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toshmann (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #160 on: August 20, 2006, 03:59 PM »

Quote from: Drusilla on August 20, 2006, 10:05 AM
Remember in rwanda I told you about whites ARMING and FUNDING the RFP in a neighboring country, to go to war against Rwanda? That was in 1994, the same year as the genocide.

so the white men armed the RFP and forced them to fight eh? did white people force the blacks to fight? these are people who already have hatred amongst themselves. if two brothers hate themselves and their father's enemy comes to their home and gives them a knive to fight will you exonerate the brothers who hated themselves in the 1st instance? their fathers, enemy is already an enemy. what did u expect him to do? evil. so we blacks should know that hte white man does not like us, and i think we should be wise enough not to allow them spread seeds of discord in our midst. period.

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So whites interfering in Rwanda in 1994 and getting well deserved blame for intereference historically and presently in Rwanda, is distorted by you to be something far in the past.[/ quote]
all i say is that the white propaganda and/or interference is no excuse for african people to hate each other. you seem to change the issue here. hutus hated tutsis and vice versa. that is wrong and there is no justification for that violence. white man or no white man.
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Africa is 100 percent economically dominated by outsiders: RIGHT NOW IN 2006.
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who's fault?

It isn't about the guns that Africans buy, in 2006, it is about the fact that they buy them, so they can get control of the country, so that they can be the one who recieves cash and goods from whites in 2006.
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i dont get you
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Americans and Europeans being kidnapped in Nigeria, are not being kidnapped because of history but because they control the resources of Nigeria right nowin 2006.
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because the fools we call our leaders allow them to control our economy
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Nigerians importing food and not growing their own on arable land that is not planted now in 2006, is not due to some historical need of Nigerian culture to be dependent on whites to feed them. It is because of white control of their economy.
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no, it is due to absolute foolishness, loss of our own values and lack of initiative on the part of the leadership and followership of a decaying country.
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Nigerians having a lopsided economy that sells oil to whites but can not keep their own people supplied with electricity is not due to some cultural need to have nothing for themselves but because the Nigerian economy is geared towards what whites need and not what Nigerians need, right now in 2006.
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the bible says because of ignorance my people perish. the idiots we have as leaders have refused to build refineries and have been importing fuel for an oil rich country. our leaders will rather steal £50 million  and keep the money in HSBC than build a road that will cost 2 million naira. which can help the economy. i think you should ask-why haven't our people been given 24hrs electricity supply? remember, ghana has great power supply. and we are supposed to be richer than ghana. the problem here aint the white man but our leaders(or looters)
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I know it is painful but you must stop trying to avoid the fact that whites control Africa economically and thus politically and militarily and culturally in 2006, the same as they did in 1956.
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i'm not trying to avoid that fact but all i'm saying is what are our leaders doing about it? why are they quiet? don't they have mouths? we should get our acts together b4 blaming the whites who we all know don't like us. and BTW, how does this come into this thread about racism among non white races?

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Forget history and deal with what whites are doing now in Africa.
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we need to know where we are coming from to understand where we are heading to and where we should be heading to.

peace.  Cool
toshmann
Drusilla (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #161 on: August 21, 2006, 07:27 AM »

toshman,

I asked you before if what you are suggesting for Africa is a Spiritual or Religious program to get rid of the evil in Africans hearts.

Because once again, I bring up the present day facts involving trade, weapons and politics of Rwanda and you suggest all that should be ignored and the focus instead should be on the hatred in the hearts of Rwandans.

If you are pushing a Spiritual or Religious program for Africa, that is your choice but you need to be honest about that.

And stop acting as if the emotional statements you make about 'hatred in ones heart' can in any useful way be applied to a debate about whether Africans can all be guilty of systematic, institutional, racism.

Obviously, systems and institutions do not respond to emotions.

Reverend Martin Luther King's point again: A law may not make you love me but it can stop you from lynching me and I think that is pretty good.

No African in this world has the power to be guilty of systematic, institutionalized racism against whites.

Whether Africans are capable of all the emotions given to man, is a non-sequitor or in simpler terms: a useless discussion. We all know they can, so why even debate it? If they can or can't, it makes no difference to any discussion about Racism.
toshmann (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #162 on: August 21, 2006, 06:36 PM »

oh drusilla again Lips sealed. not again  Shocked anyway, let's do it.

