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kabiyesi (m)
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Kabiyesi,
That is often the next question discussed.
Were Africans abusive to the Albino population by excluding or rejecting them, sorta of bringing white anti-social behavior upon themselves?
Are we the root of cause of their terrible murderous desparation?
My answer is this: It would be a terrible misreading of Ancient African culture to portray the rejection of Albino's as abuse.
Quarantines to keep sick people from infecting and killing off the entire population, are not only to be expected but in fact are absolutely necessary for any groups survival.
And remember to many ancient cultures, not just Africans-- Albino's and all lepers were seen as being medically ill.
So it is a huge misreading of this subject to consider Africans some type of racist who rejected them for skin color, when in fact all they would know is that the person was terribly ill, especially as they watched them burn up from the sun and die sooner than all other Africans.
White skin had no meaning to the ancient African anscestors -- except to indicate an illness that you should protect the group from.
They were not racists excluding people for their skin color.
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Eurphoria (f)
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To nferyn,
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In as much as I like to ignore you, I decided that some time ago but am telling you now, that in your future discurse, try to leave out African tribes, don't get into discursion you don't know nothing about. You might convince yourself you have a good intentions but as far as am concerned it does not come out that way, the Igbo's and Yoruba's you display so much celerity in mentioning each time you want to attack Drusilla, are very close [ the Igbo language and Yoruba language are very close ], infact closer than you can imagine.
I NINETOFIVE, am the author of most of the threads about Igbo's and Yoruba's and the sub Igbo nations, tribes in Nigeria as you seem to perceive it is not what you think, therefore there is no need for your fanfaronade in trying to assume that you know a damn thing about tribal differences in Nigeria or Africa. Tribes in Nigeria are not extremely different from each other as you want to believe, and when we talk about it, we are not necessarily trying to enact or sharpen our differences which was in the first place encouraged by colonization [ without colonization the smaller languages would have melted into the bigger ones ] carried out successfully because of the tactics of divide and rule.
1, we discurse about it to create a balance in our socio political settings in order to disencourage the eventuality of plutocratic system of governance or government.
2, we discurse about it to desuetude ourselves of even the tinyest element of tribalism sown in our people during the days of colonization.
3, we discurse about it to show our people that we are not so different afterall.
Your jumping into this issue naively to exacerbate and make yourself a monomaniac of the subject shows how purblind you are as a person. I will advice you strongly not to get into our tribal discurse cause we are all related and we are one, for Example am an Igbo by heritage but am a Yoruba by birth, you can now understand the need not to get involved when brothers and sisters talk. you might want people to trust you, how can somebody with a brain trust you, I convinced myself that a white man can not stop being a white man when you said that racism has nothing to do with you but your wife and your children [ I tryed not to say this for long ], which shows that to you, your wife and your children are entirely different people, and that's not the way an African man [ Black man ] thinks. Are we still surprised why in Eastern Europe and the whole of west divorce is pravelent.
A black man's mindset is like this; ''If you have problems with my family, you don't have no problems with my family, cause you have problems personally with me. Is it not clear that you should not be trusted?, when all you do is attack black people that has love for there fellow black people, If Drusilla was to go about advocating that we are all guilty of racism, she would have been your best friend. If you really love Black people go and deal with racial problems in your country Belgium where people are shot on the street for the colour of there skin.
I would also like to bring your attention to the fact that Africans are Africans, not withstanding that we could sometimes be broken down to; Continental Africans, African Americans or Afro Caribeans, non of this titles makes anyone lesser African, but since you are playing this Continental Africa game, am a Continental African person and am telling you that the best thing the Europeans would have to do to solve the problems they created in Africa is to stay as far as possible away from us African's.
Note:
This is not an argument but an advice.
@NINETOFIVE I stand in ovation to you, totally in agreement with you 100% , i have never doubted we had well grounded,intelligent,and passionate Africans, NEVER! You have given me cause to smile and i salute and thank you. Just like you i have avoided this Nferyn man, not because i can't take him in his own game and expose him for how stupid he sounds most times, but because i he will only do what he does best, that is wear one down with his endly Quotes and baseless arguements. Thank you for saying what many are thinking and feeling not just about him but about many so called well meaning white people who do nothing but meddle in things they know nothin about. WHAT AN INSULT, NOW THEY WANT TO TELL US ABOUT HOW TO BE AFRICANS what a joke |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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Eurphoria,
@NINETOFIVE
I stand in ovation to you, totally in agreement with you 100% , i have never doubted we had well grounded,intelligent,and passionate Africans, NEVER!
