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4 Him (m)
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who are we buying shld be the issue on the table now not those who are leaving us.
Who is coming in? Every other team is making moves already and we are still busy crying over mr. Flamin Jeffers.
We are always being "linked" with every player that goes to another team, when will we buy one?
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tosinadeda (m)
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the main loss will be Hleb and not Flamini.
Flamini can be easily replaced, if we had Diarra we wont even be bothered.
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4 Him (m)
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All these players who are either too greedy or too eager to move clubs after one fluke season, where is Diarra now? Anywhere closer to the French team for Euro 2008?
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vicade (m)
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I LIKE TO SEE QUARESMA PLAY FOR ARSENAL
makoun dude in lille is also good i think
carlos vela is coming back
a defender maybe mexes
and of course a good striker-i will be happy if wenger can pull a coup for benzema but i doubt it
i think Diarra is actually ahead of flamini in placement in the french national team
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tosinadeda (m)
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i wouldnt call this season a fluke season for flamini, he only happened to play in his rightful position this season
we all know what he did as a left back in 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!
the guy paid his dues abeg
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tosinadeda (m)
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I LIKE TO SEE QUARESMA PLAY FOR ARSENAL
makoun dude in lille is also good i think
carlos vela is coming back
a defender maybe mexes
and of course a good striker-i will be happy if wenger can pull a coup for benzema but i doubt it
i think Diarra is actually ahead of flamini in placement in the french national team
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vicade (m)
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flamini is good but i don't see the reason for your outrage over him leaving: henry,pires,viera have left in the past so what???
The game goes on and remember it is just a game. Relax and enjoy the game. As an arsenal fan, i adore watching cristiano ronaldo because i enjoy his game. IT IS ALL A GAME.
GO and check all the qualifiers,Diarra always played ahead of flamini if need be and flamini has only capped once for france.
i also hear wenger is looking at yohann gourcuff of ac milan
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tosinadeda (m)
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u just don't get do u??? the reason we have gone trophyless for four seasons is because we keep selling and we keep building every season only to sell again when they start gelling
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Ade killed who?? How many Strikers in the HISTORY of Arsenal have scored 30 goals a season?? Even Titi at his best did not have to soldier as the sole striker for as long as Ade did this season, yet he produced results. He is the BEST striker in the land, bar Ronaldo who is on another level altogether. He's no Ian Wright, but he is the MOST PRODUCTIVE striker we have right now, so apart from Cesc, his place is also unquestioned. The reason we struggle is not due to selling - we sold Ljunberg last season, please tell me the wonderful contribution he made at W'Ham, ditto for Henry, Aliadiere and co - tell me ANY of them who had a fantastic season that made you think 'we should not have sold him'. Apart from losing Pires after the CL final, I have not regretted a single player departure in the past 3 years, they have all deserved to go. We simply have too many injury prone players IMO, if they were even fit for half the season, RVP and Rosicky alone could've given us that extra push over the finish line. This season was not like the others - why is it so hard to see that? |
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vicade (m)
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u just don't get do u??? the reason we have gone trophyless for four seasons is because we keep selling and we keep building every season only to sell again when they start gelling
Really? I wonder whether arsene wenger does not realise that. Maybe you should go and take over from wenger since you can see what wenger cannot see or better still do you suggest that since you now know why we have not won any trophy in 3 seasons, and wenger does not know we should sack wenger instead of selling players? p.s. if wenger leaves arseal today, most of those youngsters he had faith in and groomed including cesc fabregas will leave. it has been a poor season because there was yet again no trophy, but arsenal did play some wonderful football and that is a very small consolation for me not to forget watching all those many last minute goals and comebacks |
