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NINETOFIVE (m)
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You're STILL incorrect, ninetofive. Molodovian (which is similar to Romanian) is a ROMANCE language.
Stick to what you know.
moldavsky est slaviansky yop tvayo mat pidar, ne schutit sam mnoy blat.
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Donzman (m)
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All these Moldova, Stupidova talks are unneccesary because they do not apply here. Igbo language is a continuum of dialects, if your dialect falls into that continuum, you speak Igbo, end of story. All these communities we're been arguing over here have languages which fall into that continuum. There is no unique Igbo language so this argument by Lakal is seriously INVALID.
Try something else because when it comes to language, these communities speak Igbo which is why they're Igbos.
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lakal (m)
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Sorry Donzman, but it's not that simple. Why are the Itsekiris not Yoruba, even though they speak (pretty much) the same language? Answer me that, and you'll have your answer for why certain Delta Igbo-speaking people do not view themselves as Igbos.
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Donzman (m)
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You ask stupid questions. Why are the Spanish not Portuguese? Same reason, that's why the Itsekiris are not Yoruba, Itsekiris do not speak Yoruba, stop lying to yourself. Igbo language is not like any of these languages, the language differs widely from on locale to another which is why many people including Chinua Achebe disagree on any standard Igbo. Almost every community have their own modification of the language but after it's all said and done, they all fall into the continuum. If you do not know what a dialect continuum is, you can read up here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialect_continuumIn the true sense of it, the Igbo language is a dialect continuum with very wide variance often placed at 30 different dialects. So do not come in here and argue that just because someone speaks a different dialect, he/she is not "Igbo". What exactly is your "main or standard" Igbo language that others are judged from to determine which one is really Igbo and which one isn't?. . .There is none to begin with so your argument is flawed due to your lack of UNDERSTANDING of what you're trying to discuss. You probably think Igbo is like Yoruba or some other language, sorry bro.! Region Abia State, Anambra State, Aguata, Anambra, Awka, Idemili, Ihiala, Njikoka, Nnewi, and Onitsha LGAs; Enugu State, Awgu, Enugu, Ezeagu, Igo-Etiti, Igbo-Eze, Isi-Uzo, Nkanu, Nsukka, Udi, and Uzo-Uwani LGAs; Imo State; Rivers State, Ikwerre, Bonny, and Ahoada LGAs; Delta State, Oshimili, Aniocha, and Ndokwa LGAs; Akwa Ibom State, Ika LGA. The states where Igbo is spoken as the only or majority language are Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu, and Imo. It is also spoken in the northeast of Delta State and the southeast of Rivers State, Oyigbo LGA and the Opobo part of Opobo-Nkoro LGA, and alongside Ibani in Bonny LGA.
Dialects Owerri (Isuama), Onitsha, Umuahia, Orlu, Ngwa, Afikpo, Nsa, Oguta, Aniocha, Eche, Egbema, Oka (Awka), Bonny-Opobo, Mbaise, Nsuka, Ohuhu, Unwana. 30 dialects vary in inherent intelligibility. The standard literary form is developing based on the dialects of Owerri and Umuahia, omitting the nasality and aspiration found in those dialects.
All thse areas speak Igbo and for that they're Igbos, whether YOU Lakal likes it or not. @ebeledi There are NATIVE Igbo speakers in Ahoada LGA, not Ekpeye speakers, native Igbo speakers so obviously the people I've met from Ahoada are the Igbos, not the Ekpeyes who I'm sorry to say number only about 30,000.
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lakal (m)
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Don't be a fool Donzman.  Yoruba is also a dialect continuum (as is almost EVERY Nigerian language), for example Ondo, Ekiti, Ijesha, Ijebu, and Igbomina are all different dialects (not always mutually understood) under the Yoruba family. Itsekiris speak a dialect that is VERY close to Ondo dialects, especially Ikale/Ilaje. The reason that Itsekiris are considered a distinct ethnic group (even though they speak a Yoruba dialect and many of their names are standard Yoruba names) is because culturally an politically, they are distinctive. Also the fact that they view themselves as being related to the Yoruba BUT distinctive. Try another argument.
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lakal (m)
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Dialects The Yoruba dialect continuum itself consists of over fifteen varieties which can be classified into three major dialect areas: Northwest, Central, and Southeast.[6] Of course, clear boundaries can never be drawn and peripheral areas of dialectal regions often have some similarities to adjoining dialects.
