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mukina2 (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #32 on: March 14, 2007, 09:56 PM »

he was not
Free (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #33 on: March 14, 2007, 11:34 PM »

lmao Grin


how will I know if he was  Huh

mukina2 (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #34 on: March 14, 2007, 11:37 PM »

Quote from: Free on March 14, 2007, 11:34 PM
lmao Grin


how will I know if he was  Huh



please ask Babyosisi she was dere then Angry
Free (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #35 on: March 14, 2007, 11:50 PM »

why u angry sakinah


did he molest U Grin Grin
babyosisi (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #36 on: March 15, 2007, 01:28 AM »

judging by him sleeping with a 9 year old who was still playing with dolls when he was 54,he was.
That is my evidence (don't give me that crap of girls being ripe at 9 in Mohammeds time)
He was a dirty old man.
oyb (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #37 on: March 15, 2007, 07:46 AM »

yeah absolutely  u are sooo very correct.
since the rest of us are unenlightened, kindly show us your proof.
by d way, u are one rabid islamophobe. i bet u foam at the mouth whenever u see guys with beards or women with hijab
mukina2 (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #38 on: March 15, 2007, 12:16 PM »

Quote from: Free on March 14, 2007, 11:50 PM
why u angry sakinah

i am angry because babyosisi always hates on Islam
if she's so perfect why can't she live our Prophet alone
she believes he raped  little girls
and her so called proofs she gets form propaganda sites


@baby
no muslim in here have ever Insulted Jesus
if you want to prove ur story why not sell it to pay per view
babyosisi (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #39 on: March 16, 2007, 02:45 AM »

all the proof is from the hadiths,the very words of Aisha.
I did not write them.
You may be embarrased by his actions,I can't help it.
oyb (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #40 on: March 16, 2007, 08:26 AM »

Quote from: mukina2 on March 15, 2007, 12:16 PM
i am angry because babyosisi always hates on Islam
if she's so perfect why can't she live our Prophet alone
she believes he raped little girls
and her so called proofs she gets form propaganda sites


@baby
no muslim in here have ever Insulted Jesus
if you want to prove your story why not sell it to pay per view

why are you bothered by the rantings of an raving islamophobe psychotic who spends all her free time looking for hate literature on islam?the baby christian fundamentalist doesn't have a liff, or a purpose, and hating on islam fills a void.that's all there  is to it.

as to insulting jesus(isa) you forget, jesus was a prophet who christians have turned into a god.why shuould u be bothered by the ravings of one who has gone astray?
dblock (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #41 on: March 16, 2007, 08:34 AM »

Leave Jesus out of this, they aren't in the same league
oyb (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #42 on: March 16, 2007, 08:45 AM »

go and read up on islam before u say that.like so many of your ilk, you don't know the first thing about islam.all the prophets in your bible are also in the Quran. adam, abraham(ibrahim), moses(musa) david(dawud), solomon(suliman) joseph(yusuf) jesus(isa),
bet you didn't know that Cheesy
oyb (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #43 on: March 16, 2007, 08:49 AM »

Quote from: dblock on March 16, 2007, 08:34 AM
Leave Jesus out of this, they aren't in the same league


r u stalking me?
it seems you are mostly into forum games Grin
dblock (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #44 on: March 16, 2007, 09:16 AM »

Believe me I already knew all of that, what do yo take me for.
I just don't think that Jesus of christianity is Isa, because Jesus is no prophet, he is God's son and is God in Human form
He is distant enough from God to be Humanlike but Close enough to be God himself

Isa doesn't have those qualities, Arabs must have mistaken him for some common local or something, they must have mixed up their scrolls somewhile ago LOl
dblock (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #45 on: March 16, 2007, 09:17 AM »

Quote from: oyb on March 16, 2007, 08:49 AM


r u stalking me?
it seems you are mostly into forum games Grin

Nahh it's just coincidence, I don't stalk people. And I'm not just into forum Games

I'm into Forum Games/Politics/A bit of religion/Sports/Travel/Music and Radio
mukina2 (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #46 on: March 16, 2007, 02:59 PM »

Quote from: dblock on March 16, 2007, 08:34 AM
Leave Jesus out of this, they aren't in the same league

are you out of ur mind Angry
babyosisi (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #47 on: March 16, 2007, 07:55 PM »

Quote from: oyb on March 16, 2007, 08:26 AM
why are you bothered by the rantings of an raving islamophobe psychotic who spends all her free time looking for hate literature on islam?the baby christian fundamentalist doesn't have a liff, or a purpose, and hating on islam fills a void.that's all there is to it.

as to insulting jesus(isa) you forget, jesus was a prophet who christians have turned into a god.why shuould u be bothered by the ravings of one who has gone astray?

