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tkb417 (m)
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ok.ll help confirm u a dork too
if u dont know how to argue, go back to school. i have told u why Brown is a world class defender, ive given u facts, quotes and others.
u give me facts that state the contrary. ok!!
why is Bayern or Barca a world class club? do u know?
like i said, u'll be the one to give answers to your idiocy.
just give me facts to counter me plss, DONT DROP NAMES IDIOT
semi-literate bagger!!
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~Sauron~
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ok.ll help confirm u a dork too
if u don't know how to argue, go back to school. i have told u why Brown is a world class defender, ive given u facts, quotes and others.
u give me facts that state the contrary. ok!!
why is Bayern or Barca a world class club? do u know?
like i said, u'll be the one to give answers to your idiocy.
just give me facts to counter me plss, don't DROP NAMES IDIOT
semi-literate bagger!!
No need to argue with Dayokanu. . . . . Wes Brown plays for the English/European champions. He played against top players in Europe last season and there was never a time he was found wanting. Brown played in the heart of the defence against Barcelona and the ingenuity of Messi, Henry, Bojan, Xavi and Iniesta couldn't break him. As a result of his outstanding performance last season, he was thrusted as the number one right back in England and helped the country beat Croatia 4-1 in Zagreb. |
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Emperoh (m)
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Dr Dre you are highly needed with ya boys to tame this resident retard marauding our thread. Take him to Nairaland Hospital for first aid. If e big pass, Yaba left side is not far away. Abi im case don reach prayer house?
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dayokanu (m)
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wait, if u say hes not a world class defender, then what would u call someone who has won 2 UCL trophies? You stated that he is world class because he has won 2 UCL and i gave you a list of players/defenders who have won 2 or more UCL and for you to fit them into the world class league you are now skipping. That means your premise for making brown a world class player is Flawed in logic if it can not stand any rigour. By drawing a parallel with the example you gave, your argument failed Its called critical reasoning which you are poor at Not Critical Drinking which you are good at  Individual ability is a qualitative measure not a quantitative one. In the man Utd defence Brown is the weakest, In the EPL he does not get a mention, He struggles to get a starting shirt in a below par national team. No analyst in the world would mention 100 defenders and include Brown, Wonder why Faggotson was relunctant to increase his pay last season? No one wastes time with a world class defender. The moment Brown leaves Man Utd the next port of call would be Ipswich to play amongst his peers. The same fate that befell plonkers like Phil Neville, Djemba-Djemba, Alan Smith, Quinton Fortune, Saha, Jesper Blomqvist, David May, Nicky Butt-hole, David reBELLION, Liam Miller, Brown played in the heart of the defence against Barcelona and the ingenuity of Messi, Henry, Bojan, Xavi and Iniesta couldn't break him. Eboue, Toure, Senderos played against Zidane, Ronaldo, beckam, Guti and did not concede a goal in 180 minutes mean Senderos, Eboue and co are world class |
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~Sauron~
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Eboue and Senderos did not win the UCL, Brown did.
He was part of the formidable United defence that did not concede at OT in the K.O stages and did not lose a single game throughout the competition.
It's a tad folly to compare Wes Brown to Senderos. He is a product of the academy and one of the fledgings of Sir Alex Ferguson.
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tkb417 (m)
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No need to argue with Dayokanu. . . . .
Wes Brown plays for the English/European champions.
He played against top players in Europe last season and there was never a time he was found wanting.
Brown played in the heart of the defence against Barcelona and the ingenuity of Messi, Henry, Bojan, Xavi and Iniesta couldn't break him.
As a result of his outstanding performance last season, he was thrusted as the number one right back in England and helped the country beat Croatia 4-1 in Zagreb. i wish i can use a sledge hammer to break his head to put these things inside. how can someone just be a blockhead? its not funny. I think hes a RETARD Dr Dre you are highly needed with ya boys to tame this resident retard marauding our thread. Take him to Nairaland Hospital for first aid. If e big pass, Yaba left side is not far away. Abi I'm case don reach prayer house?  No analyst in the world would mention 100 defenders and include Brown, error!!!! i knew u'll mess up if i ask u to come with facts!!! for starters, all u mentioned are just your views that can not hold water where proper football afficionados jaw jaw lemme nail your coffin do you know Alan Hansen? is a footie analyst? ask him what he called wes brown!! ure simply an errorist!!!! go get a life and dont waste away on the net individual ability not a qualitative one? ure a just a simpleton!!! at critical games when Vidic got injured last season, did u see how a seamlessly fitted into the team? he was an integral part of the meanest defence in europe!!!! tell me how u got about him being the weakest in our defence line facts plssssssssss. |
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dayokanu (m)
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@All Scummies, Don't rush to type hogwash, just think very well before you do. else I take your argument to the cleaners. I have been wasting too much time trying to educate illiterates like TKB and Hemp-error. maybe you all should meet and type a coherent response. I would advice you contact eastbay and 4Play for contribution. Gimme a little competition. Emperoh and TKB makes it feel as if i am Albert Einstein dealing with toddlers ure simply an errorist!!!!
