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Orikinla (m)
Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« on: July 17, 2006, 04:23 PM »

Ibo tribalists have been attacking me since I refused to join or support their tribalist agenda called MASSOB.

Here is the latest verbal attack from one of them. I would have given him my special Zinedine  Zidane Head-Butt if he had the guts to confront me physically. Grin

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Joker personified, you pseudo- apologetic-nincompoopious Nigerian oligarchist, grow up and open your eyes! writer! What do you call yourself? Orikinla Osinachi? Your mother, that Yoruba tribalist must have well brought you up in the normal, igbo-hating, igbo-despising, 'nothing-good-from-the-Igbos' mental attitude and jealousy, and stuffed you with lies, as usual. I used to be a detribalised person until I severally saw hell in the hands of so called yoruba friend countless times, they can and will stab you in the back anytime, speak their language even when the know you don't understand them, and hate when you speak yours in return,  parapo is their names when it comes to dealing with an Igbo (HEBREW) man of which I am proud to be! Sellouts most if not all of them!It's in their blood!
buchio7 (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #1 on: July 17, 2006, 10:41 PM »

ol'boy ibo no loose anything if u waka, !!!!!
Orikinla (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #2 on: July 19, 2006, 09:49 PM »

Lest you forget, I am the David of my generation.


Nigeria is the best place for us.

Ibos should not be cowards by leaving Nigeria. But to overcome the challenges and build a new Nigeria in the leadership of Africa in the comity of nations.

I am against tribalism, racism, nepotism, sectarianism and even "Iboism".

With God all things are possible.
Chxta (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #3 on: July 21, 2006, 06:45 PM »

LNG boy there is nothing new in what you are experiencing. My travails on this forum are well documented. And someone even had the time to locate my phone number once in order to tell me not to go near Onitsha. . .
Skidoc (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #4 on: July 21, 2006, 07:43 PM »

Was that sent to your email? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #5 on: July 22, 2006, 04:00 AM »


Quote from: Orikinla on July 19, 2006, 09:49 PM
Lest you forget, I am the David of my generation.


Nigeria is the best place for us.

Ibos should not be cowards by leaving Nigeria. But to overcome the challenges and build a new Nigeria in the leadership of Africa in the comity of nations.

I am against tribalism, racism, nepotism, sectarianism and even "Iboism".

With God all things are possible.

Quote from: Chxta on July 21, 2006, 06:45 PM
LNG boy there is nothing new in what you are experiencing. My travails on this forum are well documented. And someone even had the time to locate my phone number once in order to tell me not to go near Onitsha. . .

Birds of the same feather,  why am I not sure if you are really IBO, you both can take a hike.
Chxta (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #6 on: July 22, 2006, 10:28 AM »

@ NINETOFIVE, instead of living in denial, why don't you respond to the following in a thread which you started. . .

Quote from: Chxta on July 21, 2006, 06:40 PM
@ NINETOFIVE, I think the problem with Igbos as a people is individualism. How else can you explain a lot of Igbos getting into the Army with Northern names back in the 1950s and 60s?

On the average, we tend to look more towards the success of the individual than the success of the collective. It has always been so and if you read through Things Fall Apart, you will see that it has been so since time immemorial. . .

The British had to reinstate Ovonmwaren's son because no Bini man agreed to rule as Oba while the rightful heir was alive. In Igboland, they managed to get a lot of warrant chiefs installed!

On a more bizarre and personal note, a colleague of mine here at my office whose name is Onyekachi would rather die than accept that she's Igbo. She comes from Benue State (I saw her CV), but I don't know the name of her hometown. I assume it must be one of those border towns less than 20km from Nsukka. One day I was speaking Igbo with another colleague of mine (a conversation about oto ndi umu nwanyi), and from her reaction, she understood everything. Her surname (which I wouldn't divulge here) is also very Igbo, but then I digress. . .

Our own arrogance as a people also drives this seeming disunity. As a student back in UNIBEN, I know of Delta indigenes who were refused Ohaneze membership because they aren't authentic Igbo.

In politics we tend to be the ones who mess ourselves up.

I would be pleasantly surprised if the entire Igbo sub nation can produce just one person to run for president of Nigeria next year, but I sincerely doubt that this would happen. Our track record so far since 1999 heavily points otherwise. . .

