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sexyboy (m)
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Arsenal fans are not planning anything don't just be surprised if the likes of Rooney and Tevez are not in the team this coming season.
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tkb417 (m)
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@codedguy what do u expect from these dudes?
now its kidnapping? abeggi make we talk better thing.
are u seeing the game against Kaizer Chiefs tmr?
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coded guy (m)
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Arsenal fans are not planning anything don't just be surprised if the likes of Rooney and Tevez are not in the team this coming season.
Now u are speculating who will feature or not feature for us next season. Na wa ooooo!! @codedguy what do u expect from these dudes?
now its kidnapping? abeggi make we talk better thing.
are u seeing the game against Kaizer Chiefs tmr?
Sexyboi might be someone who changed his ID, if not, then its confirmed that the thot process of Gaynners are inversely proportional to their brain sizes  Men, not sure bout the KC game, cause Dstv has said they are not showing it and hitv are not saying anything bout it. 
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tkb417 (m)
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Kidnap Rooney and Tevez? lailai
@Coded so DSTV is not showing it? why now? HitV are crazy people. last week, they showed Galatasary,Ajax and some other games but United vs Aberdeen was not aired. Will really love to see how those guys are shaping up.
Hargo is injured again? i really do not know the solution to that guys problem.
who would you prefer? Berba or Hunter
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coded guy (m)
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Rooney just got married, i don't think he would allow them kidnappers keep him away from colleen, he would bring out his street wise arrogant attitude and would escape  . Well am not bovvered as it is planed by Gaynners, they might just count ATTEMPTING TO KIDNAP as success, if they can see finishing 3rd/4th as some sort of improvement.  Tevez is a south American, He would learn them the ART of kidnapping.  I donno what Saha has don to Hargo!!! But he berra get fit before the seson starts we need him, atleast to score some of them sublime freekicks, like the one that finally buried a certain Ass Anal  . Berba or Hunter. Have been reading your debates between u & Hannibal. Man, thats a tough one, i've always thot we strongly need an out-out striker in the mode of the hunter, cause Berba is quite withdrawn in his approach as a top striker. but truth be told i think his qualities will do us a lot of good if Fergie gets him. He can only improve playing with quality around him(sorry spurs  ). His experience in the PREM is another Advantage. Hunter is young and a deadly point man who knows how to finish as expected, will he be able to cut it in the PREM or in UNITED for that matter? That will be left to be seen. Again quality around him might make him a feared striker in the PRem. Ma choice! i would go with Hunter, simply cause we have Rooney and Tevez who are also withdrawn strikers. then Fergie would look for a match for the 4 strikers. which pair would gel better leading our attack, Manucho & Tevez or Rooney & Hunter or whatever Fergie wants to do.
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superstan (m)
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breaking news:sir alex ferguson insists cristiano ronaldo will be at manchester united next season.this was revealed in ferguson's press conference today in south africa. ferguson met cristiano ronaldo in lisbon last weekend and it has been confirmed he will be staying. what are your reactions, manchester fans. 
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tkb417 (m)
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u be funny guy o. LOL Leave Tevez with the kidnappers and I'm sure he can deal with them.
Berba vs Hunter yeah, Hunter is a beautiful goal scorer. hes been doing this for about 3 seasons. even at herrenven, he was as prolific and he is now. what i love most are his bicycle kicks and i tell you, if you are looking for proven goal scorers, Hunter comes to mind easily. But, he strikes me like a player that will go missing when the chips are down. Hes the kind of player that can be marked out of very tight and technical games.
Berba is a beautiful footballer. He scores beautiful goals as well. hes done this in 2 leagues. hes experienced, hes the skipper of the bulgarian national team, hes a player that can single handedly wreck havocs when hes at his best. Hes also a player that can be moulded to play as an out an out striker and as a matter of fact, hes done that in the past.
Hes a kind of player that live up to the big games. with Spurs, he got 23 goals!!! imagine him playing for United, he will conveniently bang in about 30 goals.
The only prob is the price tag. i agree 28mill is very on a high side but if they are going to stick to their guns, lets pay the dough and scare the living daylights out of of opponents
@superstar i don't know how the fans will take this are they going to sing for him like they used to? is he going to be at his best for United? how will his team mates react to his slave story?
i just hope this augur well for the spirit in the team
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Emperoh (m)
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I don't think SAF will be soo foolish to ignore the traits and football styles of Berba or Huntlar He has his reasons for this. Blimey if Berba could score 24 goals last season for Tots and they finished at that position, imagine what will happen when he is surrounded by QUALITY Imagine pin point crosses from left right centre A deadly aerial player and finisher.
