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galatico (m)
Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« on: September 10, 2008, 11:13 AM »

AC Milan and Brazil ace Kaka has revealed he would like to see Barcelona star Lionel Messi win the Ballon d’Or.

Kaka wants the Argentina forward to win the award ahead of Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo this year.

“Messi is a truly great player. Cristiano Ronaldo is also very good and deserves the away, but I want Leo to be my successor,” he told Gazzetta dello Sport.

“He has incredible ability and can control the ball superbly and that makes him one of the best players in the world.

“I think he is the sort of player that you would always want in your team.

“I am only talking about this year. My aim is to recover my form as quickly as possible and to try and win th trophy again in Paris and the FIFA World Player of the Year in Zürich.

“But for that to happen I have to be playing at a consistently good level for Milan.”

[Source: Gazzetta dello Sport]


http://www.soccernews.com/kaka-messi-should-win-the-ballon-d%E2%80%99or/6883/
dayokanu (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #1 on: September 10, 2008, 05:11 PM »

Anyone but Ronaldo. Messi, Casilass or anyone even Ali Baba I no mind
Hannibal
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #2 on: September 10, 2008, 06:06 PM »

Messi ma bloody foot!!
He has not won a club medal for 2 seasons.
Very soon he would be like Cesc Fabregas with 3 TROPHYLESS seasons. Grin Cheesy
dayokanu (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #3 on: September 10, 2008, 06:16 PM »

How many club medals did Ronaldo Lima win before winning in 2002? Or Zidane in 2000. What medal did George Weah win to be named player of the year in 1995?
darefestus (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #4 on: September 10, 2008, 06:22 PM »

What concerns kaka with who emerges as  the world footballer of the year.his own time is gone,let ronaldo win this award for us, Ah.OTA PO:meaning enemies are too much for england
Hannibal
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #5 on: September 10, 2008, 06:30 PM »

Ronaldo de Lima won the world cup in 2002 scoring 8 goals(matching Pele's all time record as his total goals clocked 12).
Besides, u cannot name a better player in that world cup year. Everyone was mediocre at large.

Zidane  also won Euro 2000.
His display earned him the player of the tournament.
It was no brainer, he was the best player in Europe in 2000.

Leo Messi. . . . . He was nowhere to be found last season.
He missed out because of injury and when he came back, he couldn't inspire Barcelona to win any medal.
Was he not on the pitch when a medicore Madrid team spanked them at the Bernabeu?
Olympic Medal?? I doubt that would be favoured ahead of Champions League, Premiership and the European boot + European golden shoe.

CRISTIANO RONALDO all the way.
dayokanu (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #6 on: September 10, 2008, 06:39 PM »

Messi won Olympic Gold . Just like Ronaldo Lima in 1996 and won. some players won Champions League, Premiership and the European boot + European golden shoe but Ronaldo was considered ahead of them. Why?

Zidane was the best player in 2000 which tournament? UCL  he did not play, Scudetto? He did not win, Golden boot? No.

Just because of the Euro 2000 display. So the player of the tournament should win. Then talk about Xavi or Casilass

So if you justify Zidane for winning by the Euro display alone, then I think Ronaldo does not merit the award the it goes to Casilass.

George Weah? i am waiting?
Hannibal
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #7 on: September 10, 2008, 06:55 PM »

Quote from: dayokanu on September 10, 2008, 06:39 PM
Messi won Olympic Gold . Just like Ronaldo Lima in 1996 and won. some players won Champions League, Premiership and the European boot + European golden shoe but Ronaldo was considered ahead of them. Why?

This is where i think you are suffering from brain disorder. . . . .Ronaldo Lima didn't win Olympic gold in 1996.

You just said some players won in 1996 but Ronaldo single-handedly won Champions League, Premiership, European golden shoe n boot.
These awards were shared in 1996 but ONE player won everything HIMSELF in 2007.
If there was a player like him in 1996, he would beat Ronaldo Lima hands down.
How many players can lay claim to all the individual awards Ronaldo won last season? It has never happened before.

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Zidane was the best player in 2000 which tournament? UCL  he did not play, Scudetto? He did not win, Golden boot? No.
Just because of the Euro 2000 display. So the player of the tournament should win. Then talk about Xavi or Casilass
So if you justify Zidane for winning by the Euro display alone, then I think Ronaldo does not merit the award the it goes to Casilass.