I am probably prouder of my roots than you, the fact that I don't fail to see what is wrong with our people (hell, I also point out where Naija is going wrong too!) doesn't make me any less of an Igbo man than you are.
Orikinla (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #7 on: July 22, 2006, 02:55 PM »

The "Iboist" that sent me the hate-mail did so in ignorance. Because he mistook my username for my real identity by thinking that I am half Yoruba and half Ibo. My mother and father came from Umuahia. And I was a refugee child in Biafra. My mother was left alone to take care of us on her own during the bloodiest civil war in Africa from 1967 to 1970. My father was on the Federal side working in Lagos. He fought in World War 2 and knew that Biafra would be defeated. My parents lost three children. My father lost his younger brother, cousins and relatives and my mother lost her younger brother and others in the Nigerian civil war.

Anyone who thinks he is more Ibo than me is an ignorant fool.

I don't believe in Biafra or in the illusions of grandeur that Ibos are one of the lost tribes of Israel.

I am a Nigerian and I thank God for that and as most people know I fly the Nigerian flag proudly on my Nigerian Times blog and I have no apologies or regrets for being a proud Nigeria.

God bless Nigeria!   


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buchio7 (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #8 on: July 23, 2006, 01:26 PM »

bros no b fight now!!!!! i share ur loss most of d ibos have had losses too as a result of d civil war, but 2day is d issue and what is that issue? for d ibos to progress we must dissolve all d hindrances that have kept us down . Hw? by uniting like never before and ostracising animals like uba,iwuanyanwu,irukwu e.t.c who pose as ibo leaders but sell d ibo agenda 4 contracts n front seat positions in conventions.
retro (f)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #9 on: July 23, 2006, 04:40 PM »

Quote from: Orikinla on July 22, 2006, 02:55 PM
The "Iboist"

Quote from: Orikinla on July 19, 2006, 09:49 PM
I am against tribalism, racism, nepotism, sectarianism and even "Iboism".

LMFAO! Hahahahahaha!
Nutter (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #10 on: July 24, 2006, 03:26 AM »

Quote from: Chxta on July 22, 2006, 10:28 AM
@ NINETOFIVE, instead of living in denial, why don't you respond to the following in a thread which you started. . .

How about my numerous questions which you have left unanswered on the threads you started?
Chxta (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #11 on: July 24, 2006, 09:09 AM »

I believe I have answered all questions you have ever posed me. That you are never satisfied with my answers is because you are not ammenable to the concept of a united Nigeria.

That my friend, is your problem, not mine.
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #12 on: July 24, 2006, 01:15 PM »

To Chxta

I 've answered you questions, you would need to get back to the thread in question to investigate this.


To Orikinla


If you are an IBO then am a RUSSIAN, since I don't know any IBO person with low self esteem you are definitely not, you don't come across as a very intelligent person [I don't mean to be rude], at least if you want to inpersonate, you would have changed the name, so OMO LO JOKO SILE TO DIRTY, MI O NI TIME FUN OMO OLOLOSHI, DAKUN  GBE IGBE RE KORO NBI BAYI.
bluenubian (f)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #13 on: July 24, 2006, 01:24 PM »

@orinkinla
you had the guts to come up here and post this crap!!! Angry Angry Angry Angry, what do u want from us huh?, to pet u on the head and say sorry!!,  Fight your own battles, cause as far as am concerned, u probably made up this quote for whatever reason. The fact that you made up this quote or some ibo guy sent it to u (like u claim), does not change anything about igbos Ok, so please handle ur own vendettas and keep the igbo name out of your mouth since it seems you are not proud to be one of us
Nutter (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #14 on: July 24, 2006, 02:19 PM »

Quote from: Chxta on July 24, 2006, 09:09 AM
I believe I have answered all questions you have ever posed me. That you are never satisfied with my answers is because you are not ammenable to the concept of a united Nigeria.

That my friend, is your problem, not mine.

1. The correct spelling is amenable. Gosh, you are really bad at this spelling thingy after all. This is the third spelling mistake I have identified today alone. I gave you a chance to apologise to the brother you were targeting but you were secure in your spelling ability. How forlorn you must feel now that it has been revealed that you hurl your rocks from a glasshouse. Perhaps next time you wouldn’t be in such a rush to ‘correct’ others. Tisha, don’t tish us nonsense.

2. No, you have not answered many of my questions, actually. One example is the Igbo Summit which you dredged-up in support of your shifting position; AFTER you shot it down when I introduced it. I asked you about that several times but I am yet to get an answer. If I were to scour the threads I'D be able to get into greater specifics on your duck-and-run tactics. Before I do that, can you please provide me with an answer or, at the very least, point me to where you made an attempt to answer that particular question? Much appreciated.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #15 on: July 24, 2006, 02:37 PM »

Please everybody stop calling yourself Yoruba tribe or Ibo tribe or the even bigger lie: Ethnicity's.