go get a life and don't waste away on the net
individual ability not a qualitative one?
ure a just a simpleton!!! at critical games when Vidic got injured last season, did u see how a seamlessly fitted into the team?
he was an integral part of the meanest defence in europe!!!!
tell me how u got about him being the weakest in our defence line
facts plssssssssss. can you make a meaning out of all these? Senderos and Eboue were an integral part of the meanest defence in 2006 that did not concede in like 11 European games Agreed Hemp-error is only a shrine boy at Okija but TKB I am so sorry for you, If this is all you could make out of Hours of meticulous Tutoring I gave to you!!!! I give up I now believe the saying; You can only take a horse to the river. . . . I can only enlighten you, I cant force you to reason He is a product of the academy and one of the fledgings of Sir Alex Ferguson. Phil Neville, Nicky Butt-Hole, Chris Eagles are all products of that academy Alan Hansen? have you found out what Pele thinks about Godwin Okpara, Nicky Butt, Emile Heskey and those idiots? Thats why you have to use your own head/brain and not Hansen's brains Word of advice: TKB stay of C 2H 5OH It ruins!!!! |
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~Sauron~
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Just like David Beckham, Scholes and George Best were all part of the same academy!!!
Wes Brown is England's #1 Right Back and United's number one right back.
U don't have to be a rocket scientist to know Man Utd is the best team in Europe as we speak.
They achieved that greatness on the back of a formidable defence that conceded least goals in the Premiership and the UCL in one single season.
Wes Brown is world class!!!
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tkb417 (m)
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albert einstein? u my friend, go n sleep. ure not better than the town crier of your village one word described all your typed HOGWASH!!! u said no analyst will rate Brown as a top defender and i rubbished that claim. Now ure back with pele and okpara your likes make me want to curse Nigeria because its people like you that color us bad imagine a street urchin like you feeling funky don't type if uve got no facts that says Brown isnt a world class defender. ok? f'cking imbecile |
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dayokanu (m)
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England's right back means nothing because England is crap!!!! Russian , czech republic right back should be world class too.
Oleguer and van bronckhorst were the full backs at Barca in 2006,
Djimi Traore and Steve Finan were the full backs at Liverpool in 2005,
Nuno valente and Paolo ferreira were the full backs in 2004 Porto and Portugal does this mean they are all world class?
You have indeed broken a world record. Typing over 100 words without making any sense!!!!
Alan Hansen might not have been in the right frame of mind when he said that or better still incompetent.
Why did Fergie footdrag to give him 50,000 a week last year? SAF knows he is worth far less If not for Nevilles injury and Man Utd limitation at the right back position he would have been shipped to Charlton where he rightfully belongs.
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chamotex (m)
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How many Bayern players are World Class sef?
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tkb417 (m)
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now Alan Hansen wasnt in his sences? with that statement, u shld judge urself The same SAF tht footdragged called him the most talented footballer!!! oh!! SAF wasnt in his sences too? ure not a brilliant child Thts just it |
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Cristalz (f)
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@Mukinatrixxx Zaki was taking a break from his Prem goal violence . . .pity he chose to do so on the night he played against you guys  @tgirl Interview Chamo first |
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~Sauron~
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England's right back means nothing because England is crap!!!! Russian , czech republic right back should be world class too.
U love spewing bollocks!!!! Oleguer and van bronckhorst were the full backs at Barca in 2006,
Djimi Traore and Steve Finan were the full backs at Liverpool in 2005,
Nuno valente and Paolo ferreira were the full backs in 2004 Porto and Portugal does this mean they are all world class?
They all shipped staggering amount of goals on their way to win the UCL. I am not talking about the defenders that have won the UCL but how they went on to win it For example, Traore and Finnan conceded 3 goals in the FINAL against Milan. . . . .United did not even concede more than TWO throughout the knock-out stages of the same competition last season. Man Utd conceded just 2 goals in 7 games in the knock-out stages. Whatz the comparison here?? Alan Hansen might not have been in the right frame of mind when he said that or better still incompetent.