You have given me cause to smile and i salute and thank you. Just like you i have avoided this Nferyn man, not because i can't take him in his own game and expose him for how stupid he sounds most times, but because i he will only do what he does best, that is wear one down with his endly Quotes and baseless arguements.
Thank you for saying what many are thinking and feeling not just about him but about many so called well meaning white people who do nothing but meddle in things they know nothin about.
WHAT AN INSULT, NOW THEY WANT TO TELL US ABOUT HOW TO BE AFRICANS what a joke
Thank you jare my sister. |
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tpia
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Ahem.
This very embarrassing. I repeat- some of the responses on this thread do not speak well of the Nigerian educational system, this being a board with many Nigerian users.
We all have brains- let us use them, instead of being manipulated by some Supremacist agenda.
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rziza
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Drusilla, or should that be JEW-silla?
Yes, the FILTHY Jew has his agents in every region and amongst every people of THIS world.
Your VAIN and ARROGANT tribe were ejected from Egypt thousands of years ago for RACIST PRIDE and SELF-LOVE.
Still up to the same OLD TRICKS eh?
Keep wishing on a star MORON!
CHRISTANITY (white-Jew worship) created by Jews. Keep praying for your Jewish MESSIAH!
The last PROPHET has already come.
Think you can out-smart Allah?
Stepping up with the SLICK INTELLECT and a bookcase full of books written by the VAIN-GLORIOUS?
WHO created NATURE then?
Dr so and so, ?
LOL!
Lost in PRIDE and ARROGANCE on these forums.
All Jews and their Christian SERVANTS go into the FIRE.
Enjoy HELL then!
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tpia
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@typia hi your post has been noted, you do have a point. Though i disagree to an extent,however where i am coming from on this thread is different and i have reasons, don't know if you have read all the posts and many more previous to this,lol anyhow some white people do come here to suppress and impose their views on us and that is where i stand and be counted. I really do hear you , don't know if you were referring to me or others specifically, but i thot i respond as i made some comments myself.  Dracula ( I mean Drusilla) comes across as very manipulative. She can say what she likes, but she is not African and she does not speak for Africans. She is brainwashing many people here with this pseudo-science of hers, and too many are falling into her trap. I assume she is brainwashed herself. To me, saying whites are descended from African albinos is the same as saying blacks are subhuman (check any white supremacist site). If she is reacting to what she perceives as racism in America, she needs to confront the white racists in the US instead of hiding behind Africans in this dirty way. Besides, if she is posting this crap here, who knows what stereotypes and junk she is posting about Africans on another site? Anyway, this rziza person seems to be cut from the same cloth as drusilla. They ought to marry each other. |
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tpia
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drusilla
Re: White People Are The Descendants Of African Albino's.
« #93 on: August 23, 2006, 06:14 PM »
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Nferyn,
It is almost as if the words:
Belgium Congo
Belgium DRC
Belgium Rwanda
Belgium Burundi
Have no meaning to you and you mistakenly think that America is the only one guilty of crimes against Africans and Africa.
And some how that leaves you free and clear to come around and tell Africans what they should do and should not do.
That is weird.
By the way, your divide and conquer tactics still won't work, no matter how desparate you get.
I would like others though to notice how you keep pounding the idea in, that Africa's are DIVERSE and have many CULTURES.
The same reasoning that people have used for years to tell people to give up on the idea of Africans being at peace with one another and united against their true enemy.
Mahmood Mamdani -- a Great Continental African scholar, has written many college textbooks showing how every country and tribe in Africa suffered the same oppressions and systems, including South Africa.
Well, not just him but many a Continental African scholar has written extensively that all African cultures despite their cultural diversity, are more similar than they are different.
I personally like the scholars who concentrate on the so called religions of Africans. It is beautiful how they show, that Creation beliefs are similar across the continent, relations with God are similar and beliefs are similar. Despite the fact that one might find slight differences from area to area, the differences between ATR (african traditional religions) across the continent are less than the differences between Christian denominations.
The more you talk, the more people's eyes are going to be open to the fact that 'emphasizing' African cultural diversity, is a big part of the divide and conquer tactics. This is why it is emphasized especially in school settings that teach African children.
Intellectual colonialism was the Europeans only hope of retaining Africa, after physical colonialization was lost.