North-West Yoruba (NWY). Abẹokuta, Ibadan, Ọyọ, Ọsun and Lagos areas Central Yoruba (CY) Igbomina, Ifẹ, Ekiti, Akurẹ, Ẹfọn, and Ijẹsa areas. South-East Yoruba (SEY) Okitipupa, Ondo, Ọwọ, Ṣagamu, and parts of Ijẹbu. North-West Yoruba is historically a part of the Oyo empire. In NWY dialects, Proto-Yoruba /gh/ (the velar fricative [ɣ]) and /gw/ have merged into /w/; the upper vowels /i ̣/ and /ụ/ were raised and merged with /i/ and /u/, just as their nasal counterparts, resulting in a vowel system with seven oral and three nasal vowels. Ethnographically, traditional government is based on a division of power between civil and war chiefs; lineage and descent are unilineal and agnatic.
South-East Yoruba was probably associated with the expansion of the Benin Empire after c. 1450 AD.[7] In contrast to NWY, lineage and descent are largely multilineal and cognatic, and the division of titles into war and civil is unknown. Linguistically, SEY has retained the /gh/ and /gw/ contrast, while it has lowered the nasal vowels /ịn/ and /ụn/ to /ẹn/ and /ọn/, respectively. SEY has collapsed the second and third person plural pronominal forms; thus, àn án wá can mean either 'you (pl.) came' or 'they came' in SEY dialects, whereas NWY for example has ẹ wá 'you (pl.) came' and wọ́n wá 'they came', respectively. The emergence of a plural of respect may have prevented coalescence of the two in NWY dialects.
Central Yoruba forms a transitional area in that the lexicon has much in common with NWY, whereas it shares many ethnographical features with SEY. Its vowel system is the least innovating of the three dialect groups, having retained nine oral-vowel contrasts and six or seven nasal vowels, and an extensive vowel harmony system.
[edit] Standard Yoruba Main article: Standard Yoruba Standard Yoruba (also known as literary Yoruba, the Yoruba koiné, common Yoruba and often simply as Yoruba) is a separate member of the dialect cluster. It is the written form of the language, the standard variety learnt at school and that spoken by newsreaders on the radio. Standard Yoruba has its origin in the 1850's, when Samuel A. Crowther, native Yoruba and the first African Bishop, published a Yoruba grammar and started his translation of the Bible. Though for a large part based on the Ọyọ and Ibadan dialects, Standard Yoruba incorporates several features from other dialects[8]. Additionally, it has some features peculiar to itself only, for example the simplified vowel harmony system, as well as foreign structures, such as calques from English which originated in early translations of religious works.
Because the use of Standard Yoruba did not result from some deliberate linguistic policy, much controversy exists as to what constitutes 'genuine Yoruba', with some writers holding the opinion that the Ọyọ dialect is the most pure form, and others stating that there is no such thing as genuine Yoruba at all. Standard Yoruba, the variety learnt at school and used in the media, has nonetheless been a powerful consolidating factor in the emergence of a common Yoruba identity. And from the Ugbajo Itsekiri USA website, a report by J. O. S Ayomike "Whichever is the source of the word, these myths are so strong in ltsekiri-land that one tends to believe one or the other.In several waves of migration before the 15th Century, and some a little later, groups from Igala in Nupe country came in through the creeks; Yoruba from ljebu-Ode, Akure and Owo found their way into parts of the Kingdom and a group from Aboh also came in. Some along the coast came in through Gulani/Amatu. No wonder the historian John Sagay(5) says "that the people who constitute. the tribe called ltsekiri have diverse origins". And Stride and ifeka(6) say that "the ltsekiri are probably a mixture of several people …… And in my book(7) published early this year; I have said."Before long this hotch-potch of several peoples from Ode, the coast via Arnatu or Gulani Aboh, Akure and Owo, Igala in Nupe country and Benin welded into a coherent ethnic group which is today called ltsekiri. They synthesized a Yoruba dialect whose vocabulary today has been widened by the infusion of a large number of Portuguese, English and Bini words."
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laudate
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Don't be a fool Donzman.  Yoruba is also a dialect continuum (as is almost EVERY Nigerian language), for example Ondo, Ekiti, Ijesha, Ijebu, and Igbomina are all different dialects (not always mutually understood) under the Yoruba family. Itsekiris speak a dialect that is VERY close to Ondo dialects, especially Ikale/Ilaje.Oh dear!! Another Donzman myth, exploded! *sigh* 
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babyosisi (f)
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Sorry Donzman, but it's not that simple. Why are the Itsekiris not Yoruba, even though they speak (pretty much) the same language? Answer me that, and you'll have your answer for why certain Delta Igbo-speaking people do not view themselves as Igbos.
