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debosky (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17664 on: May 08, 2008, 08:07 PM »

nice one indeed - I will forever love him for that hat-trick at stamford bridge  Grin Grin

Back to AW and his comments, he has said clearly that he wants evolution, not revolution in his squad - a side that has improved markedly from 68 points and a second round CL exit to 83 points and a questionable Q-final exit - that is not a side that needs to be completely overhauled. Doubtless we need to strengthen, but you only need to look at Spurs down the road to show you that mass spending may not get you anything (their milk cup success not withstanding)

"When there is a problem in England, people say 'you have to buy'. But you have to consider as well the development of your players internally."

"If we lose, people leave the game and say 'Wenger you must buy a centre forward' if we haven't scored, or they want a central defender if someone has made a mistake. But you have to accept that the team can be developed."


"I believe much more in that, working in an intelligent way to make a player improve."

There you have it - AW will not shift from his core ideals of improving what he's got and building a team not simply purchasing one.

"I will try to buy, maybe in the defensive area and one on the creative side of the game as well because we had some players, important players, who were out this year," said Wenger. "We want as well to bring new talent in on the creative side of our game.


Note the plural 'important players out' - this makes me think he is looking to bring in a winger, at least to strengthen the wings, and maybe, just maybe, a striker - because to me the important players he is talking about are Rosicky and RVP and those are areas we need to improve on. He also mentions 'creative side' twice - further indicating he is thinking of probably two midfielders or MF+ST.

This is the first time in the last 3/4 years that we've gotten a definitive sense of what AW wants to do in the summer - I think it will be a pretty exciting period for Arsenal, and crucial too. Lets hope we get the players we want as quickly as possible.

For me the CB is the most crucial - we outscored everyone save MU, and our GD is better than Chelsea's - we just conceded too many soft goals.

I wouldn't get too excited with the Makoun story just yet, lets see if any reliable sources (not the blood-sucking agent) carries the news. Speculations will go on and on from now till August 31st. . .I just hope we aren't disappointed.

I think we need to do a season review after the last games this weekend and see who has really performed and who hasn't - I'm sure most of us know this already, but it would be good to see how many astute people we have here - not wolf criers and doomsday cry babies.  Tongue  Cool

Gunner 1915  Cool Grin
vicade (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17665 on: May 08, 2008, 09:16 PM »

if he needs attacking player especially on the wings, then RICARDO QUARESMA IS OKAY.

Niko krancjar is a full option player
debosky (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17666 on: May 08, 2008, 10:08 PM »

Quaresma why? because he has a big name? I'd go for Ben Arfa instead - his deal is not yet extended and we could offer him something special - plus we have a sizable French contingent at the club.

Krancjar would be good if we got him at a good price - young and energetic, might be our kind of player - and we could get him by trading someone else like say Djourou or Senderos.

I don't know who AW is looking at really, the only 'reasonable' target I've heard of is Albiol - Valencia CB; He's young at 22, has played in the CL and is TALL 6'2'' - since his club is in free fall at the moment, we could get him at a bargain.

Who else? Of course the touted Makoun would be interesting, and with Vela coming back, three such additions would make me satisfied - Krancjar/Arfa, Albiol and Makoun. If we got 74 goals last time around with all the injuries, we can get as many and more if the midfielders chip in better, even if we don't buy any forwards.

Gunner 1915  Cool Grin
Mc Omo (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17667 on: May 08, 2008, 10:38 PM »

is it the same Kranjcar that almost did not make the last World cup because his countrymen felt his pops smuggled him in by virtue of being the coach . . .wow !  Grin

less drama jare . . .Quaresma this quaresma that  Undecided
ritchboy (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17668 on: May 08, 2008, 10:47 PM »

