Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds

as much as i love ruud, i don't think we'll miss him that much (not taking anything away from the guy) he has served man utd but i think at 30, 10 million is s good price. although we should not expect the top goal scorer coming from man utd, i think the goals will surely come with saha, rooney, smith, ronaldo and the rest.

now on carrick, i think fergie has really blown it this time,, spending 18 million on a guy with little or no international experience. only 9 caps for england (one in the world cup). he is not a natural ball winner, he does not dictate the pace of the game, all he does is release the ball when he gets it(which he does well), anyone who watches tottenham would agree. his strenght in midfield comes only when he is partnered, (davids or king, in tot). except fergie gets mascherano or a player like viera, carrick might just be a white horse,  He is way toooooooooo expensive. can u imagine riquelme was worth around 4million? a player way better than carrick, ?? Hope fergie knows what he's doin.

now that carrick has been "purchased" we still need one holding player in the defensive midfield in the likes of mascherano, and one forward player. (not carlos tevez, because he plays just like rooney. who needs 2 rooneys in a team??) maybe a player like lucas podolski,

one united,

your squad looks decent but i can't find any grit in the midfield.
What about this?
               

                                        Van Der Sar

G. Neville              R. Ferdinand     N. Vidic         G. Heinze

                                      J Mascherano

             P Scholes                                       J Riquelme


                         W. Rooney                  C. Ronaldo
                                           
                                            F. Torres
                                                 
                             
                                             


                                       

A very correct assertion


@ Jackal   Pirlo is better than any player in Arsenal. That is y he can come to the world cup and walked away with the highest number of MAN OF THE MATCH awards, EVEN IN THE FINALS WHERE ZIDANE, VIERA, THURAM AND HENRY PLAYED.

Without a touch of sentiment Pirlo is the best deeplying playmaker in the world, and that is by many miles. He has premiered a new role 4 defensive midfielders for generations to come. He is the most precise player in Europe. Dont compare him with anything u have in the premiership. He premiered a new style of freekicks and is one of the best dead ball specialists in Europe.

Once again, u have shown that u dont know much about players apart from the Premeirship.

@ sage,

even though i never will agree with u on pirlo being better than any player in Arsenal, but you all can see how Jackal makes silly analogies atimes but it is not as if he does not now about other leagues but he just likes contradicting what people like me say on some issues, pls help me remind him that at the moment PIRLO IS THE BEST PASSER OF THE BALL at the moment

@ sage,
I believe u will be better off analysing ice hockey.
Football analysis is not just your thang so tape it shut.
Riquelme does not even play in the Premiership and i did not compare Pirlo with any premiership player.
Don't u read carefully before u post comments?

Roman Riquelme is by miles the best passer of the ball in the world at the moment.
Pirlo gets mentioned these days because Italy won the world cup. A kid of 5 knows that.
Riquelme's assists at this last world cup is top draw and 80% of his deliveries/passes led to meaningful goals at the world cup.
I will not even rank Pirlo in the top 5 of the best passers of the ball.
Fabregas, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Mikel Obi will rank above your Pirlo.
Seedorf calls the shotz at AC Milan not Andrea Pirlo.
Pirlo ma ass.

@debosky,
Without shooting ma mouth off, I believe i know more football players than u do.
My scopes are wider than the EPL cos i watch over 15 football leagues constantly.
South America, Asia, America and Europe so don't make a monkey of urself.
How can u guys compare Pirlo to Riquelme?
I guess u listen more to Pub gists than u see.
Look beyind your nose.

@ Kitaun,
I dunno what u watch.
My opinion still remains Riquelme has a better vision and superb deliveries than Pirlo.
Mikel Obi passes better than Pirlo whether u like it or not.

@Lordimpaq,
Torres has not penned the dotted lines yet so he is still available.
There are renewed interests and Athletico will gladly sell Torres off for 25 million pounds.
Who says Cash does not rule?

@ debosky.
Lets profile Riquelme and Pirlo based on the world cup.
Do u know how many Riquelme's passes that led to goals?
He was a constant menace thruout the whole world cup.
Riquelme's vision was top draw and his timing and accuracy deserves mentioning.
FIFA's rating is sh*t to me so i don't even reckon with their Man of The Match awards.
R u not surprised John Terry made FIFA's 23 ahead of Joe Cole, Hargreaves and Rio Ferdinand?
I don't need to wait for FIFA to tell me who plays good football.
Riquelme was a master-class at what he does and thatz supplying the most subliminal of passes.

