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panthress (f)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #32 on: January 03, 2006, 12:53 AM »

prolly have a change of mind, tho pidgin english is spoke widely if its hard to believe for u guys we can't make it our lingua franca even here in london most english pplz can't speak queens english only african pplz here can speak it. so keep engish n let pidgin juz be what we speak as fun or even if a national sport lol
alheri (f)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #33 on: January 03, 2006, 11:02 AM »

Isnt it already? I mean OBJ is always on about been "kanpke"! Especially in public.  Cheesy
soldierboy
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #34 on: January 06, 2007, 12:12 PM »

pingin is english is not to good outside
kaecy5 (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #35 on: January 07, 2007, 03:09 PM »

using pidgin english as a second national language is not a bad idea

i beg to differ to some posters idea that once u know how to speak pidgin english u wont know how to use proper english i would tell u thats a big lie

most of us here have a good understanding of both pidgin english and proper english 

i went to a university in nigeria that even if u don't understand pidgin english before u graduate u would know how to manipulate it and so is the case in most nigerian universties talk less of secondary and primary schools


most times have u not noticed that when u bring an mgbeke from the village she picks up pidgin faster and can communicate with it

we can achieve good use of both languages if we just try - mind u,  some of us already have good command of our native languages and that does not affect our english it only in some cases affect our ascent
9ja4eva (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #36 on: March 05, 2007, 10:09 PM »

Yeah thats true.Wldnt be a bad idea too
dafman (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #37 on: March 10, 2007, 10:54 AM »

It might not be in the constitution but pidgin is already an official language in Nigeria, everyone speaks it anyway
9ja4eva (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #38 on: March 12, 2007, 03:20 AM »

Yeah thats true.
ov
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #39 on: March 15, 2007, 10:43 PM »

as a waffi guy make i yarn my mind. pidgeon na the way forward o. scrap queens english. pidgeon was made for us black human beings,. afterall even though hawk and owl de fly for sky na only one de see for night
9ja4eva (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #40 on: March 17, 2007, 07:28 AM »

Na true jare.The Queens English never profit us sef.Abeg na pidgin all d way jare.
ehi4life (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #41 on: March 26, 2007, 05:20 PM »

I totally agree with you guys
9ja4eva (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #42 on: March 27, 2007, 04:15 AM »

Honestly it will be good if dey pass this but i dnt think so because not all tribes in Nigeria can speak it well too.
Digiman (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #43 on: March 28, 2007, 08:30 PM »

Quote from: ov on March 15, 2007, 10:43 PM
as a waffi guy make i yarn my mind. pidgeon na the way forward o. scrap queens english. pidgeon was made for us black human beings,. afterall even though hawk and owl de fly for sky na only one de see for night

If they do make it official please drop phrases such as "ace sobey" its degrading !!!!
9ja4eva (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #44 on: March 29, 2007, 08:57 AM »

Is dt pidgin?LOL
zeguyz
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #45 on: October 03, 2007, 11:45 AM »

I would like to make a good point about Nigerian Pidgin English, first of all I will classify it as a new Nigerian language which derived from english with the mixture of our own almight languages and culutre, and the English Dictionary classified it as Pidgin because they can't understand it and meanwhile the English language is derived from other European languages (such as Dutch, French, etc) and please people read the history of English then you will know that the English itself was a Pidgin language, but as time goes on the language keep changing.  So who are they to labelled it "Pidgin" just because they don't understand the constructure of the language (Pidgin). I agree that it should be official just like the adopted English.  I also hate calling our own languages vernacular,  I think some of our profs and government don Kolo since 1960s,  Shocked)  I beg give me banana before I jump like monkie as baba 70 said.
Seun (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #46 on: October 03, 2007, 12:03 PM »

Communication is the goal of any language.  Why speak pidgin when we can speak English?
Most articles on the Internet, books, movies,tv shows are in English.  We won't be able to take
advantage of all these resources if we only understand pidgin.  So let's stick with the standard. Wink
Siena (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #47 on: October 03, 2007, 12:23 PM »

I'm all for sticking with regular English.

Pidgin was never spoken in our home, my parents spoke to myself and my sisters in English.

I'm bringing my kids up to speak regular English too, not Pidgin.
almondjoy (f)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #48 on: October 03, 2007, 05:33 PM »

Quote from: Siena on October 03, 2007, 12:23 PM
I'm all for sticking with regular English.
Pidgin was never spoken in our home, my parents spoke to myself and my sisters in English.

