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anton (m)
Kwara Agricultural Project
« on: July 05, 2006, 11:30 PM »

Anybody from the Kwara state?  Who knows about the Kwara Agricultural Project?

http://www.kwaraproject.com/

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare1.com/News/zimfarmers.htm

http://www.vanguardngr.com/articles/2002/politics/p226042004.html

It's very ambitous to say the least!
Deep Soul (f)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #1 on: July 06, 2006, 12:28 PM »

I hate to sound pessimistic but they (they being the govt and its cohorts) all start up sounding "ambitious"! Where does that eventually lead us???

2ndly, I took the paaaaaaaaiiins to glance through some of the articles and I couldn't help but notice the phrase "white farmers" laced in almost every sentence! And it just goes to further prove just how the average Nigerian sees the white man - as a sorta "mini god"! We have this mentally which I see as wayyyyyyyy backwards - the mentality of not being good enough or not nearly as good as the "white man". It can be seen everyday in Nigeria.

Walk into any establishment (offices, schools, even churches!) in YOUR country and u'r treated like u'r not important. And just maybe u aren't. Fine. The annoying part is how these same fellow Nigerians treat people with a different skin colour differently, like they deserve better! Even in our own country! U go to their countries and u'r treated like trash. Fine. Na u carry ur leg go there. What I see as intolerable is when that same thing happens in my domain. I could go on and on about this and be able to write a 1 million page book!
I'm glad there is some form of opposition to this "idea" because like some senators rightly said, it WILL lead to racial discrimination and land wahala which I'm sure we had pots full of in the colonial era!

And no, I'm not forgetting the positive effects it might have on our economy, I'm only wondering why it didnt work wonders for the wrecked Zimbabwean economy! Imagine Zimbabwe being considered as "foreign", Oh puhleese!
Seun (m)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #2 on: July 06, 2006, 12:46 PM »

The only problem with this project is that it's government controlled.  If the white farmers came to Nigeria to buy land from us for the purpose of agriculture, I would see the project as a small step forward, and this expectation that the project should "work wonders for our economy" wouldn't exist. It would be just like any other private project.
Deep Soul (f)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #3 on: July 06, 2006, 01:00 PM »

Unfortuantely, it IS a govt-controlled programme. And we're usually psychic when it comes to the govt, we can guess how they'll fare eventually.
I wouldn't have had as much problems with it if it were to be privately-run. Afterall, we have enough of the "foreign thing" in the oil and gas sector.
henryphyol (m)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #4 on: July 06, 2006, 04:49 PM »

I am from Ifelodun in Kwara state the government is just blowing itś trumphet there is wide spread poverty in the state the people are not empowered because they see empowerment as a threat to them they classified Kwara as a northern state the muslims can complain because there have islamised the state and any talk against the leaders means a talk against their religion well the generation that will retore kwara to itś proper place has been born my parent may have been quite but i would not!!! Out of the 12 states created the same time Kwara is the least developed!!!
naijacutee (f)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #5 on: July 06, 2006, 07:15 PM »

I am totally agianst it as it would ruin / compete with my plans for the near future,
anton (m)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #6 on: July 07, 2006, 03:51 AM »

Quote from: Deep Soul on July 06, 2006, 12:28 PM
I hate to sound pessimistic but they (they being the govt and its cohorts) all start up sounding "ambitious"! Where does that eventually lead us???

2ndly, I took the paaaaaaaaiiins to glance through some of the articles and I couldn't help but notice the phrase "white farmers" laced in almost every sentence! And it just goes to further prove just how the average Nigerian sees the white man - as a sorta "mini god"! We have this mentally which I see as wayyyyyyyy backwards - the mentality of not being good enough or not nearly as good as the "white man". It can be seen everyday in Nigeria.

Walk into any establishment (offices, schools, even churches!) in YOUR country and u'r treated like u'r not important. And just maybe u aren't. Fine. The annoying part is how these same fellow Nigerians treat people with a different skin colour differently, like they deserve better! Even in our own country! U go to their countries and u'r treated like trash. Fine. Na u carry your leg go there. What I see as intolerable is when that same thing happens in my domain. I could go on and on about this and be able to write a 1 million page book!
I'm glad there is some form of opposition to this "idea" because like some senators rightly said, it WILL lead to racial discrimination and land wahala which I'm sure we had pots full of in the colonial era!

And no, I'm not forgetting the positive effects it might have on our economy, I'm only wondering why it didnt work wonders for the wrecked Zimbabwean economy! Imagine Zimbabwe being considered as "foreign", Oh puhleese!



(^_^)  You are so real.  Such a breath of fresh air here. 
anton (m)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #7 on: July 07, 2006, 03:54 AM »

Quote from: henryphyol on July 06, 2006, 04:49 PM
I am from Ifelodun in Kwara state the government is just blowing itś trumphet there is wide spread poverty in the state the people are not empowered because they see empowerment as a threat to them they classified Kwara as a northern state the muslims can complain because there have islamised the state and any talk against the leaders means a talk against their religion well the generation that will retore kwara to itś proper place has been born my parent may have been quite but i would not!!! Out of the 12 states created the same time Kwara is the least developed!!!