Check these 2 stats.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/player/166380_RIQUELME_Juan.html

and http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/player/177876_PIRLO_Andrea.html

Pls tell me who played better at the world cup.

@sage,
I watched all Pirlo's game at Serie A last season.
Pirlo is a good player but he is not the best passer of the ball in the world at the moment.
Riquelme, Zidane and Dinho are miles ahead of him. U cannot even compare Andrea Pirlo to these trio.
Mind u, (Riquelme + Zidane + Dinho) don't even play in the Premiership so forget the fact that i watch Premiership fixtures alone.

U goofed it totally by saying he is one of the best free-kick takers in the world.
Where wld u put Juninho Pernambucano, Ronaldinho and Riquelme.
I am yet to see any player that matched Riquelme's overall dominance of the midfield like he did at the world cup.
Precision, defence-splitting passes, great vision and deft touches.
Maybe u need to take your eyes off Serie A for a while and watch other European leagues.
Andrea Pirlo is great but he is not the best midfielder in the world.

Fergie is havin his big eyes on marcos senna,  Wat do u guys think?

Marcos Senna will surely be a good buy.
Fergie should go all out for him.

wt do u guys hink bout rooney and scholes's suspension??? it is very unreasonable,  The red card given to rooney was grossly unfair. he jumped for the ball with the other player and as he landed, his hand hit him onthe head and a red card was shown,  i seriously think the are refree was trying to make a scape goat out of rooney. A bad reputation has gone before him and i seriously hope it does not follow him into the new season.

well according to the FA an 'independent' commission reviewed the decisions, I hope for man u's sake they can still get something out of those three games, the tottenham game will definitely be the hardest test.

another bad beginning to the season?

Man Utd is def'ly the most hated club in England.
If the Amsterdam tournament is high profile enough to ban Man Utd players then Gerrard and Mellor should have been banned three years ago.
Saying you didn't receive a report is a feeble excuse. Rooney and Scholes have been given a 4 match ban having already served one match in the tournament itself, how can the FA get away with that?

Also a few seasons ago Wayne Rooney got banned for 3 matches for the slight push on Ben Haim of Bolton. Last Sunday in the Community Shield, Essien of Chelsea pushed both of his hands in the face of a Liverpool player and wasn't even spoken to. The FA are definitely are biased against United.
Whatever Rooney, Scholes or Ronaldo does is a capital punishment but Essien, Lampard and many other players are sacred cows.

I'm afraid for Rooney. Referees would want to make a scape goat out of him. Any little tackle, any little shove, any little out burst  might come with a red. His reputation is goin ahead of him and i seriously feel for d guy. Who can stop this? The FA? that banned him for 3 matches just because a card happy referee accused him of "gross misconduct". Hope d 3 match ban would not affect man u, cos they are against charlton, watford and tottenham. D tot game might be d most difficult but we'll weather d storm. I jus thank God he'll be back against Arsenal.
One United.

@ Justkunmi,
Don't worry mate.
The title hopes are getting bleak by the day.
United might even start the season the way we ended it last May.
None of the new buys of 2006 is likely to feature in our first few games.
Carrick is out, Vidic is injured, Kusczack will understudy Van Der Sar and Evra will work hard to dislodge Gabby Heinze.

I'm just sick and tired with the way United has handled the transfer market.
Riquelme + Senna couldn't have been more than 10 million quid.
Why pay 14 million for a turkey like Carrick.
Just heard Liverpool has signed Dirk Kuyt for 10 million which is one of the most brilliant buys of the season.
Liverpool attack now has prodigal son(Bellamy) and Kuyt which i believe could be more dangerous than Sheva + Drogba attack.

United needs to land a striker that will deliver 20 goals a season.
Rossi is still a young lad. Solskjaer's strength might fail him and Louis Saha's form is suspect.
Rooney n Ronaldo cannot do it alone judging by the way match officials are picking on 'em.
Ruud has taken his 25+ goals a season to Real Madrid so who fills his position.
Huntelaar, Tevez, Luca Toni or Morten Gamst Pedersen(Blackburn) might just do.

I think we need another striker of the calbre of outgone ruud.
liverlooks ready to clinch the league title and the chelsea threat to is ever present.
get on your knees and pray for this season

i think man u will have a few rough games, especially the one with tottenham, but really rooney needs to learn. beckham had the same issues and he learnt, and of course the great Vieira also had it but after he cooled it and focused on his game, no one picked on him anymore. let the games begin!