Why did Fergie footdrag to give him 50,000 a week last year? SAF knows he is worth far less If not for Nevilles injury and Man Utd limitation at the right back position he would have been shipped to Charlton where he rightfully belongs.
Money is no object. . . . . . .Wes Brown is from Manchester(a home-grown target). David Beckham's fees at Man Utd never went past £50k and the likes of Sol Campbell were making £80k per week at Arsenal. Wes Brown is under-rated but u can hardly fault his performance last season. His assist(a one-two ball with Scholes and his delightful cross with his left foot) to find Ronaldo's head in Moscow was top drawer. |
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dayokanu (m)
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Have you heard of someone relunctant to give the most talented footballer a 50,000 a week contract. What would he call those earning 80k and above? Brown the most talented? either you or Fergie must be a comedian in training. Then what is Vidic, Ronaldo, Scholes? Gods right Alan Hansen was probably Shagging Brown or have been having binge nights with TKB United did not even concede throughout the knock-out stages of the same competition last season. Whatz the comparison here??
Lyon was in the knockout stage! FC Porto did not concede in the Final, Semis,. Man Utd did not concede in the semis and quarters. so whats the difference. Man Utd did not concede to a barca team who were obviously having scoring problems coming into the match. Money is no object. . . . . . .Wes Brown is from Manchester(a home-grown target).
David Beckham's fees at Man Utd never went past £50k and the likes of Sol Campbell were making £80k per week at Arsenal. For this argument to be valid and consistent you must compare it to how much home grown talents like Raul, Totti, DelPiero, Scholes, Schweinsteiger, Maldini, Puyol, Terry and Gerrard earn |
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tkb417 (m)
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now SAF is shagging his sister? go and read some books
u no get point
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~Sauron~
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Man Utd did not concede in the semis and quarters. so whats the difference. Man Utd did not concede to a barca team who were obviously having scoring problems coming into the match.
What about Roma?? The same Roma that knocked out Real Madrid(Spanish Champions) by beating em HOME and AWAY. They had scoring problems too i guess because they won by tossing a coin in both legs. U don't have a point. The Porto team that won the UCL that season had world class players too. Carvalho was the best defender in the UCL in 2004. . . . .Same position Wes Brown played and did not concede a goal against Roma and Barca. |
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dayokanu (m)
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TKB just go and sleep last weekends hangover is still troubling you.
Scoring against Real madrid is the easiest thing Even this season . Teams like Arsenal, Roma, bayern, Leverkusen punished them heavily, and lately Real Union knocked them out in a 6-6 aggregate, Check all their games they ship goals in bucketfuls
Man Utd has world class players like Vidic, Ronaldo and Tevez but to now call every member of the starting 11 world class is over the top
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~Sauron~
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Scoring against Real madrid is the easiest thing Even this season . Teams like Arsenal, Roma, bayern, Leverkusen punished them heavily, and lately Real Union knocked them out in a 6-6 aggregate, Check all their games they ship goals in bucketfuls
Shame on Spanish teams then if Real Madrid ship goals in stackloads and they have won the La Liga back to back. |
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tkb417 (m)
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im actually going for a karaoke session in few minutes. ill spare u
u this unrepentant Nazi
fck u
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dayokanu (m)
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Karaoke?? Nsobu Dikwa!!! Wahala ti de!! Are you the performer or the spectator? Maybe karaoke means a Bar!!
Last season most Spanish teams were in trouble.
Barca was having a horrid time with several key players injured.
Valencia changed coaches and almost had a mutiny Some players were expelled.
Sevilla's coach resigned mid season,
And all sorts of problems made Madrid to win.
Check the last few weeks of the La Liga last season and you would know what I am saying about Barca
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~Sauron~
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Harry Redknapp has turned Tottenham into Barcelona.
Spurs are raping Liverpool as we speak.
Let me say this again. . . . . .SPURS 3-0 Liverpool(Half time).
Fraizer Campbell has scored a BRACE already. . . . . .Are SPURS the kings of Carling Cup??
The same team mauled the GAYnners 5-1 last season.
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tubabie (f)
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Harry Redknapp has turned Tottenham into Barcelona.
Spurs are raping Liverpool as we speak.
Let me say this again. . . . . .SPURS 3-0 Liverpool(Half time).
Fraizer Campbell has scored a BRACE already. . . . . .Are SPURS the kings of Carling Cup??
