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lewa (m)
Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« on: July 09, 2006, 01:15 AM »

Should the church allow hmmm, i have to be politically correct here, lesbians and homosexuals, transgered people as priests? Do you believe you can be a Christian and a homosexual at the same time?  Please contributions would be appreciated.
diddy4 (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #1 on: July 09, 2006, 01:27 AM »

i did a project on that. i will go get my file and put it on here for all to read. the church should not allow it. it is not good for the image of the church especially the catholic church. it is a hot debate in the USA now.
hot-angel (f)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #2 on: July 09, 2006, 02:15 AM »

Should the church allow it?

YES. WHY? The church has no rights whatsoever to judge humans. Afterall the bible says love your neighbor has yourself. The bible says, 'thou shall not judge'. And the bible preaches that we are all one, and all made in the image of God.

So yes the church should allow same sex marriage.
diddy4 (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #3 on: July 09, 2006, 02:17 AM »

and the same bible says man weds man is a no go area and the church preaches what the bible says and for them to preach, they must also lead by example so by saying no to same sex marriage(SSM) they are upholding what the bible tells us.
lewa (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #4 on: July 09, 2006, 02:55 AM »

Ok, what of the Episcopal church in the states.They say the church has to move with the times(?)
Is the church really behind the times?20 years ago you would be ex-communicated for this whats happening?
Nutter (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #5 on: July 09, 2006, 03:07 AM »

The teachings of the Church are clear. These teachings should stand outside time and so ought not suffer the effects of its passage in such a significant manner.

Therefore, should the Church allow same sex marriages? Absolutely Not!
diddy4 (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #6 on: July 09, 2006, 03:08 AM »

nna daalu
lordimpaq (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #7 on: July 09, 2006, 12:08 PM »

If truly the Church's doctrines are based on the bible then it should NOT be allowed, WHY,

because in the same bible that we read, and follow,  it says "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22)

it goes further to say the consequences of such act, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)

the lie in the above verse means sleep with,

thus its not right and its unbiblical, all i can say is that people are just letting their emotions run through,

Quote from: hot-angel on July 09, 2006, 02:15 AM
Should the church allow it?

NO hot angel, due to the reasons stated above

Quote from: hot-angel on July 09, 2006, 02:15 AM
The church has no rights whatsoever to judge humans. Afterall the bible says love your neighbor has yourself. The bible says, 'thou shall not judge'. And the bible preaches that we are all one, and all made in the image of God.

for once i agree with u that the church has no right watsoever to judge humans, God gave us the right to choose between right and wrong,  but the church has the right to condemn an unbiblical act, and its a pity that these same church now goes against the bible that clearly states that homosexuality is wrong,

i still conclude, no they should not, if anyone wants to marry another person of similar sex, they should rather go to the registry(marriage) to do that, if it is allowed in their country, if it is not, then Go get a dutch(netherlands) and get married,
kheme (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #8 on: July 09, 2006, 01:23 PM »

NO!!!!

Is that even a question!???
mamaput (f)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #9 on: July 09, 2006, 01:47 PM »

I also think that , that will be going too far.They should not be condemed then we are all sinners. But they have to be happy with a court mnarrage and not fool them selves on Gods blessings. Even if they find a priest that will wed them , i do not think that marrage is blessed in Heaven,,
Tomorrow i will want to marry my peinapple and take it to the church?
mamaput (f)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #10 on: July 09, 2006, 01:48 PM »

Quote from: kheme on July 09, 2006, 01:23 PM
NO!!!!

Is that even a question!???


Yes it is a question a very good one Undecided as that
Nutter (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #11 on: July 09, 2006, 07:32 PM »

Quote from: mamaput on July 09, 2006, 01:47 PM
Tomorrow i will want to marry my peinapple and take it to the church?

Exactly! Where do we draw the line?
4get_me (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages
« #12 on: July 09, 2006, 08:13 PM »

Quote from: hot-angel on July 09, 2006, 02:15 AM
The church has no rights whatsoever to judge humans. Afterall the bible says love your neighbor has yourself. The bible says, 'thou shall not judge'. And the bible preaches that we are all one, and all made in the image of God.

