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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Im so over Depp
You people need to get with the times
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kadman
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Im so over Depp
You people need to get with the times
True talk right here. . .
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Mad_Max (f)
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Don't tell me make up can make Johnny Depp into that ogre like Dracula. Count Drakul looks way more satirical than that! lol too much hint. All he seems to be about these days are roles weird and dracula. He needs to get away from Burton.
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JeSoul (f)
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Have you been led to this one yet, JS? Na so-so horror film ya own curiosity dey carry you dey go look. Seriously though, what's the attraction? And don't say its the 'story' o, since there's mostly none to speak of. I think the last horror movie I saw was The Ring, but the kid in it irritated me too much for any real scares. How can you endure it? lol . . . seriously, I'm not even sure  I am curious about a lot of things & I love to think - from archeology, to golf, to music, to science. I enjoy fiction (scary or otherwise) a lot cos it enables my mind to run wild and loose and imagine and get some bit of an insight into how other peoples minds work. I loved X-Files so much cos it unleashed my imagination with almost every episode - it was strange, different, unusual, complex, supernatural etc. To put it short - I am a think-freak  if its going to entertain/challenge my brain, count me in! Got the Emily Rose thing on DVD, but the atmosphere in the movie was so terrible I got the blue blazes out of there. lol, well let us know if & when you get around to watching it. Watch it with someone, in the afternoon, with all the doors locked 
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JeSoul (f)
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Btw, you people are talking smack about iice's husband
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Mad_Max (f)
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I'm not watching that creepfest. Archeology? I saw a documentary where archeologists and other experts not only reconstructed village life when Christ lived, they recreated the likely scenarios of his birth and the games he likely played with other kids growing up. I finally understood what the famous manger might actually be, since there were no inns in existence in those times,and travellers depended exclusively on people's hospitality. They even showed how traders selling grain would cheat the scales and rip off the dumb. The political tensionss, religious and cultural norms,etc. Recently watched the discovery, long ago, of one of the most elusive objects in the field; the tomb of an Egyptian child-pharaoh. Found by an Englishman obssessed from his youth with finding it, though the search had been on for centuries with no luck. He stumbled upon it accidentally, while digging for something else. Imagine how he must have felt. They tomb was crammed full of vast treasures in gold, lapis lazuli, ornaments in precious stones, including chariots, all for the king's comfort in his afterlife. Fascinating.I follow archeology, though not as keenly or madly as I follow say,quantum mechanics or cosmology. Any luck finding that 'lost' continent yet? Golf? Count me out.
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JeSoul (f)
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I'm not watching that creepfest. Oh common gurl, don't be sucha wuss  Archeology? I saw a documentary where archeologists and other experts not only reconstructed village life when Christ lived, they recreated the likely scenarios of his birth and the games he likely played with other kids growing up. I finally understood what the famous manger might actually be, since there were no inns in existence in those times,and travellers depended exclusively on people's hospitality. They even showed how traders selling grain would cheat the scales and rip off the dumb. The political tensionss, religious and cultural norms,etc. Recently watched the discovery, long ago, of one of the most elusive objects in the field; the tomb of an Egyptian child-pharaoh. Found by an Englishman obssessed from his youth with finding it, though the search had been on for centuries with no luck. He stumbled upon it accidentally, while digging for something else. Imagine how he must have felt. They tomb was crammed full of vast treasures in gold, lapis lazuli, ornaments in precious stones, including chariots, all for the king's comfort in his afterlife. Fascinating. You're so speaking my language. I live on the history/discovery channel - right after espn, travel and foodnetwork  . There have been all kinds of documentaries on the Life of Jesus and the times, really really fascinating stuff - sometimes misguided opinions paraded as facts - but nevertheless fascinating  . I follow archeology, though not as keenly or madly as I follow say,quantum mechanics or cosmology. Any luck finding that 'lost' continent yet? Nah no luck just yet, but I will keep you posted 
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Mad_Max (f)