I think we have a good buy in him. Apart from his age, i have no scruples with him. he's a good buy. We will all see this next season these am sure off baring injuries.
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coded guy (m)
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@tkb In all this, do u know what am really glad about. i'll tell you. The fact that we are talking bout getting 2 quality players, we fans agree both are quality players and cannot really settle for who Fergie should get. Berba and Hunter, with the sublime passes from scholes, carrick, fighters like Hargo and Anderson, skills from Nani and CR7 and players like Rooney and Tevez who would harrass any defence to get a headway. i think any of them will do just fine. 28millions is a lot of money to pay for Berba, but like someone pointed out, he is there priced asset and they believe (in their minds  ) that they should be in the top 4, hence the price. But if we get him for that amount and we win trophies in the next season, then its money well spent. We can't see buying Berba with 28million and then come 2nd in the PREM with 1000000points and think its an improvement. CR7 was already getting on ma nerves and i was wishing Fergie would just flogg him off, Bt i think He(fergie) still has plans for him. Lets see how he manages the situation when CR7 comes back. Remember the incidence with Rooney at the world Cup. he translated it into an awesome partnership. @ Superstan We will soon find out?
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debosky (m)
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28millions is a lot of money to pay for Berba, but like someone pointed out, he is there priced asset and they believe (in their minds  ) that they should be in the top 4, hence the price. But if we get him for that amount and we win trophies in the next season, then its money well spent. We can't see buying Berba with 28million and then come 2nd in the PREM with 1000000points and think its an improvement.
Is parroting the latest attribute to be added to the scumtwat repertoire?  Get over it already! moving up the table while increasing your points haul is an improvement, geddit? If you come second next time around, but with better performances (only surpassed by a better club for example) then you as a team improved, but your title haul didn't. Probably too complex a notion for you analogue brained scumtwats who only comprehend 0 and 1. 
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superstan (m)
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@ coded guy,
manchester united fans seems to be happy about him staying according to the news on mutv/skysports.
ferguson was firm about ronaldo and he insist he will stay at old trafford next season.
he also revealed united has tabled a twenty-two million pounds bid for berbatov.
with berbatov in and ronaldo staying, manchester united will be unstoppable.
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coded guy (m)
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Is parroting the latest attribute to be added to the scumtwat repertoire?  Get over it already! moving up the table while increasing your points haul is an improvement, geddit? If you come second next time around, but with better performances (only surpassed by a better club for example) then you as a team improved, but your title haul didn't. Probably too complex a notion for you analogue brained scumtwats who only comprehend 0 and 1.   Nice one Debo. That sentence had to bring you out of your rat hole. Anyways since you don't see winning any trophies as something to be worried bout i'll leave you to your Delusions. if you are happy bout moving one step up the table in 'a winner takes all' competition. Then you will continue to wallow in this delusion that you find yourself. If we can comprehend between 0 and 1, then Le Arses operate on negative digits
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tkb417 (m)
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@Coded don't mind them jare. Just read from Wormed now that they just got a 17 year old guy. I don't understand that Wenger at all probably the old man should be redeployed to the feeders team.
@superstan if we can get berba for 22mill and if they can get the best out of that 'slave', then we should be able to retain all our trophies.
In the EPL, who are the contenders United, Chelsea, Pool, Arsenal, Pompey and Spurs Pompey and Spurs i think will just act as spoilers to the top four. I'm having this feeling the two clubs will be very tough this season. Liverpool: with the rotation manager still in place, then nothing extraordinary will happen Chelsea: hmm, with a new manager(brasilian), i expect serious wahala from these guys. I'm only praying for Carlvalho, makalele, lampard and Drogba to leave. if these guys leave, then the job is half done Arsenal: no contest. fifth position
In the UCL Real, Barca, Juve, Inter and Bayern will try to wrestle the trophy away from us Not to forget the EPL oppositions also. its going to be another interesting and explosive season. barring injuries, then from our side, we are well stocked to deal with any opposition
what do u guys think?
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coded guy (m)
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@tkb I have seen it, infact i don reply  @Coded don't mind them jare. Just read from Wormed now that they just got a 17 year old guy. I don't understand that Wenger at all probably the old man should be redeployed to the feeders team.