Yeah right - the church has no rights to judge humans, including if den be armed robber, abi? Lol, okay - I know that is stretching it a bit too far; but I don't think the Bible encourages this 'turn-a-blind-eye-to-immorality,' especially in stuff it clearly opposes. Often we say 'judge not,' but Jesus said: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." (John 7:24).

If we cannot choose between right and wrong by Biblical standards, then when the time comes there should be no reason to question the rights of people who marry animals to be priests. Some of them include a woman who married a dolphin in Israel and another woman who married a cobra in India!. (What's next - who knows??).

No matter the protests from evangelical and Bible believing Christians, gays and lesbians will still be ordained whenever they can win the votes and support of like-minded congregants. Another necessary question would be: would you worship in a church pastored or headed by a gay? For me, the answer is NO!
omogenaija (f)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #13 on: July 09, 2006, 09:31 PM »

which church is the church HuhHuhHuh


@ QUESTION

NO I BELIEVE CHURCHES SHOULDNT ALLOW IT
goodguy (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #14 on: July 09, 2006, 10:46 PM »

Quote from: hot-angel on July 09, 2006, 02:15 AM
Should the church allow it?
NO!

Quote from: hot-angel on July 09, 2006, 02:15 AM
WHY?
Because it is unbiblical.  It is ungodly.

Quote from: hot-angel on July 09, 2006, 02:15 AM
The church has no rights whatsoever to judge humans.
Yes.  But they have every right to condemn unbiblical/profane acts done by humans.

Quote from: hot-angel on July 09, 2006, 02:15 AM
Afterall the bible says love your neighbor has yourself.
True.  But condeming homosexuality does not mean hating the homosexuals themselves.

Quote from: hot-angel on July 09, 2006, 02:15 AM
The bible says, 'thou shall not judge'. And the bible preaches that we are all one, and all made in the image of God.
It's not judging.  It's called 'condemnation of immorality'.

Quote from: hot-angel on July 09, 2006, 02:15 AM
So yes the church should allow same sex marriage.
Definitely not!  The church shouldn't allow such illicit acts!
Zufugard
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #15 on: July 10, 2006, 12:53 AM »

Ok, wow. Where can I start? Okay, first of all, homosexuals, are HUMAN BEINGS. Just imagine this. You're on a planet where there are NO other people, other than gay people. Then all of the sudden, you're in love, but NONO you can't get married, just because you're the different sex. I'm not saying that planet exists, but seriously, THINK about it. Here you are, telling someone they can't get married with the one they love, just because they're different. Secondly, the bible, as far as I've researched, says NOTHING about prohibiting same sex marriage. I could be wrong, seeing as I don't look into religion all that much. But, why not? Thirdly, how can you REALLY know that gay marriage is ungodly? Have you PERSONALLY asked god if He/She approves or dissapproves of Gay marriage. If you have, then be my guest and talk your talk. Just think about it for a second.
bluenubian (f)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #16 on: July 10, 2006, 04:14 AM »

would prefer if the law allowed it first, don't think the church is ready for it.
Oracle (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #17 on: July 10, 2006, 05:59 AM »

There are many different churches today, that does many things
If the church preaches against it they should disallow it and vice versa
ajia23 (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #18 on: July 10, 2006, 07:09 AM »

I will tell the truth here, and I am sure it will certainly hurt a lot of people, but it simply is the truth. The church cannot really proclaim that same sex marriages would be banned for eternity. Why, you ask me? Simple, christianity is a religion of consensus. Eventually, when the number of gays increase, there will be modifications in christianity which would allow homosexualism. So, I would rather have christians ask themselves, should We allow homosexualism?

When it comes to morality, christianity is not the perfect example. In the US and European Union, christian parties lead the campaign for abolition of the death penalty in a lot of states and countries. This is inspite of what the bible says about the death penalty. When I pose the question of what should be done to a murderer, the answer is very varied amongst christians. Some would say he should be killed. Others will say he should be sent to prison arguing that the provision on killing is in the old testament. That Jesus is love and he should be held until he repents. There is no standard treatment of sundry crimes in christianity. So, I cannot but conclude that soon, not only the anglican church, but indeed most churches will sanction same-sex marriages and gay pastors.

I am not saying this with the cockiness of a clairvoyant, but with humility of a bemused observer. Please prove me wrong.
mamaput (f)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #19 on: July 10, 2006, 08:13 AM »

Like Jesus said give the state its dues and God his.
The state can do what they like thats one thing .When it comes to God nobody should try to twist the law.

