Chelsea Fans: Identify Yourselves Here (Old)

@ somze,

Please read and understand my analysis before you reply. There
is no prize for who replies first.

Sir Alex has been in countless similar situations where he turned
it around so we can fall back on that experience. That is why the
rules are different for him. He is god.

I went back 3 seasons to show you it's been happening a long time
ago and not just when the problems started this season.

When I made reference to seasons, I meant that the blunder examples you gave for JM were not even in a season, they were over a period of seasons, unlike AG that has a number of the already in his 8 months (remember you started this 8 month argument.)

Maybe you should re-read both your posts and mine.

What trophy has SAF given your club that JM has not given another club. JM must be a god too then 

Now, all managers make blunders. There is no question about that. The point
is the gloss over it when it comes to Jose and a thorough expository when it
comes to grant is grotesquely unfair ----------- by akinlabi .


@akinlabi

you amazed me . . . You think so lowly of JM so much so that comparing Grant with him will be unfair?

unfair?

Bloody hell what are you talking about. . . ? It's pretty simple . . the results speak for themselvesTell me one thing you think Grant has done that JM couldn't have . . . . . and please I said COULDN'T have. . (emphasis on abilities). . . . so much so that the word UNFAIR is being used when comparing the two. .

because I can tell you several things JM could have done that Grant couldn't . . .


Grant will need to to win 5 trophies and a community shield within the next two years to equal JM's record. . . .he's blown away one season already. . and let's all not forget he's spent about £25m already on Anelka, (scored just one league goal . . JM would have been called a idiot) Ivanovic and Franco Di santo. . .

The numbers are beginning to count

I don't really care about what these guys says.

Somze,Nateeves and few others are not paper-weight. They are Chelseans pre-JM, so they can't be tossed around.

@Chacal

now you have pissed me off . . . Take a look at this. .

Sir Alex signed Djemba djemba, Alan-Smith, JsPark, Jaap Stam, Diego Forlan, Quintine Fortune, Kleberson, Veron, Saha,

and a lot I will remember for you when I have time . . . as matter of fact I have alink for you below to read on the transfer of veron . . it was a british record and what happened?






Juan "Seba" Veron arrived at Old Trafford in July 2001 for a British transfer record £28.1 million. One of the biggest names in Serie A with Lazio and amongst the finest midfielders in world football, he was meant to be the final piece in the jigsaw that would give United that missing extra edge to win the Champions League.

However, it never worked out that way. The major problem was that his arrival upset the balance of the team. [size=12]Ferguson didn't quite know where to play him [/size] and a change of formation to accommodate the midfielder seemed to undo United's attacking potency. After good start in the opening games Seba seemed to lose his way. In big games with Arsenal and Liverpool he seemed to "disappear" and have no influence on the action. It didn't help that the media was constantly linking him with a move back to old club Lazio with each week a new rumour emerging about how he was unhappy in Manchester.

In the end Sir Alex decided to cut his losses in the summer of 2003 and sell Veron to Chelsea for £15 million - a £13 million loss that will go down as his biggest transfer failure to date.

 http://www.manutdzone.com/atoz/v.html



now how about that fior sir alex?

So when Sir Alex made several errors in these signings, did that stop him from still redeeming his image time and after time. . ? no it did not. . What is there to prove that even though JM got a few signing wrong he wouldn't have risen to the top to shut his critics down?  Why always point JM's wrong signings like he was the one that brought it to earth. . . ? Can we begin to calculate aw much Sir Alex has lost in signings?


the difference between JM's appointment's and Wenger's and Sir Alex's is they had time to play. . . they were given long time rebuilding terms. . Sir Alex has a one year rolling clause in his contract. . . JM was working under stiff pressure and constant gists inthe media . . . even Kenyon confirmed that they spoke to Klinsman while JM was Manaer. . . Did Alex ever go through that?

I do not agree with you at all at all

@ Nateevs,

don't make me laugh!!!!!!!!!

Jaap Stam? The best defender in the EPL!!!!!!!!
Juan Veron? The most accomplished midfielder we have ever bought. . . . Was sold to Chelsea but won the EPL title with Man Utd.
Alan Smith, JS Park, Saha and Forlan all won titles upon titles and were better than Del Horno, Boulahrouz, Robert Huth and flippin' Jarosik!!
The only flops Fergie bought were Djemba-Djemba and Kleberson. . . .don't come here to tell us Veron or Forlan were flops!!!!!

P.S. Who bought VERON from Man Utd? Get back to me when u have an answer!!!!!
While u are it, tell us how much SWP and Shevchenko draw on Chelsea's payroll week in week out.
Mourinho is a twit. . . . . He is a douchebag like this Nairaland fly that keeps buzzing around me. . . . .

Common Chacal. . . .

because a player won the title with utd means they are not flops. . . . Let's go over what a flop is . . a flop is something that fails to stay consistent . . because the main reason it was sort was for consistence. . .

You are the first person I heard of to tell me Veron was not a flop in ManUVeron was a major flop. . . I remember Veron caused dressing room unrest and Manu finished 3rd 10 pts behind Arsenal in the season he was signed. . . So what after Manu won the league in 03 . . they decided to sell the best midfielder according to you . . to a rival club. . for £15m when they bought him for £28.5m? what are you saying?