Hmm.
What a genius?
dblock (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #48 on: March 17, 2007, 07:59 AM »

Quote from: mukina2 on March 16, 2007, 02:59 PM
are you out of your mind Angry

I never implied that it meant that Jesus was better or Vice Versa. It is like saying Ganeesh and Buddha aren't in the same league would only mean that Ganeesh and Buddha are different, because I said nothing more.

But I did mean it the wrong way though Grin
mrpataki (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #49 on: March 17, 2007, 05:22 PM »

YES he was Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
mukina2 (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #50 on: March 17, 2007, 11:18 PM »

Dblock i suggest you a shrink

same goes for you pataki Angry
dblock (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #51 on: March 18, 2007, 05:31 AM »

WHy don't you show me, by continueing the battle in the You Vs me Thread(Freestyle)
Hey Mukina Grin Grin
I mean I disrespected someone that is held so high in the Islamic religion, I am such a stupid little kid you better tech me a lesson
oyb (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #52 on: March 18, 2007, 02:34 PM »

"Infact there was a case in Afghanistan where the girl (7 years old) was given to a 40 year old man, and she had her first child at 10. "

hmmm, this is the sort of bull that numbnuts keep parading about!

unnnnnnh!

a sexually mature 10 year old!good heavens! tis another miracle! was it in the guiness book of records? what will you propagandists come up with next?

as always , i have 2 ask, how many northern muslims do you know personally, are are you just busy peddling urban legends?
kellorah (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #53 on: March 18, 2007, 02:36 PM »

wot sort of post is this?  Angry
mukina2 (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #54 on: March 18, 2007, 02:38 PM »

Dblock

i am going to let you be
when yopu are 21 then we can battle Tongue Grin Grin
oyb (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #55 on: March 18, 2007, 02:47 PM »

Quote from: kellofish on March 18, 2007, 02:36 PM
wot sort of post is this? Angry

kindly refer to the contents of the first post
babyosisi (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #56 on: March 20, 2007, 02:46 AM »

Quote from: kellofish on March 18, 2007, 02:36 PM
wot sort of post is this? Angry
I ask the same question too.
The question of Mo as a pedophile shouldn't even arise.
He was attracted sexually to aisha while she was a baby,he married her at 6 and slept with her at 9,if that's not pedophilia,I don't know the definition anymore.
babyosisi (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #57 on: March 20, 2007, 02:56 AM »

Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad
by Ali Sina

The thought of an old man becoming aroused by a child is one of the most disturbing thoughts that makes us cringe as it reminds us of pedophilia and the most despicable people. It is difficult to accept that the Holy Prophet married Aisha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is of course not true and here is the proof.

Sahih Bukhari 7.18
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

Arabs were a primitive lot with little rules to abide. Yet they had some code of ethics that they honored scrupulously. For example, although they fought all the year round, they abstained from hostilities during certain holy months of the year. They also considered Mecca to be a holy city and did not make war against it. A adopted son’s wife was deemed to be a daughter in law and they would not marry her. Also it was customary that close friends made a pact of brotherhood and considered each other as true brothers. The Prophet disregarded all of these rules anytime they stood between him and his interests or whims.

Abu Bakr and Muhammad had pledged to each other to be brothers. So according to their costoms Ayesha was supposed to be like a niece to the Holy Prophet. Yet that did not stop him to ask her hand even when she was only six years old.

But this moral relativist Prophet would use the same excuse to reject a woman he did not like.

Sahih Bukhari V.7, B62, N. 37
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
It was said to the Prophet, "Won't you marry the daughter of Hamza?" He said, "She is my foster niece (brother's daughter). "

Hamza and Abu Bakr both were the foster brothers of Muhammad. But Ayesha must have been too pretty for the Prophet to abide by the codes of ethics and custom.

In the following Hadith he confided to Ahesha that he had dreamed of her before soliciting her from her father.

Sahih Bukhari 9.140
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' Then you were shown to me, the angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said (to him), 'Uncover (her), and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' "

Whether Muhammad had actually such dream or he just said it to please Ayesha is not the point. What matters here is that it indicates that Ayesaha was a baby being “carried” by an angel when the Prophet dreamed of her.