Its almost like in Islam If i may go far  If a man divorces his wife she has to have married another person be4 he can marry her again. A man paying someone to marry the wife he wants to marry again  for even a day or a week , is twisting the law of God.

Sameway allowing homosexuals to get married  In church.Just because there are somany of them.
babadee (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #20 on: July 10, 2006, 09:32 AM »

The bible says a man shall marry a woman and not another man or a goat so why should people twist the word of God? its ok if you want to be with a man but to want Gods blessing for something he's against? this tells a lot about the world we're living in because why can the gays just be happy with a church marriage?
babadee (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #21 on: July 10, 2006, 09:34 AM »

sorry! i meant to write court marriage!
dominobaby (f)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #22 on: July 10, 2006, 10:46 AM »

The church which allows that is not BIBLE BELIEVING!!!

I mean, something which is not allowed by God, u stil want His blessings???

See ehn, we all are accountable 4 our dealings here on earth n d bible says no one should ADD OR SUBTRACT to what is written in HIS WORD!!!
dominobaby (f)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #23 on: July 10, 2006, 10:47 AM »

The church which allows that is not BIBLE BELIEVING!!!

I mean, something which is not allowed by God, u stil want His blessings???

See ehn, we all are accountable 4 our dealings here on earth n d bible says no one should ADD OR SUBTRACT to what is written in HIS WORD!!!
Rottweiler (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #24 on: July 10, 2006, 01:58 PM »

To all those who support same sex marriages:
I understand where you are coming from. Some of you are lesbians/homosexuals. Some have been abused some time in the past and they have come to take it as normal. It's such a pity. Even hot-angel is quoting the bible to support her position that we are all created in the image of God.  God's image has nothing to do with lesbiasm or homosexualism! Definitely not my own God. Except some small gods in Okija!
Busta (f)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #25 on: July 10, 2006, 03:33 PM »

NO, They SHLD NOT!!!!!!!!!!
Anabib (f)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #26 on: July 10, 2006, 05:04 PM »


Hmmm!, is this topic debateable?
the truth is that:
if God can destroy Soddom and Gommorrah (hope i spelt this right) because of their uncleanliness, Homosexuality, Immorality. etc.
should we still ask ourselves wether he "Approves'' of such acts?HuhHuhHuhHuh

If The Bible should define marriage as a union between man(Husband) and woman(wife).
For this cause a man shall leave his mother and father, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh( eph 6:31)

should a man marry/have sex with a man and a woman vice versa?

If the Church's doctrine is based on the Bible

Should we remove the part of the biblical teachings we don't want and accept the part we want.

How can people say a marriage is a union between 2 people (As the homosexuals and lesbians are defining it) when the bible says its a union between a man and a woman.

God word (bible) is unchangeable

PLS NOTE THAT
GOD  ALLOWED TO MAKE CHOICES, BUT NOT ALL CHOICES WILL LEAD US TO HEAVEN

in the near future we may start debating whether parents should marry their children

I will never support homosexuality and will never worship in a church that has the pastor/priest as one. what Righteousness will he/she be teaching me.
"Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand" he says and yet after the service he goes ahead and continue wt his immoral act.

I wonder whether he will skip the part of the bible that condems such acts during his sermon Huh Huh Huh

GOD IS PURE AND ONLY THE RIGHTEOUS WILL ENTER INTO HIS KINGDOM.
REPENT!!!

lotanna (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #27 on: July 10, 2006, 06:22 PM »

please can't we see that d devil is coming into d church. a gay priest, a lesbian priest ? no way guys.
diddy4 (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #28 on: July 10, 2006, 06:25 PM »

@anabib

true talk buddy. tell them.
lordimpaq (m)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #29 on: July 10, 2006, 06:33 PM »

well said

Zufugard
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #30 on: July 10, 2006, 08:00 PM »

Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they can't teach you or inform you any better than a straight person could
mamaput (f)
Re: Should The Church Allow Same Sex Marriages?
« #31 on: July 10, 2006, 08:04 PM »

We are not talking  about what they can do or not do . Only about marrying in the church,
Some of the best socialworkers i know are gay.
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