Calling them tribes is too damn good for them.

Call them gangs, that is all they are.

Then put an end to the gang violence of Africa.
Nutter (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #16 on: July 24, 2006, 02:56 PM »

What are you on about, Drusilla??
Drusilla (f)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #17 on: July 24, 2006, 03:17 PM »

Nutter,

I'se tired now.

I think we are going to have to face the fact that our African anscestors were tribe members and the only thing that exist in Africa that very slightly resembles the tribes of ancient times is a useless skeleton of gangs that is more of an albatross around the African neck, than a benefit that our anscestors intended.

A modern African trying to claim some relationship to the ancient tribes of our African anscestors, is telling a lie. A big one.

Let me give you a couple of examples:

Shaka Zulu devastated nearby tribes and took soldiers and women from those tribes. Do you really believe that the modern people of the tribe named Zulu, are Zulu's by blood?

No, their Zulu by some fiction whereby they have been saying their Zulu for years.

The same is true in Nigeria. Where now historians just from the white era can tell you how a lot of the tribes of Nigeria, are actually the descendants of Yourba's. Branches that broke off during white rule.

So what do these distortions that I am Yoruba or I am Zulu and you are Ibo really mean?

Absolutely nothing. Their meaningless. Their gangs. The crips and the bloods now. And they sit around fighting like teenage members.

You put on a purple shirt and have a big pow wow on tuesday, the next gang over puts on a yellow shirt and has a big pow wow thursday.

Big deal.

This is not culture nor is it African culture.
Nutter (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #18 on: July 24, 2006, 03:42 PM »

Drusilla,

It is extremely disrespectful of you to refer to groups which are several million strong as tribes, let alone mere gangs. It is extremely disrespectful of you to state that whole peoples with articulately defined cultures, beliefs and values (dating back to long before there was any knowledge of the Whiteman) are no better than gangs in your America.

If those who currently constitute the Zulu nation are a result of mixed marriages and/or wars, how does that translate to your reference of the whole Zulu people as a gang? Are you alright?

You state that what we have is NOT culture – let alone African culture. What is it then?

I take great exception at your comparison of my ethnic group (and that of others) to the bloods and the crips. Great exception. On the basis of your post, I find it exceptionally difficult to draw even a thin grey line between you and the white people you are always so quick to condemn.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #19 on: July 24, 2006, 04:21 PM »

Nutter,

Can African culture be purchased at the store?

Can I purchase an African dress and an African mask and declare myself to be African?

Can I eat African food and declare myself to be African?

Is that what culture is? Something you can buy at Walmart or Kmart and Target?

Maybe if they sell African culture at Macy's, it makes it really African if it is expensive?

Is that what African culture is, something you eat, something you wear, something you buy?

Maybe we should pass out hand books and tell people,if you want to be part of the Ibo tribe, or Zulu tribe or Xhosa tribe here are the well articulated beliefs and values of African cultures.

A purple shirt on tuesday, a red paint for the funeral for the dead, and we sing this song after we drink.

Anybody who follows these rules is Ibo or Zulu!

Maybe African culture is genetic racism: A belief that something in our blood makes us different from those black people over there. Gee, our nose is thinner and their hips are wider, and we are taller.

Maybe we should tell our kids terrible lies like: Yoruba's are slutty and Ibo's are thieves and this makes us very different from them black people over there.

Exactly what do you expect me to recognize as culture or African culture? In all of this mess presented here?

The only true difference I see between all of you well defined articulated beliefs and values is the same difference between any American gang:

Geography:

East coast, West coast, This is our hood, this is our block.

This is not African culture.
Nutter (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #20 on: July 24, 2006, 04:33 PM »

You are yet to answer my questions, Drusilla. You are just rambling on. Address those questions. Allow us to drink from what you believe is your fountain of knowledge. My throat is parched. I can hardly wait.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #21 on: July 24, 2006, 04:51 PM »

Nutter,

African Culture:

The truly universal language of the world is it's beat, it's pulse, it's music.

Scientists have found that even the universe is NOISY. Although it may appear to us when we look up from the sky, that the universe is a place of stars and darkness and silence.

In fact scientists have found that the universe is making all kinds of noise. It is making it's own music. It has a sound.

And as you know on earth, everything from the minutest insect to the birds above, to the whales in the ocean, to the wind, the trees, EVERYTHING.

Is making music. Music is the universal language.

As the whiteman said upon arriving to the coast of Africa: These people are the most naturally musical people in the world.

It's not one musical style, that defines us.

It is the fact that our music drops bombs every where it goes.

If it hits South America as slaves, it comes back as Latin Music today.

