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mukina2 (f)
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I'm training her well you wish  Nothing is wrong in bringing up young players missy  . Anderson and Nani you guys call young, didnt they start off as someone's project? Name Wenger's youth players that have left . i mean players he raised . . am not talking of those that were constantly on loan o. Fact is no one can see into the future. so what if Flam left? as far as i am concerned, if a player leaves like the likes of flam and cashley, they deserve to be cussed by the fans  . Have you ever seen gunners on NL diss Veira or Pires?  when a player plays well we will be happy forhim and for the club and for ourselves as fans  Eboue is currently an Arsenal player but people still diss it, so whats ur point anyways?  Didnt Owen say the same about staying at Liverpool? didnt becks did the same?  Henry thought he could win the UCL so he came up with fickle excuses  Most of those boys are loyal to AW and not to the club  if he was to leave then we will all be worried. Some of them their loyalty cannot be tested. and yeah i say again Fabregas!  I hope you read where Ade openly rubbished all rumours and showed his loyalty to Aw and Arsenal  Rooney kei  If Ade was British he would have been hyped too . abeg make i hear word  Remember WC?  Rooney blah blah what did he get in the end . a nice red card  . Girl unlike you guys who see no wrong when their players mess up we do  If you are being honest with ur self, Rooney didnt have a good season . accept! The guy missed lots of sitters . so whats the difference between him and Ade . Am not talking of any other season but for this one Ade is better sue me . He made the team of the season darling. Rooney did not  . Shows Ade is getting there  . Puhlease take out Messi from that list  maybe ETo would have suited perfectly in ur list  If Wenger wants to buy one experienced player darling thats him. He knows what he is doing . Wenger knows 
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debosky (m)
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@ Kit aka Adebayor's agent even with all tbe noise about Ade scoring and all, he still shows he has a underdeveloped footballing brain  If not, how on earth will a striker with sense be offside a whopping 66 times in a season?? Highest offsides in the premiership!  That is why AW says the dude has to improve- if you give him 80k now, how much will you give him when he stops being a MOFO and pays more attention to staying onside than dancing Makossa with Eboue?  That said, his shot conversion was very close to CR's, so he is still a very good striker, apart from that, make we hear word!  @ Crystalzwelcome back after a long sabbatical  On the issue of players, lets wait till the end of May, AW should have something concrete for us by then  Gunner 1915 
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4 Play (m)
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So Gaynners think signing Ben Arfa will be a good move?  Hopeless ignoramuses! What good will that show pony do for you guys? He belongs in the circus.Tellingly,Arsenal haven't given any indication about their supposed interest in signing him.Arfa is simply angling for a move to London. About Arsenal's youth policy,where were you retarded Gaynners when I noted last season that very few of Arsenal's youngsters will actually mature into world-class players and that the few that do might seek to pursue greener pastures elsewhere? Bringing up budding talents is one thing,keeping them is another.Ask Ajax.If you guys were prepared to pay Sol Campbell £100k per week,I can't see why you maintain such a ridiculous wage structure,especially while the manager is earning far more than Fergie who is even more successful. The key reason Adebayor hasn't started being a nuisance is that other top clubs are still unconvinced about his talent.No other club has indicated a desire to sign him,thus,he has very little bargaining power.Club scouts have adopted a "wait and see" approach with Ade to ensure this season wasn't a one-off PS:Funny that Flaimini will be playing in the UEFA Cup next season given his stated reason for leaving.
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4 Play (m)
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That said, his shot conversion was very close to CR's, so he is still a very good striker, apart from that, make we hear word!  There is an obvious reason for the above.Ronaldo spent most of his season on the flanks,so his shots were from further afield to Ade's. Simply put,Ronaldo tends to shoot from distance,Ade tends to shoot from a closer range.Ade has no business tying with Ronaldo in the conversion stakes. The accurate measure is how Ade compares to his fellow strikers,not to wingers, especially those who play as the 'arrowhead' of their side's attack
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debosky (m)
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Well when compared to Torres - he's only marginally worse at 23% compared to 25% for Torres  surprisingly Yakubu has the highest percentage at 28% shot conversion. Thank you for seeing through those lies given by Flamini - playing in the UEFA cup as well as struggling and likely failing to win the league again is what will happen to him at Milan, he might as well shut up and collect his money quietly. We were willing to pay that much for Sol Campell, and what happened? We won the prem the year after, plus he was an established international, excellent in his position and coming in on a free transfer. Flamini has ONE outstanding season and wants to earn as much as Cesc? No way Jose. Ben Arfa may be a good move, at least he scores with more frequency than Hleb or MOFO Eboue doesplus he's 21 and can still learn a thing or two unlike the latter who are stuck in their ways  But as you clearly said, signing players is no guarantee, much less a potentially temperamental Ben Arfa (sounds a bit like Diarra with his singsong - 'i must start') But anyone who knows about Arsenal's transfer system know that you'll never hear the club talk about a player till they announce the signing - AFC doesn't engage in speculation much, so the lack of any noise from within the Gunner camp is not an indication of interest or otherwise. The truth is that much of our production line goes into the lower rungs of the league or to the championship - we need to produce and retain more top class talent. AW has admitted as such and we may begin to see such happening soon enough in the next 2-3 years. I would not regard Flamini as our 'product' anyways, the truth is, he's always left other clubs for his own personal interest above all else - leaving Marseilles in the lurch after 'agreeing' a new deal. His actions were not unexpected to me.