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Opinion paraded as fact is right. There was a segement where Judas was being touted as something other than the greedy, lying,back-stabbing ass he was. That the kiss was one of affection or something; He had no idea they were going to kill Christ, he didn't mean for it to go that far,ect. Right. What did he think they were going to do; give him a parking ticket? They sit in their offices, assume a professorial air, and say what was going on in Judas's mind two thousand years ago. Evidence? None. I found the history of the church far more intesting; the power struggles between Mary Madgalene and Peter after the death of their master. How the fact that women led churches in early times was rubbed out by the Roman Catholic church from the bible, and their onw opinions substituted for Holy Writ, how Madgalene was deliberately portrayed as a prostitute when she was no such thing, and held up in counterposition to their Virgin Mary as Saint Madgalene the Penitent. They removed this label in 1969, after centuries of calumny and deceit, but what's the point? If its in the Bible it has to be true; never mind that they tampered with its contents for hundreds of years. If not for Tyndale, we would not have access to even that,as we do now. Scripture was never intended for the masses. For his trouble Tyndale was hunted all over Europe, caught and executed by the 'Church'. I'm reading accounts, right now, of the witch-burning trials conducted by the Inquisition. You will weep. The history of Roman Catholic Church shows it to be the very embodiment of evil and utter darkness in times past, of the worst aspects of human nature wielding manufactured 'divine' authority. I'll never get how adherents aren't embarrassed to be associated with it, but that's childhood religious conditioning for you. Ah well. I'm going on and on. No to Emily Rose. No means No! 
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GEW
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Opinion paraded as fact is right. There was a segement where Judas was being touted as something other than the greedy, lying,back-stabbing ass he was. That the kiss was one of affection or something; He had no idea they were going to kill Christ, he didn't mean for it to go that far,ect. Right. What did he think they were going to do; give him a parking ticket? They sit in their offices, assume a professorial air, and say what was going on in Judas's mind two thousand years ago. Evidence? None. I found the history of the church far more intesting; the power struggles between Mary Madgalene and Peter after the death of their master. How the fact that women led churches in early times was rubbed out by the Roman Catholic church from the bible, and their onw opinions substituted for Holy Writ, how Madgalene was deliberately portrayed as a prostitute when she was no such thing, and held up in counterposition to their Virgin Mary as Saint Madgalene the Penitent. They removed this label in 1969, after centuries of calumny and deceit, but what's the point? If its in the Bible it has to be true; never mind that they tampered with its contents for hundreds of years. [b]If not for Tyndale, we would not have access to even that,as we do now. Scripture was never intended for the masses. For his trouble Tyndale was hunted all over Europe, caught and executed by the 'Church'. [/b] I'm reading accounts, right now, of the witch-burning trials conducted by the Inquisition. You will weep. The history of Roman Catholic Church shows it to be the very embodiment of evil and utter darkness in times past, of the worst aspects of human nature wielding manufactured 'divine' authority. I'll never get how adherents aren't embarrassed to be associated with it, but that's childhood religious conditioning for you. Ah well. I'm going on and on. No to Emily Rose. No means No!  and your point being?
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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so I take it I should be expecting concise Orphan reviews by Monday afternoon?
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JeSoul (f)
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Opinion paraded as fact is right. There was a segement where Judas was being touted as something other than the greedy, lying,back-stabbing ass he was. That the kiss was one of affection or something; He had no idea they were going to kill Christ, he didn't mean for it to go that far,ect. Right. What did he think they were going to do; give him a parking ticket? They sit in their offices, assume a professorial air, and say what was going on in Judas's mind two thousand years ago. Evidence? None. I found the history of the church far more intesting; the power struggles between Mary Madgalene and Peter after the death of their master. lol, I've heard those too . . . I think those 'scholars' should be given awards for some of the conspiracy theories they drum up. Many times I just sit and laugh at how the make these assertions and declare them to be fact - without an ounce of proof or evidence. The bible already told us they are stuck "in the futility in their thinking". I'm reading accounts, right now, of the witch-burning trials conducted by the Inquisition. You will weep. The history of Roman Catholic Church shows it to be the very embodiment of evil and utter darkness in times past, of the worst aspects of human nature wielding manufactured 'divine' authority. I'll never get how adherents aren't embarrassed to be associated with it, but that's childhood religious conditioning for you. Heavy stuff sister. The very dark history of the catholic church is a matter of public record, history does not lie. I don't think most followers know of its history. No to Emily Rose. No means No! Perhaps I can convince you, a Roman Catholic priest is the main 'star' in the movie  GEW, hold your horses now & don't worry we will revert back to movie speak, this isn't the religion section afterall. Max oya back to the regularly scheduled topic before we start katakata 
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Heavy stuff sister. The very dark history of the catholic church is a matter of public record, history does not lie. I don't think most followers know of its history.