Itsekiri my calloused feet! when did they become part of this discussion? Are Itsekiris from a land called Itsekiri? Ikwerres are from Ikwerre and Anioma people are from Anioma. These are localities not tribes. Yorubas are not from a place called Yoruba neither are Efiks from Efik! It may take you days to get this oneread through your arguments again and again and if it doesn't sound funny to you,someone ought to refund the school fees paid on youir behalf. You have continually dodged my question as to why abor,agbor,anioma and Ikwerre were listed under an umbrella Igbo organisation. again,keep away from topics you cannot contribute intelligently to. 
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Donzman (m)
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Lakal, Itsekiri language is not Yoruba, end of story, you can keep beating a dead horse and Donzman won't care.
Even if Yoruba is a dialect continuum, it is a very limited one. Infact even if Itsekiri is a Yoruba language, that doesn't make them Yoruba because I assume Yorubas are defined by more than language.
On the other hand, the Igbo dialect continuum is EXTENSIVE and Igbos as a whole are defined by speaking that language. Several other communities have their own specific customs, traditions and ancestry which define them as a community of Anioma, Anaedo, Ukwuani, Ohafia, Owerri people and etcetera(Notice how the first three groups have "Ani" in their names and we have you claiming they're not Igbos!) . What brings them into the larger IGBO group is the fact that they speak a language that falls into the Igbo dialect continuum.
Every community is unique when it comes to customs/traditions with cultural differences directly proportional to distance between groups. What makes all of these communities - whose AUTONOMY have been long established - Igbos is the fact that they speak the language. Every Igbo community have always had their autonomy as opposed to the impression you might be trying to pass along that all Igbos fall under some canopy of central governance. Iselle Ukwy people can remain Iselle Ukwu people as they have been since time immemorial but on the larger scale, they are Igbos.
Try another argument as to why they are not Igbos because culturally and in terms of dialect, Igbos are as DIVERSE as they come which I attribute to our republican nature. Such a political setup encourages diversity and I'm not surprised.
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lakal (m)
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Donzman, do you speak Yoruba or are you a certified linguist to say if it's a limited dialect continuum? It's a combination of dialects, "standard Yoruba" is simply one major dialect. Who gave you the authority to say so? And Yorubas are diverse culturally as well--I think it's more along the lines of self-identification, as well as common cultural elements. Yoruba is defined pretty much like Igbo is! While Itsekiris are Yoruboid, they are NOT Yoruba, and are a distinct people This comparison is highly relevant, as anything you can say about Itsekiris could also apply to various groups in the Delta region.
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lakal (m)
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Babyosisi, your argument is hilarious at best. So Ukwuanis are from one place called "Ukwuani?"  You should also try to go towards arguments you can contribute intelligently to.  And when given the evidence from representative of these groups (via the web) you also shied away from answering to why THEY THEMSELVES considered themselves distinct.
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lakal (m)
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Issele-Uku http://issele-ukuassociationofhouston.org/page8.htmlBRIEF HISTORY OF ISSELE-UKU
Isi-Ile-Uku, “Issele-Uku” Kingdom was founded by the Binis in about 1230 AD by Oba Eweka 1 of Benin Empire and first Ogie of the kingdom was Prince Uwadiaie who was the second son of Oba Eweka 1.
The original name of the new kingdom carved out of Benin Empire “Isi-Ile-Uku” signifies relationship with the Benis and Oba of Benin-City ‘Uku akpolokpolo Omonoba n’edo’.
When Oba Eweka 1 created the new Benin outpost of Isi-Ile-Uku now pronounced Issele-Uku, his main objectives was to check and stop the influx of the movement of people from East of the River Niger, and people from Igala land into the Edo land West of the River Niger, for farming and fishing operations. Also to use Isi-Ile-Uku, the new outpost and kingdom, as a defensive outpost to the Benin Empire and moreover for expansion purposes.
Prince Uwadiaie, the second son of Oba Eweka 1, was crowned Ogie ‘King’ by his father Oba Eweka1 of Benin Empire about 1230 A.D. and sent to rule the Bini new kingdom of ISI-ILE-UKU in company of a group of Binis, worriors, administrators, chiefs and other princes of the royal family of Benin from Ogbe, Ehaekpen, Idumu Inaleibiwe, idumu Igun, Idumu Iken, Idumu Isama and Idumu Ugboka. Members of the royal family of Benin were settled at Ehaekpen of Issele-Uku.
