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toshmann (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #64 on: July 18, 2006, 09:35 PM »

interesting
soulpatrol (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #65 on: July 18, 2006, 09:37 PM »

damn, that was some tight and true $hit! I'm so proud to be a black woman!!!all the madness we try to overcome each day i wonder how white women would have coped with it!
toshmann (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #66 on: July 18, 2006, 09:38 PM »

history has it that black people (man and woman) have to cope with a lot of pressure under which the average white man will commit suicide
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #67 on: July 18, 2006, 09:39 PM »

I know. black women go through some real sufferings in life.
to be female and black is not easy. It's even harder when the black guys try to bring their females down.
soulpatrol (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #68 on: July 18, 2006, 09:41 PM »

true talk. true talk. its really 2 strikes against us. being black and being a female. we've suffered so much but the good lord has given us the strength to forge ahead amidst all the obstacles. even with our daily struggles, you don't find the black people running to psychiatrists/councellors, its the other way round. isnt that just funny?
davidylan (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #69 on: July 18, 2006, 09:42 PM »

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If this were not so, then why do you continuously go to tanning salons to darkenyour skin? If you are so proud to be white, then why don't you just be happy with your pale skin? Why do you continue to inject your lips, hips, and breasts with unnatural and dangerous substances so you can look fu ller and more voluptuous? I think that your anger is really a result of you wanting to have what the black woman has. BOTTOM LINE: If I were looking for a docile woman, someone I can walk over and control, I would give you a call. But, unfortunately, I am looking for a Virtuous Woman. Someone that can be a good wife and mother to my children. Someone who can be my best friend and understands my struggles. I am looking for a soul mate.


Yes ma, i am indeed looking for a woman who would respect and honor me as the head of the home. I am looking for a woman who does not think it beneath her to play the role of a wife, mother and helpmeet. If that is what it means to be docile, then so be it!
And who said white girls cannot be a good wife and mother to my children? My present date is a sunday school teacher and she's excellent with kids that are not even her own.
Is being a best friend and being understanding the sole preserve of the black woman? I think not. Is being a virtous woman the same as dropping out of school, dressing like a tramp, loud and aggressive behavior, inability to submit to authority and playing hard to get?

Are all white women cosmetic dolls? Is it not 99% of all black women who use all sorts of chemicals and wigs just to make their hair look like that of the white woman's? Are black women the sole purveyors of being soul mates? I think not.

you my friend have yet to make a valid point.
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #70 on: July 18, 2006, 09:42 PM »

Quote from: toshmann on July 18, 2006, 09:38 PM
history has it that black people (man and woman) have to cope with a lot of pressure under which the average white man will commit suicide

true talk

". . . . with a group of academics and healthcare professionals about the fact that black women have among the lowest suicide rates in the country -- one-third that of white women, according to a 2003 University of North Carolina study. Asked why, I began to wax rhapsodic about the grounding that spirituality gives, the grace that hardship brings and that serene majesty that often settles in on black women of a certain age.

Point being, black women are the strength and succor of their community. They are the last line of defense."
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/living/columnists/leonard_pitts/14670931.htm

mrmayor (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #71 on: July 18, 2006, 09:47 PM »

WesleyanA,

I have read you article and its nothing new,I don't know any black celebrities but the issues remains the same.Why is there a high rate of successful black men getting in bed with blondes?The only reason I could think off is lack of low self esteem or the desire to be accepted by the media.
Successful Asians are always married to Asian women but what is the problems with black men?I think its the remnant of the salve era when black men have desired the pearly,blue eyed daughter of the slave master.
It could also be that white women actively pursue that successful black male,he is the exotic male with the big Di-Ck who knows?I think black men have to look in wards as why they find the single white female exquisite immediately they become successful
toshmann (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #72 on: July 18, 2006, 09:48 PM »

methinks there's no point making color sensitive statements here. the issue is that our sisters have good qualities(just as some white women too. my girl friend is so nice)but our sisters make it hard for us to have them while the whiteys "snatch" all the brothars away.

imagine a reply i got from a sister when i asked her why she does this hard to get stuff, she said, any man that does not have guts should not come near me. imagine. yet when this guttless man goes to a whitey she gets annoyed and suddenly realises that the guttless man is very valuable
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #73 on: July 18, 2006, 09:51 PM »

Quote from: davidylan on July 18, 2006, 09:42 PM
Yes ma, i am indeed looking for a woman who would respect and honor me as the head of the home. I am looking for a woman who does not think it beneath her to play the role of a wife, mother and helpmeet. If that is what it means to be docile, then so be it!
And who said white girls cannot be a good wife and mother to my children? My present date is a sunday school teacher and she's excellent with kids that are not even her own.
Is being a best friend and being understanding the sole preserve of the black woman? I think not. Is being a virtous woman the same as dropping out of school, dressing like a tramp, loud and aggressive behavior, inability to submit to authority and playing hard to get?