we should discuss this sometime
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JeSoul (f)
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so I take it I should be expecting concise Orphan reviews by Monday afternoon?
lol . . . it looks unlikely I'll be able to get to it this weekend. More likely next week. JK did say he was going to see it. we should discuss this sometime
We should and we will. Its just that the religion section is sucha mess its hard to open and control relevant topics.
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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lol . . . it looks unlikely I'll be able to get to it this weekend. More likely next week. JK did say he was going to see it. We should and we will. Its just that the religion section is sucha mess its hard to open and control relevant topics.
JK watches Eddie Murphy/romantic comedy movies, I dont take him seriously. what's wrong with this weekend?  and you're right about the section *sigh* Im very curious though
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JeSoul (f)
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JK watches Eddie Murphy/romantic comedy movies, I dont take him seriously. Lol . . . he will be here to defend himself in a sec what's wrong with this weekend? African festival on saturday which I agreed to 3 months ago and can't unfortunately back out of. I'm not even sure what I'm doing, my stuff is about as African as you find Eddie Murphy funny. A close friend's wedding on Sunday I haven't even bought the gift yetand you're right about the section *sigh* Im very curious though When things get somewhat under control, I'll open a topic & find you and Max.
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Mad_Max (f)
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Oh you know how things get personal in religious threads. Attacking your beliefs is attacking what defines you and no one likes that. Even Catholics and alien life forms like scientologists. I'm steering clear for now. The world's big enough for a billion beliefs. But I hate how supreme evil has long been perpertrated in the name of God. Who needs the devil for evil? Human beings are far more qualified. Perhaps I can convince you, a Roman Catholic priest is the main 'star' in the movie  The dimpled, handsome, cross-waving variety with perfect teeth and hair?
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spikedcylinder
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Hmmmn. . . . I've heard quite some about this Orphan movie. The bad review I read had more to do with the central character's teeth being old and crooked for her age but if that's all I hear, I'd better watch it. Problem is, its not showing here yet and I can't seem to find rapidshare links for it anyway? Who has them?
Meanwhile, Cameron's movie, My Sisters Keeper seems to be generating some early Oscar buzz. I doubt the buzz will last till awards season though.
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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anything with dying kids gets buzz. *rolls eyes at Oscar predictability*
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spikedcylinder
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Opinion paraded as fact is right. There was a segement where Judas was being touted as something other than the greedy, lying,back-stabbing ass he was. That the kiss was one of affection or something; He had no idea they were going to kill Christ, he didn't mean for it to go that far,ect. Right. What did he think they were going to do; give him a parking ticket? They sit in their offices, assume a professorial air, and say what was going on in Judas's mind two thousand years ago. Evidence? None. I found the history of the church far more intesting; the power struggles between Mary Madgalene and Peter after the death of their master. How the fact that women led churches in early times was rubbed out by the Roman Catholic church from the bible, and their onw opinions substituted for Holy Writ, how Madgalene was deliberately portrayed as a prostitute when she was no such thing, and held up in counterposition to their Virgin Mary as Saint Madgalene the Penitent. They removed this label in 1969, after centuries of calumny and deceit, but what's the point? If its in the Bible it has to be true; never mind that they tampered with its contents for hundreds of years. If not for Tyndale, we would not have access to even that,as we do now. Scripture was never intended for the masses. For his trouble Tyndale was hunted all over Europe, caught and executed by the 'Church'.
I'm reading accounts, right now, of the witch-burning trials conducted by the Inquisition. You will weep. The history of Roman Catholic Church shows it to be the very embodiment of evil and utter darkness in times past, of the worst aspects of human nature wielding manufactured 'divine' authority. I'll never get how adherents aren't embarrassed to be associated with it, but that's childhood religious conditioning for you.