These Bini quarters – Ogbe and Idumu are now called Isheakpe, Ogbidibo, Idumu-Inele Ebigwe, Idumu Uzu, Idumu Ikem, Idumu Ozoma, Idumu Onishe, Idumu Ihama, Idumu Isama and Idumu Edemoka “Umu edomoka” at Ogboli. The present language of the people of Issele-Uku has changed slightly the original pronounciations.
The Oba of Benin in the days of old had real suzerainty over the kingdom of ISI-ILE-UKU. The new kingdom of ISI-ILE-UKU was gladly hailed in Benin then as an Eastern extension of Benin empire. In fact, the kings of ISI-ILE-UKU have paraphernalia and relics of kingly office as the Oba of Benin and performs the same yearly festival – Ugie ro ‘Oba – “Uje ine Aho Obi” at Issele-Uku.
The kings of ISI-ILE-UKU “ISSELE-UKU” are the true representatives of the Oba of Benin in the area lying to the West of the River Niger and as such the Obi “king” of Issele-Uku has a position of authority as the oba’s authentic representative in the Eastern extremeties of the great Benin Empire
The custom and tradition of Benin is the same at Issele-Uku and the influence of Bini language can be noticed or traced in the Ika-Ibo language of the people of ISI-ILE-UKU “ISSELE-UKU”.
The Oba of Benin continues to crown the Obis of Issele-Uku until presently when he sends Chiefs to officiate for him on the crowning of any new Obi “king” of ISI-ILE-UKU “ISSELE-UKU”. Although the Ika-Ibo Language predominates at Issele-Uku nowadays and it was due mainly to the fact that there were more interactions with the later Ibo founded towns around Issele-Uku than Benin-City which is situated a long distance away.
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Donzman (m)
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@Lakal
Notice your story didn't say that Iselle Uku was a wilderness, it said the town was founded by Oba Eweka just like many towns were founded by Europeans even though we have people living there. I wonder since when Obi became a Bini word all in an attempt to distort history in order to fit your faulty views. I suppose Asaba people and Onitsha people are not Igbos as well, you are a big joke with these articles.
Every Igbo group is distinct and have their own ancestry thanks to our republican nature so your argument has been invalid 4 pages back, Donzman won't engage you any further because you're not getting the point. The point isn't that we all descended from the same place, or that we all have the same culture, or that we are a homogenous society, or that there has been no external migration into Igbo land. The point is that we all speak Igbo and that is why we are all Igbos, if you cannot get the point, I'm sorry for you!
Obviously you have no words of your own and you cannot read neither can you comprehend. I never told you Iselle Uku people or any Igbo community for that matter have similar ancestry that make them Igbos. I've always told you that the fact that they speak Igbo is what makes them Igbo.
P.S.: Your Isi-Ile-Uku thing sounds like 925 saying Oduduwa is an Igbo word by distorting the origins and telling us it's supposed to be odudu nwa (which means last child in Igbo). You can make Southern Nigerian words whatever you want if you insist on twisting and molding but it is what it is. There are many Igbo communities with Ukwu or Uku in their names and Issele Uku is no different. We have Enugwu Ukwu, Igbo Ukwu and etcetera so please STOP THE DISTORTION AND MISINFORMATION. They speak Igbo in Iselle Ukwu and the name of the town doesn't depart from the name given to other Igbo towns.
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lakal (m)
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Donzman, I don't think that any Igbo hsitorian would dispute that "obi" is a Bini word, especially as the other terms for kingship regalia come from Bini. And apparently some Onitsha people consider themselves distinct from their neighbors, care to etymologize "Onitsha Ado n'Idu?"
And you never answered why Edo-speaking Ikas, Yoruba-speaking Ikas (Olukwumi in Odiani), and Isoko-speaking Ukwuanis consider themselves to be Ika or Ukwuani respectively, not Edo or Isoko.
For my final point: language=/= ethnicity.
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lakal (m)
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But sorry Donzman, not trying to distort history. The only reason for the "Isi-Ile-Uku" article was because it was from a Issele-Uku website, not that I was trying to prove that the name came from elsewhere or that they don't speak Ika.
