Resolution?: Nah! Typical Nigerian Attitude. Seen It All Before

For the past 4-5 days everyone knows what has happened in this Section of the forum (There's no need to go though it all over again). I specifically chose not to wade in. Lots of emotion. Tensions running at a boiling point i can feel it all the way from here.

Regardless of where you stand on this issue, the general concesus has be overwhelmingly in proving VIN for listed vehicles on sale here. YOU LOCK THE DOOR OF YOUR HOUSE NOT NECESSARILY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE THE INTENTION OF BREAKING IN BUT ALSO FOR THOSE WHO WILL TAKE YOUR THINGS EVEN WITHOUT ANY PREFORMED INTENTION. In other words, keep the honest people honest.

I think every participant to this issue here (The Accuser and the Accused) all have (in my opinion) at one time or the other misuse the trust and priviledge bestowed upon them. The rest of us only got to find out when the going got rough.

This is in a way NIGERIA in a small context. The question we will have is that: Will business be as usual? I think the people have spoken. That is DEMOCRACY in a small way.

As much noise that was made in the last few days, SEUN has matched it with a deafning silence. I am truly dumbfounded. I am not sure whether he's doing some fact finding or so but at the moment he should require all new posting henceforth to be listed with VIN regardless of the year.

I am very saddened that this is a typical Nigerian factor/attitude. Even after we all agree on the problem and overwhelmingly on the solution. Theres still a lot of foot dragging going on. At least as i write now.

Sorry to break this to you. Canada has always been little step brother to the US. Around here in the US as far as i know. VIN has to be listed by dealer. Someday I'm sure Canada will grow up and be just like the big brother. Someday it will come.

Whatever a car history is, it is paramount that VIN be provided for the customer to make a decision.

It might surprise you to know that in Canada, there is something called the OMVIC and if you know enough about dealership in Canada, you will know what OMVIC stands for, so this makes it easier for people that loses money to dealers to go and complain and some of the times cld get their money back, however, in Nigeria, people are arrested buying rides that were stolen from Canada and USA, who would blame, the buyers, the sellers or the govt?
My guy, we need to support what is right and that will be to stop the sales of stolen vehicles, because the buyers are the one being punished for it.
In Canada, before you buy a car from personal sales, you could call the ministry of transportation, and giving them the VIN Number, you will be able to get all the facts on the vehicles and you could make your decisions based on that, but mind you, Nigeria don't have such system.
This is a forum that sellers and buyers are trying to keep it clean, and i see no big deal in displaying the VIN of the ride.

@Ivvie
What a very sound contribution!

@Fhemmmy
There is nothing to be surprised about OMVIC. I am a registered dealer with OMVIC (Ontario Motor Vehicle Industry Council). Please go to OMVIC site, www.omvic.on.ca under SERVICES, click Dealers/Salesperson, under Registration, click Dealer and Salesperson Search then enter my dealership name Bellin International. Check my former post http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-157191.0.html and compare my phone number and corresponding email of my dealership name.
OMVIC stands for Honesty,Integrity and financial responsibilty. The act governing OMVIC requires that a dealer must disclose all material facts about damage of the vehicle to the customer, this includes what a dealer knows or what he should know about the vehicle. You can see that in my above post, I disclosed a material fact and none of the 1352 viewers/buyers asked for vin number (Only $$$ Rhino identified what a dealer should be).
The enforcement officers at the ports and border should be blamed for stolen vehicles. Listing vin numbers for you to check at CARFAX, CARPROOF, AUTOCHECK etc will only tell you about a vehicle that was reported stolen but not re-vin stolen vehicle. My brother, I do not want to dwell on the other side of vin number vis-a-vis stolen vehicle. But bear in mind that the vin number you're requesting for will only tell you the reported history of a vehicle  -  a dealer should be able to tell you what he knows about the present condition of a vehicle.

@ Fhemmmy

There are people who give free VIN check on this forum. Its just a buyer's safeguard. Thats all.

@Siga, records of accident are not obtained primarily from insurance companies. They are mostly obtained from vehicle repair shops and dealerships (which normally have repair and collision dept.). It is only when you go to roadside repairers that records could be missed - who wants to do this and how much do you gain or save by going to roadside guys?)

I so much beg to differ sir.
I remember when i had my car broken in to, and i called the insurance, after talking about y deductible, i realize was better for me to fix by self and never reported it, my guy, it never came on the carfax, and you know why? because most time, people go to the least expensive, expect when you go to dealers and the sophisticated coys, it will be go unreported.

Further more, it is not all repair or maintenance that are reported, many are done by in-law and uncle at "double garage" workshop, and they all go unreported.

i am not talking about people on NL, i am talking about mama aja in abule egba that want to buy a benz and have never seen a computer before, how is VIN check on NL going to be of help to her, or baba tunde in oshodi.

Siga, they are all talking like we live in a perfect world.
Even in USA and Canada, people do declare wrong odometer, especially knowing fully well that, the sales of vehicle is driven by the mile driven.

Ziontrain,  Fhemmy is not saying VIN is not a good idea it is, but, there some things that VIn can't carry,  but generally, make all man dey provide VIN.

This is how it works. Everytime you go for repair at a big dealership, your mileage will be recorded. Even if you don't go to big dealership, your vehicle's registration will have to be renewd yearly. You will be required to do something similar to "road worthiness" or "emission test" to know that your car is not polluting etc and its fit to be on the road.

The govt approved station that conducts the test will record your mileage. CARFAX collect all these data to compile their list.

If you do an emission test a year after you bought the car and its like lets say 52k miles. Then you sold it thereafter. Someone bought it and roll it back to lets say 32k miles. The next time the data is collected (from emission test or so) CARFAX will "flag" that mileage reading. Understand?

Another good source of data is insurance. The keep track when you insure your vehicle. If you have a full coverage. A physical inspection will be done to record the mileage. So if you crash the car and its a total loss, the insurance will pay you based on the mileage of the vehicle.

so you don't have to report anything. It will be tracked. This no be Naija 

My pleasure. This is the purpose of a forum. Each one teach one

You are great guy, all the ziontrain was saying that, there is a special system that records the mileage and that is my arguement with him, that is it being reported, when you go to fix your ride, you ave your ride checked and the mileage is checked, all i am telling the dude is that anything that involves human being has the tendency of being tampered with.

@Ziontrain, i am so much into auto with all its protocols, don't just come here and tell people that one system records, oga i beg oh, i resides in the western world too.
Promise, thanx my guy.

@Siena, i am so much in favour of VIN revelation.

Nice dialogue though and Mr Zion, you know u my dawg anytime, but still gotta dig that out with ya.

One love still.