There are numerous hadithes that explicitly reveal the age of Ayesha at the time of her marriage. Here are some of them.
oyb (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #58 on: March 20, 2007, 09:51 AM »

wow, you must think you are the only one that can access wikipedia.

why didn't you copy and paste the whole article? Grin Cheesy Wink

here's the rest of the article

Evidence that Aisha was older than nine
Muqtedar Khan argues that there are different reports within the Islamic sources about the age of Aisha at the time of marriage,[6] Maulana Muhammad Ali makes a detailed historical argument that Aisha was betrothed at nine or ten, but was fifteen at marriage,[5] while Moiz Amjad agrees with Hafiz Niaz Ahmad and Habib ur Rahman Kandhalwi and argues on the authenticity of hadith regarding Aisha's age and shows that it contradicts with other Islamic literature and puts her age at marriage as late as twenty.[2][3][4] Following arguments are given to support this conclusion.

Wikisource has a book written by Habib ur Rahman Kandhalwi:
Age of Aisha
[edit] Authenticity of hadith regarding Aisha's age
Reports regarding Aisha's age were recorded during the Abbasid caliphate when Aisha's youth might be deliberately emphasized by scholars to reject Shi'a claims for the descendants of Ali ibn Abi Talib.[19]
Most of the narratives regarding Aisha's age are reported only by Hisham ibn Urwa reporting on the authority of his father. All the narratives of this event have been reported through narrators from Iraq, where Hisham ibn Urwa is reported to have shifted after living in Madinah for seventy-one years. It is reported in one of the most well known books on the life and reliability of the narrators of the traditions ascribed to Muhammad that Yaqub ibn Shaibah said, "narratives reported by Hisham are reliable except those that are reported through the people of Iraq". It further states that Malik ibn Anas objected on those narratives of Hisham, which were reported through people of Iraq.[20] Another book on the narrators of the traditions of Muhammad reports that when he was old, Hisham's memory suffered quite badly.[21]
Muhammad is attributed to say, "A woman must be consulted and get her permission to make the marriage valid".[22] According to another report, Aisha at the age of nine was rather more interested to play with toy-horses than to take up the responsible task of a wife.[23] The permission of an immature girl cannot be a valid authorization for marriage.
Comparison of hadith of Aisha's age with hadith of Laylat al-Qadr, in which 1 was used for 21, 3 for 23, 5 for 25 and so on, suggest that maybe Aisha's reports were transmitted literally and 16 became 6 and 19 became 9, as it is a way of talking in Arabic language when base is already known.[3]

[edit] Evidences from Islamic literature
According to hadith in Bukhari and Muslim, Aisha is said to have joined Muhammad on the raid that culminated in the Battle of Badr, in 624 CE[24] and then in 625 CE in the Battle of Uhud.[25] As no one below the age of fifteen was allowed to accompany raiding parties,[26][27] Aisha should have been at least fifteen in 624 CE and thus at least thirteen when she was married following the Hijra in 622 CE.
Ibn Hisham's recension of Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rashul Allah, the earliest surviving biography of Muhammad, records Aisha as having converted to Islam before Umar ibn al-Khattab, during the first few years of Islam around 610 CE. In order to accept Islam she must have been walking and talking, hence at least three years of age, which would make her at least fifteen in 622 CE.[28]
Tabari reports that Abu Bakr wished to spare Aisha the discomforts of a journey to Ethiopia soon after 615 CE, and tried to bring forward her marriage to Mut`I'm ibn `Uday's son. Mut`am refused because Abu Bakr had converted to Islam, but if Aisha was already of marriageable age in 615 CE, she must have been older than nine in 622 CE.[29][4](p.91)
Tabari also reports that Abu Bakr's four children were all born during the Jahiliyyah,[30] the pre Islamic period, which is said to have ended in 610 CE, making Aisha at least twelve in 622 CE when Aisha started living with Muhammad.
Aisha is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur'an , was revealed, "I was a young girl".[31] The 54th Surah of the Qur'an was revealed nine years before Hijrah.[32] According to this tradition, Aisha had not only been born before the revelation of the referred Surah, but was actually a young girl, not even only an infant at that time. So if this age is assumed to be 7 to 14 years then her age at the time of marriage would be 16 to 23.
According to almost all the historians, Asma bint Abu Bakr, the elder sister of Aisha, was ten years older than Aisha.[33][34] Asma is reported to die in the 73 AH, when she was 100 years old.[35][36] Now, obviously if Asma was 100 years old in the 73 AH, she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of Migration to Medina (1 AH). If Asma was 27 or 28 years old at that time, Aisha should have been 17 or 18 years old at the same time. Thus, Aisha - if she got married in 1 AH or 2 AH - was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.