well assuming no one else leaves, all we need is a QUALITY winger(someone capable of playing on either flank would be ideal), a QUALITY holding midfielder, and a QUALITY striker.another cb might seem a good idea now but since neither toure nor gallas would be leaving, he(whoever 'he' is) might just end up destabilizing the squad. but then again a QUALITY cb in the mould of vidic or terry could well solve our defensive problems.rio/vidic and terry/carvalho are the best central defensive pairings in the league because they complement each other(ones a hardman who is dominant in the air and the other is pacey and comfortable with the ball at his feet), with toure and gallas, its like having two left feet!
QUALITY winger- well if we're to believe the reports arsenal are currently the favourites to sign ben-arfa(that is if he decides to leave france).he would be perfect.
QUALITY holding midfielder- makoun, arsenal are also favourites to sign him.he should fit in nicely.
QUALITY striker- david villa has stated publicly he would fancy a move to arsenal.but with many other top clubs in the mix, he'd prolly cost a lot, and i don't see wenger breaking the benk for him.and with rvp likely to be out injured for large parts of next season,bendtner not being good enough to start,and eduardo still some way off full fitness, we'll need a striker to partner ade.who? i don't really know.
Imani (f)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17669 on: May 08, 2008, 10:57 PM »

@Akolawole,

Shocked you have joined the Arsenal "bashers" Angry. To think i contemplated tipping Chelsea to win something this season

Cougar (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17670 on: May 09, 2008, 02:30 AM »

is this true? alexander hleb is buying out the final 2 years of his contract for 3 million??
as much as i cannot stand arsenal, hleb is one player i admire.
is arsenal crumbling as a club?
HNIC (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17671 on: May 09, 2008, 07:26 AM »

Quote from: Cougar on May 09, 2008, 02:30 AM
is this true? alexander hleb is buying out the final 2 years of his contract for 3 million??
as much as i cannot stand arsenal, hleb is one player i admire.
is arsenal crumbling as a club?

OH, You haven't heard, there are many more players to follow,including Eboue, Senderos, Djorou,Song and even the gaffer is leaving.(Don't forget that the MD has left also)
At this rate, Lady Nina and the rest of the tight fisted board may pick up shirts and lace boots when the league starts around early AUgust and we may sign up some cheap African starlets from Mauritania and Cape Verde before the window closes. Grin Grin Grin

Don't u guys get tired of fanthoming every year that Arsenal is about to DIE Huh Huh Huh
When Paddy left,same story,when Henry left,same thing,
I have even heard here that AW was stupid to let Ljunberg go.
Is it not the same Ljungberg that West Ham is questioning their mental state for actually signing him. Huh Huh ???They are on their knees begging him to go. Grin Grin Grin
I think some guys are secretly fans of Arsenal. Tongue
Guess that's why they are more worried than the REAL stake holders
dayokanu
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17672 on: May 09, 2008, 09:05 AM »

According to the Daily Mail, Emmanuel Adebayor has threatened to throw Arsenal into full-blown crisis by following Mathieu Flamini and Alexander Hleb out the door unless they make him into one of the Premier League's top earners

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=689254
topeorekoy (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17673 on: May 09, 2008, 09:13 AM »

one wish i want AW to do is to break the salary structure of the club. arsenal shld be the least paying team in the big 4. why can't he just make these players earn cash like their mate with all their contributions. thats why a player will always jump at a mega bucks from a big team else where. ashley cole did, flamini left, hleb is going and adebayor wants to go too? why can't he just up their wages
rasputinn (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17674 on: May 09, 2008, 09:14 AM »

Quote from: dayokanu on May 09, 2008, 09:05 AM
According to the Daily Mail, Emmanuel Adebayor has threatened to throw Arsenal into full-blown crisis by following Mathieu Flamini and Alexander Hleb out the door unless they make him into one of the Premier League's top earners

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=689254

Huhh,why do they always rush to press with this balderdash of a news item
pleaaaaase
rasputinn (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17675 on: May 09, 2008, 09:17 AM »

Quote from: topeorekoy on May 09, 2008, 09:13 AM
one wish i want AW to do is to break the salary structure of the club. why can't he just make these players earn cash like their mate

Afterall they are professional footballers and there's a professional rate that obtains @ their level
dayokanu
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17676 on: May 09, 2008, 09:25 AM »

Who in this world can resist higher wages Maybe rassputin but not dayokanu, Ashley cole, Flamini, Hleb and probably Adebayor
jaymes (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17677 on: May 09, 2008, 09:28 AM »