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Diarra is ahead of Flamini in the French Squad - he has more caps, and plays more regularly so that is no issue. But he doesn't play in the middle like Flam for france at least, but he still is in the squad for now. What do you know of Makoun to know he is a 'terrible idea?' have you seen him play? He has CL experience, is French/African and will come in and stay, he scores goals toowith MU and Chelski chock full of central midfielders, he probably won't be crazily expensive. @ 4Him the 'links' are not usually true, the real links come out sooner or later, and we usually don't get the 'expected' players. The stupid agents just say crap and link players to clubs to try to increase their cut or make the players more expensive. The real links will be persistent but quiet - no one really believed we would get Sagna till he came.  PS - Wenger SELL EBOUE and play Vela when he comes, that MOFO has regressed since 06 when he was excellent. who have we sold when they 'start gelling'?? I dislike this fly by night shallow analysis - The CORE of this team has remained, Flamini did not really want to stay, how is that selling? You can't force a player to stay, and given his previous history with Marseille, he was always going to take off regardless of what the club wanted. Hleb wants to go? Let him - I know he was good this season, but had MANY significant off days, with little end product Rosicky scored more than him!! Enough said on this Flamini matter, the real loss in this case IMO was Diarra - he would be getting ready to form the dynamic midfield partnership with Cesc for the next 3-4 years now, instead he went for immediate gratification - the likes of Clichy have bided their time - the call ups will come soon enough. Gunner 1915   |
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rasputinn (m)
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we both know that ade killed arsenal this season
Which Ade were you referring to,Ade Bendel or Ade Houston? Either this is a huge joke or you're just trying to look a gift horse in the mouth,i.e if you meant Ade25 |
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@ rasputinn I don't know what Nigerians have against Ade.Maybe because of that name ' Adebayor'. Maybe if he had an english sounding name like Martins or Cole OR a latin one like Gomez , he won't be on the receiving end of such insults from them. Against Manure, Ade missed a sitter against VDS and everyone shouted, Ade is an idiot,he'suseless etc. A few minutes later,Shrek missed a sitter against Mad Jens and everyone clapped for Jens for saving Arsenal  (I am not comparing Shrek with Ade,before a manc stroll in here to say all sorts  ) He wasn't prolific at all at Monaco and many wondered why AW brought him in in Jan 2006. He scored on his debut at Birmingham(I wonder how many score on their debut). He did not have a good campaign subsequently in 2006/2007,but let's be real, whoever thought Ade would score 30 goals in the 2007/2008 would have been deemed crazywhen the season began.  Ade's game has developed and he was TREMENDOUS this season, even while not scoring in games,his link up play with midfielders has been great and he does harass and bully defenders. Obviously, he ain't the finished article yet,but with what he has showed us this season,and if he really works hard, the sky is the limit. Come on, whoever thought at the beginning of the season that Ade will be amongst the six nominated for the PFA awards, or even in the best starting 11 or that Ronaldo(manure) will vote for Ade as his player of the season Please, spare Ade! He has had a good season! |
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My brothers, how una dey? I'm a fan of you guys football even though I support Chelsea and I like to discuss football with anyone, regardless of their club. What do you guys think of this article? http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=686506Arsenal Fans Must Blame Wenger, Not Flamini Arsene Wenger has mishandled the Mathieu Flamini situation, and sent a very dangerous message to the rest of his team, writes Abhishek Thakur, Only three years ago, as Arsenal prepared to move to The Emirates the following summer, the headlines were dominated by the fact that Thierry Henry was moving into the final 24 months of his contract. Attempts to get him to sign on sold newspapers throughout the season, and it was public knowledge that he would be on his way to Barcelona if he did not. He did eventually commit in an emotional moment after the Champions League final – a decision he was to reverse the following summer – but the astute Wenger had taken no chances as far as the club's future was concerned. The key point is that he understood the importance of the moment – they needed their skipper and star player as they moved to a big stadium and into a new era. He broke the trend, and Arsenal's wage policy, to hand the Frenchman a mammoth five year deal, one which put him at par with Andriy Shevchenko and Michael Ballack as far as the rich list went. Smart move. As Henry was signing, a certain Mathieu Flamini was moving into his final 24 months. Did anyone even care? What You Did Last SummerFast forward to last summer, when Flamini was moving into the final 12 months of his contract. He was, once again, conveniently ignored. What was 'the professor' doing? He was getting Cesc Fabregas – who had light