Are all white women cosmetic dolls? Is it not 99% of all black women who use all sorts of chemicals and wigs just to make their hair look like that of the white woman's? Are black women the sole purveyors of being soul mates? I think not.

you my friend have yet to make a valid point.

I didn't write the article. It was a responce of an angered black male to the white lady's remarks.
He is true to his community and that's what I respect although some of his words are generalizations (and so are yours that black women are tramps)
If you're ashamed to be black, that's none of my business.
I know there are plenty problems facing the black female kind. But guess what? There are also tons of stuff facing the black male kind.
what have you got to say about the drop out rate of black guys. mind you it is considerable HIGHER than that of black females!
let's not even talk about percentage that ends up in jail.

He's not the only one who made a comment. i'll post more for you to see.


I would certainly consider it as "settling for less" to marry a black man who thinks he's doing me a favor for taking me over the "better" white lady.
I know i don't have to rely on any man to feed me.
I wouldn't be surprised if domestic violence was common more often in black homes. The black men feel they are king and can do what ever to their female folds but will lick the white women's feet.  Undecided
But then I know that not all black guys are like that as you read.
davidylan (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #74 on: July 18, 2006, 09:53 PM »

Toshman has said it all.
I would gladly have dated many a black women but most of them are so hard to break down its almost like you have to beg before they even agree to talk to you. White women are no gods that black men want to kill themselves over, if i had my way i'D rather be back home where i wont even remember my skin color and happily married to fellow nigerians. But it would be wrong to assume that everyone who dates white women only does it because they feel inferior (inferior to what?) or because there are no good blak women out there. White women as much as black men also love too and sometimes love goes beyond the simple color of your skin to the color of your heart!

between having dated both white and black, i can conclude that deep down away from all the prying eyes of the society, there is no distinct difference between the 2, at heart they are all just female.
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #75 on: July 18, 2006, 09:54 PM »

Quote from: toshmann on July 18, 2006, 09:48 PM
. yet when this guttless man goes to a whitey she gets annoyed and suddenly realises that the guttless man is very valuable

black men gets anoyed when black females go out with white men too. Undecided
so that goes both ways.

so yes there are good and bad black women
just as there are good and bad white women.
I have a relative who's currently married to a white woman and all he does is complain when he comes to visit. I'm not saying he's in a bad relationship but. . . race isn't what dictates good and bad.
toshmann (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #76 on: July 18, 2006, 09:57 PM »

Quote from: WesleyanA on July 18, 2006, 09:51 PM
But then I know that not all black guys are like that as you read.

point

Quote from: davidylan on July 18, 2006, 09:53 PM
between having dated both white and black, i can conclude that deep down away from all the prying eyes of the society, there is no distinct difference between the 2, at heart they are all just female.

i disagree here. no disrespect, but the whites are very liberal with guys.  i may be wrong, i've only dated my whitey for 1 month
davidylan (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #77 on: July 18, 2006, 09:58 PM »

Quote from: WesleyanA on July 18, 2006, 09:51 PM
I didn't write the article. It was a responce of an angered black male to the white lady's remarks.
He is true to his community and that's what I respect although some of his words are generalizations (and so are yours that black women are tramps)
If you're ashamed to be black, that's none of my business.
I know there are plenty problems facing the black female kind. But guess what? There are also tons of stuff facing the black male kind.
what have you got to say about the drop out rate of black guys. mind you it is considerable HIGHER than that of black females!
let's not even talk about percentage that ends up in jail.


He's not the only one who made a comment. i'll post more for you to see.


I would certainly consider it as "settling for less" to marry a black man who thinks he's doing me a favor for taking me over the "better" white lady.
I know i don't have to rely on any man to feed me.
I wouldn't be surprised if domestic violence was common more often in black homes. The black men feel they are king and can do what ever to their female folds but will lick the white women's feet.  Undecided
But then I know that not all black guys are like that as you read.

