Igbo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Igbo

Don't you know that once you defend a particular ethnic group on this site, or you highlight the raison d'etre for some of their cultural practices, they will label you as a member of that ethnic group? Hehehehe. . . . I know it is a puerile way of adressing issues, but you will soon find out that it is a repeated occurrence on this site. 

Abeg, continue your discussion o jare.  Am learning a lot from this exchange. Oh by the way, are you aware that the title Agbogidi often used as part of the titles of the Obi of Onitsha, was originally a Bini word?

Many of people in hear are speaking for ethnicities that they are not even apart of. Who are you to tell some body who he is or who he isn’t? The only excuse many of you people has is the Nigerian Civil War. According to you all one war caused people to stop saying who they were, and prior to that everybody said they were Igbo. Let me start off by speaking in behalf of the Iwhuruohna (Ikwere) people. You people insist that all Ikwere are Igbo, but that is not true. I am the grandson of the late Dr. Obi Wali, who had three wives, so as far as Ikwere I know everything about the ethnic nationality. Dr. Obi Wali was Igbo to the core, who fought for the people. But the war has nothing to do with the fact that some Ikwere people say they are Igbo while others don’t. Edo migrants came into Ikwere land (Igbo) as refugees at a time(I believe somewhere around the 19th century, although I am not sure), the so called Amandi is one of those migrants. Some of these people came from Benin as a result of Ozolua war. The historical link they have to the war is called Idu. These families adjusted into Igbo society, and soon began adapting Igbo names from generations. Please do not get the ndi-ikwere confused with these people ("nfunala" and the "obia." Different histories), although they are all ikwere the groups have two separate histories, but yet are a united people. Those towns that added the R to their name were not done by any Ikwere officials, despite many people believing so, these were done by Nigerian officials that wanted to invest in oil.

And as for the Ekpeye people, linguistics don’t even define these people as Igbo. (The definition of Igboid is the Igbo and Ekpeye languages.) Ekpeye is clearly its own language separate from the rest of the Igbo languages. The term Eze was not adopted in Ekpeye history officially unitl 1990. Prior to that the name of our kings were called Odu. When ever you go to Ahoda do not confuse the Igbo and the Ekepye people. Most Ahoda people who are from Igboland live in the town houses of Ahoda district, those people are not the Ekpeye. The Ekpeye indigenes live in the villages, and have several small areas all over the place and even spread into Baysesta state. If you still believe this is somehow a trend of denial that is caused by post war go to any Ekpeye village you want there are many elders there who will tell you who they are. Tell me if you want a number to an Ekpeye elder, and I will be happy to give it to you, and when you call these people tell them that they are Igbo. 

Please lets use logics and facts, before you go in some ones way of telling who they are, know who the people are, speak to the elders, and know the history.

By your own words,you've clearly agreed to what we've all been saying.
Some people have come on here and clearly stated that all Ikwerres were not Igbos,just looked and sounded like Igbos and I called them liars.

There is no way on Gods earth that a group of people would migrate from somewhere and loose almost all of their identity to take on another when they were not captured by war,that does not sound reasonable.
I agreed that at best a small minority of these folks came from somewhere other than Igboland Even in my own village there is an clan that came from another poart of Igboland and for generations,everyone knows that and they bear names not common in my area.

How did Ikwerre people stop bearing bini names and adopt Igbo names,igbo last names,igbo titles,name their villages Igbo names.have Igbo festivals,speak igbo dialect?
How did that happen?

There are so many variants to the history you stated above.

Don't mind people like Laudate who live for nothing other than division in the Igbo house. People who are Igbo know themselves, someone telling me people from Ahoda or Ogwashi Ukwu are not Igbo, get a life!

Donzman, obviously you have a problem. Go and look for the source of your problem and stop blaming it on me. In what way did Laudate cause division in the Igbo house, ehn? Is it because I said one of the names among the titles that the Obi of Onitsha has, is actually a Bini word? Is it a lie? Why can't you stick to the facts, and present your arguments without descending into the realm of insults?

Or because the people of Igbo and Non-Igbo origin are one group, they are neither Igbo nor Edo, but Ikwerre.

Donzman it seems that you are dodging the facts to insist that you are correct.
There are igbos in Lagos, there are igbos in kano, there are igbos in calabar, and there are igbos in houston, usa
just because igbo people reside in these areas does not mean that it is igbo territory.

The Igbo people that live in Ahoda have their families and communities mostly in Abia and Imo States
Outside of Ahoda town house communities is home to the Ekpeye people and Engengi people where they have their family, villages, and communities in
Leave my people alone, abeg. How many Ekpeye people do you know? Do you speak Ekpeye?

In my lifetime I have seen with my eyes an Igbo man say Ashanti people are Igbo, the whole Yorubra race is igbo, and all of Cameroon is Igbo also, if they can make comments like this, speak less of the neighboring groups that are around them. With all this, it is common knowledge that Igbos are truely a proud race, proud enough to tell people who they are at times.