If it hits America as slaves, it comes back as the mostly widely listened to music in the world.

If it hits Europe, it produces Beethoven.

If it hits the farms of the south, white boys will be proud of picking the Banjo for centuries (african instrument).

If it hits India -- the same.

My point is that it is not the type of music, it is the Spiritual aspect that is important.

What you can not see and feel that Blacks are very good at translating. We are in rhythm with the whole universe.

Where other cultures don't seem to have that ability to communicate with the universe.

And they even recognize it in US, that we do. This is why they know that we have SOUL and they themselves are SOULLESS.

My point is this, the music comes from something WITHIN US, that is UNSEEN.

That which is unseen is the culture.

The outcomes -- Rap, Latin Music, the Beats, Opera, Classical, etc.

Are the seen but NOT THE CULTURE.   

The unseen -- is the reason black people know in our heart of hearts that the idea that you are better than me is utterly ridicolous since we are one.

The unseen -- when others come around black folks they get it, and they know it, even when we talk badly to them, they know it is not in our power to remove them from the cloth that has weaved them in. So thus they can stay and be called a white girl but they can stay.

There is no way for us to be selfish about it, it desires to be shared. And this is why once they go black, they never go back. Nobody who has experienced it, can ever leave it for good.

Nobody who knows about it, can then work in a different culture without feeling the loss of it.

We all bow our heads to it. We all want desparately for folks to see it and realize they only hurt themselves by being mean to it and trying to destroy it.

That is our Black culture.
Nutter (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #22 on: July 24, 2006, 05:31 PM »

Drusilla,

I do not see anything about the questions I asked that even remotely relates to what you posted. You have highlighted the influence of African music in other parts of the world. Good. How do you reconcile this pacesetting trend of Africa and Africans with your comparison of African nation states to the Bloods and the Crips? What are you on about exactly? I completely fail to see your point - even though I tried very, very hard. Please answer my questions. I shall restate them just so there is no further confusion:


If those who currently constitute the Zulu nation are a result of mixed marriages and/or wars, how does that translate to your reference of the whole Zulu people as a gang?

You state that what we have is NOT culture – let alone African culture. What is it then?

Are you alright?



I am still waiting.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #23 on: July 24, 2006, 05:52 PM »

Nutter,

Yes, I am alright now. Feeling much better. Thank you for asking.

I gave up the caffiene recently and it is making me wake up with headaches and feeling tired (no pep me up caffiene for me), so I have been a little more tense.

Just say no to drugs.

How are you?
mrmayor (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #24 on: July 24, 2006, 06:11 PM »

Drusilla,Drusilla,

If inter-marriages reduces a person's right to claim any tribe as home why then do you claim to be black you being mixed raced?
Some tribes from Africa,Asia,South America you name it have grown bigger because they have absorbed small tribes in and around them.while the smaller ones have all but disappeared.
Your logic would state that the Spanish are not really Spanish because at a time coastal Spain was controlled by Arabs,therefore the conquest of the Americas is actually an Arab conquest.
Rhodalyn (f)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #25 on: July 24, 2006, 06:17 PM »

Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me! - they Should Stop wasting their tyme attacking ya and kill U instead Angry
Nutter (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #26 on: July 24, 2006, 06:22 PM »

Quote from: Drusilla on July 24, 2006, 05:52 PM
Nutter,

Yes, I am alright now. Feeling much better. Thank you for asking.

I gave up the caffiene recently and it is making me wake up with headaches and feeling tired (no pep me up caffiene for me), so I have been a little more tense.

Just say no to drugs.

How are you?

I'm doing great, Drusilla - thanks.

Now that we are done with the pleasantries, when exactly are you going to proceed with answering my questions? Mrmayor has posed a few more. Please provide answers or retract your earlier patronising statements!
Drusilla (f)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #27 on: July 24, 2006, 07:26 PM »

mrmayor,

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If inter-marriages reduces a person's right to claim any tribe as home why then do you claim to be black you being mixed raced?

Your missing the point. I am claiming that the idea of tribes and tribal membership in Africa.

It's dead. It died out with our ancients.

There are no tribe members, in otherwords, because of the great distortions and change that have unfolded in Africa. We are only playing at being a member of this or that tribe.

There is no religious, land, blood reason for this tribal mess to continue. We are too mixed up now. This was my point about having Zulu and a nearby tribes blood.

All that is really happening now, is whites have taught the people in Africa to fight over goods and cash based on their ethnic group.

i.e. the same way that a gang members used to fight over their block, because that means their gang can control the money for that area.

