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j-girl (f)
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True - a thief is a thief but things have levels. One that can tolerate other races is still cool but those that simply can't shut up about it or have to do something to end other races are just evil - pure evil
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bluenubian (f)
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point taken, j girl
but the point is that we are all guilty to some extent, cause we are human. only in a perfect world will racism not exist. and we are yet to get there
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Seun (m)
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Exactly, so let's stop complaining and adopt progressive pragmatism.
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j-girl (f)
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Yeah we are all guilty no doubt. Our environments and nature makes it so. The day when racism ends will be the day when we are all from the same country and of the same colour because those are the main criteria for racism. Americans and Canadians have the same colour but i have heard an American say she can't stand canadians just because of the way they talk. All we can do is to supress the importance of racism and it won't be as extreme anymore
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toshmann (m)
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racism may not end if we are all of one race. if u come to nigeria, ibos say the hausa are not good,
if u come to iboland, they say ibos from so so and so state are not good,
if u come to imo state, they say people from this local govt are terrible,
even in my village ,u hear stories of-hey beware of people from that family- creating bias left,right andcentre
here in wales, i have white friends, in order to remain friends, we are very careful with each other, the kind of free jokes i crack with my black brothers i can't do it with the whites, we are friends but we are not close,b/c we are afraid we may hurt each other, reason-racism has made us scared of each other. nice people can't come together to be nice to the bottom.
wow!!!!!!!!!
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chinani (f)
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We are All Guilty of Racism When the French & Germans fought the Prussian War or during the Hundred Years' War or the Czechs vs. Slav(icia) or when white men ran around raping Asiatic/"Eastern" women & called it the Crusades those were "wars" but our own is "tribalism". Chei! When have a group of black police officers sodomized white immigrants in the land of the free, home of the brave? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima We are Not All Guilty of Racism at least not to the same extent Please if you want to share something, do not share the blame abi. And we are not all equally guilty so please stop.
NINETOFIVE, my brother thank you for talking sense! Some people just want to hate themselves always talking about "tribalism" among Nigerians/Africans. We cannot even teach them not to say "tribalism". ***rolls eyes***Am & am no tire ooo! |
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toshmann (m)
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chinani,
it depends on what u call racism. racism is not about white and blacks, it is about any race vs another race, it is when one suffers injustice just because of his race.--just because of his race- and that,my sister, is also happening in our society. we do it to ourselves.black vs black, hausa vs ibo, somali vs somali, hutu vs tutsi, efik vs ibibio, umuleri vs aguleri, ife vs modakeke, hausa muslim vs kaje/zangon-kataf, ijaw vs itsekiri etc
u may call it tribal war, but my dear, it is a situation where one may loose his life just because he comes from a particular tribe(or race) and that to me is plain racism. sure the extent is very much different from that we and our ancestors recieved at the hands of the white man, but it is still racism.
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bluenubian (f)
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point well said
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superman (m)
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hey hey hey to stand here at 21st century and open your fufu mouth to say we are all gulity of racism from far back as 1839 to present is a slap in the face to all the panters and activits etc and me as a soldier! na wahoooo ! this is best joke of 21st century
well i think there is a problem here!! with regards with what they see as racist! at least we all know racism is evil and deadly!
we arent complaining but rather eduacting the ones that think they know but they dnt!
racism we are not all gulity! kiss it leave it! its unique to all the evils your slave master did as much u pretend then i think i will be left with no choice to prrof my point! maybe racism might be categorise if yal tryin to be clever now! like malco x said history has autorised me to call white men evil! dnt get me started "toshmann" our black has suffered enough brainwashing dnt need more from u and blacknubian that think she is clever! ha watch her oh i can't go in that resturant there are too much wite people in here! hmmm racism so justifed by u! could it be by product of evil committed by your slavemaster!
superman
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iice (f)
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Na wow oh, If u like deny am till judgement day, we are all guilty of it, as jgirl talk, levels dey to am, even if u no say am but u think am, u still dey do am, its not only about color, u have traits, u have capabilities, its not only about whites, abeg somebody don alrdy post like between african nations, between tribes,
@blue, if fit be true wetin u talk, say dey no wan listen because na woman u be,
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toshmann (m)
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@ all,
racism=discrimination against or antagonism towards other races or ethnic groups based on such a belief ( belief that each race, or ethnic group possesses specific characteristics, abilities or qualities that distiguish it as superior (or inferior) to another such group.