@superstan if we can get berba for 22mill and if they can get the best out of that 'slave', then we should be able to retain all our trophies.
In the EPL, who are the contenders United, Chelsea, Pool, Arsenal, Pompey and Spurs Pompey and Spurs i think will just act as spoilers to the top four. I'm having this feeling the two clubs will be very tough this season. Liverpool: with the rotation manager still in place, then nothing extraordinary will happen Chelsea: hmm, with a new manager(brasilian), i expect serious wahala from these guys. I'm only praying for Carlvalho, makalele, lampard and Drogba to leave. if these guys leave, then the job is half done Arsenal: no contest. fifth position
In the UCL Real, Barca, Juve, Inter and Bayern will try to wrestle the trophy away from us Not to forget the EPL oppositions also. its going to be another interesting and explosive season. barring injuries, then from our side, we are well stocked to deal with any opposition
what do u guys think?
Kai why u wicked like this naa!!! 5th position?  wetin debosky go come talk for this one. Improvement or DISPROVEMENT 
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McKren (m)
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Please fellow United Fans
does anyone know whether we are making any progress at signing Santa Cruz
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doyin13 (m)
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We want to win trophies no doubt, but are smart enough to understand that given how we've fallen away over the past couple of seasons, [b]its not going to happen by fiat.  [/b] Now, I think this gunner gets it. . . . .Fiat value players aint going to get the title. . . .Its all about Rolls Royce and Bentleys 
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Hannibal
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I can only laugh at Debosky's idiocy. What has remarkable improvement gotta do with Arsenal's shambolic performance in the last 4 years. This was the same team that won the PREM twice in 3 seasons(2002 and 2004) and now all u can clutch is latent improvements?? So if u notch 89 points next season and come 4th, u would be happy?? You need to be shot in the face with a high-velocity paintball rifle. 
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debosky (m)
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@ doyin well technically nothe last time we won, we had Frenchies, Swedes and just a smattering of English. so It would take Renaults, Peugeots, Saabs and maybe Volvoswith one Vauxhall thrown in for good measure.  PS - we don't do vintage models, just new off the design board; we sort out the kinks and then VROOOOOM!!!  @ hannibal Well I know my reasoning is far beyond your comprehension, so why bother? Who is denying the victories of the past? Who is denying that a decline set in? Who says we are HAPPY at being 3rd? Does acknowledging a promising (if unsatisfying) improvement signal happiness? Y'all need to be lobotomized and fitted with rat temporal lobes. The scumtwat brain is completely useless. 
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Hannibal
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@ hannibal Well I know my reasoning is far beyond your comprehension, so why bother? Who is denying the victories of the past? Who is denying that a decline set in? Who says we are HAPPY at being 3rd? Does acknowledging a promising (if unsatisfying) improvement signal happiness? Y'all need to be lobotomized and fitted with rat temporal lobes. The scumtwat brain is completely useless.  Stop talking like a ponce. Finishing 3rd after being the major rival of Man Utd for so many years is appaling. The so called Arsenal V United rivalry has been watered down because u have fallen from grace to GRASS. The giants of English football are now Chelsea and of course, Man Utd.
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debosky (m)
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tides ebb and fade, empires rise and crumble. . . that is the way of the world. We were right at the top for a while and now we are having a fallow period. That happens from time to time to the best of clubs. On to more interesting news, it seems Manchester United are the chief hypocrites in world football - one second they are berating Real Madrid for unlawfully approaching their player and unsettling him, the next minute they are doing the same to a fellow premiership club. Does MU think their behaviour is right when castigating Real? "Today's public comments by Manchester United's manager, announcing that he has made an offer for Dimitar and is confident that the deal will go through with time working in their favour, is a blatant example of sheer arrogance and interference with one of our players," read a statement from Levy on the club's official website.
"It is also probably one of the worst offences by any manager in the Premier League to date and is unbelievably hypocritical given his recent comments in respect of Cristiano Ronaldo and Real Madrid.
"This comes after a series of events, dating back to last summer, which have shown Manchester United to be in breach of Premier League (PL) rules. As a result, we have today made an official complaint to the PL about the conduct of Manchester United.
"Benitez made similar comments in respect of Robbie recently and we made an official complaint to the PL about the conduct of Liverpool earlier this week.
"The behaviour of both clubs has been disgraceful. We told both clubs very early on that we had no interest in selling Robbie or Dimitar, respectively, and that they should refrain from pursuing the player. Both clubs arrogantly chose to ignore this request and we now have evidence that both clubs have systematically been working to prise the players away from us, outside of PL rules of conduct.