It is very spiteful and low of you to post this. I don't see why nferyn should be the recipient of your venom laden rant here. Do you have evidence that he's the person responsible for the atrocities in the Congo and the rest of central Africa? So because he is white and posting on this site, everyone dumps on him the collective responsibility for what happened decades ago? Could whatever happened in these regions have taken place without people like you collaborating and reinforcing stereotypes? If you really want justice for the Congo, you need to contact the Belgian or European governments and try your luck with them. Don't forget the US Congress, as well. Why don't you go debate with white supremacists or European skinheads, since you all are coming from the same source? As a Nigerian, I do not like it when every Nigerian gets tarred with the 419 brush. Just because some people are into 419 does not mean every Nigerian is doing the same. There are plenty of Nigerians who work decently and hard for a living. Just like being from the ghetto does not automatically make 100% of the people living in the ghetto, pimps prostitutes or drug dealers. And yes, Africans are diverse and have many cultures. Is that offensive to you in some way? The languages are different, and people from different regions speak different languages. Even Europeans have different languages and cultures. If you have no other language than what you speak right now, don't take out your frustration on Africans.In America, there are different regional accents,depending on which state you grew up in- is anyone complaining about that? There are people descended from Irish, Scots, Italians, Hispanics, Africans, African Americans, Asians, and so on. There is nothing wrong with diversity. You need to forget what you think you know about Africa and Africans and get real.  |
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Drusilla (f)
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Tpia,
You talk with a double tongue.
Your embarrassed for Nigerians behavior. But Nferyn should not be embarrassed for Belgians behavior.
You slander Nigerians whole education system for the behavior of a few Nigerians. But Nferyns ethnicity has nothing to do with Belgians behavior.
Your confused, that much is clear to anybody reading here.
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Drusilla (f)
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Mentacide = When Africans committ mental suicide.
Anybody who does not line up with what the whiteman says is an enemy.
Any whiteman being blamed for the behavior of his fellow whitemen is being beat up on.
Any African who speaks of Africa and their history in a way that does not line up with what the whiteman says, is insane.
At all cost, the white god must be protected.
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nferyn (m)
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Drusilla,
Who exactly is this ellusive whiteman?
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Drusilla (f)
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Nferyn,
The whiteman is this guy:
He is destroying the earth. He because of economic reasons has a whole world economic system that is destroying the rainforests, destroying the atsmosphere, making the whole planet worse and sick for everybody. Even though everybody does not share in the profits and enjoy the benefits of him destroying the earth.
The whiteman is this guy:
He is sending machine guns, fighter jets, war tanks, mines and bullets to every nook and corner of the world. Along with representatives that hype up differences between people and promise money to the winner, who supports his policys.
The whiteman is this guy:
He is sending books and words around the world which tell people to hate each other, to think that those who read the books are better than others, to teach people to love the whiteman and his ways alone. The books say that what the whiteman thinks is the best way and the only way and if you do not believe it you are backwards.
The whiteman is this guy:
He has fought wars to make sure the Chinese keep using Opium. He has been busted for bringing crack and cocaine into American ghettos. He is known for selling gin to Africans, for giving Indians alchohol. The whole world is now smoking his Marlboro's. He is also known for selling genetically modified foods. For selling foods with drugs in them that actually make you hungrier, fatter and sicker. Foods with so many chemicals in them, that a person barely needs to be embalmed at death, because they have ate so many preservatives in their life.
The whiteman is this guy:
Even though the first known case of Aids was in the west, he tells everybody that Aids came from Africa. He tells stories of Africans screwing green monkeys and denies the well documented case of massive polio vaccine trials using monkey blood. He gives tylenol to children to reduce fever even though it is proven that kids who have fevers heal better and die less than those who use tylenol. He sells the knowledge of doctors medicines and ignores the fact that more people die from being in his hospitals than the disease they actually came to the hospital for. He turns out flipper babies. He tells women not to breast feed and gives them simulac, only to find out later that breast milk is the best for children.
The whiteman is this guy:
He has soldiers in 2/3rds of all the countries of the world. These soldiers and his massive war artillery enforce the above policy's on the world.
The whiteman is the guy destroying the world.
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nferyn (m)
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You mean the whiteman is the global capitalist economic system (along with it's superstructure to justify it)?
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Drusilla (f)
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Nferyn,
LOL
Of course that is exactly what I mean. Smile.
Language differences:
English = global capitalist economic system (along with it's superstructure to justify it)?
Ebonics = Global White Supremacy
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nferyn (m)
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Nferyn,
LOL
Of course that is exactly what I mean. Smile.
Language differences:
English = global capitalist economic system (along with it's superstructure to justify it)?
Ebonics = Global White Supremacy
Of which the upper echelons are mostly manned (pun intended) by affluent white males. Does calling it ' the whiteman' improve or lessen the odds that that system is replaced by a more equitable and just system and for what reasons would that characterisation have that effect? |
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Drusilla (f)
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Nferyn,
Afrocentric Nigerian scholar Dompere says: There is no use talking to African people about communism and socialism because Africans have no experience with those systems. They are just not part of the equation of what has happenned to Africans and people fight against the situtation they have personally experienced.