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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Quote from: lakal on June 10, 2007, 11:19 PM And for the last time, I'm not Ukwuani, PLEASE stop saying 'you guys' to me.
Hey! people I think is high time you start thinking of not paying attention to all the people that are coming here to argue that Ukwuani and Anioma are not Igbos, every of them are just propagandist feeding off the notion that the Igbos are not united, isn't it Ironic that most of the people that argues or fuel [laudate] this arguments are not from the area in question, what is in it for them? Iwas at a party today with many ukwuani people , and the Nigerian Issue came up, this Ukwuani guys said that if the next president did not from we Igbos [they said ''we'' Igbos meaning that they are equally Igbos], that Nigerians are actually asking for problems, nobody comes here and say am from Ukwuani, Ukwuani is not Igbo, what an Irony that is strangers that spear heads this argument, from This moment am officially not interest in what ever any ones says, Ikwerre people are mostly Igbos, Ukwuani is Igbo and so is Anioma, stop giving the fools fueling this argument legitimacy.
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Donzman (m)
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@Lakal
It's obvious you know anything about Igbo culture, "Obi" has existed before you were born. Every family unit where I come from has an Obi and we do not have any Bini ancestry. I wonder why Onitsha people name their king Obi, Asaba people name them Eze and Asagba while others name Eze, all are groups with "supposedly" Bini influence.
I suppose people from my village had Bini influence too, that is why they call their family heads Obi. That is why we have names like Obieyi-ibeya where I come from (One Obi does not look like another). I suppose they got the Obi from Bini people, nonsense! I also assume from your explanation that it is due to Bini influence that the place where the family head entertain visitors is called OZOBI in many parts of Igbo land. Obi has always been a title of leadership in Igboland for a LONG LONG time.
Like I've told you before, all Igbo societies are DISTINCT so every group consider themselves distinct. I lived in Onitsha for 14 years and if they're not Igbo, you have to come out and carefully tell me what makes one Igbo and what doesn't.
Now Lakal, since you can't process the idea that all Igbo communities are DISTINCT, I believe for this argument to get anywhere, you should carefully state what makes a society Igbo and another non-Igbo. When you state your conditions, then we will proceed accordingly.
@925
I've noticed the same thing with these people, I have family in Delta state and I have Lakal telling me they're not Igbo, like I do not know what they are. When you even go further than that, it's obvious they know nothing about Igbo societies. I wonder what makes an Onitsha man Igbo and makes an Iselle Uku man something else!
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Donzman (m)
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By the way, I'm done with this topic, Lakal does not really know much and I'm not a good teacher. If you do not want to be Igbo, go ahead, Donzman does not care and is only telling you what the knows. My grandma from Asaba sees herself as Igbo and I see her as such but to Lakal, she is not. Ukwuani people around 925 referred to themselves as Igbo but Lakal says they're not because. . . HE HAS NEVER ACTUALLY GIVEN US A REASON! Go figure this guy's level of intelligence! Here is what someone from the same aread said (same thing I've been hammering into this Lakal for DAYS): I came accross this question while browsing, both my parents are from two towns one is is IKA and one iselle- ukwu. In my own experience the "languages" they speak aren't truly langauges but dialects as they are mutually intelligible. When I was going to delta our driver was from somwhere in anambra he stopped at iseele-ukwu and started bargaing for bananas in ibo. no one of the girls selling looked at each other dumbfouned as if he had come from Mars.
The reason for this observation is this. The quetsion is wether the "delta ibo" irrespective of cultural differences and poltical affiliations are ibo people( as in ibo speaking people )? The answer is yes. Irrespective of what IKA pople(with the Edo influence) believe politically or what some "Ndi-Igbo"(that were are not ibo-- "igbo-hausa") say they speak the same language(dialectic differences allowed) and that is what binds them. IT IS NOT A POLTICAL STATEMENT. Igbo/ibo land as a lingusitic entity begins at UMUNEDE and proceeds east across the Niger. Go ahead, tell him he's not Igbo, NONSENSE! Igbo people is nothing other than Igbo-speaking people, now keep playing around, Donzman won't spoonfeed you anymore. From now on, I'll just take this guy's viewpoint: http://odili.net/news/source/2006/oct/3/304.htmlInfact, deny your identity all you want!
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laudate
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Donzman, do you speak Yoruba or are you a certified linguist to say if it's a limited dialect continuum? It's a combination of dialects, "standard Yoruba" is simply one major dialect. Abeg, make una ask am o! 