As far as the Ikwere of Edo origin in places like Diobu and some in P-town those people are very distinct from the rest of the Ikweres in customs and tradition. And some of those people still have Benin names, whether you believe it or not.That is why there are dozen of Ikwere dialects. And once again the Ikwere distinction did not become because of the war or politics as you people insist, before the war Ikweres musicians were even bashing Igbo people in their music for living in their land.

Before you go out of your way to testify something you have no information on, please give way to those individuals who have far more knowledge on Ikwere people than you do, especially those who have their blood family in those communities.

You guys keep making moot points, Onitsha people claim they descended from Bini and share some traditions with Bini people I assume, are they non-Igbos now?. . .I don't understand why people do not get it, what makes you Igbo is the fact that you speak the damn language.

@Lakal


What custom do all Igbos share exactly?. . .You might want to show me something that Igbos from Nsukka and Oraifite absolutely share in common!

At baby o you miss the point of my post. Majority of Ikwere people are Igbos, but the ones who have a connection with Edo in the 19th century are the ones that say they are Ikwere and not Igbo, Ikweres are very diverse people. This is why there is confusion in this with this Ikwerre/Igbo thing.
Does migrating into Igbo land make you Igbo?
What about the Igbo s in Kano, does that mean that they are hausa or northerners or what ever.

@Donzman I heard onitsha people came from Igala also ,

but in this post even people who don't speak the Igbo language have been bombarded with Igbo radicals to say they are Igbo

you are one of the first non Igboman to say this here.
Even an Ikwerre girl that contributed here earlier told us Ikwerre people were not Igbo.
your migration analogy is not the same.

where is odili from?
he once said he was Igbo?,no?
How can one group be so varied as to what they really are?
when did this so called migration tale place?

are you saying that the fact that they migrated in the 19th century to Ikwere part of igbo land makes them Igbo?
do research yourself when you go to Ikwerre land on the orgins of the people.
and having ikwerre family, myself, i am saying that not all ikweres are igbo, simple.
i don't care what the ikwere girl on this post said earlier, all of my ikwerre family is igbo
it may not be the same for her, once again she must be one of the familes that came from benin in the 19th century roughly 200 years ago
and i m telling you not all ikwere are ndi igbo
if you need me to say it in igbo language so you can understand i will,

we re just argueing back and forth,  I'm through since you seem not to get the message

ebeledi,I wonder why you're being rude,it's uncalled for.
The internet is filled with Ikwerre people that say Ikwerre people as a whole are not Igbo but Ikwerre and that they bear Igbo names and have Igbo culture because they are near Igboland and have intermarried with Igbos.

I have not read one that said what you have just said which is the stand of all Igbos.
Just like there are people of Sierre leonian ancestry in Lagos does not make Lagos a non Yoruba land.
The few non Yoruba ones whose ancestors migrated back even from Brazil did not change the tribal name,get it?
Migrations do occur no doubt,but  those are in the very small minority and the fact that the majority Igbo tribe in Ikwerre chose to call themselves Ikwerre and not Igbo as a tribe is shameful,nothing stopped them from being Igbo and let the migrants from wherever identify themselves by whatever name they choose.It's allowed.

But politics is the game.

Ikwerre is their locality,it is not a tribe in the true sense of the word.
That the majority Igbos amongst them chose to be called something else is shameful.
That alone makes me think they are not really Igbos,Igbos are proud of their heritage and will not allow others define them.

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http://www.anioma.org/About.htm

what is new?
Any idiot can write any thing and get it on the internet does it make him correct?
Just like some have written Ikwerre are not Igbo and others say majority of Ikwerre are Igbo,it's a free world.

Just because a man chooses to call a snake "the long thing" doesn't make it any less dangerous.
You are yet to answer my question!

By the way did you know that Ohaneze ndi Igbo recently had an anioma man as an executive?
Of course you wouldn't know such things.
Your wealth of knowledge is limited to the www.

in what way did that post call you an idiot?
any person can post anything on the internet was my point.
read carefully.
people like you with absolutely no knowledge of Igbos but parade "knowledge" annoy me.

I have a brother inlaw that participates actively in the "world Igbo Congress" and you are here trying to prove that his tribal origin is something else,so he doesn't know what he is?

By the way he is from delta state.
I know several others from Agbor,Asaba,Ogwashi,even my landlord in Benin from Isele Uku identified themselves as Igbos with no attachments.
Stick to topics you can defend.

Which 'dog' did you bring in here? The ones in your district, or your home? Kindly let us know. If name-calling is the latest set of antics from which you get your kicks, it merely shows you have nothing in that thing, you call a brain. If I decide to respond to you appropriately, in the same nasty language that resonates with you, you will not find it funny.
 
Secondly, you have absolutely no right to tell me what topics I can contribute to, or which ones I must stay away from. Are you the owner of nairaland? Or did you contribute the funds to set up this website?

NineToFive, get a life! And stop seeking for relevance by vomiting cheap, juvenile insults!