Our cause is not getting a communist or socialist system. What do those have to do with us? Nothing good or bad.
Our cause is getting rid of the whiteman.
A "Kinder and Gentler" whiteman is not even an option for us. (the first president Bush's slogan)
A "compassionate conservative" whiteman is not even an option for us. (the second president Bush's slogan)
The beast can not be tamed. He must be destroyed period.
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nferyn (m)
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Nferyn,
Afrocentric Nigerian scholar Dompere says: There is no use talking to African people about communism and socialism because Africans have no experience with those systems. They are just not part of the equation of what has happenned to Africans and people fight against the situtation they have personally experienced.
Our cause is not getting a communist or socialist system. What do those have to do with us? Nothing good or bad.
I'm not advocating a socialist or communist system. I only find Marxist analysis methods useful at geting at the root causes of social and economic inequality. A solution should stem from a proper analysis of the problem Our cause is getting rid of the whiteman.
A "Kinder and Gentler" whiteman is not even an option for us. (the first president Bush's slogan)
A "compassionate conservative" whiteman is not even an option for us. (the second president Bush's slogan)
The beast can not be tamed. He must be destroyed period.
1. If you would like to put it in pathological terms (as you - and may supremacists with you - like to do), you're treating symptoms without even looking at root causes. The disease has put you in such a feverish frenzy that you'D do anything to get rid of the pain, whether or not that actually cures the disease or not. You'D even go as far as drinking all kinds of poisonous things (gimme some melanin arguments please), as long as it lessens the pain 2. How would you go about the destruction of the beast, getting rid of the whiteman, as you call it? Or is that something you rather not discuss on an open forum, lest ' the whiteman' turns it into his advantage? Am I an agent of the whiteman? Am I the whiteman impersonated? 3. Your antropomorphic reasoning (kind of reminds me of my daughter seeing monsters under her bed) would be encharming, if it weren't for the venom that permeats it. |
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nferyn (m)
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You're an excellent student in European thought. Your Platonian dualism just shows how much you've embraced it. As a good follower of Christian doctrine and reasoning, St. Thomas Aquinas would be justifiably proud of you. Maybe you should re-read the speech you posted and analyse your own thought processes |
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rziza
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Don't be fooled by this SAULITE, JEW-silla WORSHIPS the white man!
JEW-silla and her kind CREATED Christianity.
The same racist madness and HENCE the same religion.
A heart blackened by LIES and SELF-DECEPTION.
The Tribes of Israel were CRAZY from before they came to Egypt and thus an EXAMPLE to all of humanity from Allah (swt) DIRECTLY.
EVIL-angelist!
Servant of SHAITAN spreading SPITE and MALICE over the Earth,
Already CURSED by GOD!
They want to drag every other human to HELL with them.
To ALLAH alone belongs ALL the power and greatness in this world.
LEARN THAT!
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nferyn (m)
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rziza,
Your content-les drivel has been noted and will be ignored henceworth (at least by me). If you have something meaningful to contribute, don't hesitate to do so.
Anti-semitic insults do not constitute an argument.
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Drusilla (f)
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I'm not advocating a socialist or communist system. I only find Marxist analysis methods useful at geting at the root causes of social and economic inequality. A solution should stem from a proper analysis of the problem. If you want to save the system, then it may be important to you, to find what in the system has gone wrong. I am not trying to save the system. It is understandable to me that white liberals like you who are part of the system want to save it by finding the problems in it and trying to fix them. Kapeesh? 2. How would you go about the destruction of the beast, getting rid of the whiteman, as you call it? Or is that something you rather not discuss on an open forum, lest 'the whiteman' turns it into his advantage? Am I an agent of the whiteman? Am I the whiteman impersonated? Christian Eschatology can be discussed on any forum. It's no secret what they believe, they say it world wide all over the TV. Jack Van Impe, called the scripture memorization guy, (he has memorized the whole bible), who has a world wide TV show and many other Christian eschatologists (study biblical prophecys), say that America is Babylon. All biblical eschatologists note something strange in the bible. Either America is not mentioned (utterly ridicolous) because for some reason Babylon has dissapeared by the time of the war of Armageddon. Jack Van Impe also knows that God uses the low things of this world, the people the world esteems as lowlifes, the people others might consider low life violent monsters and the world might even fear walking in their neighborhoods, the police may report that they have guns that outnumber the polices 7 to 1, they might not realize because of these lowlifed people's location -- all of Babylons -- naval ships, airplanes, chemical & biological & nuclear weapons are rendered useless. A people known for being faster, stronger, and more athletic, known for surviving on nothing, a people who can not be stopped by racial identification because in fact there are so many of them who are themselves exhibiting the normal color of Americans that only they know that they are not actually the race of the normal Americans. The bible says this about the destruction of Babylon: Rev 18:6-7 Reward her as she has rewarded you, and double to her double, according to her works. In the cup which she mixed, mix double to her. As much as she has glorified herself and has lived in luxury, so much torment and sorrow give her. For she says in her heart, I sit as a queen, and I am not a widow; and I do not see mourning at all. There must be a people in Babylon already, who is angry and hates Babylon and wants Babylon to pay for what Babylon has done to them. Most people look at that and say utterly ridicolous, all Americans live good and love America. Yes that is true. America is generally pretty good to all her citizens, now. The bible says this: Isa 33:1 Woe to thee that spoilest, and thou wast not spoiled; and dealest treacherously, and they dealt not treacherously with thee! when thou shalt cease to spoil, thou shalt be spoiled; and when thou shalt make an end to deal treacherously, they shall deal treacherously with thee.Anyways, that is just the tip of the iceberg about what white Christian preachers like Jack Van impe believe and teach on their TV show that goes around the world. You're an excellent student in European thought. Your Platonian dualism just shows how much you've embraced it. As a good follower of Christian doctrine and reasoning, St. Thomas Aquinas would be justifiably proud of you.