years to run on his deal – to sign a massive extension through to 2014. So, before one demands loyalty from Flamini, one has to ask whether Arsenal were loyal to him. If that was business, so is this. The only reason he was not offered a new deal was because Wenger thought he was expendable at that point. He might as well have been shown the proverbial finger. Put yourself in Flamini's shoes for a moment. Would you grudge him for feeling treated like a second rate player? You move into the final year of your contract and watch as a teammate signs on for seven seasons. The person who has to answer for this is Wenger. The Arsenal manager knew full well what he was doing, and it is he who must carry the can, not Flamini. Personally, I strongly believe that the hugely improved midfielder should still have stayed at the club. He will never mean to Milan what he could have to Arsenal, just like Henry will never mean to Barcelona what he could have had he retired at the Emirates. But that is a moot point. What About Last Month?Let us move on, assuming Wenger took a calculated business decision, and assuming he thought he could get Flamini to sign on. Let us now look dispassionately at what has happened over the last month. Let's talk business. Within six months, the midfielder's stock had risen, and with that the interest of other clubs – particularly as he was available on a free. That was the risk Wenger had taken. Flamini's agents advised him to hold out for a meaty offer. Wenger was to refuse, and made it very public that he would not be blackmailed into breaking his wage policy – the very policy he had broken to keep Thierry Henry at the club. Another finger, only this time, the player decided to respond in kind. Within six hours of Arsenal's final game, he was in Milan, and another 18 hours later, he had completed a medical and signed on for four seasons at around 4 million euros per year (equivalent to around ₤60K per week). Supposedly, Arsenal would not go beyond ₤50K. I would rate Flamini at around ₤10-12 million today, even if I was to be conservative. Now, Wenger will go into the market, and probably spend at least ₤8 million as he looks to shore up his midfield again. Flamini, in that sense, would have been a free-transfer, so that eight million could easily be amortised into an extra two million over four seasons. Even from a purely business perspective, it makes no sense to let him go and then spend more money on a replacement. If Henry earned in excess of ₤100K, surely Flamini could have been offered more than ₤50K as a player effectively signed for free. There have been some great French mathematicians in the past. Arsene clearly doesn't tow that line. What Message Does This Send?And the most concerning bit is yet to come. In doing all this, Arsene has broken up a midfield partnership that was perfect for the way he likes to play his football. We have seen some absolutely amazing stuff from Arsenal this season, and a lot has to do with how Flamini has combined with Fabregas. Arsene must now strive to recreate that from scratch, with a player who may or may not suit Cesc's style. What is more, by losing a key player, he has sent a very dangerous message to the rest of his team. With a new deal for Flamini wrapped up, today, he would have been thinking of consolidating for an even stronger assault on Manchester United. Every Arsenal fan would have been thumping his chest proudly. Instead, he has told Cesc Fabregas, Emmanuel Adebayor and Alexander Hleb that he is unwilling or unable to do what it takes to keep this team together. Nice way that to demand trust. The likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter and Milan interested in one or more of those players, who will surely have been disillusioned somewhat by the developments. Reports this morning already claim that Fabregas is unsettled after Flamini's departure. Real Madrid circle over him, while Inter refuse to give up on Hleb. The chest thumping fan has been replaced by a worried one! 'Hey gaffer, if you care so much about building a team, why did you not keep Flamini?' That could so easily be the refrain, one that Wenger might struggle to respond to as mega offers start coming in. There will be teams willing to offer Adebayor and Hleb ₤80K per week, and Madrid and Barcelona would probably hand Fabregas a bumper ₤120K. Worrying times at The Emirates, and of their own doing. Be it lopsided priorities last summer, poor mathematics last month, or simply a sloppy estimation of the damage this exit could cost, there is only one person who must answer for this. So, before Arsenal fans abuse Flamini, they must ask their professor how he managed to land the club just where they were two years ago. To conclude, what would have been a summer of strengthening for Wenger now threatens to turn into three months spent desperately trying to hold on to his key players. This desperation was already evident in some of his comments about Adebayor on Monday, as well as his anger towards Ramon Calderon. Talk about swinging the axe onto your own foot! Sorry Arsene, but you have got this one completely wrong. Abhishek Thakur |
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@Ibime
Nice link and the writeup was spot on. Man Management is part of being a Great Coach.