Let's stop generalising here, it is not a case of being "ashamed of being black". its so easy for those on the other side on the divide to assume that because you date a white you are immediately seen as feeling inferior or ashamed of your color. Sometimes a lot of people forget that it is possible to actually love someone across the other side of the divide. I am not ashamed of my color nor my roots, any girl white or black is very aware of were i come from and the fact that part of being with me means being able to take the good and bad. I don't pretend to be american, i am not and never will be. i remain black, nigerian and proud to be one! Anyone who does not like it can use the door.
soulpatrol (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #78 on: July 18, 2006, 09:59 PM »

@ toshmann so ure already dating a "whitey" yet you want to hook up with beyonce knowles. na sooooooo?Huh?? Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed
davidylan (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #79 on: July 18, 2006, 10:02 PM »

Quote from: toshmann on July 18, 2006, 09:57 PM
i disagree here. no disrespect, but the whites are very liberal with guys.  i may be wrong, i've only dated my whitey for 1 month

Dear Tosh,
You have only started datiing a white so now all things look rosy. Wait for some more months, she will start to nag you just like a black girl will. She may be liberal today but she is also aware of the fact that she has to fight to keep you and you bet she will fight tooth and nail. She can be forgetful too, she wont be the neat goddess you see outside, many can't cook and find it difficult to keep house. Some have eccentric views about marriage, kids and relationships. True that their upbringing makes them seem a little more liberal but in the end they will all exhibit the same female traits. You wait for a while, you'll soon realise that when push comes to shove, she will match you toe to toe when you have arguments!
toshmann (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #80 on: July 18, 2006, 10:04 PM »

@ soul
i only met her last month and i have not had sex with her. we like each other and we are being too careful. if anything goes wrong now she can't accuse me of using her because i have never seen the color of her thong. niether am i interested.

i just like her, for liking me

if u say yes to me, she'll understand and same if she says she's gotta go. we are dating, always together, in pubs clubs etc but we are just being cautious as if still studying each other
toshmann (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #81 on: July 18, 2006, 10:06 PM »

Quote from: davidylan on July 18, 2006, 10:02 PM
Dear Tosh,
You have only started datiing a white so now all things look rosy. Wait for some more months, she will start to nag you just like a black girl will. She may be liberal today but she is also aware of the fact that she has to fight to keep you and you bet she will fight tooth and nail. She can be forgetful too, she wont be the neat goddess you see outside, many can't cook and find it difficult to keep house. Some have eccentric views about marriage, kids and relationships. True that their upbringing makes them seem a little more liberal but in the end they will all exhibit the same female traits. You wait for a while, you'll soon realise that when push comes to shove, she will match you toe to toe when you have arguments!

i think i've had enough bad relationships in naija, any more stress now i'll just be on my own.
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #82 on: July 18, 2006, 10:10 PM »

@Davidylan, whatever you say because most of your words about black females are generalizations too (generalizations to the core actually) It just makes me assume that you dislike black females. sorry to say.

In your words : Is being a best friend and being understanding the sole preserve of the black woman? I think not. Is being a virtous woman the same as dropping out of school, dressing like a tramp, loud and aggressive behavior, inability to submit to authority and playing hard to get?

"inability to submit to authority" makes me laugh. Women aren't mens slaves whether you want to know that or not. If black women you've met don't submit to your authority, i applaud them!! because I wouldn't be a slave to no man.
my relationship's going to be 50/50. respect'll be give and take.



soulpatrol (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #83 on: July 18, 2006, 10:10 PM »

i feel you. so have i. thought it would be good to explore other options, other races to see if there really is a difference.
davidylan (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #84 on: July 18, 2006, 10:11 PM »

Quote from: toshmann on July 18, 2006, 10:06 PM
i think i've had enough bad relationships in naija, any more stress now i'll just be on my own.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Of course there's no relationship without stress. Black or white, stress dey plenty! You wait until you forget her birthday! You will see thunder that day, or the day she has to remind you to buy her those flowers she's been indirectly pointing your attention to all the while,

The only difference is that they are more liberal that black women and are more trusting and understandiing. They'D take most things a black woman would rake you ove the coals for.