This is real interesting Max. . . . . my kindda stuff, not to be discussed on this thread though. I thought you were Roman Catholic? 
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No2Atheism (m)
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lol, I've heard those too . . . I think those 'scholars' should be given awards for some of the conspiracy theories they drum up. Many times I just sit and laugh at how the make these assertions and declare them to be fact - without an ounce of proof or evidence. The bible already told us they are stuck "in the futility in their thinking". Heavy stuff sister. The very dark history of the catholic church is a matter of public record, history does not lie. I don't think most followers know of its history. Perhaps I can convince you, a Roman Catholic priest is the main 'star' in the movie  GEW, hold your horses now & don't worry we will revert back to movie speak, this isn't the religion section afterall. Max oya back to the regularly scheduled topic before we start katakata  @jesoul Now you know part of the reason why i got fed up and left the place (and ended up flirting on romance section  ), infact i am even sometimes scared of discussing with some people over there in the religious section now cus it seems at least one person is starting to show traces of suicidal tendecies. I am stunned that some people on the religious thread would clearly and easily see a bible verse that clearly says something but instead choose to either ignore or start hurling abuses instead of examining the evidences based on its merit. @jesoul sometimes i wonder how i ended up not studying history cus the rate at which i tend to devour historical information sometimes actually affects my study sef, hence imagine how frustrating it is not to be able to have a civil discussion on the religious thread without insults. By the way, how is pilgrim1 she seems to be one of the few thats capable of engaging in discussion without hurling insults or trying to ridicule the opponent.
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No2Atheism (m)
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@jesoul is there any latest sci-fi movies around am starving from lack of battlestar galactica, heroes, and smallville (those were the ones the normal give me the weekly doses of sci-fi). Most of the movies around tend not to interest me cus their is too much hype and i sincerely hate hype (e.g. I am yet to watch Batman Black Knight, Hangover etc and some other movies). Movie hype sometimes become kryptonite to me, Chai  i remember the days wen i would watch xfiles from morning till night,  i have once watching movies till morning even though i was supposed to have an exam the next day,
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Mad_Max (f)
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This is real interesting Max. . . . . my kindda stuff, not to be discussed on this thread though. I thought you were Roman Catholic?  I'm not Catholic. I am a Christian though,and pretty serious about it. Your kinda stuff? How do you mean?
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spikedcylinder
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I'm not Catholic. I am a Christian though,and pretty serious about it. Your kinda stuff? How do you mean?
History of religion, findings, facts, fiction. . . . etc.
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JeSoul (f)
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The dimpled, handsome, cross-waving variety with perfect teeth and hair?
Not quite. More like the old, wrinkled, cross-clinging variety with yellow teeth and receeding hair  @jesoul Now you know part of the reason why i got fed up and left the place (and ended up flirting on romance section ), infact i am even sometimes scared of discussing with some people over there in the religious section now cus it seems at least one person is starting to show traces of suicidal tendecies. I am stunned that some people on the religious thread would clearly and easily see a bible verse that clearly says something but instead choose to either ignore or start hurling abuses instead of examining the evidences based on its merit. See this boy, don't blame your wanton propensity for flirting on horrid state of the religion section  Lol we all know the truth here so no need to pretend, you can take off the choir boy clothes  Couple of us have voiced our complaints about the section but management has refused to pay us any attention so we just siddon jeje. By the way, how is pilgrim1 she seems to be one of the few thats capable of engaging in discussion without hurling insults or trying to ridicule the opponent.
Pilgrim seems to be on hiatus for now. she leaves and reappears and I'm sure she'll be back soon. I like that girl much.
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JeSoul (f)
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@jesoul is there any latest sci-fi movies around am starving from lack of battlestar galactica, heroes, and smallville (those were the ones the normal give me the weekly doses of sci-fi). Not really. The movie "District 9" has been investing in a lot of advertising. I haven't read any reviews but its sci-fi. Most of the movies around tend not to interest me cus their is too much hype and i sincerely hate hype (e.g. I am yet to watch Batman Black Knight, Hangover etc and some other movies). Movie hype sometimes become kryptonite to me  you haven't seen Dark Knight? TOH please discipline this dude. You are hereby commanded to watch DK asap. Infact it wasn't even hyped enough, that movie is solid from a-z.