Zidane was the best player in EURO 2000. . . .
The remarkable performance he showed alone in that tournament sending Portugal n Spain home was unequalled.
Besides, there was no single player who won the European double in 2000 PLUS the golden boot in his domestic league, champions league golden boot and scoring the highest league goals in the whole of Europe.
You cannot overlook that achievement or compare it to Casillas or a diminutive Xavi that got trained by Scholes in Nou Camp and OT.
darefestus (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #8 on: September 10, 2008, 07:27 PM »

Quote from: Hannibal on September 10, 2008, 06:55 PM
This is where i think you are suffering from brain disorder.
You just said some players won in 1996 but Ronaldo single-handedly won Champions League, Premiership, European golden shoe n boot.
These awards were shared in 1996 but ONE player won everything HIMSELF in 2007.
If there was a player like him in 1996, he would beat Ronaldo Lima hands down.
How many players can lay claim to all the individual awards Ronaldo won last season? It has never happened before.

Zidane was the best player in EURO 2000. . . .
The remarkable performance he showed alone in that tournament sending Portugal n Spain home was unequalled.
Besides, there was no single player who won the European double in 2000 PLUS the golden boot in his domestic league, champions league golden boot and scoring the highest league goals in the whole of Europe.
You cannot overlook that achievement or compare it to Casillas or a dimunitive Xavi that got trained by Scholes in Nou Camp and OT.

Thank you hannibal don't mind them,That xavi where was he before man utd played barca?after recieving a lecture from baba scholes he his now in the frame for World player of the year, Forget that, if that was the criteria{winning the euros} then effenburg of germany should have been named as the best in the world in 1996 and as for zizou he was arguably the best in his time, don't forget that it was after he inspired france to win the world cup in 1998 at the expense of almighty brazil, even now,i still rate zizou as the best player i have seen in my own time.Unlike messi who is just a flash in the pan, Ronaldo all the way, Guesss what, Even the great zizou said he{ronaldo} should be the only one nominated for the awards meaning all other footballers are no where near is achievements last season,
bollingjoe (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #9 on: September 11, 2008, 02:44 PM »

messi is better than c ronaldo but everything tips in ronaldo's way. I wish i could swing it  messi's way but it aint possible
dayokanu (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #10 on: September 11, 2008, 03:02 PM »

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Thank you hannibal don't mind them,That xavi where was he before man utd played barca?after recieving a lecture from baba scholes he his now in the frame for World player of the year, Forget that, if that was the criteria{winning the euros} then effenburg of germany should have been named as the best in the world in 1996 and as for zizou he was arguably the best in his time, don't forget that it was after he inspired france to win the world cup in 1998 at the expense of almighty brazil, even now,i still rate zizou as the best player i have seen in my own time.Unlike messi who is just a flash in the pan, Ronaldo all the way, Guesss what, Even the great zizou said he{ronaldo} should be the only one nominated for the awards meaning all other footballers are no where near is achievements last season, 


WHere did you get this one from. Was Effenberg a regular for Germany in 1996? Moreover Sammer won it for hios exploits at the Euro cup 96
   
 
Hannibal
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #11 on: September 11, 2008, 03:07 PM »

Quote from: bollingjoe on September 11, 2008, 02:44 PM
messi is better than c ronaldo but everything tips in ronaldo's way. I wish i could swing it  messi's way but it aint possible

On what grounds?
Goals? Creativity? Dead Balls? Aerial ability? Pace? 2 quick feet? Distant shots?
Messi pales in comparison in leaps and bounds.
No player has done what Cristiano achieved last season in the history of Football.
darefestus (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #12 on: September 11, 2008, 03:22 PM »

@dayokamu
whatever,did sammer win the world footballer of the year?and at that time there was no other evident challenger that was why even the world footballer of the year went to young ronaldo lima.
MrCrackles (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #13 on: September 11, 2008, 03:24 PM »

Nah i think i should!! Grin
A-40 (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #14 on: September 11, 2008, 04:25 PM »

What are Kaka and Messi's name doing in that list? What did they achieve in Europe last season? those Balon D' Or cats are clowns  Tongue

Ronaldo is better than Messi i like Messi but he is pretty over-hyped
bolaoni (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #15 on: September 11, 2008, 04:42 PM »

Kaka should focus on his game and not meddle in issues that are far beyond him. Messi CANNOT win anything this
year except we have some Oyinbo magic.  Lips sealed

Ronaldo stands higher than him in all ramifications. Let him try his luck next season Wink

@dare,

Sorry, I beg to disagree that Messi is a flash in the pan o. Save for injury, he would have been a force to reckon with the last season. Wink
dayokanu (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #16 on: September 11, 2008, 04:45 PM »

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You cannot overlook that achievement or compare it to Casillas or a dimunitive Xavi that got trained by Scholes in Nou Camp and OT.