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Jackal. (m)
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@ Ibime, God Bless You . . . . That was a well-articulated piece. . . . Letz see what Arsene's ass-licker(Debosky) will have to say to this. . . . . I am yet to see the most myopic football fan. When Arsenal lose, Debosky will come here to say it is good for the team as it will form a cohesive bond. . . He spews nonsense. If u ask him about Arsenal's 3rd TROPHYLESS SEASON, Debosky will say that was in the blueprint before the season kicked off. @ Debosky, The amount of balderdash that comes out of your faggot mouth these days is worrying. How can u say the players that left Arsenal haven't really been a ball of fire in their different clubs. . . . Can u compare Ljunberg's West Ham to a quality team like Arsenal? That your analysis is horrendously flawed. . . . Wenger's man management is nothing to write home about. . . . I can do better as a manager. Flamini and Cesc's cohesion should have been preserved by all means. . . . Wenger will now go to Swaziland or Comoros Island to sign anutha player who might gel with Cesc or not OR probably take anutha couple of seasons to be like Flamini. . . .Thats a huge risk. Anutha TROPHYLESS SEASON beckons. |
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Nice write up. But I am not sure AW should take the blame.How do u stand in the way of a player who is a free agent? AW has never stood in the way of a player who wants to leave.He has his faults(plenty)but this wasn't his. But let's be frank. Flamini is no Henry just like Cashley is no Henry. I see no comparison at all. IMO,Flamini would still have left, even if he was offered something more or even if we had won the league or the CL only that he was professional about it and still gave 110%.Me thinks, he had made up his mind a long time ago Like someone opined, he has had a fantastic season.What's the guarantee that he would have another super season?? Last season, he was about to be off loaded to Birmingham, now a chance to play for AC MIlan comes up,of course he would jump at it. Remember in all his years at Arsenal, he's been a squad player,from midfield to left back, to right back etc. This season is the longest, he's ever played for Arsenal. What if next season, he suffers a loss of form,next thing would be, how we will off load him to Norwich or Charlton(apology to the fans). In life, we take risks. Matthieu has taken one. He gave his all when he was a gunner.Hope he does well at AC Milan. |
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Jackal. (m)
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Nice write up.
But I am not sure AW should take the blame.How do u stand in the way of a player who is a free agent?
Did Flamster suddenly become a free agent? When Arsenal kept adding more years to Cesc's contracts, why didn't he pay attention to Flamini then. Lets call a spade a spade. . . .Your manager is a TWAT. Only an idiot of a gaffer will let a player like Flamini go. . . . . It's like letting Hargreaves leave Man Utd. . . Flamini is an utility player with 110% commitment. AC Milan will be licking their lips. . . .who would Arsenal buy to replace him? Maybe anutha Diaby from Lesotho. |
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Akolawole (m)
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If Wenger is indeed an Economist as he claimed, he could have given the poor boy £65k a week then sold him off thereafter.
Arsenal could have make a lot of money on that.
Let see how he manage alex's own
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d'oh what exactly is spectacular about that write-up  what was said that we all havent read here, either in form of Arsene-bashing or even Flamini-bashing @HNIC I categorically said that our most influential players this season would be ADE, CESC, HLEB and I rightly left out Flamini, though he was given a chance to prove himself which he did, I don't think he is all that, EVEN THE BEST OF PLAYERS CHANGE CLUBS ! let him leave, whaddahell ? this might just be his journey into obscurity . .who knows Adebayor to me, has been phenomenal this season and anyone that feels otherwise needs to go see his shrink AND YET WE STILL ASK THE QUESTION, SINCE THE EPL STARTED HOW MANY PLAYERS HAVE SCORED 30 GOALS OR MORE ? |
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mystikal (m)
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@ article
I don't think many arsenal fans would be so pissed with Flam, he did what any body would have done.
At te same time i wonder how many coaches would have given flamini a new contract 12 months ago.
You must understand that for the most part of last year Wenger handled coaching affairs and football admin issues. it is almost impossible 2 handle the two without one suffering, apparently player contracts and related issues suffered, there is presently no director of football @ arsenal at the moment, Edelman(the closest to that) was more of a business guru than an adminstator of football. He's going now since his job is done(stadium, highbury plots, long term future) to be replaced with someone with a better sense of a football admin, who helps in players contracts etc
Flamini can go. He isnt irreplaceable!
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Akolawole (m)
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1) what exactly is spectacular about that write-up 2) this might just be his journey into obscurity . .who knows 1) I don't even bother to read the write-up 2) Yes "Might", it can also be his best move financially and football-wisely like Bentley |
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Firstly, it is not my write-up. I don't write editorials, only news stories. I think it is a good write-up though.
I think Flamini will be a star at AC Milan. His name will be recognised as much as Patrick Vieira's and he can cement his France spot. No matter how long he stayed at Arsenal, he would never have been one of their top stars. However, if you look around Europe at the big name players in his position - Yaya Toure, Seydou Keita, Makalele, Mascherano, Vieira, Cambiasso, Diarra, even Toulalan - they all have big names and stellar reputations - which Flamini does not. I think it is time for him to take his place amongst these so called big names because he is every bit as good as they are. I don't think he would have got that recognition at Arsenal because he will always have that 'squad player' tag attached to his name. You also have to understand that his father is Italian so in a sense, he is going home.