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Imani (f)
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Debosky, my brother, please ignore the likes of 4play.  We all know he is always up to no good when it comes to the mighty Arsenal.  4play, stop calling us gayners!!  If you want some man on man action, i am sure some of your fellow muppets united fans will gladly oblige you  Although, too much bending is not good for you. 
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hucarson (m)
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@ Debosky,
While signing players is no guarantee to success, NOT SIGNING players gives a club no chance at all. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Man United were the biggest spenders last summer and did it worth their while? A resounding YES!!!!! Lets imagine Man United without their summer addition!!!! Ferguson would have crashed out of Europe(No Vidic and Rooney), United would have finished 4th or 5th in the Premiership. You don't win lottery without a raffle ticket. Arsenal should start spending! They must match their rivals if they want to compete realistically next season.
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debosky (m)
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Are you being serious Hucarson??
The largest contributors to your success this term have been - a rock solid defence (NO addition last term) and the phenomenal form of Ronaldo. Nani did little if anything to the quest, and Hargreaves was a bit player at best, injured for long spells, while Anderson made a reasonable impact.
Of all the summer buys, I would say Tevez made the biggest impact, but still that cannot be given as the reason for the success.
chelsea bought sidwell, pizzarro, belletti, malouda and co - how much did they contribute to the title charge? wasn't it the old hands including Ballack who shouldered most of it?
Season before - MU bought ONE player and won the league - was it buying that got it for you then?
Let it be clear - we are also buying, but anyone thinking buying will guarantee or by itself ensure victory is living in la la land, and is looking for another excuse.
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Imani (f)
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@ Debosky,
While signing players is no guarantee to success, NOT SIGNING players gives a club no chance at all. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Man United were the biggest spenders last summer and did it worth their while? A resounding YES!!!!! Lets imagine Man United without their summer addition!!!! Ferguson would have crashed out of Europe(No Vidic and Rooney), United would have finished 4th or 5th in the Premiership. You don't win lottery without a raffle ticket. Arsenal should start spending! They must match their rivals if they want to compete realistically next season.
I completely agree with you. While some may argue that we already have a peculiar wage structure, i still believe we need to spend money for the best players. No point in having a nice studium with no trophy to show.  I think Debo mentioned something about evolution not revolution as Wenger's strategy. I think it should be the other way round. If we don't keep up with the competition, we will get left behind. God forbid Totenham draw closer to us in coming seasons.
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hustler (m)
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Thank you for seeing through those lies given by Flamini - playing in the UEFA cup as well as struggling and likely failing to win the league again is what will happen to him at Milan, he might as well shut up and collect his money quietly.
Bad belle fans, Leave the guy alone and let him be. because u couldn't pay him a mere 70k pounds when u have enough money Stingy club. Uefa cup or Intertoto cup Truth is Milan is a far more attractive club than Arsenal. With a far more accomplished trophy cabinet and we are not talking bout trophies like EMirates cup or Amsterdam cup. Let the guy be abeg he has made his decision, bad belle fans like u shld be blaming ur mgt not the player. FYI Milan will play in the UCL by gaining qualification on SUnday, Mark my words
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debosky (m)
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so he went to milan to admire their full trophy cabinet eh?  please tell me what they are winning this season? second round CL and 4th place in the Calcio?  There is no 'bad belle' I'D prefer a player tell the truth than try to sound 'above it' - he left for money, let him say so like Cashley did.  Blaming him? no way, but don't try to hoodwink us when we know the truth 
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hucarson (m)
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Are you being serious Hucarson??