Henry,

Are there any plans that you know of to create some programs so the students in the nearby university and polytech can take adavantage of the Rhodisian's, i mean zimbabwean's, "experience" and knowlge?

I am very interested to learn that,
yeepa (m)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #8 on: July 07, 2006, 02:52 PM »

I am from Ifelodun in Kwara state the government is just blowing itś trumphet there is wide spread poverty in the state the people are not empowered because they see empowerment as a threat to them they classified Kwara as a northern state the muslims can complain because there have islamised the state and any talk against the leaders means a talk against their religion well the generation that will retore kwara to itś proper place has been born my parent may have been quite but i would not!!! Out of the 12 states created the same time Kwara is the least developed!!!

,

@ henryphyol

It appears to me as if you don't really know what you are talking about as the Governor's wife, two ministers , some commisioners and several other people are christians so who are the leaders you were referring to. If you haven't got anything to say/type, it's better you just read on.
anton (m)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #9 on: July 09, 2006, 01:23 AM »

Quote from: yeepa on July 07, 2006, 02:52 PM
I am from Ifelodun in Kwara state the government is just blowing itś trumphet there is wide spread poverty in the state the people are not empowered because they see empowerment as a threat to them they classified Kwara as a northern state the muslims can complain because there have islamised the state and any talk against the leaders means a talk against their religion well the generation that will retore kwara to itś proper place has been born my parent may have been quite but i would not!!! Out of the 12 states created the same time Kwara is the least developed!!!

,

@ henryphyol

It appears to me as if you don't really know what you are talking about as the Governor's wife, two ministers , some commisioners and several other people are christians so who are the leaders you were referring to. If you haven't got anything to say/type, it's better you just read on.

Yeepa,

What do you know about the project?  Are there any plans for the students at the local uni and polytech to benefit from the experience being imported?
Jide_dapo (m)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #10 on: July 12, 2006, 08:03 PM »

Am from Kwara state my self but in all my years on Earth av never considerd the state a serious minded one, it is nothin but a fallacy!
bentobox (m)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #11 on: July 29, 2006, 08:39 PM »

As a foreign guest who has some experience of agriculture in Africa ,  why are respondents so pessimistic? I worked on a successful sugar project in Kenya where 9000 agricultural workers were registered for agricultural employment; there were 220 managerial and supervisory staff; the estate provided 60% of Kenya's domestic sugar requirement. How does this compare with the sugar industry of Kwara? Incidentally, there were 4 resident expatriates or 'white farmers' for those who prefer the label.

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yeepa (m)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #12 on: August 15, 2006, 01:54 PM »

@ anton

I also read about the projects online (Kwara State website) as I am not in Nigeria at the moment and my assesment is that, the project is moving and I also saw some pictures of some students learning from the expatriate farmers.

@jide_dapo

Can you read your response to this topic again? You don't sound like a serious minded person yourself. I believe if you things are not done properly by the elders, you think about better ways to do it. So I challenge, what do you think can be done to help Kwara. Your response will be appreciated.
henryphyol (m)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #13 on: August 22, 2006, 07:48 PM »

@ Yeepa
It appears to me as if you don't really know what you are talking about as the Governor's wife, two ministers , some commisioners and several other people are christians so who are the leaders you were referring to. If you haven't got anything to say/type, it's better you just read on.

It beats me that you seem to pick on the islamised issue without addressing the issue of the state being the most underdeveloped in her ranks. Yeepa i am from that state and it pains me that we are being robbed of our heritage because of certain individuals. We are the largest ethnic group in the state Igbominas yet we are discrimanted against,  Saraki's son is the governor and the daughter is in the NA??? So the state is a family affair abi??? Well like i said earlier the generation that will restore Kwara as one of the yoruba states and to her proper position has been born,  Watch out,
popey (m)
Re: Kwara Agricultural Project
« #14 on: March 25, 2007, 05:47 AM »

This issue is very important to a lot kwarans who take pride in the development of kwara state.
Can anyone tell me , since the project began , have we seen result?, have we benefited in anyway yet?,
aren't we kwarans intelligent enough to develop our own land?.My opinion is let us the generation that can
make some kind of change begin to do something right now.our leaders will do what they see fit,wether we
object to it or not ,we need to begin to cultivate our minds to come up with new ideas and new innovations.
We can lament and complain all day about what is not being done and what our leaders are not doing but if we don't
get up and let our voices be heard and actions be known by having something to offer we are going to talk about this topic for a very long time.Our governor meant good but the approach was wrong.It should be to train kwara state
farmers to do what the white men kicked out of Zimbabwe are in kwara to do , educate them to use heavy machinery,teach them about the use of fertilizer. Kwarans are often looked down upon when it comes to education ,but
we are intelligent enough to know that kwara state agricultural sector can feed the whole of Nigeria .

      I am a Karen in Diaspora who prides in seeing the state of kwara put on the map again.I want to see the state of kwara known for its unity and development in every sector.We do not need to give away our land , intelligence and our pride to foreigners because they are capitalizing on us like crazy.We need a new way of doing things, i am doing something about this myself guys ,i am coming home to do my part , i will start what will result to a change or make a change.
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