I think the same applies to Alex Hleb. He is a top midfielder whose name can be mentioned with the best - but it is not. I think he can also cement his reputation in Italy. I am not dissing Arsenal but I think certain players there are very much underappreciated in terms of their reputation and image. IMO, Alex Song is another great player who can easily replace Flamini - we saw at the African Nations Cup how he single handedly held down Cameroon's midfield with great tactical awareness and wonderful passing ability. But if he replaces Flamini and does well, will he get the recognition he also deserves?
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Firstly the write up was rubbish (No disrespect to Ibime who i respect on the forum), comparing Henry to Flamini is the biggest insult anyone can give). Secondly, PLEASE HAS ANYONE SEEN MAJORITY OF GUNNERS EITHER CUSSING FLAMINI OR BLAMING WENGER FOR FLAMINI'S EXIT all this interest is coming from the press and folks like Jackal who have nothing else to do than focus on Arsenal Thats how he and his Man Servant went on about an "Imminent take over", till that died down. Now its "Arsenal will fall apart" and "Mass Exodus in Arsenal", when willyou guys give up this rubbish FLAMINI HAS GONE!! Thats the end of that, can he be replaced!? HELL FCUKING YES!! Will he be replaced? DEFINATELY!! So whats all the fuss about, or has Flamini suddenly become Viera Players will move where ever they want, as Jackal even noted, Divino will eventually move to Real M, not because he cannot achieve stuff with United, but because Real M is a bigger club than Scum United, the same way Milan is a biger club than Arsenal, so why shouldn't Flamini take the offer Afterall he did the same thing when he was in France, so why the hue and cry over him going to Milan (after confessing his love for Juve ) THATS LIFE GUYS!!Theo left Southhampton to come to Arsenal even when Redknapp wanted him to stay longer, Essien forced his move from Lyon to Chelsea, ballack forced his move from Bayern to Chelsea, these things happen. Look at this situation at Villa; http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article3872782.eceWill we now say O'neill is not a good manager if Barry leaves Villa for a bigger club Thank God Martin O sorted it out; http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/aston_villa/article3882706.eceAs Blogger stated, the AST met with Wenger and this was what was addressed; "On Flamini, Wenger said that Flamini had left purely because of the
money on offer. He commended the Board for having done the maximum they
could to make Flamini a good offer within sensible limits. Interestingly
he pointed out that one of the risks of having overseas players at the
club is that they are attuned to the concept of moving clubs.
On transfer activity. He said he was looking for a defensive player, to
address the team’s weakness defending route one. He said we defended as
well as Manchester United and Chelsea from set pieces and open play; but
not the long ball aimed down the middle and he would address this. He
also said he wanted a creative player and told Ken Friar that he
shouldn’t plan for much of a holiday as the phone would be busy.
He was very clear that he did not want Hleb to leave. He said that he
was sceptical that the Webster clause would be invoked. (This is
probably a reference to the gentleman’s agreement between clubs not to
do the dirty on each other). In Wengers own words, ‘we have lost one
player and we do not want to lose any more’."Flamin left on good terms, and he gave his all for the cause, AND EVERY GUNNER APPRECIATES HIS EFFORTS AND WISH HIM WELL, The same way we wished Overmars and Edu well when they left, so whats this rubbish of folks trying to paint another picture Anyways, doomsayers will be more happy with this;  http://jakartacasual(dot)blogspot(dot)com/2008/05/more-bad-news-for-arsenal-fans.htmlARSENAL IS BOUND TO CRUMBLE NOW!! Speaking of uncertainty, Akola (and Ibime) comment on this, since you like commenting on Arsenal and Arsene http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article3858294.ece GOONER 89
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loyika (m)
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Ibime That logic is flawed to say the least, Did players like Henry, Vieira, Bergy, Anelka, Cesc Fabregas, and others not get their recognition playing for Arsenal Henry is the player he is BECAUSE HE PLAYED FOR ARSENAL FC.
Cesc fab got his chance to show what he can do at ARSENAL FC.
Dennis B retired from Arsenal as a flipping football Legend.
Paddy V will always be associated with Arsenal.
