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Sisikill
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Helen Mirren - Rape Isn't Always CriminalThis will raise some eyebrows. Helen Mirren says she's been the victim of date-rape before, but if a woman says no at the last second, don't go whining your way into court. CNN.com got a copy of a GQ story that's about to be published, in which Mirren calls date-rape a "tricky area," something best worked out between the parties. Mirren says if a couple is heavy into sexual activity and the woman says "no" at the last second, technically it's rape, but, "I don't think she can have that man into court under those circumstances. I guess it is one of the subtle parts of the men/women relationship that has to be negotiated and worked out between them." http://www.tmz.com/2008/09/01/helen-mirren-rape-isnt-always-criminal/ In case you don't know who she is, Helen Mirren is a 63 years old British Actress, who recently received rave reviews for portraying Queen Elizabeth II in the Movie The Queen. She's also recognized for her outspokeness on women's rights. Question - Given that She was once a victim of rape, do you think she is right in her assertion that RAPE ISN'T ALWAYS CRIMINAL?
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ibkaye
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Rape is always criminal
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tammyswits (f)
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Al ask ma learned buddies!
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tpia
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the burden of proof is on the defendant.
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Sisikill
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Rape is always criminal
But here is a woman who has been through it, saying it isn't always criminal. Surely, her experience makes her in a better position to talk. Ya ya dai? You've been awol for a while now. I hope everything is good with you
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tope2000 (f)
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she must have enjoyed it then
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Sisikill
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the burden of proof is on the defendant.
Please explain.
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Sisikill
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she must have enjoyed it then
LMAO! Yeparipa! You have killed me with laugh. I don't think it is that she enjoyed it, she is just saying sometimes rape victims aren't completely innocent. I think she just accepts that she had some fault in the whole thing.
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Ruby_Pearl
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My gosh *whispering to her pillow* Where does Siskill get this kinda topics from?  Please explain.
I think she means the evidence such as bruises, broken nails etc.
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ibkaye
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But here is a woman who has been through it, saying it isn't always criminal. Surely, her experience makes her in a better position to talk.
Ya ya dai? You've been awol for a while now. I hope everything is good with you
Hehehe, maybe it isn't criminal to her which is strange, but to me, no matter the case, date rape, stranger rape etc, it is always criminal lafiya lau na gode, yaya dai? Ahh, just been preparing for school and all, holiday is almost over 
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RibaduFan (m)
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Rape under whatever disguise or condition is criminal and should be treated as such.
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onyinye2 (f)
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Rape is ALWAYS criminal. But doesn't mean a person will get convicted for it.
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tammyswits (f)
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Its not rape if it aint criminal, coz rape is forced sex, even if she changes her mind at th last minute, after turning him on and he forces her way in its still criminal!
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StephenP (m)
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She said no at the last second? LOL I can imagine, they're doing the thing and he's about to cum and she says "No." hahaha I'm just playing.
@topic, I guess it isn't always criminal.
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Ruby_Pearl
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She said no at the last second? LOL I can imagine, they're doing the thing and he's about to come and she says "No." hahaha I'm just playing.
rotflmao! Happy Birthday month,buddy *punches him on his shoulder*But Pisces rock!!
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Sisikill
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In a way, she is calling for women to be more assertive about what they went.
Yes, No, Yes, No, Maybe, I, don't know What is that for?
If you know you are not ready for sex, be firm right from jump. Don't lead the guy on and when you are one clothing away from being nekkid, you say no, then cry foul when he doesn't stop.
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janami (f)
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rape is criminal, but leading a man on, d woman is an accomplice to d crime
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Baxilexi
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My gosh *whispering to her pillow* Where does Siskill get this kind of topics from?  I think she means the evidence such as bruises, broken nails etc. pillow is that the guys name  @topic, i go with the majority
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Queenisha
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If a woman agrees to sex and midstream she decides she doesn't want it anymore and the man refuses to withdraw his bulala, in my books it's not rape. What does she expect ? Is the man an inanimate object? It's rape when it's forced from the get go,but if she says no and he pleads and she agrees and while he's in she decides she doesn't want it anymore, let her deal with it. That's the prize of fornication  She should just give him a couple of seconds and the whole thing will be over. Next time she should know not to go with a man willingly into a room with the door locked, onto a bed with the intent of sex.
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Ruby_Pearl
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pillow is that the guys name  yes
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Sisikill
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My gosh *whispering to her pillow* Where does Siskill get this kind of topics from?  I think she means the evidence such as bruises, broken nails etc. I thought that might be it but she said defendant. . . who in this case will be the rapist. So how will the burden of proof be on him? Hehehe, you don't wanna know oh. Save yourself, I'm already a lost cause.Awww, you are going back to school soon? Does this mean you'll even be scarcer around here? 
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Baxilexi
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yes
ahh it is worse than i tot, what if you get raped. 
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Sisikill
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If a woman agrees to sex and midstream she decides she doesn't want it anymore and the man refuses to withdraw his bulala, in my books it's not rape. What does she expect ? Is the man an inanimate object? It's rape when it's forced from the get go,but if she says no and he pleads and she agrees and while he's in she decides she doesn't want it anymore, let her deal with it. That's the prize of fornication  She should just give him a couple of seconds and the whole thing will be over. Next time she should know not to go with a man willingly into a room with the door locked, onto a bed with the intent of sex. EXACTEMUNDO!!! This is what she saying! Sometimes I feel sorry for guys, you know they can't turn it off and on like women can.
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Ruby_Pearl
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Ok guys, maybe during the sex, she realized that his koboko was too big and she didn't want anymore. eh. He was bruising her from the inside  ahh it is worse than i tot, what if you get raped.  How can I? When I know the kinda man am getting into a bedroom with?
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Queenisha
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Ok guys, maybe during the sex, she realized that his koboko was too big and she didn't want anymore. eh.He was bruising her from the inside  How can I? When I know the kind of man am getting into a bedroom with? Then let her inspect his koboko before making a decision
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Sisikill
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The word NO in itself is not should not be used to judge a rape situation in some cases. It's sad how many men have their names on the sex offender's list because of situations like this and once someone's name is there, there is not erasing it.
And guys should also know the kind girls they are dealing with. Not everyone who comes batting their eyelashes at you is inviting you to come sex 'em up.
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ibkaye
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Awww, you are going back to school soon? Does this mean you'll even be scarcer around here?  awww, please don't cry ehn, i wills till be on, only not as much 
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Baxilexi
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why don't peep bother themselves about male molestation? @ruby, then a rule should be a horny womans best friend. you havent heard of wolf in pillow clothings 
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janami (f)
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How can I? When I know the kind of man am getting into a bedroom with?
Neva under estimate a man in a bedroom, if the thing too much, no telling what he can do
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Queenisha
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The word NO in itself is not should not be used to judge a rape situation in some cases. It's sad how many men have their names on the sex offender's list because of situations like this and once someone's name is there, there is not erasing it.
And guys should also know the kind girls they are dealing with. Not everyone who comes batting their eyelashes at you is inviting you to come sex 'em up.
Nigerians girls usually say No when they actually mean "beg me alittle harder, I don't want to appear cheap"
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