The largest contributors to your success this term have been - a rock solid defence (NO addition last term) and the phenomenal form of Ronaldo. Nani did little if anything to the quest, and Hargreaves was a bit player at best, injured for long spells, while Anderson made a reasonable impact.
Of all the summer buys, I would say Tevez made the biggest impact, but still that cannot be given as the reason for the success.
I beg to differ, mate. While a rock solid defence helped United's cause, some squad players also did their bit. Owen Hargreaves playing as a right back when Vidic was out!!! Tevez helping out when Rooney was out THRICE this season!!!! Nani also filled in for ageing Ryan Giggs and so on and forth. Arsenal will not win anything if they don't buy at least 5-7 players this summer. No one is asking them to but 40 million pound players. They should just stock up and get decent players who can help Cesc when legs r heavy.
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4 Play (m)
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FYI Milan will play in the UCL by gaining qualification on SUnday, Mark my words
The only reason I would prefer Milan over the Viola is that I am a big fan of Italian football and I want the Italians to do well in next season's UCL . Other than that,it will be hard on Fiorentina to miss out.Prandelli has done a fantastic job despite his wife's death.Maybe missing out my force Milan to engage in a long overdue wholesale overhaul of their squad. Finishing 4th last season did Bayern a lot of good. Flamini is only 24,thus,even if he misses out on next season.He still has many years ahead.
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hustler (m)
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so he went to milan to admire their full trophy cabinet eh?  please tell me what they are winning this season? second round CL and 4th place in the Calcio?  There is no 'bad belle' I'D prefer a player tell the truth than try to sound 'above it' - he left for money, let him say so like Cashley did.  Blaming him? no way, but don't try to hoodwink us when we know the truth  Every player would die to play for a BIG and ACCOMPLISHED European club, FLamini is no different. He knows he will achieve at Milan no mattr what as Milan cannot go trophyless for 3 years, We are winning nothing this season but we have WON the European super cup and Club World cup which i doubt have a spot in ASSANAL's cabinet. Flamini left for his future. WHen a player has performed very well he needs to be rewarded \adequately not a mere 50k pounds a week will do the trick. The only reason I would prefer Milan over the Viola is that I am a big fan of Italian football and I want the Italians to do well in next season's UCL .
Other than that,it will be hard on Fiorentina to miss out.Prandelli has done a fantastic job despite his wife's death.Maybe missing out my force Milan to engage in a long overdue wholesale overhaul of their squad. Finishing 4th last season did Bayern a lot of good.
Flamini is only 24,thus,even if he misses out on next season.He still has many years ahead.
U r damn right because if d Viola qualify i doubt they have the depth and financial capacity for a quality squad to compete on all fronts. They will get burnt just like Lazio did. Kudos to Prandelli as he is a top coach anyday. The Viola are weak away moreso without Mutu and will fall at Torino on Sunday while Milan will steamroll Udinese,
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A-40 (m)
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I have this funny feeling that Arsene will definitely buy players this time.Ben Arfa would be a good buy any money made of the sale of Hleb would do we shouldnt foot-drag on this and he should also remember the Abrahamovich's Transfer Law (If you are going to buy a player make sure i don't know about it)Bosingwa is a very good example of that law
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dayokanu (m)
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What wrong with Flamini playing UEFA cup? Is he bigger than those who have played UEFA cup before? Lucatoni, Ribery, Zidane, Ronaldo Lima, Ronaldinho have all played at some time and he is not in the shadows of those mentioned.
I also want Milan to qualify because they are one team that can be relied on to take out some EPL teams, Bayern would also voluteer to take some out (especially Man Utd)
Though also Milan also poses a BIg threat to bayern. In our last 5 UCL campaign , Milan eliminated us 3 times. !!
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rasputinn (m)
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[quote author] [and eboue is SHIT as a winger(still an exceptional rb IMO)
No man,Eboue is SHIT through and through
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rasputinn (m)
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IMO The two players that AW wants to buy are not adequate. We need a minimum addition of a CB,midfielder and striker to have a semblance of strength in depth for next season
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rasputinn (m)
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Meanwhile,our neighbours a very busy still
Tottenham keen on former Chelsea and Arsenal midfielder
"Not content with snapping up the exciting Luka Modric for £16.5million, Tottenham are looking to bolster their midfield further by adding the Premier League journeyman Lassana Diarra to their ranks. The midfielder has already been on the books at Chelsea and Arsenal, before joining Portsmouth during the January transfer window. Many have suggested that if the player had stayed at the Emirates, they may have put up more of a title challenge".