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JeSoul (f)
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Max, if you beat me to opening a thread in the religion section on this please do let us know 
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Mad_Max (f)
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Really? How come its one of your interests? You're agnostic, right? Or atheist? As for religious history, its all written in blood. And most of these holy books seem to have a thing against women. You find the cultural attitudes and personal opinions of ancient times captured in holy books, and the present is molded to comform to the past. Look at the millions of women subjected to terrible lives under Islamic laws and holy books. The Hindu books commanded widows to be burnt to death over their husband's funeral pyre. The practice ended only relatively recently. And Christianity has a history as disgraceful as any other religion; women burned at the stake for centuries for witchcraft. All it took is for one person to say You're a witch, and your fate is sealed. The witch's property is divided between the accuser and the church. She pays the costs of her trial, feeding and accomodation for her tortureres, she pays for the priests, and pays the executioner's fee. She pays for the rope if she's to be hanged. Children were burned as well. Since its a lucrative business,thousands went into the witchcraft accusation business. An individual may have up to 300 women burned.And this went on for centuries! If anyone even breathes that what the Church is doing might be wrong or call it the evil it is, they're burned as well. Imagine the terror people must have lived under all their lives. Often a husband would tell the Inquisition that his wife was asleep in his arms at the time the so-called witchcraft she was accussed of took place; they would inform him that she'd substituted a succubi in her likeness and that was what he held. Its truly horrendous, Spiked.
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justkunmi (m)
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MadMax All.that.happened.for.real? Thats.some.gory.stuff!.
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tpia.
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Really? How come its one of your interests? You're agnostic, right? Or atheist? As for religious history, its all written in blood. And most of these holy books seem to have a thing against women. You find the cultural attitudes and personal opinions of ancient times captured in holy books, and the present is molded to comform to the past. Look at the millions of women subjected to terrible lives under Islamic laws and holy books. The Hindu books commanded widows to be burnt to death over their husband's funeral pyre. The practice ended only relatively recently. And Christianity has a history as disgraceful as any other religion; women burned at the stake for centuries for witchcraft. All it took is for one person to say You're a witch, and your fate is sealed. The witch's property is divided between the accuser and the church. She pays the costs of her trial, feeding and accomodation for her tortureres, she pays for the priests, and pays the executioner's fee. She pays for the rope if she's to be hanged. Children were burned as well. Since its a lucrative business,thousands went into the witchcraft accusation business. An individual may have up to 300 women burned.And this went on for centuries! If anyone even breathes that what the Church is doing might be wrong or call it the evil it is, they're burned as well. Imagine the terror people must have lived under all their lives. Often a husband would tell the Inquisition that his wife was asleep in his arms at the time the so-called witchcraft she was accussed of took place; they would inform him that she'd substituted a succubi in her likeness and that was what he held. Its truly horrendous, Spiked.
The Inquisition, right?  The witch hunts done in Salem Massachusetts: did they not tender a posthumous public apology to the victims, and try to make amends afterwards? Just trying to point something out here. There are many more examples of course.
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Mad_Max (f)
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Oh? Who tendered the apology in the case of Salem? And just how long after the fact? Were any of the original people involved part of this potshumous apology tendering, or was it done on their behalf by better human beings long after the fact? And pointing out a posthumous apology is intended to do what? Make what happened go away?Make it OK in some way? In any case the practice wasn't on the gargantuan scale in the US. Europe had been at it for hundreds of years. I think they only managed to get rid of the Inquisition in Italy in the 19th century. Salem was a slight case, compared to Europe.
Yeah JK. All that and much worse really happened. Been eyeing The Reader. Skimmed through months ago. Might watch it now
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justkunmi (m)
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Max Reali.happened?, thats.huge. . Was.it.made.into.a.movie?
Havent.seen.the.Reader.too. but.I've.had.it.for.a.while.now. . Heard.Kate.Winslet.did.better.in.it.than.Revolutionary.Road. You.seen.'the.Wrestler'?
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Havent.seen.the.Reader.too. but.I've.had.it.for.a.while.now. . Heard.Kate.Winslet.did.better.in.it.than.Revolutionary.Road.
she did. Reader's overrated garbage
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