
NINETOFIVE,
If you must exhibit your ignorance, do it with wisdom

ha ha ha lmao.  Grin  Grin  Grin
Eddy Tells (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #28 on: June 30, 2006, 09:55 AM »

Hello NINETOFIVE,
i understand where your coming from but i don't honestly think you'll make any head way.
Alot of past historians have argued this and even brought more than just Maps to prove it but at each time, there has been a counter map and historical background that has proved them wrong.

How can you say obvious tribes that stand alone should agree that they are igbos when even the igbo's feel that not all of them are truely igbo's.
I asked my flate mate who is anambra and he said they are the true igbo's his words "core heart of igbo" and he said the abia's are just outsketch of igbo. Even at marriage time, the igbo's select even within themselves.

So i really don't see you making any head way with this.

NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #29 on: June 30, 2006, 12:33 PM »

Lioness
Quote from: lioness on June 30, 2006, 09:24 AM
what exactly is the truth?
That a black man was once a white man just that the sun heat him too much so he turned black?


This is a different area all together, but meanwhile I ill give you a little insight on this, colour is whether formation, the reason why  black people are black is because they have a lot of melanin in there system and the white people has lesser melanin in there system, that's why they are white, there are people born with very little or no melanin, they are called albinos or ANYANRI in IBO in Europe they are called blond or albinos, this people are born white in every race black or white, don't matter. Melanin is formed due to the body reaction in protecting itself from the rays of the sunshine and passed on to generation  like gene. The black people has it more because there is a lot of sunshine in Africa and the body developed it more to protect itself, I ill give you a little experiment, take the map of Africa, start from north Africa and continue to move down to wards the equator, you will see that the people in the northern part of Africa are whites and as you start going down to wards the equator people get darker and darker, it takes 10,000 years for this process of change to occur.





 

NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #30 on: June 30, 2006, 01:23 PM »

TO lioness
Quote from: lioness on June 30, 2006, 09:24 AM

Did you ever think about this topic deeply, or you just got bored and decided to be noticed.


I told you before be civil in you approach, don't use abusive words, stop this market women style of approach, lets have a healthy argument here.

Quote from: lioness on June 30, 2006, 09:28 AM
NINETOFIVE,

Your map was from 1979 - when we had just how many LGA's Huh
Your theory is that there are about 12 - 15 tribes in Nigeria.
There is a difference between Majority and minority ethnicity. What you have pointed out are major ethnicity and it doesn't mean others don't exist.
1st of all Ijaw is no longer in Portharcourt. Where did tribes such as "Okrika, Kalabari, ndoni, etc" come from. Are they also Igbo? or maybe Edo or Yoruba.



Are you trying to say that after 1979, Nigeria gave birth to other new ethnic minority groups, you are not making a lot of sense here, and also before i forget you should be able to know the difference between LGA's and ethnicity. LGA's are created but ethnicity is something you are born into, or to some extent a natural thing.

The people that drew the map are intellectuals and they have investigated all this things you are trying to pin point and came to a conclusion that is just a mere dialectical differences. how funny and stupid is it going to sound if every town in Delta state is declared an ethnic group just because some few people don't know what is called unity, that would be very cumbersome.

Quote from: lioness on June 30, 2006, 09:28 AM
NINETOFIVE,


If you must exhibit your ignorance, do it with wisdom

Stop living in the past Ok.





please be civilized stop being abusive Embarrassed, Let's come to your comment are you trying to say that Ikwerre was part of IBO in the past and now is no more or what is the living in the past issue.
lioness (f)
Re: Ibo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Ibo
« #31 on: June 30, 2006, 02:13 PM »

Sweetheart, i don't need you to school me on colours Ok.
I already know what effects the sun's got on the human skin.
Nevertheless, You are black because you were made/born black. Even in these dark equators of yours, we still have light skinned humans.
But we are not talking about colours in nigeria.  Tongue

What i said was a metaphorical statement. And i expected you'd understand that as clearly as it was.  Undecided

Quote from: NINETOFIVE on June 30, 2006, 12:33 PM
Lioness
This is a different area all together, but meanwhile I ill give you a little insight on this, colour is whether formation, the reason why  black people are black is because they have a lot of melanin in there system and the white people has lesser melanin in there system, that's why they are white, there are people born with very little or no melanin, they are called albinos or ANYANRI in IBO in Europe they are called blond or albinos, this people are born white in every race black or white, don't matter. Melanin is formed due to the body reaction in protecting itself from the rays of the sunshine and passed on to generation  like gene. The black people has it more because there is a lot of sunshine in Africa and the body developed it more to protect itself, I ill give you a little experiment, take the map of Africa, start from north Africa and continue to move down to wards the equator, you will see that the people in the northern part of Africa are whites and as you start going down to wards the equator people get darker and darker, it takes 10,000 years for this process of change to occur.





 


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