Maybe you should re-read the speech you posted and analyse your own thought processes. Nferyn, it is only your arrogance and racist thinking that would cause you to think that you are informing a person who has lived in a European country (New Europe-America) for over 400 years that they are an excellent student of European thought. We had no choice but to become experts at it. We didn't land on plymouth rock, plymouth rock landed on us. The American Indian waits for the major castostrophic event as he called it. The Blackman is the major castostrophic event. You didn't really believe that God sent Black people to Babylon to be slaves did you? (He did use the pride and arrogance of whites to get us into position.) Isa 13:3-5 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness. The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle. They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Nferyn, Just kidding. This is all part of a book, I am writing, a fictional book. Smile. I get a good laugh out of it. Well, sometimes it gives me a laugh, other times when whites get to complaining that I am the most dangerous person in America and that I could not possibly be Black because no Nigger would be smart enough to think of a fictional novel with such a great plot. Then it makes me unhappy. It's just a damn fictional novel. Nothing to get all riled up about. LOL Have a good day. |
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Drusilla (f)
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rziza,
When you meet a man who hates a Jewish man, you have met a man who hates Black people.
Which of course easily explains why I can show normal African Muslims going off all day every day about the racism of Arab Muslims against African Muslims (nothing whatsoever to do with Nation of Islam).
I am talking about Normal Black Muslims being mistreated.
Arabs ----> The other white meat.
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nferyn (m)
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I'm not advocating a socialist or communist system. I only find Marxist analysis methods useful at geting at the root causes of social and economic inequality. A solution should stem from a proper analysis of the problem. If you want to save the system, then it may be important to you, to find what in the system has gone wrong. You're not making sense. What in the system do you think I want to save? We have the ability to give each and every person on this planet a comfortable life; We have the ability to allow all people to better themselves. Our economic system that only values that on which we can put a price tag is strangling and poisoning the earth and all life on it. Value needs to be re-evaluated. I am not trying to save the system. Neither am I It is understandable to me that white liberals like you who are part of the system want to save it by finding the problems in it and trying to fix them.
I am not a white liberal. White maybe, but definitely not a liberal in the American sense. The fundamentals of the system are wrong. No use in trying to fix it. 2. How would you go about the destruction of the beast, getting rid of the whiteman, as you call it? Or is that something you rather not discuss on an open forum, lest 'the whiteman' turns it into his advantage? Am I an agent of the whiteman? Am I the whiteman impersonated? Christian Eschatology can be discussed on any forum. It's no secret what they believe, they say it world wide all over the TV. You really have a way of dodging questions, haven't you? How on earth can Christian Eschatology be relevant her? Jack Van Impe, called the scripture memorization guy, (he has memorized the whole bible), who has a world wide TV show and many other Christian eschatologists (study biblical prophecys), say that America is Babylon. So? How is that relevant? All biblical eschatologists note something strange in the bible. Either America is not mentioned (utterly ridicolous) because for some reason Babylon has dissapeared by the time of the war of Armageddon.
Jack Van Impe also knows that God uses the low things of this world, the people the world esteems as lowlifes, the people others might consider low life violent monsters and the world might even fear walking in their neighborhoods, the police may report that they have guns that outnumber the polices 7 to 1, they might not realize because of these lowlifed people's location -- all of Babylons -- naval ships, airplanes, chemical & biological & nuclear weapons are rendered useless. A people known for being faster, stronger, and more athletic, known for surviving on nothing, a people who can not be stopped by racial identification because in fact there are so many of them who are themselves exhibiting the normal color of Americans that only they know that they are not actually the race of the normal Americans.