1. i'm not suggesting a religious prgramme for africa. all i'm saying is that there should be a change of attitude
toshmann (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #163 on: August 21, 2006, 06:52 PM »

this change of attitude will go along way to help us. because of this hatred many people breed evil in their hearts unwittingly. this hatred of racism is behind the present day terrorism from the arab world. (remember the thread is not about blacks or africans but about racism involving all races) hatred of the west by the arab world bred terrorism as we know it today.

2. i did not say we should ignore the weapons trade in rwanda etc all i said is that it is not enough reason to hate one another. on the contrary it is that hatred btw the tutsis and hutus that made the weapons trade to thrive. innit?

3. I did not single africans out to be habouring racism, all i said is that people of all races have amongst them few individuals who I can call racists based on my definition as presence of hatred for another for no other reason other than the fact that the other person is of another race. it is not an institutionalised thing like the whites had against us but more of individualised thing.
4. my argument is necessary in our contemporary society because it is a message of peace. hey, if we have less hate in the world today do you know the outcome? think about it.
5. when i say we are all guilty i actually meant that in every race there some individuals who have racist tendencies. and pleas drusilla racism is not a white and black issue. it includes the asians, the jews, the chinese, the arabs etc please it is not just whites and us. some asians are racist towards the blacks .hope u know?japanese dont trust chinese etc. it aint just whites and blacks. please.
superman (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #164 on: August 21, 2006, 10:57 PM »

na lie white people got inherented evil gene from their ancestors! god knows
Ìbùkún (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #165 on: August 21, 2006, 11:09 PM »

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and pleas drusilla racism is not a white and black issue. it includes the asians, the jews, the chinese, the arabs etc please it is not just whites and us
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Thanks a lot toshmann for pointing that out. Racism does in fact truly not affect only blacks and whites. I am an oriental girl myself and living in Germany and my whole life long I`ve been faced with racism. No matter if its in school, at job, in everyday life or whatever. On the other hand, I do also see a lot of my people who are referring to the Germans in a kinda racist way and I feel just so sad about it. Why are people all over the world not able to respect each other, no matter where they come from!?!
Drusilla (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #166 on: August 22, 2006, 04:52 PM »

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this hatred of racism is behind the present day terrorism from the arab world. (remember the thread is not about blacks or africans but about racism involving all races) hatred of the west by the arab world bred terrorism as we know it today.

toshman, toshman, toshman,

There you go again. You claim the bible sometimes.

Which makes me wonder, why you do not actually believe the bible?

The bible says that the love of money is the root of all evil.

If you consider terrorism to be evil, then you should be the first to admit that there is something about money that is the root of the evil terrorist.

And of course the whole world knows that there is something to do with money at the root of terrorism.

Oil riches.

The idea that Arabs are just animals filled with insane hatred of whites for no practical reason, isn't biblical nor is it logical or fair.

It is just more or less an indication of the fact that you actually buy into the soundbites that the Elite put in the world for the mass's whom they consider stupid.

Come now.  Smiley
toshmann (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #167 on: August 22, 2006, 11:13 PM »

drusilla my sister,

i don't buy the 'soundbites of the elites'  Cheesy but i do believe the arab disdain for the west is largely due to the western policy towards the middle east. the 'islamic fascists' aint finding it funny.

and money itself is not evil, but as the bible says, which you quoted quite rightly, it is the love of money that is evil.

thanx drusilla Cool
mrmayor (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #168 on: August 23, 2006, 12:24 AM »

Drusilla,

Quote from: Drusilla on August 22, 2006, 04:52 PM
The idea that Arabs are just animals filled with insane hatred of whites for no practical reason, isn't biblical nor is it logical or fair.
Is this possible,that I agree with My Love Drusilla a 100% on this one! Cheesy Cheesy There is a God afterall.

The idea that the whole world/Arabs just hate the West/America just for their life style is a lie that has being repeated so many times that almost everyone believes it.Its really about Oil dollar.
Drusilla,you were right the West has imposed leaders developing countries especially in Africa and the Middle East and at the same time calling all those who oppose these leaders as rebels and terrorist.The is no doubt that the west control third world leaders who in turn have their people on a leash.