The same team mauled the GAYnners 5-1 last season.
it is now SPURS 4-2 LIVERPOOL as we speak |
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~Sauron~
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it is now SPURS 4-2 LIVERPOOL as we speak
Game over. Chelsea are being held 1-1 by Burnley at Stamford Bridge!!! The match is now in the 2nd half of extra time. |
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tkb417 (m)
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Chelsea lost at home again?  The bridge has collapsed patapata how are we gonna play this spurs people ehn? this is the second time they are beating Pool in 2 weeks na wa o |
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Emperoh (m)
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TKB Lets get there first. Harry has always been a wahala for Fergie As it was in Portsmouth so shall it be in Tottenham Dayo Nazi You must be a mutant illiterate to think am an Okija Priest Isi o mebii gi!!! Are you on some expired wollies??? I have asked you countlessly to define a world class player, with no sensible response from you. All i get is some whacked extint football names That prolly won the UCL as subs I bet ya peops must be regretting cos you were sent to school To acquire some good education and be useful But you ended up being a WORLD CLASS ILLITERATE I will not answer your fuckeries again until you define me a World Class Player |
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dayokanu (m)
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Hemp-error, Why are you not proud of your profession? You are an altar boy at Okija AT least its better than being unemployed. World Class - a player that has proven himself to be one of the best in his position
in the Champions League, UEFA Cup, domestic league and cup competitions and international level http://soccer-europe.com/Statistics/Players/WorldClassWinter2005.html
world-class player who can provide the transforming moments of skill and vision that can turn a game around by finding the openings invisible to others
Which of these definition does Brown fit? |
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Emperoh (m)
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Wes Brown Has duely acquitted himself in the above definition you gave;
Provided assist in United's goal in UCL finals
Covered and Deputised Well for Vidic during the 2007/08 UCL Quarter and Semi-final
Was part of the Treble winning side of '99
Has been decribed as the most natural and consumate defender in England and Europe
Even though with a career blighted by injury, he rose last term to stand shoulders high above all Right full backs in the English Premier league
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dayokanu (m)
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Amongst United defender rate him and what position does he take?
I gave you like 6 right full backs who are better than him in the EPL alone let alone Europe.
Most natural and consummate my foot!!!!!!
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Emperoh (m)
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There is no and i Repeat, NO right full back better than Wes Brown in the English Premier League
Pray tell me what?
Bosingwa? That seems not to know how to Mark and Close. Clueless when faced with a Strong going forward is blunt in such occassions
Sagna? Tenacious at the back but totally clueless going forward. (Brown is not as good doing forward but does better compared to Sagna)
Alvaro Arbeloa? Shit if you ask me. Lacks the tenacity and guile of a modern day two.
I have just analysed The RB's of the top four. Any other name you mention here is shit else he is supposed to with a club in the top four.
The one and only defender in Europe that compares greatly with Brown and whom i accept is great is Sergio Ramos
But with the Way they leak goals, i beg to differ here.
Brown has the tenacity of a defender, guile and brains of a footballer and goes forward without exposing his back.
Can you beat that?
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Emperoh (m)
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Was compared in the 99/00 season to be as good as Jaap Stam
Can you beat that?
In United Defence, and given the work he does, there is none better than him at Right back
In comparaison with other defenders, he is as good as Vida having deputised well in his absence without conceding.
And also shutting the door of the United Defense in Barca'a face.
And spare me the line that Barca wasn't scoring because they didn't get to the semis, Scoring penalties
They scored goals. With the whole of;
Messi's artistry
Etoo's goal poaching skills
Henry's defence splitting runs#
Xavi and Iniesta's eagle eyes and pin point pass,
United's defence marshalled by Rio Ferdinand and Wesley Brown couldn't be unlocked.
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tkb417 (m)
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Was compared in the 99/00 season to be as good as Jaap Stam
Can you beat that?
In United Defence, an given the work he does, there is none better than him at Right back
In comparaison with other defenders, he is as good as Vida having deputised well in his absence without conceding.
And also shutting the door of the United Defense in Barca'a face.
And spare me the line that Barca wasn't scoring because they didn't get to the semis, Scoring penalties
They scored goals. With the whole of;
Messi's artistry
Etoo's goal poaching skills
Henry's defence splitting runs#
Xavi and Iniesta's eagle eyes and pin point pass,
United's defence marshalled by Rio Ferdinand and Wesley Brown couldn't be unlocked.
excellent!!! one of your best posts |
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