Are you really taking this end of times thing seriously? [SNIP]
Anyways, that is just the tip of the iceberg about what white Christian preachers like Jack Van impe believe and teach on their TV show that goes around the world.
Lucky me that I'm not exposed to this type of insanity. You're an excellent student in European thought. Your Platonian dualism just shows how much you've embraced it. As a good follower of Christian doctrine and reasoning, St. Thomas Aquinas would be justifiably proud of you.
Maybe you should re-read the speech you posted and analyse your own thought processes. Nferyn, it is only your arrogance and racist thinking that would cause you to think that you are informing a person who has lived in a European country (New Europe-America) for over 400 years that they are an excellent student of European thought. We had no choice but to become experts at it. We didn't land on plymouth rock, plymouth rock landed on us. You're not very good at detecting irony or sarcasm, are you? Your thinking is mired in classical European essentialistic dualism. Only in America does this pearl of classical thought still shine. Well, mainstream US culture still hasn't come to terms with the non-essentialistic scientific revolution that Darwin started, so what can you expect. The American Indian waits for the major castostrophic event as he called it.
The Blackman is the major castostrophic event.
You didn't really believe that God sent Black people to Babylon to be slaves did you? (He did use the pride and arrogance of whites to get us into position.)
Let's just say I don't have much faith in the accuracy of Biblical prophecies to put it mildly Isa 13:3-5 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness. The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle. They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Maybe you're just yearning for the End Times to come. Could be a long wait though. Nferyn,
Just kidding. This is all part of a book, I am writing, a fictional book. Smile.
I get a good laugh out of it.
If you've got he skills, it could become a best-seller Well, sometimes it gives me a laugh, other times when whites get to complaining that I am the most dangerous person in America and that I could not possibly be Black because no Nigger would be smart enough to think of a fictional novel with such a great plot.
Dangerous? You're not even annoying the system-lords. Afro-centric romanticism isn't dangerous to the system. Only when people start to advocate true social change accross racial lines does the system wake up. Think about it: when was Malcolm X assasinated? When did the Black Panthers fall in disarray? No need for strong repressive actions against social movements anymore. There's the War on Drugs, War on Terror and the prison-industrial complex to deal with dissidence. Then it makes me unhappy. It's just a damn fictional novel. Nothing to get all riled up about.
LOL Have a good day.
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Nferyn, The fundamentals of the system are wrong. No use in trying to fix it. Good to hear. Not sure if I believe it yet but there have been a few John Browns and Unabombers. So it is possible. You really have a way of dodging questions, haven't you? How on earth can Christian Eschatology be relevant here? When the President of the world, George Bush prays publicly before the cameras every morning and announces that God told him to go to war against Iraq and 86 percent of Americans claims to be Christians, and America is the ruling Empire of the world. It's relevant. Anyways, that is just the tip of the iceberg about what white Christian preachers like Jack Van impe believe and teach on their TV show that goes around the world.
Lucky me that I'm not exposed to this type of insanity. Your exposed to it but because you do not try to understand it, you just do not realize why so many of the countries of the world now have troops in the Middle East, just where the bible says they would gather. Your thinking is mired in classical European essentialistic dualism. Only in America does this pearl of classical thought still shine. Well, mainstream US culture still hasn't come to terms with the non-essentialistic scientific revolution that Darwin started, so what can you expect.
Let's just say I don't have much faith in the accuracy of Biblical prophecies to put it mildly
The question is what should you expect? America is the world Empire now. So large and huge and dominate over all the other countries of the world - it makes the old Roman and Greek empires look like neighborhood associations. You might want to try to understand how they think. Maybe you're just yearning for the End Times to come. Could be a long wait though. Unless the world leader not only believed in the end times but insisted on it happenning. Dangerous? You're not even annoying the system-lords. Afro-centric romanticism isn't dangerous to the system. Only when people start to advocate true social change accross racial lines does the system wake up. Think about it: when was Malcolm X assasinated? When did the Black Panthers fall in disarray?