I wonder why you are rooting for Ronaldo that got trained by ARne Friedrich. Scholes is a big name and a good player but Arne Friedrich?Huh
darefestus (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #17 on: September 11, 2008, 06:40 PM »

Quote from: dayokanu on September 11, 2008, 04:45 PM
I wonder why you are rooting for Ronaldo that got trained by ARne Friedrich. Scholes is a big name and a good player but Arne Friedrich?Huh
Who is arne friedrich?when and where did critiano ronaldo meet this friedrich?you are so engrossed with this man united issue that you tend to pick your clue from anywhere including friedrichGod knows where his from
Hannibal
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #18 on: September 11, 2008, 07:32 PM »

Quote from: dayokanu on September 11, 2008, 04:45 PM
I wonder why you are rooting for Ronaldo that got trained by ARne Friedrich. Scholes is a big name and a good player but Arne Friedrich?Huh

Got trained by Arne Friedrich or Portugal were not good enough to beat Germany.
I want to see the same Arne Friedrich against RONALDO in a Man Utd shirt then we can see how good any German defender is. . .
Friedrich me ass. . . . . . Ronaldo scored against 18 out of the 19 Prem teams he played against last season and u are mentioning Friedrich.
Are u insane?
slimghost (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #19 on: September 11, 2008, 09:03 PM »

it will be stack madness for any soul to compare Ron with Messy in terms of achievements last season. Messy is a great player no doubt but last season was'nt for him. Ron will definitely be named world footballer of the year. case closed.
Sam Milla (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #20 on: September 11, 2008, 09:37 PM »

ronaldo c
dayokanu (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #21 on: September 12, 2008, 06:27 AM »

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Who is arne friedrich?when and where did critiano ronaldo meet this friedrich?you are so engrossed with this man united issue that you tend to pick your clue from anywhere including friedrichGod knows where his from

I shouldnt be discussing football with you if you don't know whom Friedrich is.
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Got trained by Arne Friedrich or Portugal were not good enough to beat Germany.
I want to see the same Arne Friedrich against RONALDO in a Man Utd shirt then we can see how good any German defender is. . .
Friedrich me ass. . . . . . Ronaldo scored against 18 out of the 19 Prem teams he played against last season and u are mentioning Friedrich.
Are u insane?

Awards are not given by club performance alone. The only award given by club performance has been concluded and Ronaldo won at The UEFA GALA night.
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it will be stack madness for any soul to compare Ron with Messy in terms of achievements last season. Messy is a great player no doubt but last season was'nt for him. Ron will definitely be named world footballer of the year. case closed.

I would be interested in knowing the achievements of George Weah in 1995 and Ronaldo in 1996. Ronaldinho in 2004, Shevchenko in 2004,
A-40 (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #22 on: September 12, 2008, 12:08 PM »

Or Zidane in 2003  Angry.Frankly the way these bodies give awards sometimes can be ridiculous
Hannibal
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #23 on: September 12, 2008, 12:47 PM »

Quote from: dayokanu on September 12, 2008, 06:27 AM
Awards are not given by club performance alone. The only award given by club performance has been concluded and Ronaldo won at The UEFA GALA night.
I would be interested in knowing the achievements of George Weah in 1995 and Ronaldo in 1996. Ronaldinho in 2004, Shevchenko in 2004,

Was there any prodigious talent that became the Best Player of his domestic league, won the highest goal scorer in his league, won the league title, won the Champions league title, won the UEFA golden boot and European golden shoe(ALL IN ONE SEASON) in 1996, 2003 and 2004?
What Ronaldo has done in one season has never been done in the world of football. . . .That alone sets him apart from Zidane, Weah or Shevchenko.
tkb417 (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #24 on: September 12, 2008, 05:33 PM »

Messi what?
Kaka is suffering from some unknown ailment.

slimghost (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #25 on: September 12, 2008, 08:03 PM »

Quote from: Hannibal on September 12, 2008, 12:47 PM
Was there any prodigious talent that became the Best Player of his domestic league, won the highest goal scorer in his league, won the league title, won the Champions league title, won the UEFA golden boot and European golden shoe(ALL IN ONE SEASON) in 1996, 2003 and 2004?
What Ronaldo has done in one season has never been done in the world of football. . . .That alone sets him apart from Zidane, Weah or Shevchenko.