It is not clear when Aisha was born. Most scholars calculate her age, by reference to the date of her marriage to Muhammad (622) and then subtracting her age at marriage. Her age of marriage is usually given as nine, placing her birth at around 613, but the issue is controversial and other theories about her age have been proposed.

Aisha was the daughter of Umm Rumman and Abu Bakr of Mecca. Abu Bakr belonged to the Banu Taim sub-clan of the tribe of Quraysh, the tribe to which Muhammad also belonged. Aisha is said to have followed her father in accepting Islam when she was still young. She also joined him in his migration to Ethiopia in 615 AD; a number of Mecca's Muslims emigrated then, seeking refuge from persecution by the Meccans who still followed their pre-Islamic religions.

According to the early Islamic historian al-Tabari, Aisha's father tried to spare her the dangers and discomfort of the journey by solemnizing her marriage to her fiance, Jubayr, son of Mut`am ibn `Adi. However, Mut’am refused to honor the long-standing betrothal, as he did not wish his family to be connected to the Muslim outcasts. The emigration to Ethiopia proved temporary and Abu Bakr's family returned to Mecca within a few years. Aisha was then betrothed to Muhammad



Main article: Aisha's age at marriage
The age of Aisha at marriage is an unsettled issue, and the subject of increasing attention in recent years. Several hadiths said to have been narrated by Aisha herself, such as Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234 and Sahih Muslim 8:3311, state she was six or seven years old when betrothed to Muhammad and nine years old when married or when the marriage was consummated.[2] Other traditional material (hadith, sira, etc.) suggests that Aisha may have been anywhere from twelve to nineteen years old when she married.[3][4][5] Critics of Muhammad accept the Muslim tradition that she was as young as nine years old, and believe this reflects negatively on his character. Others, such as historian William Montgomery Watt, claim these are presentist critiques, anachronistically judging Muhammad by modern standards of morality rather than by those of his contemporaries.[6]

observe the word "critics of Mohmmed"

also, observe the definition of pedophilia(also from wikipedia)

Pedophilia, paedophilia or pædophilia (see spelling differences) is the paraphilia of being sexually attracted primarily or exclusively to prepubescent or peripubescent children. A person with this attraction is called a pedophile or paedophile.

In contrast to the generally accepted medical definition, the term pedophile is also used colloquially to denote significantly older adults who are sexually attracted to adolescents below the local age of consent,[1] as well as those who have sexually abused a child.

it seem in some of your other posts you have referred to prophet Muhamed(SAW) as a rapist of women.i was under the impression that sexual deviants kept to one choice. how come you only have your 'evidence' of Aisha? what , no other victims?

maybe u need to take some classes in critical reasoning

plus:more double standards i quote you-'everybody knows that the davinci code is made up"

but its so easy for you to beleive some unauthenticated 'hadiths'

do tell what muslims have done to you or your family Cry, maybe then we can understand what all this blind ,focused hate is about

babyosisi (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #59 on: March 20, 2007, 08:11 PM »

oyb,I will not degenerate into talks on your family,wives ,girlfriends or concubines.
You as a person are inconsequential to me.
I barely present a truth that many have found out.
If aisha was 25 when Muhammad slept with her excellent,the mere fact that a hadith by her own words places her as a child of 6 should concern everyone who loves children.he said she was plying with her dolls and her friends.
Teenage girls do not play with dolls.