No need for strong repressive actions against social movements anymore. There's the War on Drugs, War on Terror and the prison-industrial complex to deal with dissidence. I wouldn't dare try to annoy the system-lords, the bible says not to even attempt that. We should just get as far away from them as possible. Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. LOL Smile |
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delf747 (m)
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I've read with interest - and some dismay - many of the posts on this thread. It's very easy for us humans to get hoodwinked into believing something, especially when the evidence is drawn from a hotch-potch of sources and cobbled together by a cod-science (psychoanalysis). Humans evolved from primates. Have you ever seen the skin colour of a primate? Have you ever considered why Europeans, Arabs and South Asians are so hairy? I'm not interested in the racists game of oneupmanship. Science deals with reality. Race is NOT reality. CALIFORNIA ACADEMY OF SCIENCES - ANTHROPOLOGY The earliest members of the hominid lineage had a mostly unpigmented or lightly pigmented integument covered with dark black hair, similar to that of the modern chimpanzee. The evolution of a naked, darkly pigmented integument occurred early in the evolution of the genus Homo. A dark epidermis protected sweat glands from UV-induced injury, thus insuring the integrity of somatic thermoregulation. Of greater significance to individual reproductive success was that highly melanized skin protected against UV-induced photolysis of folate (Branda and Eaton 1978, Science 201:625–626; Jablonski 1992, Proc. Australas. Soc. Hum. Biol.5:455–462; 1999, Med. Hypotheses 52:581–582), a metabolite essential for normal development of the embryonic neural tube (Bower and Stanley, 1989, The Medical Journal of Australia 150:613–619; Medical Research Council Vitamin Research Group 1991, The Lancet 338:31–37) and spermatogenesis (Cosentino et al. 1990, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 87:1431–1435; Mathur et al. 1977, Fertility Sterility 28:1356–1360). http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/Jablonski/skin_evol.html |
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tpia
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drusilla
Tpia,
You talk with a double tongue.
Your embarrassed for Nigerians behavior. But Nferyn should not be embarrassed for Belgians behavior.
You slander Nigerians whole education system for the behavior of a few Nigerians. But Nferyns ethnicity has nothing to do with Belgians behavior.
Your confused, that much is clear to anybody reading here. Well, you're not Nigerian, so what I said about the Nigerian educational system does not apply to you. You are making the Nigerians supporting your weird views, seem brainwashed. Correction- I am not embarrasssed at Nigerians' behavior ( your views are racist, as anyone can see from this comment of yours)- I am embarrassed by some of the information presented as fact on this thread. What does Nigerians' behavior have to do with a posting on a website? This is the root of your problem-you lump entire races together and pin a label on them. That is typical racism. However, I suspect medication may be to blame. You obviously have issues with whitemen(?) I suggest you work out these issues with the whitemen(?) who hurt you, before you end up doing something you will regret. ( if you haven't done so already). Also, before you suffer a sea change and make Africans the object of your hatred. besides, why are these two countries your business? Isn't there anything you can comment about in America? You're shooting rather far from the tree. |
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tpia
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I've read with interest - and some dismay - many of the posts on this thread. It's very easy for us humans to get hoodwinked into believing something, especially when the evidence is drawn from a hotch-potch of sources and cobbled together by a cod-science (psychoanalysis). Humans evolved from primates. Have you ever seen the skin colour of a primate? Have you ever considered why Europeans, Arabs and South Asians are so hairy? I'm not interested in the racists game of oneupmanship. Science deals with reality. Race is NOT reality. CALIFORNIA ACADEMY OF SCIENCES - ANTHROPOLOGY The earliest members of the hominid lineage had a mostly unpigmented or lightly pigmented integument covered with dark black hair, similar to that of the modern chimpanzee. The evolution of a naked, darkly pigmented integument occurred early in the evolution of the genus Homo. A dark epidermis protected sweat glands from UV-induced injury, thus insuring the integrity of somatic thermoregulation. Of greater significance to individual reproductive success was that highly melanized skin protected against UV-induced photolysis of folate (Branda and Eaton 1978, Science 201:625–626; Jablonski 1992, Proc. Australas. Soc. Hum. Biol.5:455–462; 1999, Med. Hypotheses 52:581–582), a metabolite essential for normal development of the embryonic neural tube (Bower and Stanley, 1989, The Medical Journal of Australia 150:613–619; Medical Research Council Vitamin Research Group 1991, The Lancet 338:31–37) and spermatogenesis (Cosentino et al. 1990, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 87:1431–1435; Mathur et al. 1977, Fertility Sterility 28:1356–1360). http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/Jablonski/skin_evol.html |
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Drusilla (f)
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Tpia,
So just for clarity your view is:
Nigerians embarrass you.
The Nigerian educational system is terrible.
The Nigerians who post here who in your words, support me, are brainwashed.
Nferyn is a good guy and you are his defender.
Nobody should ever speak about any other country in the world because only their own country is their business.
Oh. Wait. You did correct one of those things. It is information posted on web boards as facts that embarrass you, not actual Nigerians.