Help me tell them that. they just can't reason because they are biased minds.
dayokanu (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #26 on: September 13, 2008, 07:27 AM »

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What Ronaldo has done in one season has never been done in the world of football.

Yes oh. The Player of the year not in the top 23 of the major tournament of the year. Never in History!!!
subi
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #27 on: September 13, 2008, 09:12 AM »

@dayokanu
 I really don't know what your problem is with ronaldo winning the award. Oh did he destroyed your team that much in the previous season?? i guess that is it. Ronaldo is the best player to win the award,
Imagine the things he can do,

GOALS:  RONALDO BEATS MESSI, CAN SCORE FROM ANYWHERE, ANY ANGLE MAKING IT HARD FOR DEFENDER,  IF YOU CAN PREVENT MESSI FROM ENTERING THE 18 YARD, HE can't SCORE.

SKILLS:  I WILL GIVE THEM SAME SCORE HERE

DRIBBLING: OH THIS IS IT MESSI DRIBBLES TO HAVE INJURY, IS NOT A PLAYER YOU CAN BET ON WILL PLAY A WHOLE SEASON WITHOUT HAVING AT LEAST A MONTH INJURY MEANWHILE RONALDO DRIBBLES AND KNOW HIS WAY WITHOUT HAVING INJURY

SET PIECES: MESSI IS NOT A MATCH TO RONALDO

SPEED: SAME SCORE HERE

NO WONDER CALDERON WON KILL HIMSELF, ABEG LEAVE THIS GUY ALONE don't BE BIAS MAYBE THIS SEASON MESSI CAN OUTSHINE HIM BUT LAST SEASON MESSI IS NOT A MATCH AT ALLLLLLL, TORRES SELF DE BETTER, LOL
Hannibal
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #28 on: September 13, 2008, 12:11 PM »

Quote from: dayokanu on September 13, 2008, 07:27 AM
Yes oh. The Player of the year not in the top 23 of the major tournament of the year. Never in History!!!

Shut up your dirty traps!!!
Zinedine Zidane was the European player of the year going into the 2002 world cup and he couldn't salvage France.
Did he make the team of the tournament??

Instead of worrying your head over Ottmar Shitzfeld who keeps disgracing himself, you are here spewing fuckery.
Shitzfeld led Switzerland to LOSE against Luxembourg.
It's like Chelsea losing to Wikki Tourist.
Why not tell Shitzfeld to go back home and start FARMING. . . . . .He's too senile to manage any team now. Grin Cheesy
RuuDie (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #29 on: September 13, 2008, 12:37 PM »

Can't believe folks still be talking about some other players when we the whole world knows that much as i hate to admit that C.Ron was by far the best player last season. . . . . C.Ron should be Euro & World Player of the year; he deserves no less!
showstopa
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #30 on: September 13, 2008, 03:32 PM »

I love KAKA but i think this kind of talk is very unprofessional coming from Him.
He shouldn't meddle into such waters, they are kind of murky.
But by all standards i think Baby Ronaldo should be given it.
dayokanu (m)
Re: Kaka: Messi Should Win The Ballon D’or What;s Your Opinion?
« #31 on: September 14, 2008, 01:55 AM »

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Shut up your dirty traps!!!
Zinedine Zidane was the European player of the year going into the 2002 world cup and he couldn't salvage France.
Did he make the team of the tournament??

ANOTHER MONUMENTAL GOOF FROM JACKAL!!!     

Which Zidane? The one on playstation orwhich one? 2002? Zidane player of the year? ARe you on drugs? Confirmd you don't know jack about Euro footie so don't embarrass further.

You obviously did not watch the World cup 2002. Zidane missed 2 matches with injury. But C.Ronaldo played at the Euro's well most games and fumbled didnt make the top 23

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Instead of worrying your head over Ottmar Shitzfeld who keeps disgracing himself, you are here spewing fuckery.
Shitzfeld led Switzerland to LOSE against Luxembourg.
It's like Chelsea losing to Wikki Tourist.
Why not tell Shitzfeld to go back home and start FARMING. . . . . .He's too senile to manage any team now

How does this involve Hitzfeld we are talking about Messi and Ronaldo Or is Hitzfeld in contention for Ballon D'Or

Showstopa,

Kaka has the right to say whatever. Zidane , Beckham have given their opinion so what is wrong with Kaka giving his own
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