Diego forlan was not a flop .  . . i can't believe this. . alan smith. . .?

Ok Kezman won the tiltle with Chelsea. . . .

So Djemba djemba was a flop because he did not win a title with ManU? So what about Fortune? Saha has had only one meaningful season and you think he is not a flop. . after this season he can't play for utd again. . that's a flop. .Summer Alex will buy one of Berbatov, huntelaar, Aguero or Benzema. . . so aw is he not a flop?


You and I know JS park was so much hyped in OT. .  Thoughts of him setting the premiership alive. . . Sir Alex will spend at least another  £50m in the summer and that is the end of JS park . . chacal wetin you dey talk. . .

@ nateevs,

Lets differentiate between flops and EXPENSIVE FLOPS, Okay?

Chelsea since the ROMAN REVOLUTION have bought everything in sight.
As soon as they hear Man Utd, Arsenal or Liverpool are paging a player. . . .Peter Kenyon moves in and buys.
They don't even check or do proper scanning. . . .they just shell out like an illiterate billionaire.

I am the last person u want to be dealing with on this issue.
You r a great pal. . . . lets skip this debate.
I had it with Akola the other day and he ran with his tails betweeen his legs.
He was boxed in a corner he had to start arguing whether Kalou was 5 milla or 8 milla. . . . .What does it matter? He is still a FLOP.

@ nateevs,

In a space of 3 seasons??
If u were Roman's first son. . . . .what would u do?

2007

MISS - Florent Malouda (£13.5m)
MISS - Juliano Belletti (£3.7m)
MISS - Tal Ben Haim (Free)
MISS - Claudio Pizarro (Free)
MISS - Steve Sidwell (Free)

2006

MISS - Andriy Shevchenko (£30m)
MISS - John Mikel Obi (£16m)
MISS - Salomon Kalou (£8m)
MISS - Khalid Boulahrouz (£7m)
MISS - Ashley Cole (£5m)
MISS - Michael Ballack (Free)

2005

HIT - Michael Essien (£24m)
HIT - Didier Drogba (£24m)
MISS - Shaun Wright-Phillips (£21m)
HIT - Ricardo Carvalho (£20m)
MISS - Paulo Ferreira (£13m)
MISS - Asier Del Horno (£8m)
MISS - Tiago (£8m)
MISS - Mateja Kezman (£5m)
MISS - Jiri Jarosik (£5m)
MISS - Lassana Diarra (£1m)

TOTAL 214 million pounds.

Please stop attributing JM to Sheva. . it is not fair and not right. . . .

Tell me one 29 yr-old you think Jose signed. . . he did not. . . will not and could never have signed sheva. . simple. .

A million misses and he won the premiership with these number of misses. . and still won two trophies when he had a bad season?

You will end up not being right by just taking player and calling him a miss. . .

Going by your standards you currently have . . . . Pique, Oshea, Carrick, Saha and Park, Darren fletcher, as fringe players . . they are all misses. . if belletti and ferreira are misses. . .



Last season

Smith, Heaton, Eagles, Dong, Park, Richardson, Heinze. . .

may i know what all the argument is about??? someone would think we lost a major match

u guys have some good time to play with. We need to open up some bottles for getting arsenal down where they are

I know criticising Jose is a NO GO AREA at the bridge. But not
for us outside the bridge. Even when he makes errors and
talks gibberish, it is regarded as gold.

What you'all don't realize is that Roman has done Jose a
big favour. Sending him away when the ovation was quite
high.

How I wish he had left him so he could taste what "trophyless
seasons" mean.

You all have been unfair to Grant. It gets worse when you
insist that he's not been treated worse.

The chants of "You don't know what you're doing" when
he was making those substutions was an absolute disgrace.

Grant has done a good job since he took over.

Wake up guys. . . You really need to.

1) Maybe you are just reading this thread Akin.

Ibime is a blue but never like Jose. Nateeves support Grant more than Grants mother until recently.

My very good friend Denis(An Irish), who has been a season ticket holder for years hardly like Jose but if he has a gun, he would have shot Avram now.

I am a Mourinho man anyday but i still curse him when needed. 3 seasons ago, we play spurs at the Bridge, it was 0-0. Jm was making so much noise that, spurs should bring a bus and park it by the goal post. I cursed him like mad. I hate coaches that complain the way opposition plays. Must opposition play the way you want?.

2) Is he doing bad with 11 points while the league leaders has just 13 points. As much as i hate comparison. We are trailing United by 5 points now. Do the maths.

3) JM is not a trophyless material and we all know that. He win anything cup. Whether its milk or tea cup

4) How could you have confidence in a man that get 90% of the substitution wrong?

5) Yes he has. Lost by 2 goals to united,Beat Spurs by 4 goals to 4 even after leading by 3goals to 1 Beat Derby by 6 goals. Qualified for FA cup semis and beat Spurs in the Milk cup final.

too bad akin

you just met ur nemesis

I still got 2 spare forms

YOu and Mukina can come get them free of charge