-new concise oxford english dictionary (the world's most trusted dictionary)
11th edition 2004
now, back to my argument, what happened in rwanda? hutus killed the tutsis. they called the tutsies cockroaches and got them killed. they called themselves hutu power. based on the above definition of racism, what do we say about the hutu/tutsi crisis in rwanda?
if this isn't racism, then someone needs to tell me what it is.
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superman (m)
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quoted by Toshman
-new concise oxford english dictionary (the world's most trusted dictionary)
11th edition 2004
and the dictionary is wirtten by your slave master! its goes like this
black list
black market
black eye
black economy
black day
black reno- very aggressive take note
black shark de same goes
haa yea yea white blood cell hmmmm
oh well, nothing
half cast mixed race hmmmm make dey carry time over there
oh rwanda now ok! but how u sure the west hasnt got their hands on it! have u heard about FBI be4! or u wana talk about somialia now! or u wana talk about how bin laden was used to excute peopel ! i guess the table just took a tumble!
we all are not gulity i think some poeple are! maybe jewish people might be in a better position to answer your question! so if some people here think we are then i must say they are the ones that are gulity! even their stupid post here can justified it!
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toshmann (m)
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my dear superman, there can never be any excuse for the atrocities commited in rwanda by africans against africans, or the horrors of idi amin, or the tribal violence in northern and eastern nigeria.
u say the west has got their hands on the rwandan crisis, did the white man do the shooting? the maiming?the matchetting of blacks in rwanda? we must accept where we err. if not we can't improve.
have u lost a loved one from any of the ethnic crises in nigeria? if u have u will understand that it is horribble. and it is racism. the white man did evil. i'm not contesting that. we all know it. all i am saying is that when it comes to racism, nobody,no racial group, is completely exonerated. the extent of guilt may differ,
but guilty we all are.
and by the way, who did u expect to write the english dictionary? our traditional ruler? 
easy brother, we are part of this guilt. i have suffered racial abuse from---- ----black british.
yet to get "hit" by a white man. |
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kellorah (f)
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gulity or not guilty? NOT GUILTY!
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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To CHinani
NINETOFIVE, my brother thank you for talking sense! Some people just want to hate themselves always talking about "tribalism" among Nigerians/Africans. We cannot even teach them not to say "tribalism". ***rolls eyes***
Am & am no tire ooo!
Thanks for your post, at least I can be able to know there are still some few people with brain, and can feel peoples problem, you 've given me reason to continue to share my knowledge with people, I know that I can not convince everybody, but if it is one heart am able to touch is enough for me, a word is enough for a wise. thank you very much sister. To bluenubian and people like her Racism is when people hate people of other race because of the colour of there skin, the shape of there nose, the colour of there eyes or the colour of there hair, the definition that toshman gave is very myopic definition, that kind of definition can only be presented by a short sited fool that lives in the UK, that 've not seen the big picture of racism. Before I forget you said you don't care of what that happened to me, because that kind of thing has never happened to you, it shows how selfish you are, you only think of yourself, well I wish you all the best, but if anything, remember I as a brother I told you, I only gave out this information to let people know, so that what that happened to me would not happen to any body else, but you called it crap, well since you don't care I would have to leave you now. To toshmann
RACISM. WE ARE ALL GUILTY. WE JUST DON'T ADMIT IT. AND I'M BLACK, AFRICAN, SINGLE ,NEVER MARRIED, NO KIDS
FOR THE WHITE LADY THAT HATES WHITES, NO AMOUNT OF SELF HATE CAN MAKE BLACK PEOPLE LIKE You, BETTER LIKE UR PEOPLE, AND AT MOST -ALSO LIKE BLACK PEOPLE, IF You HATE UR PEOPLE, You MAY HAVE NOWHERE TO RUN TO-WHEN THE BUBBLE BURSTS.