But by and large, not much of a difference, the most important thing is you love her not just because she loved you or smiled at you!
davidylan (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #85 on: July 18, 2006, 10:15 PM »

Quote from: WesleyanA on July 18, 2006, 10:10 PM
@Davidylan, whatever you say because most of your words about black females are generalizations too (generalizations to the core actually) It just makes me assume that you dislike black females. sorry to say.

In your words : Is being a best friend and being understanding the sole preserve of the black woman? I think not. Is being a virtous woman the same as dropping out of school, dressing like a tramp, loud and aggressive behavior, inability to submit to authority and playing hard to get?

whatever!  Undecided

you are absolutely free to assume whatever you wish. My mom, aunties, cousins are black women, i don't dislike them. I have dated black women i thot i was going to marry eventually but things just did not work out.
Of course, i don't expect anything diff from you since you're a black woman,  i don't just like the prevalent idea that a black man MUST marry a black woman! Else he must be ashamed of his color!
toshmann (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #86 on: July 18, 2006, 10:15 PM »

to be honest i don't trust them at all. when it comes to fidelity they leave much to be desired. a friend of mine, married is busy telling me that she wont mind having it with me. she's damn older than me. married. haba!!!!

many of them are so reckless with sex that i get pissed. yeah, some are well mannered but on the average, the whiteys are reckless and shameless when it comes to sex and more importantly they are almost Godless
davidylan (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #87 on: July 18, 2006, 10:20 PM »

@ toshman

the godless part is a huge problem. It's hard to date a white girl who does not expect to sleep with you or eventually move in with you after a few months. In fact after a while she starts nagging you to meet her family, later she's hint at moving in because "that's what all her friends are doing".
It's easy to fall into their trap because they will work on you until all your resistance melts away. Despite that, there are still some that have some form of dignity, those are hard to get but do exist. I found one or she found me whichever.  Wink
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #88 on: July 18, 2006, 10:21 PM »

Quote from: davidylan on July 18, 2006, 10:15 PM
i don't just like the prevalent idea that a black man MUST marry a black woman! Else he must be ashamed of his color!

no one's saying that. all i'm saying is that this thread and many others that resemble this are "let's bash black women adn call them loud, uncouth and bad"

You never see white men doing this to their females.

It's sad!

 Undecided

toshmann (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #89 on: July 18, 2006, 10:24 PM »

@wesley, this thread is all about a question, not accusation. i wanted to know why our girls are so unfreindly to us. it is a personal experience, no one asked me to post this.i wanted answers,not accusations, they are humble investigations

i'm not sure i got the reason why, but i learnt from the thread though.

cheers
toshmann Wink
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #90 on: July 18, 2006, 10:28 PM »

This is another honest reply to the "Disgusted white girl"

Name: Mulumba Kazigo
Comment:
Hello everyone. If I could just offer my opinion. Iam a black male college student. I went to high school in a upper-middle class predominantly white town. In regards to the subject of discussion, ideally race shouldn't serve as the main criteria in selecting a mate. Unfortunately, some black individuals due to a sense of self-hatred engendered in a society that's taught you how to hate yourself come to place a higher value on white women. To them, I advise you if you can to go and live in Africa for some time. It might help erase this internalized hatred you have for your race. In his racially homogenous society you might develop a greater sense of love and self-acceptance for yourself. Over there you get to see Africans represented and thriving in all roles of society. More importantly what you might consider to be a black person of status i.e educated, wealthy, hardworking will not seem like an unusual phenomenon in an environment whose racial makeup is compatible to yours. You'll realize more importanly that the black race is just like the white race. There are its good and bad elements. I know this having lived in Uganda for six years. I interacted with smart, beautiful, successful people who were well educated and hardworking. In addition I also met or heard about the kind of black person you see on television in this country for the most part. The difference is, you witness this dichotomy of personalities outside of this society. You don't attribute those shortcomings to race, just flawed personalities. Also, a black person of status may be an aberration, but he's seen in the same light Bill Gates is. My experience in a predominanly white neighborhood taught me the same thing. Although that sense of self-loathing for who I was began to affect me, it didn't fully overcome me. I witnessed whites from both sides of the personality spectrum. Industrious, hardworking and kind. Plus selfish, lazy and unpleasant. White people and white women certainly aren't better than women of our race. The same problems you cite in black women and men can also be found in white women. On a personal note, I've met and fallen in love with women from both sides. Never dated though.
However, if I were to choose a mate, out of a sense of racial pride I would set aside my sense of color blindedness and go with a woman from my own race

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lets hear your opinion.

WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #91 on: July 18, 2006, 10:33 PM »

Quote from: toshmann on July 18, 2006, 10:24 PM
@wesley, this thread is all about a question, not accusation. i wanted to know why our girls are so unfreindly to us. it is a personal experience, no one asked me to post this.i wanted answers,not accusations, they are humble investigations

i'm not sure i got the reason why, but i learnt from the thread though.

cheers
toshmann Wink

It's all indirectly about accusations!! look at the posts?
you're all accusing black women of being cold and bad.

If you want to know why black women are unfriendly? I don't think they are unfriendly. It has to do w/ your manner of approach and each individual girl's wishes (race has nothing to do with it).

In my school, many of the senior black guys go out with white girls and i find it normal because i can't' imagine them going out with black girls (at least not the ones in my school) so it's all an individual thing.
And there are some black guys i can't imagine with white girls.
even though you might see this as bias but there's a pattern i notice.
davidylan (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #92 on: July 18, 2006, 10:37 PM »

Quote from: WesleyanA on July 18, 2006, 10:21 PM
no one's saying that. all i'm saying is that this thread and many others that resemble this are "let's bash black women adn call them loud, uncouth and bad"

You never see white men doing this to their females.

It's sad!

 Undecided

I don't know why this is so. I stay in upstate NY where contact with black females is few and far between. More than 90% of females in my school and immediate vicinity are white. I have been opportuned to meet really decent black females here at the medical school and grad school but the vast majority are just nothing to write home about.
I think its high time we began to make a distinction, i don't think the problem is ALL BLACK WOMEN, i think NIGERIAN black women or those straight from Africa are much better than African American women! As for those who used to live opposite myy street, no appologies, they were a disgrace to AFricans!
toshmann (m)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #93 on: July 18, 2006, 10:40 PM »

the cup is half full or half empty depends on which eye is looking.

i was just asking a question. many of our girls here in cardiff(not all of them) are so unfriendly and unwelcoming, just the other day, i saw 2 girls in our recepton downstairs, from their accent i guessed they were niajans and just as i was about to go meet them i heard what they were saying, it goes something like this- i can't imagine hanging aroud any black guy in cardiff, bla,bla,bla, yet i tried to say hi but when they saw me they gave that don't-come-here-gaze i talk about

but i just asked a question-why
soulpatrol (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #94 on: July 18, 2006, 10:54 PM »

that was so uncool of them. and here are some of us black sistas just looking for some acknowledgement from a brotha or whoever. funny indeed
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Black Girls Do This To Us
« #95 on: July 18, 2006, 11:02 PM »

Quote from: davidylan on July 18, 2006, 10:37 PM
I don't know why this is so. I stay in upstate NY where contact with black females is few and far between. More than 90% of females in my school and immediate vicinity are white. I have been opportuned to meet really decent black females here at the medical school and grad school but the vast majority are just nothing to write home about.
I think its high time we began to make a distinction, i don't think the problem is ALL BLACK WOMEN, i think NIGERIAN black women or those straight from Africa are much better than African American women! As for those who used to live opposite myy street, no appologies, they were a disgrace to AFricans!

see what i mean?
It's the disgrace factor that's affecting you.  Tongue Your ashamed of your race? just kidding

there's nothing wrong with African American women just as there's nothing wrong with Nigerian or African females.
The higher up you move socially, financially and especially educationally the better others percieve your morality and character. It has nothing to do with race.
As we all know blacks (esp males) are at the bottom of the pot of who's up in all these aspects.
But i still don't see black females creating threads to bash black men by saying that they can't find men who's either not on cocaine and crack or who's not ben convicted and been to jail even though we have it at the back of our minds.
It's called racial pride!!! You need to look for ways to improve yourself instead of bash.

Whites are more advanced in areas of academics and what not. maybe that's why blacks remain in ghettos.
There are whites who's characters aren't anything to be proud of but they are few compared to blacks + their fellow white counterparts try to bring them up unlike us who bash each other :roll eyes:

If you get what I mean.

You say you grew up in a mostly white neigborhood which may be the reason for your white preference.
but you saying you prefer whites to black because blacks are loud tramps is just out of the question and UNVALID!!
so i'll take the fact you're just better attracted to whites.
race shouldn't matter anyways.
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