Read this: http://www.africaaction.org/bp/ethall.htm

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Some tribes from Africa,Asia,South America you name it have grown bigger because they have absorbed small tribes in and around them.while the smaller ones have all but disappeared.

Good idea. Let's all just quit our little small tribe and join the big tribe.

I suggest that the name of this bigger tribe the smaller tribes shall be absorbed into shall be called Black People or Africans, whatever you prefer.

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Your logic would state that the Spanish are not really Spanish because at a time coastal Spain was controlled by Arabs,therefore the conquest of the Americas is actually an Arab conquest.

LOL Mrmayor, you must in fact know that this is ALREADY being claimed by Muslims. Not Arabs but Muslims. So I take it you are being funny? You can put Muslims conquering the America's into your search engine right now.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #28 on: July 24, 2006, 07:40 PM »

Nutter,

"I'se tired now" is an ebonic expression, that means:

I apologise before hand for the mean things I am about to say.

I only say them because "I'se tired now" and do not have the energy to be nice about it.

I actually in my Ebonic way apologized before I made my statements. But you may continue waiting for a second apology if you like.

If you keep throwing a hissy fit, I may offer a second one.

hehehehehehehehehehe
Nutter (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #29 on: July 24, 2006, 11:21 PM »

Quote from: Drusilla on July 24, 2006, 07:26 PM

All that is really happening now, is whites have taught the people in Africa to fight over goods and cash based on their ethnic group.

I suggest that the name of this bigger tribe the smaller tribes shall be absorbed into shall be called Black People or Africans, whatever you prefer.

Your reasoning is flawed in many respects. The denial of our very nature, our identity, will do nothing but help those wanting to sow the seeds of discord among the many, great people of Africa! You have all the worrying attributes of these neo-colonialists. It will thus be ill-advised to take your advice!

Quote from: Drusilla on July 24, 2006, 07:40 PM
Nutter,

"I'se tired now" is an ebonic expression, that means:

I apologise before hand for the mean things I am about to say.

I only say them because "I'se tired now" and do not have the energy to be nice about it.

I actually in my Ebonic way apologized before I made my statements. But you may continue waiting for a second apology if you like.

If you keep throwing a hissy fit, I may offer a second one.

hehehehehehehehehehe

1. It matters little to me whether you choose to be nice or not. I am ONLY concerned with the truth being told.

2. You still haven’t answered my questions.

3. I care very little for an Ebonic apology at this point. Your condescending statements were made in plain English. It follows therefore that you make your apologies in the same manner. Yes, the people of Africa deserve an unreserved apology, tendered in the plainest English you can bring yourself to muster.

4. How dare you laugh? This is all a big joke to you, isn’t it? Well, it isn’t to me. I was trying to be calm about it all but your laughter has just set me off. I cannot see the ‘funny’ side when my very roots are equated to gangster life on the many graffiti-defaced, pee-lined street corners of the United States. The minute you made those statements, you were treading very dangerous ground. Your sorry situation has just been compounded by your lackadaisical attitude.

Up until your comparison, I was of the opinion that you were quite clever. Some have alluded to this fact even though I was, as yet, not confronted with the fallouts of your intellect – or lack thereof. I however have to state, quite clearly, that your analysis/portrayal/comparison is the most ignorant piece of convoluted thinking that I have ever had the displeasure of reading since the last time I visited a pro-Nazi site. You either have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about, or you have simply been masquerading in the garb of a black freedom fighter, with the ultimate goal of infiltrating our ranks and finding the most opportune moment to spew your tired, racist rhetoric. Either way, you leave quite a lot to be desired. It seems to me that your condescending attitude towards the people of Africa stems from an extraordinarily patronising aptitude which rests below the deepest layer of prehistoric crudity. You remind me of the ignorant Europeans and Americans who have a simplistic view of all things African. One would have thought you’d know better.

This has been an utter waste of my time. Sometimes I wonder why I bother.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #30 on: July 24, 2006, 11:39 PM »

Nutter,

LOL It's okay. It will come to you.

I am about to go to dinner (the free church soup kitchen, I'm too dang lazy to cook today).

Ouu_____I just thought of something. That other church always has dinners on the next to last monday of the month and they be serving some good food.

I think we will go to that one.  Cheesy

Have a nice evening.
mrmayor (m)
Re: Ibo Tribalists Are Attacking Me!
« #31 on: July 24, 2006, 11:56 PM »

Drusilla,

You don't live in an African reality,I live in a big tribe called NIGERIA within this big tribe there smaller ones with different languages,customs,foods.
If in a geographical expression called Nigeria how would you describe over a 100million people with over 250 languages,customs,gods.
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