Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?

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Jay-O-Jay (m)
Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« on: July 28, 2006, 03:57 PM »

If you ask me I'll say north or south home is the best!  But outside Nigeria I have met Nigerians who say "that stupid useless godforsaken country, I'll never go back there!"  Yet wherever they are that are treated as second citizen or nobody.

What do you think?
iice (f)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #1 on: July 28, 2006, 04:08 PM »

Sometimes its not a matter of freedom, but of economic status or personal reasons.  I think home is the best for some reasons.  And importantly, freedom 2 me is something in the soul Cool
ayoeze11 (m)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #2 on: July 28, 2006, 04:25 PM »

Home is home, there no were one can compare like home, someone should listen to Sound Sultan new song motherland, it sum up this topic
LoverBwoy (m)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #3 on: July 28, 2006, 04:37 PM »

and what is "freedom" in this topic? ?
diddy4 (m)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #4 on: July 28, 2006, 05:00 PM »

what do u mean by freedom? person tie your legs?
home is home. aint no place like home.
Jay-O-Jay (m)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #5 on: July 28, 2006, 05:38 PM »

Quote from: diddy4 on July 28, 2006, 05:00 PM
what do u mean by freedom? person tie your legs?
home is home. aint no place like home.

Quote from: LoverBwoy on July 28, 2006, 04:37 PM
and what is "freedom" in this topic? ?

Please! There is nothing personal about this topic, so don't direct it at me or at anyone in particular. Freedom in this case is very psychological and it means freeing yourselves from self enslavement for the sake of searching for better life rather than putting your bits into the motherland and make it come out like those places you think are paradise.  This topic is to let those who think otherwise do some re-think or air their views to convince us.  If you have ever been abroad then you probably will understand the reason for this topic.  Let us just air our views and put sentiments or insults away.

Regards to all!
edygirl (f)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #6 on: July 28, 2006, 08:17 PM »

Of course home.
jacq (f)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #7 on: July 28, 2006, 08:51 PM »

No place like home !
my2cents (m)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #8 on: July 28, 2006, 08:57 PM »

If I understand the word "freedom", then I would definitely say abroad.  If it is where I feel at home, I would say home.  By abroad, I mean my home base - US.

spking out of ignorance Grin
Freedom:
- Am I allowed to worship God as a christian freely in the Northern parts of Nigeria?

- Do I have the freedom to say anything about the Nigerian government, ala AIT, without suffering consequences?

- Am I free to stand up to the political status quo without fear of being killed?

Just a few

Feeling at home:
- Where else can I have people address me as "sir" as opposed to "hey u" or by first name?

- Where else can I get 100% organic, chemical-free food?

- Where else can I raise my blood pressure by screaming and yelling while negotiating prices?

- Where else can I sit back and relax over a cool bottle of gordon spark amongst buddies I went to school with?

Again, just a few Wink

LoverBwoy (m)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #9 on: July 28, 2006, 09:04 PM »

how is the investigation about the death of Bola Ige, Ken saro wiwa, isaac boro, the woman killed during the police vs army riots and others going or has those cases been closed?
dolly -pee (f)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #10 on: July 31, 2006, 07:01 PM »

 wave of slavery and servitude in foreign lands,is that what u call freedom?no. yea things are not d way they supposed 2 be @ home but i believe with prayers and positive attitude 2wards ones country things are going to get better.
my2cents (m)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #11 on: July 31, 2006, 07:15 PM »

Hmmm dolly-pee:

No offence, but I wonder:

1a) where u r located

1b) If u r in the diaspora, what you do

2) what u mean by "slavery" and "servitude"

I think I know what u mean, but I just want to be sure so I don't make assumptions. Wink
dolly -pee (f)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #12 on: July 31, 2006, 07:40 PM »

@ 2CENTS; LIVE IN MARYLAND,A STUDENT N MARYLAND UNIVERSIY,WORKN  PART TIME AS WELL.
 HAVE U NOTICED that A LOT OF people COME from ARFICA WITH GOOD DEGREES IN PHARMACY,ACCOUNTANCY OR EVEN MEDICINE-SOME EVEN WITH A FIRST CLASS, COMING HERE @ TIMES RENDERS IT USELESS, DOING THE PETTY JOBS,BREAKS MY HEART,I SEE them  U SEE them, LETS  FACE IT BUT THATS D TRUTH.
my2cents (m)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #13 on: July 31, 2006, 07:51 PM »

dolly-pee:

without the CAPS, I heard u loud and clear Grin

I thought as much regarding what u had in mind, but just wanted to make sure. Wink

Back to ur post, yes I am aware of the situation.  In fact, according to one documentary I watched, $30billion worth of degrees leave their respective countries yearly for the united states where they are not even utilized  Shocked Shocked

Sure, many of our degrees may b under-utilized upon arrival, but hey, what would hv been the alternative for such people back at home - late salaries? little or no job prospects? etc.  Of course, I am spking in generalities.  As I often ask people in the states, if it is that bad, y r u still here?  I usually get a lot of "ummm"s and head-scratching at this point.  It may seem hard, but if it were that bad, people wd be flowing out, as opposed to in Grin

Bottomline to me (and I spk as someone who has been out of a job for 2 years.  I had to learn this the hard way), as long as one is able to put food on their table for their family or themselves, it doesn't really matter what a person does.  As Nnamdi Azikiwe said, no condition is permanent.  The day wey u no get job for obodo oyibo, na that day u go sabi who ur true friends be.

As always, my 2 cents
dolly -pee (f)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #14 on: July 31, 2006, 08:07 PM »

 things are going to get better in nigeria,just wait and see.
my2cents (m)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #15 on: July 31, 2006, 08:32 PM »

I pray so myself dolly-pee.  I can feel it, deep in my heeeart (u remember that song from back in the day Wink).

For now though, all roads lead to the US.  No ifs, ands or buts.  Sorry, sad some may say, but true Grin
dolly -pee (f)
Re: Where Is Freedom? Home Or Abroad?
« #16 on: July 31, 2006, 08:36 PM »

 rite bro.
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