Ìbùkún (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #169 on: August 23, 2006, 12:38 PM »

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And of course the whole world knows that there is something to do with money at the root of terrorism.
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In my opinion, the root of terrorism is just another example of racism. (Money is only another reason for Terrorists to continue their war against the Western World) Terrorists are blind and blood-thirsty people who have the primitive belief that Allah is the only God that exists and the whole world must share their belief. And whoever does not, must die. That shows that there`s racism behind the terrorism. But if we blame all the Muslims now for what their fellow believers are doing then there we go again with the title of this thread WE ARE ALL GUILTY. Really, although I respect all religions, races and cultures because I know that is what God wants me to do and because I know that every religion, race and culture is worth respecting, but I have a kind of problem with the Islam because in the Koran it is written that if a Muslim shakes the hand of a non-Muslim like a Jew, Christian etc. that person must be killed because he shook the hand of a "dirty person". The holy book of any religion is supposed to contain words of GOD but come on abeg, which GOD would say those evil things???
Ìbùkún (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #170 on: August 23, 2006, 12:40 PM »

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And of course the whole world knows that there is something to do with money at the root of terrorism.
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In my opinion, the root of terrorism is just another example of racism. (Money is only another reason for Terrorists to continue their war against the Western World) Terrorists are blind and blood-thirsty people who have the primitive belief that Allah is the only God that exists and the whole world must share their belief. And whoever does not, must die. That shows that there`s racism behind the terrorism. But if we blame all the Muslims now for what their fellow believers are doing then there we go again with the title of this thread WE ARE ALL GUILTY. Really, although I respect all religions, races and cultures because I know that is what God wants me to do and because I know that every religion, race and culture is worth respecting, but I have a kinda problem with the Islam because in the Koran it is written that if a Muslim shakes the hand of a non-Muslim like a Jew, Christian etc. that person must be killed because he shook the hand of a "dirty person". The holy book of any religion is supposed to contain words of GOD but come on abeg, which GOD would say those evil things???
Drusilla (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #171 on: August 23, 2006, 06:55 PM »

Mrmayor,

Cheesy  Wink

All one has to do is look at Taylor, Mugabe, Marcos of the phillipines, Osama Bin Laden, and Saddem Hussein and many more.

When their on their leash, it does not matter how ruthless they treat their own people.

The minute they do not obey the West.

Suddenly, their crimes against their own people are brought forth and they are hunted down like dogs and blamed for everything under the sun.

In America, one has lost count of how many South & Central American dictators were allowed to rule and then brought to America to face trial after they tried like a fool to stop doing what was dictated to them.

I remember when Savimbi died in Angola. The people who were estatic with joy at this horrible man's death, shouted over and over:

Savimbi was OUR OSAMA BIN LADEN!!!

Of course America did not carry this story in their Media because somebody might ask questions about why America supported Savimbi for decades, if he was such a ruthless murderer and terrorist to his own Angolan people.

America gets to look like the descending angel who just steps in to get rid of the dictator. The people having no idea that not only was America responsible for that African dictator but America is more than likely responsible for the next dictator and are just getting rid of the dictator who has gotten off his leash.

The West installs one third world leader and when it is clear that he is going to be of no use to the West, the West begins to arm the next third world leader.

The policy is called "leveling the playing field".

The West controls the current dictator and the next dictator and then we sit around complaining that we don't understand why all our leaders ALWAYS turn out to be as corrupt as the last one.

Again, stop the drops of water from being wasted on the ocean and we can build our own rivers of life in Africa.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #172 on: August 23, 2006, 07:07 PM »

toshman,

Please go to any biblical search engine and put in the words:

Their blood is on their own head.

Search the old testament.

Tell me what you think of the biblical idea that some people do such horrible things that God does not hold their being punished by their victims against them.

Don't get any ideas about what you think, I see these biblical ideas as meaning. Just tell me what you think.
toshmann (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #173 on: August 23, 2006, 08:10 PM »

drusilla the God I worship is a God of forgiveness.

believe me.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #174 on: August 24, 2006, 05:32 AM »

toshman,

I worship the God of the Bible.