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Mc Omo (m)
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atimes these guys talk as if it is not the same Wenger that we had always known . . . .  @Debosky o gbadun rara . . . have u joined Loyika in the specsavers' queue  na wa for una  where exactly have I said Ade deserves 80k . . .I MAINTAIN . . .HE HAS PROVEN HIS WORTH, IF HE GETS ANY MORE, EVEN IF PLUS 15K . . HE DESERVES IT !!!  I wonder why peeps keep comparing Rooney with Adebayor even when he has shown himself more prolific and even more productive than Rooney . . .he misses sitters . . .who doesnt  Berba or Torres  atimes u guys just castigate blindly . . . .  am I of those here prior to this season was very harsh on him . . . .I only started believing so much in him early this season and he has repaid my faith in him . . .so y'all go on and castigate him and MAKE SURE HE DOESNT HAVE SOMEONE TO PAIR HIM UPFRONT WITH  Wenger go just dey shit for body P.S this is not for any non-gunner to capitalize on . . .we are just catching fun amongst ourselves
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debosky (m)
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Ol Boy all the garri you soaked in the barren days before Fash has destroyed your eyes - E be like say you miss out on them free 'jigi Bola' days  Weren't you the one doing some crazy calculations a few pages back about How much Ade deserves? As far as I'm concerned, in order to make him improve, AW should deduct 1000 pounds from every paycheck for each offside decision against him - that would be 66k this season alone  The boy is too playful - instead of learning to stay onside, after every game he goes to dance makossa and galala with Eboue in the parking lot - na wetin we dey pay am for be that?  Rooney get football brain, Ade is just learning small small, even that small boy Bendtner get sense pass am!  Offside 66 times in 35 games?? that is almost 2 offsides per game - the guy is just too dull! The only striker worthy of that kind of pay so far is Dudu - quote me any day! I pray he gets back to full form, because he will be the deadliest striker in our team. Wenger has changed this season - I can assure you that the pain of losing the title has gotten to him - he will do everything necessary (in his own mind - not dancing to nightrider's tune  ) to make sure we WIN next season. To all the rumor mongers - Hleb's agent has said he won't buy out his contract, that he is a 'gentleman' - so that means two things - He will not leave or will only leave when AW gets a good deal out of it, similar to the case with Cashley, meaning we will have sufficient cash to replace him. This makes me more at ease. The reports say the guy no dey feel London life - we might have a Reyes crybaby the second on our hands.
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Mc Omo (m)
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d'oh  Rooney has more football brains than Adebayor  guy, Razorr and lately Cristalz have been feeding u with too much milk from NAFDAC-unapproved chesticles  what is the essence of the brains when u don't score goals with 'em  Rooney should be ashamed at Ronaldo outscoring him what do u think we would have been saying about Ade if Fab4 had outscored him  . . . .hell would have been let loose on how we need to loan him to sootin' stars !!! do u still wonder why Fergie planned to hijack him last season  how on earth can u be comparing dudu with Ade ? in what manner ? how ? where ? IN UR NIGHTMARES ?  u also complain about his playfulness . . .have u forgotten how playful Henry was ? and how he used to be his BROTHER'S KEEPER  lol . . . abeg . . . Ade is just trying to take after Henry jare . . .leave him be ! 
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debosky (m)
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Which playfulness from Henry?? Was it not the stupid makossa dancing with Ade that got Henry injured last season?  That boy just ruined Henry's last season with those stupid dances. At least Henry was always serious on the pitch, never going offside like a MOFO  Rooney still scored good goals jare, and he was not playing as lone striker upfront for most games.  check out Rooney's assists and compare them to Ade's, very few! I still remember that stupid moment at B'ham, instead to pass to Nicklas, he was doing strong head and messed up the chance. If Fab4 outscored Ade, I won't be surprised - Fab4 is millions of miles ahead of Ade anyways.  How can't I compare Dudu with Ade? Aren't they both strikers? I pray Dudu comes back soon next season and shows y'all he is the KING. Ade will be cut down to his correct size then.  Don't get me wrong, Ade is my boy, but he is FAR FAR from being the finished article - get a first touch and football sense to stay onside, then we'll talk. 