If you don't know how to pretend to be black learn harder, black people would never tell somebody go we don't like you because you are white, that's the culture of the whites, don't worry about the white lady I like her already and i am black as you can see, if you are black like you brandish your self on these thread, there is no reason for you to say what you stated above, you are mad because she was saying the truth and she was being particular about the white man, which I know you are one. These your line above is the same line I read yesterday on RUSSIAN NAZI SITE, so your pretext to be black is no t working, let me educate you once again, what we have in the southern Nigeria is TRIBALISM and what we have in the Northern Nigeria is RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM, stop confusing TRIBALISM with RACISM or with SECTARIANISM get your self some education. The white people are also tribal among themselves but it does not get very extreme. RACISM IS A PITCHED STATE OF HATRED and it has to do, primarily with looks. If you are a black man and you made this assertion or can I call it allegation then is either you have problem with your head or you have problem with English language [ I don't mean to be rude here English is not your language and is not mine either, so who cares ] If you say we are all guilty of tribalism I might agree with you to some extent, and that would be based on if I am a tribalist, but RACISM is very extreme. If you are black stop confusing people, stop putting curse on your head for your arrogance, cause history will judge you, I mean it, it will if you continue, many people has lost there lives because of racism, but I know you will continue because you are a white man. NOTE ____ The OSU LAW has been changed in many parts of IBOLAND including my town. |
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kellorah (f)
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disliking someone is not the same as being racist ooooo. me i am not racist ohhh never have been
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toshmann (m)
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To bluenubian and people like her
Racism is when people hate people of other race because of the colour of there skin, the shape of there nose, the colour of there eyes or the colour of there hair, the definition that toshman gave is very myopic definition, that kind of definition can only be presented by a short sited fool that lives in the UK, that 've not seen the big picture of racism.
u call yourself a brother yet u use such descriptions for your brother. whyrefer to me as a short sighted fool living in the UK? i don't hate u, we are only arguing. u don't even know me and yet u are using such words that indicate hatred. every word u've said on this thread shows that u hate white people and that means u are also racist. that alone proves me right. do you know that? but why the vehemence in your language against me? why personalise this argument. we are only exchanging ideas. i understand how u feel about whites, i don't admire them either, but be civilised. even nelson mandela at the bottom of racial hatred was able to say he is not against whites but against white supremacy. that way he showed them he is more civilised than them. if a thief steals your money and u retaliate by stealing his money what do you think u've done? brother u have jus succeeded in being a thief. by the way, talking about the rwandan crisis, the major difference between the tutsis and the hutus was that the tutsis were of a lighter skin and were more slender, and had pointed nose. does it sound like your own description of racism. racism is racism no matter the extent, just like a thief is a thief no matter the amt of money he stole. if i go to school tommorow and i have to sit at the back b/c i'm black it is racism, if i'm attacked b/c of my color, it is also racism. before we continue this argument, brother, take a deep breadth, relax, we aint fighting, we are only arguing and we are not enemies. we are brothers,okay?  |
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superman (m)
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no mind the fool! who do u think u are tellin all those crab! all the evil your grand did! in south africa and $ hit that im gulity of !! make una carry time, this no dey funi like i said maybe he shuld try to argue his way on jewsish forum ! lets see how that go down. comparing racism with tribalism na wah oo! the same white fool that santion any supicious money in the westeren bank through the arabs with the alert "section 1441" while he kept blind eyes to all the billions sphone by some black zombies and fools with their white collaborator from africa to europe! who una dey fool!for eg lets look at zimbawae even as a black man u cannt own land in your own country! now that is just to show u i think there difference b?t tribalism and racism!
so we can see why people like IAH most of the time look or sound confused! very obvious
no time for politics or ghana must go attitude no time!