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ebeledi (m)
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Itsekiri my calloused feet! when did they become part of this discussion? Are Itsekiris from a land called Itsekiri? Ikwerres are from Ikwerre and Anioma people are from Anioma. These are localities not tribes. Yorubas are not from a place called Yoruba neither are Efiks from Efik! It may take you days to get this oneread through your arguments again and again and if it doesn't sound funny to you,someone ought to refund the school fees paid on youir behalf. You have continually dodged my question as to why abor,agbor,anioma and Ikwerre were listed under an umbrella Igbo organisation. again,keep away from topics you cannot contribute intelligently to.  who told you that ikweres are from a place called ikwerre, i don't know where you get your info from, but there is no way a poplulation of 2 million people can reside in one LGA ikwerres are the majority of rivers and they are found in p-town, obio-akpor, ikwere, and some in ogba land
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ebeledi (m)
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@ Donzman
There are NATIVE Igbo speakers in Ahoada LGA, not Ekpeye speakers, native Igbo speakers so obviously the people I've met from Ahoada are the Igbos, not the Ekpeyes who I'm sorry to say number only about 30,000. there are igbos in ahoda, but i never heard of any natives! If there are tell me their clan and villages. ahoda is straight up ekpeyeland. by the way there number is not 30, 000 but 140,000 +. populations counts in nigeria (73) were usually done as regionally, so the that info u got was of 73
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babyosisi (f)
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lol so a local government area is now the basis? Prior to the creation of rivers state and its LGAs what were they?
are Ikwerre people chained down to one place that they can't migrate anywhere else? Please don't make me laugh,I spent sometime in PH .
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ebeledi (m)
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so your saying before the creation of rivers state that they didnt call themselves ikweri people
please don't make me laugh
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ebeledi (m)
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regardless of your hypothesis there majority of those people have always been ikwerre igbo
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babyosisi (f)
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No. You are the one saying there is nothing like a place called Ikwerre,using LGA as your argument.
LGA is a man made division of land. The same reason Ikwerre is a part of Rivers state rather than Imo state. Crossing a river does not make one a brand new tribe.
Notwithstanding,since I read from you here,I wish all the earlier Ikwerre argumentators arguing that Ikwerres were no way Igbo should return and read your posts. I was accused of a crime of daring say most Ikwerre people are Igbo. and that the tribe Ikwerre is like me saying I am Ngwa not Igbo Most denied their Igbo origin to join in stealing property in PH after the war.
Even the Ijaws they were so happy to answer the name "rivers" with call them what they are "Igbos" when the politics come down to the nitty gritty. Who's foolong who?
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ebeledi (m)
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Most denied their Igbo origin to join in stealing property in PH after the war.
na lie
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mohadana
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BRIEF HISTORY OF ISSELE-UKU
As chronicled by Prince Chris Afumata Akeh- Osu in The History of Great Isi-Ile-Uku (Issele-Uku) Kingdom
Isi-Ile-Uku, “Issele-Uku” Kingdom was founded by the Binis in about 1230 AD by Oba Eweka 1 of Benin Empire and first Ogie of the kingdom was Prince Uwadiaie who was the second son of Oba Eweka 1.
The original name of the new kingdom carved out of Benin Empire “Isi-Ile-Uku” signifies relationship with the Benis and Oba of Benin-City ‘Uku akpolokpolo Omonoba n’edo’.
When Oba Eweka 1 created the new Benin outpost of Isi-Ile-Uku now pronounced Issele-Uku, his main objectives was to check and stop the influx of the movement of people from East of the River Niger, and people from Igala land into the Edo land West of the River Niger, for farming and fishing operations. Also to use Isi-Ile-Uku, the new outpost and kingdom, as a defensive outpost to the Benin Empire and moreover for expansion purposes.
Prince Uwadiaie, the second son of Oba Eweka 1, was crowned Ogie ‘King’ by his father Oba Eweka1 of Benin Empire about 1230 A.D. and sent to rule the Bini new kingdom of ISI-ILE-UKU in company of a group of Binis, worriors, administrators, chiefs and other princes of the royal family of Benin from Ogbe, Ehaekpen, Idumu Inaleibiwe, idumu Igun, Idumu Iken, Idumu Isama and Idumu Ugboka. Members of the royal family of Benin were settled at Ehaekpen of Issele-Uku. These Bini quarters – Ogbe and Idumu are now called Isheakpe, Ogbidibo, Idumu-Inele Ebigwe, Idumu Uzu, Idumu Ikem, Idumu Ozoma, Idumu Onishe, Idumu Ihama, Idumu Isama and Idumu Edemoka “Umu edomoka” at Ogboli. The present language of the people of Issele-Uku has changed slightly the original pronounciations.