"Our subsequent position has been severely compromised by both clubs making their intentions widely known and indeed making contact with the players and their agents, without the Club's permission. "http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=556147&sec=england&cc=5901what excuse will Fergie have for this? Crying off to report to FIFA when doing exactly the same thing; hypocrisy of the highest level.
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akinalabi (m)
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@ debosky, There is no hypocrisy anywhere. This is what transfer wranglings have become in today's football. Real tries to tempt Ronaldo away using different methods. United fought back to keep their prized asset. We are also trying to bring Berba to OT and Spurs are fighting. Liverpool also wants Keane and Spurs are fighting. It's all about how well you can fight to bring and keep players.Something Wenger has lost the will and power to do. 
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Emperoh (m)
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@Debosky I think you are unknowingly inviting bashes from everywhere and i doubt your wit and mien to stand this wit balls hauled to your end. Well lets hope that your arses keep improving in points while we take the trophies as for the transfer, Man Utd made a bid for a player and for our boss to express optimism on get the player and then it becomes a crime!! Blimey  u can't compare it to what Real did without even making a bid and try to unsettle the player. Maybe your IQ needs some tuning. 
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superstan (m)
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@ debosky,
this is very different to what madrid kept doing.
united made an official bid to tottenham, madrid is yet to contact man utd with any bid.
how's united bid different to what wenger's bid for nasri and ramsey?
besides, sepp blatter/platini said it is ok to approach any player and they see nothing wrong.
new rules have been written, tottenham should deal with it.
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debosky (m)
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@Debosky I think you are unknowingly inviting bashes from everywhere and i doubt your wit and mien to stand this wit balls hauled to your end. Well lets hope that your arses keep improving in points while we take the trophies as for the transfer, Man Utd made a bid for a player and for our boss to express optimism on get the player and then it becomes a crime!! Blimey  u can't compare it to what Real did without even making a bid and try to unsettle the player. Maybe your IQ needs some tuning.  Are you a retard? You seem to be an avid follower of your scumtwat predecessor Jackal. So making a bid makes unsettling a player correct? Let me correct a distorted notion in your silly head - unless a club gives you permission to speak to a player and his agent, then what you are doing is absolutely no different from the aforementioned 'unsettling' you claim Madrid is doing. What did Real do in 'unsettling' Ronaldo that MU has not done? Does the bid make an illegal approach on a player right? If a club outrightly rejects a bid from you and say they do not want you to speak to their player, you might as well not have made a bid. expressing optimism about signing a player (when the club has been explicit in not wanting to trade) is unsettling the player. geddit? @ Superstan let me tell you what is different about Arsenal's bids - the clubs were contacted first; when the clubs decided that they were willing to deal and PERMITTED Arsenal to contact the player. That fundamental difference applies, whether there is a bid or not. If you do say new rules have been written, then MU should shut up and not complain about Real and Ronaldo anymore. akinalabi has made the most reasonable post here - everyone is simply fighting for their players, there is no 'moral high ground' that MU can hold on to in saying what Real did is different from what they are doing - they are fundamentally the same. It's all about how well you can fight to bring and keep players.Something Wenger has lost the will and power to do.  Hmm. . . . I wonder who it was that convinced a certain Ramsey to sign for Arsenal over MU who had hastily claimed a transfer was completed? Lost will and powere indeed. I wonder how come Cesc is still at Arsenal though he could earn maybe 10 times his income at Madrid, or why the premiership's best full backs play at the Emirates. Heck i wonder how there are any players left at AFC since he's lost the will and power! 
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Cristalz (f)
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. I wonder how come Cesc is still at Arsenal though he could earn maybe 10 times his income at Madrid, or why the premiership's best full backs play at the Emirates. Heck i wonder how there are any players left at AFC since he's lost the will and power!  Pity. . .sympathy for the poor old man and all the woes hez presently going through  AW prob'ly went from house to house begging 'em players to hold out just a little' while longer. They're still @ the Emirates out of the goodness of their hearts,not that its really where they want to be 
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Hannibal
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let me tell you what is different about Arsenal's bids - the clubs were contacted first; when the clubs decided that they were willing to deal and PERMITTED Arsenal to contact the player. That fundamental difference applies, whether there is a bid or not. If you do say new rules have been written, then MU should shut up and not complain about Real and Ronaldo anymore.