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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To toshman Refrace your tittle to this; WE ARE GUILTY OF TRIBALISM BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE GUILTY OF RACISM quoted by Toshman
-new concise oxford english dictionary (the world's most trusted dictionary)
11th edition 2004
and the dictionary is wirtten by your slave master! its goes like this
black list
black market
black eye
black economy
black day
black reno- very aggressive take note
black shark de same goes
haa yea yea white blood cell hmmmm
oh well, nothing
half cast mixed race hmmmm make dey carry time over there
oh rwanda now ok! but how u sure the west hasnt got their hands on it! have u heard about FBI be4! or u wana talk about somialia now! or u wana talk about how bin laden was used to excute peopel ! i guess the table just took a tumble!
we all are not gulity i think some poeple are! maybe jewish people might be in a better position to answer your question! so if some people here think we are then i must say they are the ones that are gulity! even their stupid post here can justified it!
Super man is not trying to tell you who wrote English dictionary but he is trying to tell you how racist white people are, every thing they do has racist undertone my dear superman, there can never be any excuse for the atrocities commited in rwanda by africans against africans, or the horrors of idi amin, or the tribal violence in northern and eastern nigeria.
u say the west has got their hands on the rwandan crisis, did the white man do the shooting? the maiming?the matchetting of blacks in rwanda? we must accept where we err. if not we can't improve.
have u lost a loved one from any of the ethnic crises in nigeria? if u have u will understand that it is horribble. and it is racism. the white man did evil. i'm not contesting that. we all know it. all i am saying is that when it comes to racism, nobody,no racial group, is completely exonerated. the extent of guilt may differ,
but guilty we all are.
and by the way, who did u expect to write the english dictionary? our traditional ruler?
easy brother, we are part of this guilt. i have suffered racial abuse from---- ----black british.
yet to get "hit" by a white man. If you take note of my earlier post I made mention of black British, I said in my post that they are the most pathetic set of black people on earth, If your are really black, one day you will leave them and go back to Africa and they would stay in Britain and kiss white people asses, I ve hard these same problem with a black British woman who was shouting on me, I told her that a white British person will not do what she was doing to me [ note: the white British will not do it only because of the law, and black British tend to be freer in there dealings with other blacks because it wouldn't be about racism but about ignorance ] and she felt sorry, and said am sorry bro. you know am an African and we Africans talk loud. I must be honest that in Britain a lot of white people are good because they are used to being good to blacks because of the law, If you use them to judge other white people, you will be making a great mistake. |
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toshmann (m)
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@ superman and 9-2-5,
i am black, nigerian, ibo, lived in nigeria all my life except the last 10months. proudly african, a lover of africa and africanism. ibo parents, ibo ancestors etc
but the words u use here are so bad. u call me fool. because i air my view. well, i can't respond to that. but judge yourself, how saintly u are.
yet u can't change the truth. and the truth must be said someday. and the truth is,
no race or ethnic group can claim to be innocent of the great transgression called racism. period
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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To toshman
I am really really sorry from my heart brother, I only wanted to push you to the extreme to find out If you are really black, now I have no doubt you are my brother, because I know If you are black those words will touch you, I cast those words I said away. Am not a racist but I hate white guys they nearly killed me.
I was angry about what you said to that white lady on these thread, you don't know If she is married to a black guy that's been attacked by white men, you don't know If she has a mixed race child, you must agree that before she made those very powerful comments she must have be committed to black people one way or the other, by telling her what you said, you looked wicked and racist, but NWA NNA BIKO am very sorry
Let me know if you take me apology, Nwane you are new in europe, don't make up your mind about white peole, EBIGOM EUROPE KARIA 10 YEARS I know what am saying.