Enough said.
Maat
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #175 on: August 24, 2006, 05:36 AM »

@ To All


The only thing black people are guilty of is being the white mans victim.
Maat
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #176 on: August 24, 2006, 05:38 AM »

@ drusilla

Are your email addresses up to date? because I emailed you and got a return on the email I sent to you.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #177 on: August 24, 2006, 07:09 AM »

Ma'at,

I have just gotten into the account and it seems to be working fine. Send again. Not sure about the problems some find with sending email through AOL or if that might be the problem.
2Legit
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #178 on: January 23, 2007, 10:15 PM »

Yes. Most humans are guilty of it, irrespective of colour or creed.

It's worse when you do it against your own people because you need acceptance from the other side.
paddy_lo (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #179 on: January 23, 2007, 10:41 PM »

@Dustbinman
and keep licking davidylans balls,sucking TOH and Euphorias ass. . . . .hope you wash your mouth out with soap though i heard those places stink. . .right from the source i might add. . .
Donzman (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #180 on: January 23, 2007, 10:44 PM »

Quote from: paddy_lo on January 23, 2007, 10:41 PM
@Dustbinman
and keep licking davidylans balls,sucking TOH and Euphorias ass. . . . .hope you wash your mouth out with soap though i heard those places stink. . .right from the source i might add. . .


Did your pops use your brain for blood money?. . .You're not even smart enough to post your reply in the right topic.
paddy_lo (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #181 on: January 23, 2007, 10:48 PM »

@Dustbinman
Go post it there lets see. . .and please keep this between me and you. . i already told you that if you were anywhere next to me,you would have been regretting a lot of things you have said by now
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #182 on: January 23, 2007, 10:52 PM »

what is wrong with this paddy fag?

Dude cant you go anywhere without mentioning me?

I never even responded to this dumb thread yet you still found a way to bring me up in it. Opolo oshi.
mamaput (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #183 on: January 23, 2007, 10:52 PM »

Yes everyone of us have a race they hate even if its their own race.
If i tell my  kids place do not marry Indian thats because i do not like them.
If i tell my children not to marry from a culture they do not understand thats because i want them to avoid problems in marrage.
We all hate some thing be it race religion , colour . or social class
paddy_lo (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #184 on: January 23, 2007, 10:54 PM »

@TOH
well i responded here cause your village boy boyfriend has locked the other thread. . .i mean why do you lock a thread if its about racism,as if you dont know it gets everybody heated
Ugwumba (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #185 on: January 23, 2007, 10:54 PM »

*have read most of this and it leaves an unpleasant taste*

i'll watch from the sidelines.  Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

hey, mamaput, Donzmann, TOH, Eurph, Lady T, Sista(?) - how're y'all doing?
mamaput (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #186 on: January 23, 2007, 10:56 PM »

he locked it because of the insults.
Thats why. and he will soon lock this one if insults do not stop.
debosky (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #187 on: January 23, 2007, 10:56 PM »

yawn!

papillo the  threat maker, Donz and TOH ignore the dude jare!

back to topic,


to some extent we are guilty, thats why i'm particularly interested in the show on CNN 'Intolerance in America', very enlightening and revealing
LadyT (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #188 on: January 23, 2007, 10:58 PM »

Paddy lo you said on another thread certain people lacked social skills or manners something like that.  Yet you cant stop yourself from throwing insults.

paddy_lo (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #189 on: January 23, 2007, 10:58 PM »

@Mamaput
but you know the people that have been dishing insults. . .i have been very civil on these threads,if i disagree with you,i dont insult your dad,or call you cunt or whatever. . .its funny that people that claim they are smart always have to use insults to cover up their defficiencies
paddy_lo (m)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #190 on: January 23, 2007, 11:02 PM »

@Lady T
please say what insults. . .i mean donzman,just insulted my dad for no reason,he then insinuated that because i agree with nkem,i am kissing her ass. . .so i told him to kiss the peoples ass he agrees with,and by the way those people said their asses stink. . .so whats the deal
as for seun. . .i am just tired of him locking threads. . .this is a racism area for a reason,and everyone is an adult.
mamaput (f)
Re: Racism: We Are All Guilty
« #191 on: January 23, 2007, 11:02 PM »

paddy_lo  I know  you have not insulted me .
Lets not put blame on anyone
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