The Oba of Benin in the days of old had real suzerainty over the kingdom of ISI-ILE-UKU. The new kingdom of ISI-ILE-UKU was gladly hailed in Benin then as an Eastern extension of Benin empire. In fact, the kings of ISI-ILE-UKU have paraphernalia and relics of kingly office as the Oba of Benin and performs the same yearly festival – Ugie ro ‘Oba – “Uje ine Aho Obi” at Issele-Uku.
The kings of ISI-ILE-UKU “ISSELE-UKU” are the true representatives of the Oba of Benin in the area lying to the West of the River Niger and as such the Obi “king” of Issele-Uku has a position of authority as the oba’s authentic representative in the Eastern extremeties of the great Benin Empire
The custom and tradition of Benin is the same at Issele-Uku and the influence of Bini language can be noticed or traced in the Ika-Ibo language of the people of ISI-ILE-UKU “ISSELE-UKU”.
The Oba of Benin continues to crown the Obis of Issele-Uku until presently when he sends Chiefs to officiate for him on the crowning of any new Obi “king” of ISI-ILE-UKU “ISSELE-UKU”. Although the Ika-Ibo Language predominates at Issele-Uku nowadays and it was due mainly to the fact that there were more interactions with the later Ibo founded towns around Issele-Uku than Benin-City which is situated a long distance away.
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mohadana
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Origin Of Ubulu-Uku ||King Ezemu ||| Obi Ofulue | St Anthony's & Anglican Colleges || Festival | |Origin Of Ubulu-Uku | The Colonial Era| || Ubulu Uku Development Union ||
Ezemu was a hunter of un-equalled marksmanship, a herbalist who was known just in ubulu-uku and its immediate environs but down to every corner of the one time Benin Empire. He was so famous as a herbalist that the Oba of Benin during his time invited him to Benin to prepare certain herbs for him. “Izo-Idayi”. This helped to prolong the life of the Oba and so he told his successor to invite Ezemu or his descendants to prepare the same medicine for him any time he came to the throne. Before arriving at Ubulu –UKU however, Ezemu and his brothers first settled at Ubulu-unor. It was from Ubulu-Unor that Ezemu left for Ubulu-Uku. “Ubulu” is the name of a huge tree which today stands at the centre of Ubulu-uku. “UKU” means big or huge. It was at the foot of this tree ( which still exists today but which has experienced severe burns) that Ezemu pitched tent. A deep gulley was adjacent to the tree, and the presence of water attracted the wandering normand.
From Afor To Ubulu-Unor
In fact Ubulu oral tradition states categorically that the grand-parents of Ezemu migrated from Israel and settled at Ife hence Ezemu was often referred to as the king with long hairs – “Ezi Isi Iyomiyo”. From Ife Ezemu and his relations migrated to Afor a village in present day Ndokwa Local Government Area of Delta State.
After a long stay in Afor, Ezemu’s parents assembled five of their namely Obodo, Ezemu, Alibo, Aniga and Ekelie and asked them to get ready to migrate and found other settlements.
Before they left Afor, their parents gave them a pot (Ududu) containing a mixture of some herbs and instructed them to settle anywhere the pot fell, each facing a different direction. While wandering from place to place they came to Ubulu-Unor, the pot fell and they settled there as their parents had instructed them. It was from Ubulu-Unor that Ezemu went to found Ubulu-Uku.
Ezemu Moves To Ubulu-Uku
When Ezemu made up his mind to settle in ubulu-uku he went and pleaded with his sister Obodo to come and join him. She refused told Ezemu that since he, Ezemu had founded a new and bigger Ubulu ( Ubulu-Uku) their first settlement should be called a home (Ubulu-Unor).
There was also the strong argument that Obodo was never the king of ubulu-unor because she was a woman neither were her descendants kings of ubulu-unor rather they have always been and are the Okpalas of Umuata (the descendants of obodo).
Ezemu had two children , one boy called Ijedinka-Jezie and one girl called Ozim. Since Ijedinka-Jezie was the only son, Ezemu hoped that he would succeed him on the throne and so he was grooming him with the role. He had the hope that Ozim would be given out in marriage.