UP GUNNERS!!!!! FOR LIFE!!!!!!!
whats up guys, any speculations as to who Wenger is buying? because i think we need a striker, this one that eduardo is out! and Adebayor should better not be leaving, because the club will be in ruins, Abeg O!
coded guy (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17678 on: May 09, 2008, 09:54 AM »

Quote from: jaymes on May 09, 2008, 09:28 AM
UP GUNNERS!!!!! FOR LIFE!!!!!!!
whats up guys, any speculations as to who Wenger is buying? because i think we need a striker, this one that eduardo is out! and Adebayor should better not be leaving, because the club will be in ruins, Abeg O!

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

You better start supporting Wikki Tourist.
There would be little heartbreaks. Tongue
bluehorizo (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17679 on: May 09, 2008, 10:17 AM »

He deserves a wage increment. A 30 goal striker earning 35k per week! Haba Wengylo! Wenger is a slave master. Sad Sad Adebayor Milan,Intern,Barca,Madrid are all for you. Leave that Prof and find a better life. Afterall,he has threatened you that you could become a nobody.
Mc Omo (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17680 on: May 09, 2008, 10:36 AM »

@bluehorizo

are u sure that is the correct id u would have loved to use or u just can't type right to save your life ?  Tongue  Undecided

shut da hell up . . . .none of your biz !!!  Tongue

@All

If there is any one that deserves a higher pay, it has to be Adebayor . . .motivate him now with that, get him another quality pair upfront not some Hleb-bing options, or lone striker options AND HE WOULD FLY  Cool
rasputinn (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17681 on: May 09, 2008, 11:02 AM »

Quote from: dayokanu on May 09, 2008, 09:25 AM
Who in this world can resist higher wages Maybe rassputin but not dayokanu, Ashley cole, Flamini, Hleb and probably Adebayor

Is your intellectual depth that shallow?
What in my last post suggested I was against higher wages?
Duuuhhhhhhhhhhhh
bluehorizo (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17682 on: May 09, 2008, 11:05 AM »

Ajegunle militant,wetin now? Shebi i'm only advocating for Ade's wage rise. No bad belle Tongue Tongue Tongue
Mc Omo (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17683 on: May 09, 2008, 11:29 AM »

carry your blue self out of this thread jare . . .u be Adebayor brother  Tongue  Undecided
Mustay (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17684 on: May 09, 2008, 12:23 PM »

GOOD BOY ashley


u knew arsenal could never win you the ucl! Grin Grin Grin Tongue Tongue Cool

HNIC (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17685 on: May 09, 2008, 12:36 PM »

I still ponder and wonder why so many non-fans are this much interested in the dealings at Arsenal.Only Flamster has been confirmed as an ex-gunner.Nothing official as per the rest.
Now everyone is interested in everything about Arsenal's wage structure.
I think I even heard last night that some back room staff and several ball boys at the emirates have tendered their resignation letters.They just found out that they can earn thrice what they are earning at some other epl clubs.Heard one or two will be off to Italy Grin Grin Grin Grin.
Mc Omo (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17686 on: May 09, 2008, 12:49 PM »

don't mind them . . .bloody voyeurs !  Cool
baddestguy
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17687 on: May 09, 2008, 12:52 PM »

http://goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=689059

Arsenal In Tatters As Hleb Follows Flamini

THIS IS A  REALLY SAD STORY, AS  MUCH AS I WILL LIKE TO CONSOLE MYSELF THAT THIS MIGHT STILL BE  A RUMOUR. . . I HAVE TO FACE REALITY. . .
                                   
                                     HLEB IS GOING. . . I HATE WENGER
vicade (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17688 on: May 09, 2008, 01:01 PM »

Hleb and flamini were almost nobody before they came to arsenal. Wenger will replcate them. If cesc fabregas could replcae viera and Clichy (who is better than ashley cole) could replace ashley cole and henry could score only about 12 goals for barca while adebayor scored 30 goals,Ljunberg is forgettable thanks to cameo performances from walcott. i M CONFIDENT.

LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE, AT LEAST for one wenger knows he has to spend big during the summer and has admitted into bringing experienced players. i heaar Alberto Aqualini of AS Roma is on his books too.

AND REMEMBER GUNNERS, THIS SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING ARSENAL IN TATTERS WERE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT PREDICTED ARSENAL TO TAKE FIFTH OR SIXTH PLACE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON BECAUSE HENRY LEFT.
baddestguy
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17689 on: May 09, 2008, 01:12 PM »

3RD IS NOT TOO FAR FROM 5TH . . . BUT YOU HAVE A POINT SHA. . .
. . . AND ABOUT CLICHY, WALCOTT. .E.T.C, URE RITE BUT ARSENAL IS BECOMING A SELLING CLUB, WE  HAD TWO OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN EUROPE IN HLEB AND FLAMINI. . .NOW WE HAVE TO START DEVELOPING ALL OVER AGAIN. . .DAMN!!!!!!!!
dejilegs (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17690 on: May 09, 2008, 01:43 PM »

the simple truth is, Arsenal will still be BIG next season,
football'ing' is just like working,  a new company gives u an offer with higher pay or u think the new company will take u to higher places but,
it doesn't always work out,  if Henry cud turn bac the  hands of time, do u think he would re-choose the Barca offer?

i respect Flamini's move,  his contract is off, but Hleb and Adebayor, though still speculations, can leave if they want.
the best way to scare off buyers on players u don't want to go is to put an 'unreasonably' huge tag on them, if anyone buys them at that rate,  FINe!!!

I mean, ow can Adebayor ask for 85k a week from a former of 35k,  aba , if u were the coach, will u approve that?, especially from a player who can't do it all.
Adebayor is good but has a 1001 weak-points. if him wan go, fine,
u buy another big player with the money and still get it going,

The thing is, Wenger doesn't just think of winning trophies with his boys, he's into developing their lifes, and thats y he doesn't hav the thing for 'made' players, most are stubborn,,,

but he sure needs to buy some good ones this time.

Arsenal will get better by nex season , take it or leave it.
HNIC (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17691 on: May 09, 2008, 03:39 PM »

The Grapevine has it in Spain that Pep Guardiola is planning a summer clear out and that players that will be shown the exit door include-Gudhessen,Dinho,Edmilson,Henry,Dos Santos,Thuram,Oleguer,Jorquera,Yaya Toure .
I think Yaya would be a good acquisition after we missed out on him when he was still in Greece.
Hope AW will be monitoring the situation.


Meanwhile, this looks good if it's true

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/05/09/sfnars109.xml
presido1 (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17692 on: May 09, 2008, 04:20 PM »

Cech must be a wicked guy, anyway its not his fault.
http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=688732

Mass exodus, i said it sometimes last two months.
Let sit and admire what is happening but at the same time its not good for EPL.
As only the chavs will challenge the might Reds.
Wenger please keep them players and buy more even from Oldham. Grin Grin Grin Grin
J UNIT (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17693 on: May 09, 2008, 05:34 PM »

what are we discussing all this things for, wenger will do whatever he wants to do, don't be suprised if he doesn't sign any recognisable player this season, every year we keep on getting dissapointed with the names he brings in, and also you never know, you might not no the player but wenger knoes just how to select the right player we need, look at sagna.

presido1 (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17694 on: May 09, 2008, 05:42 PM »

Quote from: J UNIT on May 09, 2008, 05:34 PM
what are we discussing all this things for, wenger will do whatever he wants to do, don't be suprised if he doesn't sign any recognisable player this season, every year we keep on getting dissapointed with the names he brings in, and also you never know, you might not no the player but wenger knoes just how to select the right player we need, look at sagna.
Then why are you getting disappointed every year. I think this guy(wenger) has taken all of una brain box or you guys just dashed it out to some people.
folahann (m)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only
« #17695 on: May 09, 2008, 06:39 PM »

Players' exit can be blamed on Wenger, he likes to keep them but he's sometimes left with little to do; Flamoney knew what he was plying for and that's revealed. Arsenal could to do better without him, Hleb leaves arsenal for Inter at his own peril.
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