We've had a Muslim here tell us Mo and his gang also obtained consent to rape the girls whose husbands they killed in wars,the ones their right hand obtained and I know that there are tons of women waiting to jump in bed with their husbands murderers.(in your dreams)
What a sick way of reasoning.
babyosisi (f)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #60 on: March 20, 2007, 08:22 PM »

It is only the so called moderate muslims like you that deny aishas age because it is embarassing to you all in this modern age.Old muslim historians never denied it.The hadiths that quoted her are authentic hadiths.
I do not quote wikipedia and never will.
Virtually anybody can be a writer on wikipedia.
We have several here on nairaland
oyb (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #61 on: March 21, 2007, 11:34 AM »

this is the original post:

I have posted this question as part of my reply to some topic but for some reason it has never been addressed by muslims on this site. It is a very common practice not only in the middle-east but also among muslims in Africa to have really young (underage) girls given to older (adult) men in marriage. Infact there was a case in Afghanistan where the girl (7 years old) was given to a 40 year old man, and she had her first child at 10. This is a very common practice amongst muslims especially in the middle east. SO I researched the topic and found out that their "prophet" mohammed also got married to underage girls including a 9 year old. In the west this is called pediophilia and I just feel in my hear that there is something fundamentally wrong with  this behavior. First not only does it deny the girl her fundamental right to choose whom to marry as an adult but it also has a lot of medical implications to be get a young child involved sexually at that age. SO will this make mohammed a pedophile??? will it mean that islam is incompactible with democracy and the fundamental right of women to choose and equality? What does it also say about the U.N which included in its human right organisation countries where these practices are common place?

Please I will appreciate it if we stay on topic and make the answers as precise as possible




It is a very common practice not only in the middle-east but also among muslims in Africa to have really young (underage) girls given to older (adult) men in marriage

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol12no11/06-0510.htm

Child marriage, defined as marriage of a child <18 years of age, is an ancient, worldwide custom

hmm once again,  the Christian Intellctuals(an intellectual is someone who has been educated beyond his intelligence) place the blame for an evil that has been around long before the advent of islam squarely at the feet of everyboody's favorite bad guy, the muslims!

Infact there was a case in Afghanistan where the girl (7 years old) was given to a 40 year old man, and she had her first child at 10.

u mean to say the girl had strated ovulating at the age of nine?must be another case of precocious puberty!

will it mean that islam is incompactible with democracy and the fundamental right of women to choose and equality?

you probably do not realise that before the advent of islam, arabs in the middle east buried their daughters alive.this was one of the first things adressed by prophet Muhammed (SAW)

furthermore Prophet Muhammed SAW first wife was Khadijat.i wonder how , in the course of the meticulous, one sided, 'research' the original poster did not find that Khadijat made the first move. also, that at the time, Muhammed (SAW) was employed by Khadijat.Muslims are enjoinened to follow the lifestyle of Prophet Muhammed. how can a man who is pursued by, and marries a wealthier  woman, be incompatible with the 'fundamental rights of women and inequality?

oyb (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #62 on: March 21, 2007, 11:40 AM »

Quote from: babyosisi on March 20, 2007, 08:11 PM
oyb,I will not degenerate into talks on your family,wives ,girlfriends or concubines.
You as a person are inconsequential to me.
I barely present a truth that many have found out.
If aisha was 25 when Muhammad slept with her excellent,the mere fact that a hadith by her own words places her as a child of 6 should concern everyone who loves children.he said she was plying with her dolls and her friends.
Teenage girls do not play with dolls.

We've had a Muslim here tell us Mo and his gang also obtained consent to rape the girls whose husbands they killed in wars,the ones their right hand obtained and I know that there are tons of women waiting to jump in bed with their husbands murderers.(in your dreams)
What a sick way of reasoning.



this must be the free speech you keep beefing about.the freedom to engage in dubious journalism/'research', referncing only one side of a controversial topic.

let me tell you about another dream

this fellow saw all sorts of people being punished for their sins in this world.i´ve forgotten most of it.
anyway, he came across this dude, who had a big hook in his mouth. the hook was yanked and half his face torn away.it immediately healed.and the hook was placed  there again, the process continued.the narrator asked what did this man do ? and he was told.this man told lies that went around the world.kind of like you. when i was younger, i read somewhere that lying is worse than drinking.i never did understand it until i grew older. the kind of lies propagated by your ilk, and spread around the world,

you are alsmost as bad as some of your kinsmen over here(this one na original! Confirmed! Authe!)

People like you make me sick.


ps do you know of any culture in human history that did not take liberties with female slaves? even the bastion of democracy and free specch where you currently reside. (sally Jennings, anyone?).


oyb (m)
Re: Was Mohamed A Pedophile ?
« #63 on: March 21, 2007, 05:31 PM »

also,
i have searched for evidence of dolls as toys in  arabia at that time. i haven't been able to find anything on the use of dolls as toys by girls in ancient arabia.

maybe you can help me out?
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