Introduction
Ubulu-uku is situated some thirty kilometres (30kms) west of the River Niger in Aniocha South Local Government Area of Delta State. Eastwards it shares a boundary with Ogwashi-Uku, westwards with Obior; northwards with Issele-Uku and southwards with Ubulu-Unor.
Ubulu Uku is sited in an undulating environment with its Enugu-Iyi and Abuedo end at the top of a long stretch of hills, while its centre, fanning out from the Ubulu tree, to Isho, Akwu, Ogbeofu, Idumu-Osume etc are located in a valley.Rolling down these hills are rivers which run through the entire clan to the sea through other neighbouring clans. Iyi Agor ( River Agor) stands out prominently among these.
Ubulu-Uku is the largest and most populated town in Aniocha Local Government Area. Topograhically it is a hilly town that could be easily compared to Agbor in Delta State, Auchi in Edo State and Ibadan in Oyo State. This hilly nature of the town accounts for the serious problem of erosion which it faces. The Problem has made some of the streets impassable especially the street leading from the major road to Ogbeofu.
On the other hand when one looks at the town from any of the hilly spots especially at night, one sees a beautiful scenery that could be said to be one of the best that nature has bestowed on this part of the earth. The town has one major stream called Iyi-Agor which was the main source of water supply before the advent of pipe-borne water. A few other minor streams like Nkpitime-Isho, Iyi-Nta, Iyi-Eko and Iyi-Ozala also serve people in various parts of the town.
Three major roads run through the town . One runs from Asaba via Ibusa to ogwashi-uku then through Ubulu-uku to Obior and Umunede. The second road branches out from Ubulu-uku to umunede road at Idumu-Osume village via Akwu village and then to Issele-Uku. The third road branches out from Ubulu-Uku to Umunede road at the post office junction and runs through Akpama, Agbonta-Udogwu and Isho village to Ubulu-Unor.
Occupationally Ubulu-Uku men are farmers, weavers, hunters, and palm wine tappers. As for Ubulu-uku women they are expert weavers. With their hand looms they produce materials that are highly treasured by both foreign and Nigerian visitors to the town.
The Union that made up Ubulu-Uku
Ezemu meets Ekei One day while Ezemu was under the “Ubulu” tree he sighted smoke at a distance. He became curious and moved towards the direction from where the smoke was rising to find out its source. On getting to the spot called Ani-Ekei which now forms part of Udo Village, he met a man called Ekei, a black –smith. He was the leader of a few settlers there.
Ezemu meets Anugwe Just as Ezemu discovered Ekei and his people, he sighted some smoke rising from a spot in the bush around the present Abuedo village. Like the brave hunter that he was, he moved to find out the source of the smoke. On reaching the spot he saw a man called Anugwe working in his large farm. The exchanged greetings and introduced themselves.
Ezemu becomes the first king of Ubulu-uku
When Ezemu saw that he had surrounded himself with enough settlers he went up to Ekei and told him that it was necessary for the three groups of settlers to come together and that one of the three leaders should be made their king.
After listening to Ezemu, Ekei told him that he was already getting old and was not interested in being the king of Ubulu-Uku. Ezemu went up to Anugwe and told him of his proposals. Anugwe told Ezemu also that he was not interested in being a king. He asked Ezemu to become the king if he so wished. Thus Ezemu was accorded recognition by all the settlers in Ubulu-uku.
Then Ezemu went to Ubulu-unor and told Obodo that he was to be coronated formally. Obodo congratulated him and shaved his bushy hair in order to make him look neat on the coronation day. When Ezemu returned to Ubulu-uku he was crowned the king of ubulu-uku with a lot of pomp and pageantry.
source : C.E.A Ikemefunah and Obi Anene
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ebeledi (m)
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ijaw woman post 4 here nawa ohh,
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laudate
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Stop wasting your time, Mohadana. Those who have their own opinions about the origins of Isele-Uku, have made it known. They are not likely to change it.  Take your leave before they start accusing you of referring to the people of Isele-Uku or Ubulu-Uku, as 'Edoid' groups.
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ebeledi (m)
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tribalism everywhere in naija ohh
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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In fact Ubulu oral tradition states categorically that the grand-parents of Ezemu migrated from Israel and settled at Ife hence Ezemu was often referred to as the king with long hairs stupid brainless delusional laudate, all other Igbos claimed they migrated from Israel, I don't see this falling short of it.
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