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superman (m)
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quoted by toshman
am black, nigerian, ibo, lived in nigeria all my life except the last 10months. proudly african, a lover of africa and africanism. ibo parents, ibo ancestors etc
so in the last 10 months your eyes don shine well well like this! na wahoooo
oh well god bless Nigerians we are not gulity !full stopppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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toshmann (m)
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i don't have to live in south africa to know what apathied is
i don't have to be born in 1930 to know what the 2nd world war was like
i don't have to live in new york to appreciate 911
i don't have to be in the middle east to know what insecurity is
i don't have to be in the hospital to know that illness is not good
i don't have to be in prison to understand that it is not a good place to stay
get back to the argument, the points i raised are yet to be answered by u
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toshmann (m)
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To toshman
I am really really sorry from my heart brother, I only wanted to push you to the extreme to find out If you are really black, now I have no doubt you are my brother, because I know If you are black those words will touch you, I cast those words I said away. Am not a racist but I hate white guys they nearly killed me.
I was angry about what you said to that white lady on these thread, you don't know If she is married to a black guy that's been attacked by white men, you don't If she has a mixed race child, you must agree that before she made those very powerful commens she must have be committed to black people one way or the other, by telling her what you said, you looked wicked and racist, but NWA NNA BIKO am very sorry
Let me know if you take me apology, Nwane you are new in europe, don't make up your mind about white peole, EBIGOM EUROPE KARIA 10 YEARS I know what am saying.
the forgiveness is there even before it was asked for. if u read my threads u'll know i refused to be bitter. i know(or at least can guess)how u guys feel about white people. i don't admire whites. my friends here in cardiff wonder how, with all my white admires i'm yet to have any of the white girls for a g.friend. i have my problems with whites too, but this thread is not about wether whites are guilty or not. whites are guilty. even the ants on the walls in my room in owerri know that. if we want to write about white racism we will need two libraries to contain the books. i was only saying we are also guilty of some sort. i preach peace. i don't hate whites(but i don't admire them). when u hate people from a particular race u end up hating a few good people who may be of that race. the white woman who hated her own race was like spreading the message of hate. nsogbu adighi at all. iwe anaghi ewe m ma oli. mana, ihe m n'eme bu soso argumenti. anyi agaghi ekwe ogenine ma obughi ihe anyi ga eji n'ewe oke iwe n'akpo onwe anyi aha. odighi nma ma oli. ya ga zie |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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To toshman
You have to understand that a lot of people has a lot of problems in there life, may be that white woman and who ever she is related to has surfered in the hands of the white people [racist], don't only think of winning the argument, think of each post in a way it affects the individual that wrote it, KA CHINEKE MEZIE OKWU NWA NNEM.
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toshmann (m)
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amen  ka chi foo |
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superman (m)
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na lie! who is gulity ! na only you ! well while u went to bed guess what i just wake up! and just have a look at the head lines makin waves 183 people killed in a train bomb in india yes! k lets just assume the perpetuators are terrorist maybe because they are moslem and they dnt like emm fcukin hindu if u like ! would u say they are gulity of the evil and all the american red indian your grand dad killed!
so u see there is a problem here! the people that are advocating for war are people that havent witness any battle! just like they say i aint scared of death, when death come watch am run! make una carry time ooooo ! na u be gulity we are de winner ooooooo!
u are gulity witeman iam the winner maybe innocent emmm maybe yeap
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iice (f)
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rollin ma eyes 
@Toshmann, u don try abeg oh, some no fit see the points wey u dey make, but well done 4 sticking 2 ya guns  , @whoever said 2 blue and people like her, whateva!! because am freaking bored 2 even read what ya said, we might have similar takes on issues but it don't mean we are the samerollin ma eyes, nehow am out of diz thread, its like sooooo 
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baby boy (m)
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we are not all quilty.some blacks are not too friendly towards white because they are exhibiting some kind of defence mechanism towards the potential of discrimination
we might have some preferences for our brothers,that is not racism.
racism is actively discriminating another race.
what we have in nigeria is tribalism and nepotism.
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Rhodalyn (f)
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Cuz black gurlz do not want no monkeyz as their man LOL!!  |
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toshmann (m)
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wrong thread rhoda
nkwasiese
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