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Mc Omo (m)
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haaaaaaaaaaaa . . . . .  Debo . . .u dey f@ck up  Dudu compared with Adebayor ?  are u on some cheap spliffs . . . .  Adebayor really got on people's nerves . . but do u remember the many disses dudu got here before he began to peak in form before the Taylor tackle  Ade has shown what stuff he is made of . . yes we can talk about that ! not some EDUARDO that the jury is still out on. . . LET HIM IMPROVE ON HIS PACE, DRIBBLE-ABILITY, STAMINA ET AL before u can pick up an agent tag for him  and bros . . .hope u remember that FAB4 faded out at a time this season 
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folahann (m)
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Ade has proved his his worth but he has a long long way to go, he's definitely the best striker this concluded season; scoring in nine consecutive matches, he may not be consistent enough but he has tried his best and Ade needs to get serious. Rooney will continue to be hyped day by day but that will not take him near Adebayor
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debosky (m)
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Dudu's performance was not the problem, AW was still misbehaving at that point, playing Dudu - a cold blooded poacher as a left winger. That was why he was not performing.  Once he started playing him in a striking role, goals started to come - quality goals too  Ade sef lost form this season, who didn't? Except maybe Sagna and Clichy, all our players lost form at some point on the other, so that is no news. The jury is not out on Eduardo - he scored 12 in his debut season - Ade scored 3 so compare and contrast.  Pace is not Dudu's forte, but dribbling? Ade dribbles himself first before anyone else  Ol boy leave this matter, Ade is good, but not good enough for 80K - even DD no dey collect that much!
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folahann (m)
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As we all know; Eduardo is a natural finisher, he doesn't make a fool of himself in front of goal and he's perfect as a strike partner. Dudu is a more serious player than Ade confirmed! hopes he comes back soon. I don't believe he scored up to 12 goals this season with that limited no of matches started and played.
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rasputinn (m)
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@ Debosky
I never said we needed 5 more players,not that it'D be a bad idea to offload eboue,senderos & co then get quality better replacements. But realistically,you and I know that it's easier for the Nigeria police to stop taking bribes @ check points than for AW to sign that much number of players in a single season.
I only said 3 (THREE)
Don't kid yourself Debsky,don't you think we would have fared better if Ade had a strike partner to complement his efforts (with the season-long injury of RVP and Dudu of late),or if we had bolstered our defence before the ACN (gosh,the backline couln't even defend any of our leads WHEN IT MATTERED MOST)
Bottom line is Arsenal is too big a club for anyone to jubilate that we finished 4 points behind the league winners (NOT AFTER WE HAD STAYED 3 SEASON TROPHYLESS)
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topeorekoy (m)
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SEE what i just saw on goal.com. isnt this just a flimsy excuse? so milan is not noisier that london? if he wants to go he shld just go and stop giving useless excuses Hleb, 27, has been linked with a move to Italian giants Internazionale since late February, with Barcelona and even Real Madrid also being named as potential suitors.
However, it is Inter who are said to be leading the way, with the player even thought to have held an illegal meeting with some of the club's representatives when his side were in Italy facing Inter's city rivals Milan in the Champions League.
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has revealed he knows what went on during that meeting and is threatening to report the Nerazzurri to FIFA for illegally approaching his player.
More recently, Wenger has insisted that rumours the Belarus international will be buying out his contract (as per the Webster ruling) are false, and that as long as he is under contract he will remain at the club, as they are unwilling to sell.
This merely seems like it will ultimately be an exercise in futility, as the player's agent has voiced his client's desire to leave the club and now Hleb himself is chiming in, albeit with his excuse being somewhat flimsy.
“I’m not a big city man, I need my retreat, that’s why I’m often in Germany," he explained, according to The Sun.
“Stuttgart [where he played prior to Arsenal] is my second home, my friends are there and it is where I feel most comfortable.”
Agent Nikolai Shpilevski added: “Alex is tired of the noisy and chaotic life in London and feels like living in calmer surroundings.”
http://goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=695045
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doncaster (m)
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Is Hleb really 27? That's quite funny because people talk about young gunners but truthfully Liverpool and Man United probably have just as many, if not more, youngsters. Hleb's 27, Rosicky's 27. Gallas is what, 30? Toure is 27. Gilberto is 31. Almunia is 30 too.Lahmann is 38, Even the young Eduardo almost 26. The shit fans that will never see reality will attack me now. Who cares.
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HNIC (m)
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The truth is that if Hleb wants to go, he should go.  I am not sure AW would stand in his way. He's not demanding a wage increase anyway,so the serial analysts with warped logic would not have much to say. He says London is noisy and chaotic, well, we all know Milan will be a quiet and paeceful city  Well,au revoir Mr.Hleb, if you no longer believe in the Cause.
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