So in conclusion.
You have offered no evidence for or against the argument presented here.
You have just insulted all the Black people and defended the one white person.
Mentacide.
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Drusilla (f)
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delf747,
Please tell us how a book about why we tattoo our bodies and how we are emotionally effected by touch on our skin has any relevance to the topic?
"""Jablonski begins with a look at skin's structure and functions and then tours its three-hundred-million-year evolution, delving into such topics as the importance of touch and how the skin reflects and affects emotions. She examines the modern human obsession with age-related changes in skin, especially wrinkles. She then turns to skin as a canvas for self-expression, exploring our use of cosmetics, body paint, tattooing, and scarification. Skin: A Natural History places the rich cultural canvas of skin within its broader biological context for the first time, and the result is a tremendously engaging look at ourselves."""
How could this book possibly be relevant to the topic?
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nferyn (m)
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Nferyn, The fundamentals of the system are wrong. No use in trying to fix it. Good to hear. Not sure if I believe it yet but there have been a few John Browns and Unabombers. So it is possible. Knowledge of fundamental problems of the system does not make one a revolutionary. I'm way past that period in my lifetime. Besides, destroying the system without something better to replace it with is not really a sane course of action. I'm supporting many of the anti-globalisation movements; their focus on local community development and small scale self-sufficiency could be a way out of this quagmire, but alas there's no all-encompasing replacement system yet. You really have a way of dodging questions, haven't you? How on earth can Christian Eschatology be relevant here? When the President of the world, George Bush prays publicly before the cameras every morning and announces that God told him to go to war against Iraq and 86 percent of Americans claims to be Christians, and America is the ruling Empire of the world. It's relevant. America's Imperial ambitions are crumbling in front of our eyes. The capitalist fundamentalist ideology has left the core of the empire with a serious underinvestment in infrastructure, industry, eductation, community building, etc. There is no social cohesion and once peak oil hits, the shit is going to hit the fan. The USA cannot possibly sustain itself. The real problem is the stockpile of military hardware in the US, not the projection of power it is capable of. Anyway, you're still dodging the question. How would you deal with the ephemeral whiteman? Anyways, that is just the tip of the iceberg about what white Christian preachers like Jack Van impe believe and teach on their TV show that goes around the world.
Lucky me that I'm not exposed to this type of insanity. Your exposed to it but because you do not try to understand it, you just do not realize why so many of the countries of the world now have troops in the Middle East, just where the bible says they would gather. Less troops in the Middle East today than at the height of the cold war. It is irrelevant. Your thinking is mired in classical European essentialistic dualism. Only in America does this pearl of classical thought still shine. Well, mainstream US culture still hasn't come to terms with the non-essentialistic scientific revolution that Darwin started, so what can you expect.
Let's just say I don't have much faith in the accuracy of Biblical prophecies to put it mildly The question is what should you expect? America is the world Empire now. So large and huge and dominate over all the other countries of the world - it makes the old Roman and Greek empires look like neighborhood associations. You might want to try to understand how they think. It's not because the big weewee at the top believes something that it is going to happen. It only shows what a destructive force religion can be; Better get rid of it alltogether. Maybe you're just yearning for the End Times to come. Could be a long wait though. Unless the world leader not only believed in the end times but insisted on it happenning. Belief in Santa Clause doesn't make him real. Dangerous? You're not even annoying the system-lords. Afro-centric romanticism isn't dangerous to the system. Only when people start to advocate true social change accross racial lines does the system wake up. Think about it: when was Malcolm X assasinated? When did the Black Panthers fall in disarray?
No need for strong repressive actions against social movements anymore. There's the War on Drugs, War on Terror and the prison-industrial complex to deal with dissidence. I wouldn't dare try to annoy the system-lords, the bible says not to even attempt that. We should just get as far away from them as possible. Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. LOL Smile You cannot escap a system that is bent on encompassing all aspects of life. Try escaping the economic system, you just can't. Ignoring it and focussing on side effects just perpetuates it. You may not realise how much your attention on race is working in favor of the system. When real change is even suggested (see Seatle anti-globalisation protests), the system comes out with all necessary force to crush it. 9-11 was just manna from heaven for the system. Nothing like fear to keep the minnions in line. |
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delf747 (m)
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Drusilla: Please tell us how a book about why we tattoo our bodies and how we are emotionally effected by touch on our skin has any relevance to the topic?
Simple. I never advocated such a book. The scientific paper I quoted from is: 1. Jablonski, N.G. The evolution of human skin and skin coloration. Annu. Rev. Anthropol. 33:585-623. http://www.calacademy.org/research/anthropology/Jablonski/printable_files/skin.pdf |
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