Be smart, don't be a fucking retard!!! Tottenham didn't say they are not willing to sell Berbatov. This was what Juande Ramos said concerning the future of Berbatov and Keane. . . http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/07/17/ufnspur117.xmlIf u can't see the difference between this and Man Utd that said NO SALE from day one, then u need to go to vision express!!!! Lets even assume United did try to tap Berbatov. . . . . Platini and Blatter see nuthing wrong with it. They said Madrid haven't done anything morally wrong that the happiness of a player is the most important factor. Is Berbatov itching for a move to Man Utd. . . . . .a resounding YES!!!! P.S. Man Utd have stopped moaning since UEFA/FIFA decided Real Madrid haven't done anything wrong so shussssssssshhhhh.  Hmm. . . . I wonder who it was that convinced a certain Ramsey to sign for Arsenal over MU who had hastily claimed a transfer was completed? Lost will and powere indeed. I wonder how come Cesc is still at Arsenal though he could earn maybe 10 times his income at Madrid, or why the premiership's best full backs play at the Emirates. Heck i wonder how there are any players left at AFC since he's lost the will and power!  You are speaking like a simpleton yet again after so many years of me choosing the right path for you. United never announced they signed Ramsey. . . . . . .They said they put in a bid for Ramsey and they were the 1st to do so. How did putting in a bid equates signing a player. . . . . It seems the use of English is a big problem for all GAYnners. Is it really dyslexia or lack of trophies that's making y'all GAYnners hurl trumpery and hokum?? Cesc prefers to be a big fish in a small pond. . . . He lacks ambition, drive and determination. . . .What can he win at Arsenal?? Nuthing. Hleb, Flamini, Gilberto. . . . . . .3 big players in your paper-thin squad have left and u have the audacity to spew shyte here?? Shame on u, bozo!!!!
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Cristalz (f)
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Uh debo,methinks 'tis really biased of you to have left out the concluding part of your story. . . However, when a player's head is turned and their commitment is absent, particularly when they occupy key positions such as that of striker, they become a negative influence in a team dressing room in which they were once a positive addition and influence.
'This is the situation we now have on our hands, with both Dimitar and Robbie having made it clear that they wish to leave for Manchester Utd and Liverpool respectively. 'Irrespective of the outcome and futures of Robbie and Dimitar, we are continuing to seek to bring in quality, talented players for the future, who want to play in a Spurs shirt.'
Benitez and Spurs have clashed before, in March 2006, when the Liverpool boss claimed Spurs were 'desperate' to sell Jermain Defoe and take Djibril Cisse.
It led to Benitez's professionalism being questioned by Spurs officials, and the latest fall-out is unlikely to help the relationship between the clubs.
Aston Villa had already been upset this summer by Benitez's comments regarding Gareth Barry's potential move to Anfield.
However, Ferguson believes it will be 'very embarrassing' for Tottenham if they decide to carry out their threat to report Manchester United to the Premier League.
Old Trafford boss Ferguson maintains he never mentioned anyone by name when he revealed they had tabled a bid for a player.
Ferguson claims his remarks were misreported by a national newspaper and that United may now bring in their legal team.
Speaking after the 1-1 draw against Kaizer Chiefs in the Vodacom Challenge in South Africa, he said: 'It is going to be very embarrassing for them (Tottenham)http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=556147&sec=england&cc=3888Fergie had something to say in his defense,k? Guess you were so busy gunning for something spiteful to say about United that you deliberately missed it.  As i recall,Madrid did not try to dispel any of United's accusations. So its not an entirely similar case we've got here. You and Daniel Levy had better strike your hypocrisy theory because it ain't holding water. @Reds Gosh,the match was a draw? Thot we waz going to teach 'em the game. United had better not come to Abj and draw against Portsmouth. That will so not be funny.
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Hannibal
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@ Classy Cass,
Did u see United's game against Kaizer Chiefs??
Honestly speaking, Ferguson must turn around and sign Huntelaar. It's so obvious we need an out n out striker. . . . .asking Rooney n Tevez to shoulder this responsibility is grossly unfair. Berbatov is not a prolific goal scorer and i cannot see what he would add to this United squad that Apache n Wazza don't add.
Tevez, Wazza, Vidic were all guilty of missing glaring chances. . . . . Game shoulda ended 11-1. Though it was a friendly encounter but it was a game United shoulda won if they had a Huntelaar or any tall striker in the box.
Tough season ahead.
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