Kanu N will also be remembered for his time with Arsenal FC.So what the hell are you on about If that was the case, why didn't players like Edu become stars after they left, What happened to Reyes Is Baptista any bigger having played for Madrid-Arsenal-Madrid Did Anelka win FIFA Player of the yea when he left Arsenal Oh Diarra is now a big star at Pompey Everyone wishes Flamini well, and he will always be grateful to Arsene Wenger for what he contributed to his footie knowledge, if he becomes a World Star, fair play to him, the lad deserves it, but a star can come from anywhere, doesn't have to be at a particular club, Berbatov is a star, yet he plies his trade with the flappers at Spurs, SO GO FIGURE MATE!! The only reason he wants to leave is because of the UCL, if Spurs were in the UCL, Le Sulk (2) would not leave the Lilly Whites, and he would still be considered a star!! Wasn't Scarface a star before he signed for Nazikanu FC Have they made him into a bigger Star GOONER 89 |
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^^^No, that is not the point. Reyes was a flop. Flamini was not. As for Edu, injuries have ended that debate. Even in your run to the CL final two years ago, Flamini played a brilliant role at left back. Plus, I have always been impressed with his workrate and technical proficiency as far back as 3 years ago. Flamini's performances should have guaranteed him a new contract as far back as two years ago, even before the stellar season he's just had. Look at Man Utd and Chelsea - John O'Shea, Paulo Ferreira and players of that nature always get their contract renewed. How much more a player like Flamini? The article is asking why Wenger waited till this season to even begin discussions over a new contract. That would never happen at Chelsea or Man utd. Even if you take the Flamini of two years ago - he was competent at DM, competent at LB and RB. Which squad will not want a player like that? Now, he is superb at DM, which I always thought he would be. It's Arsenal's loss, any way you look at it.
Now the reason I think he moved is this - Vieira's performances in Italy over the last 2 years do not come close to Flamini's, yet Vieira is first pick for France. What will they say when Flamini goes to Milan and outshines him week in, week out? Flamini's reputation will skyrocket. Have you heard what they are saying about Momo Sissoko over there? Sissoko is suddenly a huge star in Italy. This is a player who could not even trap ball at Liverpool.
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@ Loyika,
You are a TWAT!!!!!!
However, u are a reasonable twat unlike Debosky. . . . . . .
One thang about y'all GAYnners is u shy away from the truth!!!!!!! Your manager's man-management skills should be questioned. Comapring Flamini to Edu and Diarra is a bit short-sighted. . . . . You can do better than that, hombre!!!
Wenger must be frustrated rather than satisfied as he is going into the summer.
Granted, Arsenal played their fair share of expansive football this season and any astute manager would have been looking to strengthen the bunch rather than lose the key members. . . .
Mathieu Flamini was arguably Arsenal's most improved and consistently impressive player this season. . . .Even the likes of Cesc, Adebayor, Clichy all suffered loss of form at one period or the other but Flamini never put a foot wrong throughout the campaign. Wenger must be an idiot to lose such a fine player and the prospects of his partnership with Fabregas in the midfield.
Wenger must review his ideology,he cannot win anything with kids in the is Premiership. . . his rivals are way stronger than his set-up.
He was hoping to tweak his squad in the summer not completely over-hauling it. . . . .Wenger must hope his new buys would gel as quickly as Bacary Sagna but how often does that happen?
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loyika (m)
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Ibime You disappoint me, Didn't Scum United get into it with Wes Brown Aren't Ronnie and Deco planning to quit Barca. Isn't Drogs planning on quiting (more like he might be booted out for sh@t stirring ), Didn't Lampard drag out his contract talks, didn't Terry ask for an unreasonable wage increase Ibime, PLAYERS LEAVE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS MATE!! Flamini choose to go to Milan, Lungberg choose to go to West Ham, Sheva choose to come to Chelsea Sidwell choose to leave a team where he was playing regularly to come to where the groundsmen don't even recognise him Ibime, players do whatever they like, the gaffers can only try their best, United offered everything Heinze could want, BUT HE STILL WANTED TO GO TO THEIR NEAREST RIVALS Figo left Barca to go to Madrid Flamini has gone, we all wish him well, LET IT GO MATE!! GOONER 89 Chacal I thought you had lost it, now i know you have gone bonkers  WILL YOU COME HERE AND SAY FLAMINI IS A BETTER FOOTBALLER TO EDU AND DIARRA If you have nothing to say, just keep quiet bro |
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HNIC (m)
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@ Jackal, How can u compare Fab4 with Flamini? Flamini was nicknamed 'headless' chicken by the gunners and called a weak Ray Parlour. Up until 05/06 Cl run in where he played at Left Back, he was tagged another of AW's useless buy. In fact, he only cemented his place in the first team this season. So why should a Cesc type of offer be on the table before this season? No fault of AW at all,the lad decided his time with Arsenal was up and has moved on. |
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Akolawole (m)
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Typical Loyika |
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