I'm bringing my kids up to speak regular English too, not Pidgin.

Yes I agree.  But unfortnately in about 50-100years from now, there will be no languages within the "tribes". The good news is that most of us are not going to be alive to see how it all plays out.  Thank God!  We are going to be left with "standard english" and "pidgin english".  Would be wise to understand both since the latter is the language of the streets.  Nigeria has mostly an illiterate gen-pop.  I would like my generations to come to understand both to avoid being ripped off or look like a fish out of water in the hoody neighbourhoods of Nigeria. 

Pidgin English is a language of survival in Nigeria.  Your life might depend on the ability to speak it if you find yourself in certain parts of Nigeria. If you do not live in Nigeria-no problems then.  I would like my kids to visit Nigeria often, so they better learn it---and fast---especially since they are from the South-South! Wink
Fufu King (m)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #49 on: October 03, 2007, 10:10 PM »

I hate pidgin English.

I don't think it should become the official language of Nigeria, but it seems many Nigerians love the idea. I think it's a step backwards.
almondjoy (f)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #50 on: October 04, 2007, 06:53 AM »

Quote from: Fufu King on October 03, 2007, 10:10 PM
I hate pidgin English.
I don't think it should become the official language of Nigeria, but it seems many Nigerians love the idea. I think it's a step backwards.

I beg shine your eyes well oh!  How far na? Cheesy  Pidginee no go mud lie lie!!!
omoovie (f)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #51 on: May 09, 2008, 05:26 PM »

I don't understand why some Naija peeps' hairs are ruffled whenever this issue of Pidgin as an official language is brought up. As others have clearly stated, quite a few standardized or "creole-labeled" languages are recognized as actual languages. Check Seychelles creole (pidgin French) or Jamaican Patois (pidgin English). People in Angola and Sao Tome have their own version of Brazilian Portuguese. Those are languages that started out being "improper" versions of the original language. Y must our speech be exactly like the Brits? Have you heard them rapping their own version of English. Honestly the accents and slangs in that one country alone are mind-boggling! Y e be say Naija peeps go jus dey do unnecessary gra-gra wey e come to our mata? Razness in practice! Besides, there are some things we can say in Pidgin that just won't work within the confines of English (which is a bastardized form of Latin, German and loan words from other romance languages by the way with improper pronounciation - and sometimes spelling - of words like "quid pro quo", "de rigeur" and "tete-a-tete". Y'all don't get me started! Heck even "y'all" is improper English but it's perfectly acceptable to write and say in American English)

Case in point, how can you honestly explain these sentences in English:

"Man bodi no be fayawood"
Or
"Becos you no wan kpai before u die! Lai! Lai!" from 2Face's song, "No Shakin"

A valid language has a cultural expression behind it that may be unfathomable or indescribable in another language or culture. In fact---all the people wey get qualms with pidgin as official language (e don already be unofficial wetin bad 2 remove 2 letters from d front again? Shu-u!) na d peeps wey no sabi rap d tin laik Waffi peeps or common man! I rest my mouth.

omoovie (f)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #52 on: May 09, 2008, 05:34 PM »

Oh and by the way, our neighbours are clamouring to speak our Nigerian version of Pidgin English because they think it's really cool. Naija films dey reach all over Africa sotay my friend from Morocco dey yan me of "Games Women Play" before me fa wey be Naija babe bin see am. All those people in all those countries see our language as cool and acceptable. Why don't we?! Ghana speaks pidgin, quite a few Camerounians do too and what exactly do you think Sierra Leone's "krio" is? Nigeriens! Mon Dieu! C'etait ridicule! Incroyable! So Fela and Femi and Asa shouldn't have spoken pidgin?! Na wa  oh!
mukina2 (f)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #53 on: May 13, 2008, 09:20 PM »

Quote from: omoovie on May 09, 2008, 05:34 PM
what exactly do you think Sierra Leone's "krio" is?

Its definitely not pidgin. some similarities, but not pidgin
OsunAmazon
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #54 on: May 14, 2008, 08:07 AM »

I support the adoption of pidgin english 100%, afterall that's the only language spoken and undertsood by about 70% of Nigerians. What else do we need?
naija_diva (f)
Re: Nigerian Pidgin English as Our National Language?
« #55 on: May 14, 2008, 05:19 PM »

Quote from: mukina2 on May 13, 2008, 09:20 PM
Its definitely not pidgin. some similarities, but not pidgin

pidgin/krio, all the say, it just depends on what you want to call it.
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